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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Dec 17, 2010 - 12:16pm PT
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I'd never heard of it until that girl was smoking it on TV.
Probably like smoking banana peels or dry lettuce.
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Prod
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 17, 2010 - 12:18pm PT
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Chaz watch the link. It blows banannas away.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Dec 17, 2010 - 12:19pm PT
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It's gotta taste better.
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nature
climber
Tuscon Again! India! India! Hawaii! LA?!?!
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Dec 17, 2010 - 12:23pm PT
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don't do it alone.
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Prod
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 17, 2010 - 12:29pm PT
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Tkingsbury post explians Natures post.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Dec 17, 2010 - 12:41pm PT
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I went on a call three years ago for a guy who tried it with his wife. She did fine he totally tripped out and started ripping the house apart from paranoia. We found him curled up in a ball on the front porch of his house with his wife trying to calm him. I guess it can be a crapshoot.
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Prod
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 17, 2010 - 01:06pm PT
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Speaking of Glue Mr Locker,
I have a pair of shoes in need of some TLC. Give me a bump if you are interested in fixing them. Acopa Spectras.
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edejom
Boulder climber
Butte, America
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Dec 17, 2010 - 02:52pm PT
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Batrock, it is my opinion that it affects men and women differently. This is a VERY powerful shaman hallucinogen that is misunderstood and abused.
The Mexican tribe/region that uses it in rituals and vision quests treat it with respect. Imagine a young male tribe member confused about his place in the world, then having a shaman spend a day with him around a fire chewing the plant leaf's psychoactive materials--the lesson being to find that young man's purpose and meaning to the world.
Women already have a designated purpose, and do not need the heavy vision questing as do males.
The Salvia that can be purchased legally (and abused) is in extract form, ranging from 5X to 100X the potency of the plant in its natural state. BE VERY CAREFUL with this "drug"--always have a sober sitter, and be mentally prepared ahead of time for what MAY occur during the process.
Salvia Divinorum reacts and stimulates the Pineal Gland, which is the "3rd Eye" to dreams and altered conscious states.
btw, the trip for me was spending 9 minutes (real time) in Cartoon Land which felt like I was stuck there for a week.
Research this one fully, before delving into the shaman's realm of life...
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Dec 17, 2010 - 03:20pm PT
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The best part is when he tries to keep writing and it just goooooooooooes awaaaaaaaaaaaay in an instant.
No more writing for you right now bub.........
BWA HA HA hahahaaa!!!
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Levy
Big Wall climber
So Cal
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Dec 17, 2010 - 03:23pm PT
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I tried it once, it was very powerful & scary. I'll never try it again.
EDIT**
I tried it while sitting on my couch. Next thing I was aware of, I was standing on a vast plain, kind of like a dry lake playa of infinite dimensions. A huge object of immense size was rushing towards me. I don't know if it was a building, an obolisk like the one in 2001 Space Oddyssey, or a huge building. In any case, it was fast approaching me & like in most dreams, I was unable to move or run from it. Just as it was going to hit me, it stopped & dropped away leaving me on the edge of a huge cliff and I was losing my balance and starting to fall into the void. Just as I began to scream, I woke up on my couch, covered in sweat.
End Edit***
Much stronger than weed, more scary than acid.
A friend of mine tried it after hearing of my experience and when he came to, he said he didn't want to discuss what he saw. Enough said.
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edejom
Boulder climber
Butte, America
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Dec 17, 2010 - 03:28pm PT
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"I have no belief in the "it's hundreds of times more potent than used to be available" bullsh#t."--Rox
NOT TRUE !
The "X" number indicating potency is for EXTRACTS of the plant leaf--5X equals 5 grams of leaf reduced to 1 gram of "extract".
There is a HUGE difference between 5X and 100X--trust me on this one...
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Dec 17, 2010 - 04:00pm PT
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nature - Why would you recommend not doing it alone? Serious question.
just wondering.
Looking at the input from others and watching those who do it on tape, seems like it might be a very intense "high" with slow roll down within minutes... Not that I'm ever going to try, just wondering.
I would think, unless someone was in public, this might be safer alone; no self conscious vibe, no angst from a group setting.
Also, does it seem like it is one of those drugs that you cannot come back from. When I first did A, I felt like I was leaving myself to a past that may never be recovered. But that's just me, and my memory of the experience.
cheers
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edejom
Boulder climber
Butte, America
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Dec 17, 2010 - 04:07pm PT
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Jingy, a "sitter" will keep you from accidentally hurting yourself, help you to remain "grounded", and make sure that you don't wander off and get into "trouble".
Highly recommended (having a sitter), btw--as you are so "out of it" that cognitive coherent thoughts cannot be carried out. It's not just hanging out giggling and laughing for a few minutes, though it can certainly look like that is all that is happening.
edit: Salvia will always bring you back to reality after it wears off (which is quickly), which is NOT true for acid.
VERY different psychoactive compounds AND experiences at work there. NO comparison between LSD and Salvia Divinorum can be made, as different parts of the brain are affected by each of them.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Dec 17, 2010 - 04:18pm PT
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But does it cause an achy breaky heart?
Edit: A Cyrus joke.
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edejom
Boulder climber
Butte, America
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Dec 17, 2010 - 04:20pm PT
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If that's where your subconscious mind is, YES :-)
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Prod
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 17, 2010 - 04:28pm PT
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Wow. Some interesting stuff here. Too bad it was not around when I would have tried it... I'll stick to beer and scotch for now.
Love this post.
I tried it once, it was very powerful & scary. I'll never try it again.
Much stronger than weed, more scary than acid.
A friend of mine tried it after hearing of my experience and when he came to, he said he didn't want to discuss what he saw. Enough said.
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edejom
Boulder climber
Butte, America
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Dec 17, 2010 - 04:46pm PT
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A quick tutorial for adults wishing to try Salvia:
Buy the strongest extract that you can find, I would say 20X minimum for "full" effect.
1. A water pipe works best
2. A torch lighter works best
3. Flame the material throughout the WHOLE hit (not like weed)--Salvia needs high temps to be most effective.
4. Hold the smoke for 20 seconds
5. Repeat 1-4 if you can :-)
6. Enjoy the trip into your subconscious mind
Duration: 2-10 minutes with a 20-30 minute "coming down" phase--after that, life will be normal BUT reality may never be the same again.
edit: Salvia Divinorum (and its extracts) is LEGAL in most States, but not all. The extracts are sold as "incense, not for human consumption" for legal purposes.
If you going to experience Salvia, please research the history, and effects--you will have a more positive experience.
A great drug reference tool site:
http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia.shtml
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Dec 17, 2010 - 06:45pm PT
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I started a thread about this a while back. Salvia will make the furniture in your casa chase you around, if you aren't careful...Thank god its illegal now. How dare a plant like that grow, in soil and under the sun and all that.
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