832F, the world's most famous wolf, killed in legal hunt

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Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 11, 2012 - 07:56am PT
Seems to me a hunter who scopes in a wolf with an orange collar would pick another "trophy" to hang on above the mantel. This is the 8th collared wolf to be killed in the first legal hunt in decades. 832F's portrait is highlighted in the current issue of American Scientist.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/09/science/earth/famous-wolf-is-killed-outside-yellowstone.html?ref=science
http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/pub/2012/6/the-cost-of-the-wild
mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
Dec 11, 2012 - 08:53am PT
You mean that a predator in the outdoors was actually killed?



Noooo--the inhumanity of it all!!!


That wolf was supposed to live in the Mammoth Employee Dorms for the rest of its retired life...


...collar and all.
Chewybacca

Trad climber
Montana, Whitefish
Dec 11, 2012 - 09:10am PT
She was a beautiful wolf. I got to watch her on several occasions. Sad to see her killed this way. On a positive note, her death has re-energized the pro-wolf crowd. This story has made the international news circuit. Yesterday Montana closed the wolf hunting season on the north side of Yellowstone due to the number of study wolves killed.

There has also been a news release about California's lone wolf. Sorry I don't have time to link that story.

Oh yeah, a friend just told me that her pack, the Lamar Canyons, are back in their home territory of the Lamar valley.
Silver

Gym climber
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:06am PT
Uh you might not want to let the hunter know where the prey is.

Good news otherwise in that non native wolf being shot by a legal hunter.

Riley while I find you an I retesting man I find your post to be ridiculous but that it does not surprise me that you a known liberal would belittle others for enjoying a sport you do lot agree with.

Kinda like when a conservative doesn't want a gun he doesn't buy one when a lib doesn't want a gun he tries to outlaw them.

More elk and deer and less non native wolves.
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:25am PT
People who hunt suck. What kinda POS would shoot a collared wolf?
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:31am PT
Totally justified...a man's gotta put food on the table...

POS.
bigwall shitter

Social climber
the wild west
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:36am PT
I'm a liberal and a hunter. Hunting is great. It's like a climbing approach except instead of busting your ass to get in to the mountain you're walking around quietly looking around for animals. Plus, there's nothing quite like shooting and butchering an animal yourself and then eating it all winter. The statement that all hunters suck seems pretty ignorant.

Last year the MT wolf population grew 15% even with the hunts. They're dogs, they reproduce faster than the average crowd of rifle totin' (mostly) males can kill them. I think the hunts are fantastic. The wolves continue to thrive while placating most of the ranchers and farmers who are actually affected by the reintroduced wolf population, unlike (to quote rockjox) you kommies from kalifornia. Seriously, most people shouldn't give a f*#k all how wolves are managed, their life will not change either way.
Moof

Big Wall climber
Orygun
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:42am PT
Seriously, most people shouldn't give a f*#k all how wolves are managed, they're life will not change either way.

Same goes for genocides on some other continent, but I still choose to care. It is amazing any of these animals survived before man came along to "manage" them...
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:42am PT
most people shouldn't give a f*#k all how wolves are managed, they're life will not change either way
I'm continually amazed by how many people can't write basic english.
How dumb do you have to be to confuse their and they're?
And why wouldn't you just cut & paste the quote in the first place?
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:44am PT
There used to be wolves throughout the country. They belong as part of a healthy ecology.

Although hunters raises more money for conservation than all the granola crunching Sierra clubbers, I think we need to bring them back, so there should be a hunting moratorium until then.

But it was a legal hunt. The collar was returned. (It wouldn't have looked good on the wall anyway.)
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:54am PT
Calling a human just another predator to justify killing (oops, I mean 'harvesting') is silly.

Can a human even run down a deer and kill it with it's own hands, teeth?

Does this said human predator even live in the same environment?

Does this human predator have no other choices to live?
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:56am PT


In the meantime, kids are sick and starving to death all over this great world of ours...

Yeah...

I know...

the wolves are more important...


monolith

climber
albany,ca
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:57am PT
^^False choice^^
bigwall shitter

Social climber
the wild west
Dec 11, 2012 - 11:00am PT
Same goes for genocides on some other continent, but I still choose to care. It is amazing any of these animals survived before man came along to "manage" them...

A genocide results in the loss of human life. A managed hunt on wolves results in around 200 dead wolves per state -MT, ID, WY- a year (at least in the last couple years).

I already said this but you seem to have missed it. Most people in those three states passionately hate wolves, I have heard people proudly tell stories of how they killed wolves without a tag. These hunts allow these people to be partially satisfied (they'd rather each and every wolf was dead) while allowing the overall population to grow.

Last year there were 2 wolves that were hit by cars in my county, THEY'RE back.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 11, 2012 - 11:02am PT


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bigwall shitter

Social climber
the wild west
Dec 11, 2012 - 11:03am PT
I don't hunt wolves, I think they're great for the ecosystem but more importantly I have no desire to spend that much time looking for a animal that will only provide me with a pelt if I shoot it.

Elk burgers though, now those are delicious.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Dec 11, 2012 - 11:04am PT
"Stupid f*#king white man"

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&tbo=d&biw=480&bih=268&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=%22stupid+f*#king+white+man&oq=%22stupid+f*#king+white+man&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.12...16670.16670.0.19480.1.1.0.0.0.0.820.820.6-1.1.0...0.0...1ac.1.E6jyeHP4ULc#i=5

Can a human even run down a deer and kill it with it's own hands, teeth?
As a matter of fact, yes! Read 'Born to Run" by Christopher McDougall.
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Dec 11, 2012 - 11:07am PT
Yeah, humans can run animals to heat exhaustion in hot weather, but they don't kill them with their hands, teeth. We sweat, but they can't.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Dec 11, 2012 - 11:13am PT
Is that really such a hard concept for you mono? Ever seen a deer? They ain't all Towering bambi's. And they're all sprinters, not joggers.
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Dec 11, 2012 - 11:17am PT
Yep, I can imagine some sick human killing a trusting baby deer with his hands, teeth.

What's the point again? That means one is entitled to kill anything with guns and justify it as natural predator behavior?

And show me a human running down a deer in cool weather like a predator can.
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