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Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 16, 2015 - 07:11am PT
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The Tuolumne Meadows Gas Station and Shop will close for good on 9/15/15. All buildings and infrastructure will be removed.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Jul 16, 2015 - 07:15am PT
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What happened?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 16, 2015 - 07:24am PT
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Is closing the road also part of the 'masterplan'? Why go about it half-assed?
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 16, 2015 - 07:28am PT
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Not far from there a bear walked right through our camp while the stove was open and cooking. Didn't say much for our diet that it preferred to go to the trash bins.
That's about it on the web.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 16, 2015 - 07:31am PT
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Though particular about food, to the bear, one building is the same as another. :-)
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Jul 16, 2015 - 07:59am PT
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Really... the Gassaneering building ...
I have to agree.. many Fantastic memories........
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Jul 16, 2015 - 09:13am PT
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Mike Brown. Where is he? Still in Mammoth? I miss that guy.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jul 16, 2015 - 09:18am PT
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Why go about it half-assed?, asks Reilly.
It's the park service, Jake.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 16, 2015 - 09:22am PT
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Fantastic! Five dollar gas and ramshackle construction ( the store) won't be missed.
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10b4me
Social climber
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Jul 16, 2015 - 09:44am PT
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What's next, the store, and the Grille?
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Jul 16, 2015 - 10:35am PT
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Is closing the road also part of the 'masterplan'? Why go about it half-assed?
Those of us with very long memories remember the opposition of the Sierra Club to the building of the new Tioga Road. While I, for one, am glad I don't have to weave my way through Dark Hole and down from Snow Flat to Tenaya Lake, I do miss the general courtesy that drivers maintained on that old road. Road rage didn't exist there - unless the driver was enraged at the road itself, rather than other drivers. Of course, one-day trips up Tenaya Peak from Fresno were not in order, either.
John
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Trashman
Trad climber
SLC
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Jul 16, 2015 - 10:46am PT
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^ Now that sounds like a fun time!
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jaaan
Trad climber
Chamonix, France
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Jul 16, 2015 - 11:29am PT
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Those of us with very long memories remember the opposition of the Sierra Club to the building of the new Tioga Road.
John, where did the old road go? Was it basically the same as the present one?
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Jul 16, 2015 - 11:46am PT
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John, where did the old road go? Was it basically the same as the present one?
Not really, Jaaan. Portions of it are still in use in close to their original condition -- the road to Snow Flat (the start of the trail to May Lake), and that to the Yosemite Creek campground remain. From Yosemite Creek, it wound upward (past Dark Hole, among other places) to rejoin the current route near its last turn out of the Yosemite Creek drainage, but the path of the old road is difficult to see there. From there to the Snow Flat turnoff the new road pretty much parallels the route of the old road, with some deviations around Porcupine Creek, but the part of the new road from the May Lake turnoff to Pywiak Dome is new. Olmstead Point was not on the old road, and the old road went on the other side of Tenaya Lake, hidden in the forest.
You can see part of the old road as a trail coming in just before reaching Tenaya Lake traveling eastbound. Imagine a modern RV trying to negotiate that!
The road east of Tioga Pass was improved later in the 1960's. It was quite exciting before its improvement.
John
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Jul 16, 2015 - 12:25pm PT
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part of the new road from the May Lake turnoff to Pywiak Dome is new. Olmstead Point was not on the old road, and the old road went on the other side of Tenaya Lake, hidden in the forest.
You can see part of the old road as a trail coming in just before reaching Tenaya Lake traveling eastbound. Imagine a modern RV trying to negotiate that!
Thanks for the info. I just got on Google Earth and you can actually see parts of the old road if you look closely. It looks like it was quite an adventure.
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Fan
climber
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Jul 16, 2015 - 01:27pm PT
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Our first trip to Tuolumne was during the controversy over the road. Parts of it were one way traffic. What I remember vividly was being the bait for the mosquitoes at Tenaya Lake. Would modern cars put up with white gas (for the Coleman) when poor planning necessitated its use to avoid the high prices at the gas station?
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Jul 16, 2015 - 03:10pm PT
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Fan
climber
Jul 16, 2015 - 01:27pm PT
Would modern cars put up with white gas (for the Coleman) when poor planning necessitated its use to avoid the high prices at the gas station?
White gas is light Naftha and some Hexane ( actually includes a mix from C5 to C9) , so yeah , but probably you would get engine knock or ping since it is low octane. I actually did it once, but I think that car was before computerized ignition. That was in the petrified forest when it was 40 mi to the only gas station and got there just as it was closing.
Newer cars might actually work better, since they will adjust timing with the oxygen sensor, and there aren't heavy metals in it, so it probably wouldn't wreck your catalytic converter. But you might have to reset your 'check engine' light when you get to a fill up. You do have an OBDII dongle, right?
Gas mileage would probably suck. Save it for dire emergencies.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Jul 17, 2015 - 08:19am PT
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Ramshackle construction ha ha.
Ramshackle culture too!
The usual suspects behind the gas station/mountain school, standing in front of the RAT ROOM.
Messick, Brossman, Ashworth, Kerr, Hawkins
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jaaan
Trad climber
Chamonix, France
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Jul 17, 2015 - 08:19am PT
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Olmstead Point was not on the old road, and the old road went on the other side of Tenaya Lake, hidden in the forest.
@ John. This is just so interesting! Using Google I can see 'Tenaya Lake Trail' running along the SE side of the lake - which I take to be the old road? But HOW did it avoid Olmstead Point? Zooming right in I can see a trail/path downhill from Olmstead point sort of paralleling the modern road - is that it?
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