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Sparky

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vagabon movin on

Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 12, 2007 - 02:15am PT

If a child runs into the room saying "Mummy, mummy! I love Jesus and He loves me! We're all going to Heaven when we die and God is looking over us!", people will smile and praise the child. Nobody would say "Don't be silly. You can't possibly say that because you don't fully understand everything about the religion. How can you know that for sure, when you've not read the Bible in the original Hebrew?!?". But if a child (or teenager, or adult) says "I've had a good think about it, and have come to the conclusion that Jesus is a myth and nothing in Christianity makes much sense. I declare myself to be a freethinking secular humanist.", then they are quite likely to receive the latter response. You could have all the theological training of a hedgehog and still get wild applause if you stand up and say you're a Christian, but it seems that atheists are required to demonstrate more intelligence and Biblical expertise than all the clergymen and theologians that have ever lived before they are allowed to publicly express their doubts. -Adrian Barnett

Sparky

Trad climber

vagabon movin on

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2007 - 02:24am PT

When elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers. -Kikuyu proverb

Sparky

Trad climber

vagabon movin on

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2007 - 02:25am PT

I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. so i ran over and said "stop! don't do it!" "Why shouldn't I?" he said. I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!" He said, "Like what?" I said, "Well...are you religious or atheist?" He said, "Religious." I said, "Me too! Are you Christian or Buddhist?" He said, "Christian." I said, "Me too! Are you Catholic or Protestant?" He said, "Protestant." I said, "Me too! Are you Episcopalian or Baptist?" He said, "Baptist!" I said, "Wow! Me too! Are you Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord?" He said, "Baptist Church of God!" I said, "Me too! Are you original Baptist Church of God, or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God?" He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God!" I said, "Me too! Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, reformation of 1915?" He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God, reformation of 1915!" I said, "Die, heretic scum", and pushed him off. -Emo Phillips

climbrunride

Trad climber

Durango, CO

Oct 12, 2007 - 02:26am PT

Uuuuuhhhhhhh??????

climbrunride

Trad climber

Durango, CO

Oct 12, 2007 - 02:26am PT

Here Sparky, I'll post again so you're not the only one on your own thread.

Sparky

Trad climber

vagabon movin on

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2007 - 02:27am PT

it is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle

Sparky

Trad climber

vagabon movin on

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2007 - 02:33am PT

Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history. -Pat Robertson

Sparky

Trad climber

vagabon movin on

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2007 - 02:40am PT

There is no abstract art. You must always start with something. -Pablo Picasso

Goodnight.

Jaybro

Social climber

The West

Oct 12, 2007 - 09:49am PT

"Destruction iis the first step in creation." (or something like that) -ibid

bachar

Trad climber

Mammoth Lakes, CA

Oct 12, 2007 - 09:54am PT

"If Jesus were alive today, there is one thing he would not be: a Christian."

Mark Twain

Sparky

Trad climber

vagabon movin on

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2007 - 09:57am PT

Time you enjoy wasting, is not wasted. -John Lennon

Gary

climber

Desolation Basin, Calif.

Oct 12, 2007 - 10:04am PT

"Gentlemen, I'm surprised at you. The American farmer didn't get where he is today by celebrating Christmas with phony trees and wax popcorn, plastic candy canes. Gentlemen, to the American farmer Christmas is real. He goes out with ax in hand, chops down his own tree, brings it back, garlands it with strings of popcorn from his own corn crib, makes cider from his own apple trees. And when Christmas carols ring out in the still of the night, he looks up to the sky and says, 'I'm proud to be an American farmer on Christmas."

Oliver Wendell Douglas

bachar

Trad climber

Mammoth Lakes, CA

Oct 12, 2007 - 10:38am PT

If Jesus had been killed twenty years ago, Catholic school children would be wearing little electric chairs around their necks instead of crosses.

Lenny Bruce

Sparky

Trad climber

vagabon movin on

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2007 - 11:15am PT

Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it. -Buddha

GDavis

Trad climber

SoCal

Oct 12, 2007 - 11:49am PT

Don't wrestle with pigs, you'll only get dirty and the pigs will like it. - Grandpa :D

Karl Baba

Trad climber

Yosemite, Ca

Oct 12, 2007 - 12:36pm PT

"Spend a bunch of money on my various goods and services"..........Karl Baba

bachar

Trad climber

Mammoth Lakes, CA

Oct 12, 2007 - 01:58pm PT

"You'll climb better if your shoes are comfortable". - John Bachar

Alex Perry

Trad climber

California

Oct 12, 2007 - 02:07pm PT

Confucious say, girl who have red hair have red hair by cracky.

Confucious say, man who pass gass in church sit in pew.

Christians are as far from Christ as it gets. But that does not mean Christ did not exist. Nor does it mean there are not true followers of Christ.