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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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May 24, 2017 - 06:06am PT
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What a mess!
On a positive note: Unless you get a real early start, the Cambria - Monterey detour up The 101 is going to save you time.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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May 24, 2017 - 06:26am PT
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Whoa- Crazy slide. Gonna be a long time before it reopens. That entire hwy is just impossible to ever really stabilize. .. and yeah I was looking at that road to the right. If there's a house up there they guy was in credibly lucky his whole property didn't end up in the Pacific.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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May 24, 2017 - 06:41am PT
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Sue Mother Nature for dumping all that earth into our ocean! It's protected, dammit!
Long tunnels needed. Hwy 17 for example should go underground from Scotts Valley to Los Gatos with 3 lanes each direction.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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May 24, 2017 - 06:55am PT
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That'll be the day I go back to Annandale.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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May 24, 2017 - 07:00am PT
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hey there say, dhayan... man oh man, i been editing my book, all night, but JUST SAW THIS email from my sis... just learned of this, :O
oh my, thanks for sharing...
chaz, thanks for the info, too...
going to see the links, and learn more...
hope folks were okay--didn't see any info yet...
oh my, :(
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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May 24, 2017 - 07:02am PT
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courtesy of the Flames thread an zzzzeeee Brown, #@yuhthnxsmahn
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WBraun
climber
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May 24, 2017 - 07:07am PT
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How many cars got buried under there when it slid?
One bulldozer should arrive today and start clearing.
Won't happen!
In America, they'll talk about it for a year first, write thousands of reports and drool before they do anything ......
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JerryA
Mountain climber
Sacramento,CA
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May 24, 2017 - 07:33am PT
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Planning to road-bike down Hwy.1 from San Jose AMTRAK Station to Paso Robles this Oct.The last three times I've done that it has taken four days & I've meet people that started in Deadhorse & were riding to Ushuaia . Wondering how many days & by-passes it will take this time.
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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May 24, 2017 - 10:57am PT
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Could be a good year for biking, if you can hike-a-bike around a few of the closures (maybe not the latest one).
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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May 24, 2017 - 01:27pm PT
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
NO.
The closure at Ragged Point is guarded, at all times, to keep people from crossing the barrier. The risk of additional slides north of the closure is so bad, hiking and biking on the road is forbidden.
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paul roehl
Boulder climber
california
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May 24, 2017 - 02:41pm PT
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Nice hike in from Chew's Ridge, Pine Valley etc. Doubt anyone's guarding the trail. Do it in a long day. Easy day and a half.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 24, 2017 - 10:02pm PT
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3 years, minimum. Werner's right, who's gonna put their neck on the block and say "It's gud!"?
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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May 25, 2017 - 12:14am PT
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How many cars got buried under there when it slid?
One bulldozer should arrive today and start clearing.
Won't happen!
In America, they'll talk about it for a year first, write thousands of reports and drool before they do anything ...... start clearing? why not just build a new road in the safer zone that nature just created. could be done in months. if there were cars buried at this point they're time capsules. of course that's but one of many closures there
is there anything about america you do like besides sucking on it's teat?
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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May 25, 2017 - 02:04am PT
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Pretty impressive.
When I was in Australia this Dec/Jan. the coast just south of where we use to live (when I was a kid along the ocean south of Sydney Stanwell Park) also had issues of slides.
One of the things in revisiting the area that impressed me was how they "solved" the problem.
Rather than rebuild after cleaning them up (over and over) they instead created a "bridge" that extended out into the ocean that went around the slide areas. As a result, slides from then on just would do their thing and "slide" under and between the cliff face and the bridge (hard to describe here for visualizing but can be seen in this link.
http://www.visitnsw.com/destinations/south-coast/wollongong-and-surrounds/stanwell-park/attractions/sea-cliff-bridge
Maybe something along those lines might be a solution for some of these areas along the Ca coast. Of course the geology may prevent it but maybe not.
That CA highway pulls in a lot of money just from attracting tourist that want to drive the coast...
and this is there anything about america you do like besides sucking on it's teat? cracks me up:-)
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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May 25, 2017 - 02:41am PT
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Rather than rebuild after cleaning them up (over and over) they instead created a "bridge" that extended out into the ocean that went around the slide areas.
CalTrans does this, also. Furthur north from the Mud Creek Slide, they built a Rock Shed over the highway, so that slides would hit the roof, and go down to the ocean.'
CalTrans also has built bridges across continual slide areas.
But, this particular place, Mud Creek, is not conducive to a bridge that jumps across the obstacle. Look at the photo. This slide requires both clearing what is there, and also loosing detritus from above. A bridge, there, would be as long as the Golden Gate Bridge.
There is an additional political obstacle: remove the slide material, without putting it into the ocean. This is absurd. But the local road workers tell me that they are supposed to remove the slide material, rock and dirt, and not let it fall into the ocean.
It seems to me that the rock and dirt is, mostly, already in the ocean. A logical plan would be to push all the rest downhill, and into the ocean.
But, that is, apparently, antagonistic to fish, so . .. . . ... .
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EDIT:
I forgot to mention that about ten miles of the central part of the Big Sur Highway One, from Lucia in the North, to Gorda in the South, is open. It can be accessed via Nacimiento-Fergusson Road, out of Jolon on Highway 101, near King City. It's about a 30 mile drive from 101 that is paved, but winding, narrow and abuts long, steep drop-offs. I believe you need to pass a minor "security check" because the road passes through Fort Hunter Liggett. Jolon to Mission to Nacimiento-Fergusson to Highway One.
There are a few campgrounds open, like Nacimiento, Limekiln and Mill Creek. The crowds should be minimal, because of the onerous overland approach.
If you voted for Trump, this might be your idea of communing with nature in the great outdoors on the magical Big Sur Coast:
HELICOPTER ACCESS
The luxury Post Ranch Inn, which is among many destinations on the southern end of Big Sur that can’t be accessed because of mudslides, is promoting a two-night stay that includes a flight in and out, starting at $4,291. The ride takes just 15 minutes from the Monterey Peninsula.
(SFGate.com)
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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May 25, 2017 - 03:16am PT
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Thanks Tom.
I haven't driven or biked the coast in probably 30 years so I guess I'm uninformed of what is there already.
Sure makes sense though to shove it all into the ocean. Heck nature does that all the time.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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May 25, 2017 - 07:22am PT
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That CA highway pulls in a lot of money just from attracting tourist that want to drive the coast...
Yup. And I'm one of them. But for the big winter, I'd be driving that road next week. I'm still spending night 1 in San Simeon, out of force of habit.
That, and where else are you going to get a room on the coast for $58 ? ( besides Oregon )
I'm not really worried about their local economy. There's a reason they charge $5.89/gal for gas, and $22 for a hamburger. ( cheese and fries are extra )
It's because they can't count on the road being open every year. They have to make in seven or eight years what other businesses make in ten.
And by charging $5.89 for gas ( self-serve ) it tells me that they aren't the least bit concerned about my economics either.
Like Mr Milktoast says, it's dangerous work. It's not worth anyone getting hurt to fix.
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you.
Trad climber
fresh, isle
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May 25, 2017 - 08:37am PT
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when i walk through a
social setting, the entire
structure of life shifts in my favor.
adoration pours across my shoulders
and vaginas, they open up to me in offering;
marriages they are closed and
fates are derailed.
men suddenly feal inferrior.
migh oh my does my passage leave a report.
dirt, though, is still boss.
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jonnyrig
climber
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May 25, 2017 - 08:48am PT
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No cars got buried in the slide. Caltrans was already doing work, and completely shut everything down after realizing the slope was unstable, according to the fake news that is the article about the slide. Russians probably had something to do with it. Too bad they didn't get it on camera, like this one...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Oops, my bad. It was the Norwegians, not the Russians. I know I know, not a natural fall; but look at the debris field!
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Or was it the Chinese?[Click to View YouTube Video]
Yosemite rock fall:
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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