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Pie

Trad climber
So-Cal
Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 12, 2017 - 02:23am PT
Hey can anyone reccommend a headlamp good for night climbing? Very bright and battery life lasts a long time.
zip

Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
Sep 12, 2017 - 04:28am PT
Outdoorgearlab.com
I just ordered a Black Diamond rechargeable.
Mike.

climber
Sep 12, 2017 - 06:52am PT
So far so good:

http://blackdiamondequipment.com/en_US/headlamps-and-lanterns/storm-BD620633OCTNALL1.html

Takes 4 AAAs; 22 hour run time on high should get ya to daybreak. One bad experience with rechargables was enough for me.

I have the Icon also, but I prefer the batteries being located in the bulb case rather than a separate case. In cold weather I might pick the Icon since it has 4 AAs vs AAAs.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Sep 12, 2017 - 07:23am PT
Love my BD Icon but then I don't night climb.

Susan
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Sep 12, 2017 - 07:29am PT
I got the Coast and it is great.

http://www.outdoorgearlab.com/topics/camping-and-hiking/best-headlamp
WBraun

climber
Sep 12, 2017 - 07:34am PT
Don't get a coast for a climbing headlamp.

They have no current limiting regulator circuit.

That's why they are cheap.

fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Sep 12, 2017 - 08:21am PT
'Very' Bright and lasts a 'long time'...

Well, with those specific requirements :) I'd heartily recommend the NiteRider Pro Series(Pro 1800 Race - $350)... Mine's kinda old but has a 5200maH lithium battery that's pretty light and a really nice helmet mount.

On the brightest setting it's blinding but we've climbed ice for 5-6 hours at time during the night and it's just like daytime.

https://www.niterider.com/mtb/
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Sep 12, 2017 - 08:49am PT
They make headlamps that are both rechargeable and can take AAA batteries. Most decent LED lamps will outlast your epic.

https://www.rei.com/rei-garage/product/121475/black-diamond-revolt-headlamp?CAWELAID=120217890003876341&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=16301317480&CATCI=aud-129902659960:pla-320939757009&cm_mmc=PLA_Google|404_70181|1214750003|none|c05f63e1-c9f5-42bd-bc42-9915420d16b1
Late Starter

Social climber
NA
Sep 12, 2017 - 08:53am PT
Princeton Tec Apex...I bought one, so far so good...has red led's(+ main 300 lumen beam) which is nice for limiting battery and maintaining night vision. Don't buy one because of this recommendation. I've only had mine a month, but I had read good things. YMMV
Gunkie

Trad climber
Valles Marineris
Sep 12, 2017 - 09:49am PT
I'll throw my $0.02 in and also recommend the BD Storm. Well worth the money.
Pie

Trad climber
So-Cal
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 12, 2017 - 10:07am PT
I am looking for 7-8 hours of power, 300-400 lumens, and mounted on my helmet.
Ian Jewell

climber
Sep 12, 2017 - 10:14am PT
FACT: IN A PUSH BRAH ! NO BIVY TIL BROOKLYN ! FACT: BEST THING ABOUT CLIMBING THROUGH THE NITE IS THAT YOU CANT SEE ANY OF YOUR SKETCHY PRO BENEATH YOU, SO THEIR'S NO REASON TO WORRY ABUT FALLING !!
THE MONKEYS ARE SENDING AND THEY ARE PUSHING THROUGH THE NITE !!!!

yay for night climbing !
another nickname

Social climber
Yazoo Ms
Sep 12, 2017 - 10:29am PT
Cast a judicious eye on any and all Home Depot offerings. Coast is good n my experience ! Other, even cheaper stuff good also, in my experience. The "you get what you pay for" adage doesn't really apply...

It's my assertion/opinion.... that headlamps are increasingly based on "commodity" components and the difference in quality between premium brands and "junk" has become far more narrow than previously....

Somebody above says that Coast doesn't have a "current limiting regulator circuit" and "that's why they're cheap."

I know nothing of electricity but am skeptical.

Wikipedia says :
Current limiting is the practice in electrical or electronic circuits of imposing an upper limit on the current that may be delivered to a load with the purpose of protecting the circuit generating or transmitting the current from harmful effects due to a short-circuit or similar problem in the load.

So, I guess not having one is bad. But.... but..........

But in decades of regular headlamp use, overall the longest-lived go-to headlight I've owned (among at least eight different models) was basically a piece of JUNK.... from REI......is now of course obsolete. But it never actually broke. Unlike recent BD and Petzl I owned.
G_Gnome

Trad climber
Cali
Sep 12, 2017 - 11:27am PT
I use rechargeable eneloop batteries in a BD Storm and am very happy with it. Bright and lasts a long time.
WBraun

climber
Sep 12, 2017 - 11:36am PT
Current limiting is to limit thermal runaway on the LED from becoming destroyed.

Without current limiting the led can just keep drawing more and more current until it explodes/burns out and becomes destroyed.

High power LED's get hot on their dies and even need heat sinks.

Low power LED'd need thermal runaway projection even more since they are not on heat sinks.

Their voltage also should strictly be regulated CC and CV (constant current and constant voltage).

Including a charge pump circuit, the light output will remain constant while battery =voltage drops.

Without charge pump, the light output slowly dims as the battery voltage drops ......
another nickname

Social climber
Yazoo Ms
Sep 12, 2017 - 01:11pm PT
Sounds like a good thing. Stupid me never owned a flashlight that didn't get dimmer as its battery wore out.

To think what I've missed out on all these years!
EdBannister

Mountain climber
13,000 feet
Sep 12, 2017 - 01:53pm PT
i never found a rechargeable battery that was not also heavier.

i get the voltage issue with Nicad batteries but have not used them for forty years!
lithium batteries maintain close to maximum output for 90% of battery life, then drop off to death, i always thought of that as a warning..

Since Tom Frost left Chouinard equipment, with the exception of the cams, which were designed by engineers at UCLA, I cannot think of a single product that someone else was not already doing better and for a lower price... sorry i am not up on the headlamp market, i use a petzl.

still bewildered at the popularity of a company, that it could be argued, even ripped off it's logo, from someone else, and seemingly everything could be upgraded, if you bought it elsewhere.
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Sep 12, 2017 - 01:54pm PT
let's see now, where did i see that really cool headlamp?
Credit: hooblie
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Sep 12, 2017 - 02:03pm PT
Lots of good options out there. It's a balancing act between lumens, battery life and weight.
another nickname

Social climber
Yazoo Ms
Sep 12, 2017 - 03:45pm PT
Price when shopping is a consideration for some people. But not for others.

As for Black Diamond: They suckered me into a somewhat pricey headlamp which broke. (Actually I assume their lamps are ok if now needlessly expensive.... I just got unlucky & bought early LED design).

BD products (other than climbing) in recent decades that were design leaders and/or clearly superior for some period of time: Hiking poles, tarp tents, headlamps, "bivi-style" dome tents. Honorable mention for backpacks, bivi sacks & ski equipment. That's all I can think of....To say otherwise is drivel.

But there is always far higher profits in garments vs. "hard goods" (see Patagonia). So one might imagine that the Black Diamond mystique will gradually wear away...now that its part of a much larger company....




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