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maldaly

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 14, 2016 - 09:38pm PT
http://www.climbingyosemite.com/portfolio/accident-report-dropped-haul-bag-el-cap/
Mighty Hiker

climber
Outside the Asylum
Jul 14, 2016 - 09:44pm PT
Why, was Pete in the haul bag?

As of two days ago, he was fishing in Ontario. His usual MO doesn't include moderate free routes at the base of El Cap, in July.

The injured climber is named Pete, but it isn't an unusual name.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Jul 14, 2016 - 09:49pm PT
Sending thoughts out to both Pete's....rj
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Jul 14, 2016 - 10:13pm PT
that's fuct' up
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Jul 14, 2016 - 10:15pm PT
hey there say...


wow, as to this... i was surprised, as, too, i saw he was fishing...

whew, glad he is okay, then...


but wow, sad to hear this... and yes, as jody said:

Jul 14, 2016 - 09:45pm PT
Well, even if it wasn't PTPP, still praying for the Pete it did happen to.


sure will!!!


going to read what happened, now...

thanks for sharing... any climber, down, needs our support...
oh my, :(
Mei

Trad climber
mxi2000.net
Jul 14, 2016 - 11:29pm PT
On Sunday June 16th at approx 12:30 pm Yosemite dispatch received a 911 call of a climber injury on El Capitan in the vicinity of the Heart Ledges rappels.
Last time June 16 landed on a Sunday was in 2013. Hope Pete's arm is all healed up by now.

It's a good lesson to be learned by all at Pete's expense.
rwedgee

Ice climber
CA
Jul 15, 2016 - 12:20am PT
Tough crowd....funny too.
Hope everyone is OK
As previously stated....for Pete's sake
enjoimx

Trad climber
Yosemite
Jul 15, 2016 - 02:29am PT
The injury happened on Little John Right.

You guys really think PTPP would be free climbing on el cap?I dont think so......
couchmaster

climber
Jul 15, 2016 - 06:19am PT


Wish this Pete well. That had to be pretty damned painful to have a loaded haul bag hit you from such a long distance up. The accident report from the link upthread is one of the better ones I've read. Accident reports usually screw up plenty of details and you're still left wonder what occurred. Not this time.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jul 15, 2016 - 06:50am PT
"Dang it! We missed him. Obama's not gonna be happy this time!"

See, who needs accident reports?

Just blame the prez.

Seriously, glad Pete will live.
Mike.

climber
Jul 15, 2016 - 08:17am PT
Best wishes for a solid recovery, Pete. May any ongoing disability be minor. Keep your wits during recovery and be good with your therapy. Power to ya.

Your situation hits close to home. I got an open limb wound on the SW face many years ago which has altered my athletic life to this day. I'm extremely grateful for other climbers (Bill and Hans) and to YOSAR for getting me to care in time to avert amputation. You are, likewise, lucky which is tough to realize when completely in the system and dependent. Stay strong and keep that runout spirit going.
Gunkie

Trad climber
Valles Marineris
Jul 15, 2016 - 08:39am PT
That is a pretty severe injury. Hope this guy regains full use of his arm.
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Denver CO
Jul 15, 2016 - 08:44am PT
Good luck with your arm Pete. The explanation for how the haulbag unclipped itself makes no sense.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jul 15, 2016 - 10:19am PT
The explanation for how the haulbag unclipped itself makes no sense.

Amen. I thought the same thing while reading the article.

Better to say something like, "Have no idea how this happened" than to invent some fantasy where magical fairies lift the bag enough to unweight it from the 'biner, while another opens the LOCKING 'biner and slips the slings out of it, and then the heavy-lifting fairies let go. Not buying it!

Vibration? Uh, no.

It would be good to get to the REAL story of what happened. And I do hope that Pete is recovering and will suffer no long-term effects!
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Jul 15, 2016 - 10:27am PT
Better to say something like, "Have no idea how this happened" than to invent some fantasy where magical fairies lift the bag enough to unweight it from the 'biner, while another opens the LOCKING 'biner and slips the slings out of it,

the slings became unweighted when the bag hung on a ledge. This allowed the slings to come off an apparently unlocked biner. When the bag was freed fromthe ledge it dropped. Sounds like bad luck with the bag dropping, good luck that it only broke an arm.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jul 15, 2016 - 11:01am PT
This allowed the slings to come off an apparently unlocked biner.... Sounds like bad luck...

Sounds like really bad luck. Locking 'biners don't just unlock, and if it was unlocked, they don't just magically open. I certainly struggle to imagine what events caused not one but both slings to just pop out of a locking 'biner, even given just the right sort of unweighting due to the ledge, or that both non-locker 'biners/slings got unattached simultaneously.

Everything comes down to the phrase "somehow unclipped," and that's where the magic happens. Unpacking that magic would be valuable indeed, although it's probably never gonna happen, sadly.
overwatch

climber
Arizona
Jul 15, 2016 - 11:44am PT
agreed, nothing really to be gleaned that is of value due to the apparent PTSD symptoms from the 'chaos of the moment'.
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Jul 15, 2016 - 12:31pm PT
The analysis was crystal clear and written in plain English. Slings unclip from biners all the time. A little too wordy would be my only complaint.

WTF is with the thread title? There's only 1 Pete I know on ST.com, must have been him - as if the group here [and it's views on things] represents more than 0.0001% of the climbing world.
Radish

Trad climber
SeKi, California
Jul 15, 2016 - 01:28pm PT
And then there's the other part. The Park probably won't charge for the rescue, but is the climber who dropped the bag liable for Pete's medical bills?
overwatch

climber
Arizona
Jul 15, 2016 - 02:16pm PT
uh oh, Jillypees' feathers are ruffled
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