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Tony Bird
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Northridge, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 30, 2010 - 09:12am PT
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i notice we're mostly californians on ST with some oregon and washington fringe.
pretty good wine country. we need to discuss this stuff.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Jun 30, 2010 - 09:23am PT
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the wine is gone.
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 30, 2010 - 09:34am PT
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even the chuck?
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hooblie
climber
from where the anecdotes roam
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Jun 30, 2010 - 09:40am PT
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there's some crust in the bota bag...from concentrate anyone?
sorry. i think it was mulled wine,kept warm under parka. came from a little tasting room beneath the road, perched above the river in the gold country north of ynp, mid '70s. where was that, above china camp or something? tasty, thick burgundy with spices
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Jun 30, 2010 - 10:24am PT
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New Mexico also has some pretty fab vineyards and wineries.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Jun 30, 2010 - 10:31am PT
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hobblie you know of a tasting room beneath the road?
is it a cave, or a troll dwelling?
a good friend of mine farms in Apple Hill. he inherited his ranch from his grandfather.
UNDER their cabin is a cellar. you descend soft plank stairs into the earth and enter thru a wood slab door with a little stain glass window.
once in, there is a single decrepid light bulb hanging from the ceiling by a noose. pull the chain and have a seat at the small and lonely table in the middle. all the wine racks are empty. the stone foundation walls bear moss and somewhere in the corner, a drip drops.
the beams overhead are hand hewn and thus tell a thousand stories of love's hardship.
my good friend sorenson pulls a tap that sticks from the face of an old frigidaire. into two copper goblets flows his home-brewed barley wine.
we sit across the table and subtly change the coarse of mankind thru small talk.
eeking out an existence, i.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
SoCal
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Jun 30, 2010 - 11:06am PT
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The Gnarly Head Old Vine Zin 2007 is fine like an excellent 5.10b at Joshua Tree.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Jun 30, 2010 - 11:36am PT
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Gnarly head from Lodi is good but Malibu family wines Zin is much more warmer!
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 30, 2010 - 11:50am PT
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take out the sulfite--use the troglodyte.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Jun 30, 2010 - 11:51am PT
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the last excellent 10b i did in josh was a todd gordon route dubbed,
"6-pack"
after thrashing over the lip and putting my partner on belay, i layed into the 6'er of brew that i had stashed in the shade of the chimney.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Jun 30, 2010 - 01:03pm PT
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Let's talk about something more interesting, like Italian wines.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 30, 2010 - 01:17pm PT
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Let's talk about something more interesting, like Italian wines.
That conversation would likely be just you and me, talking to ourselves. And speaking of Italian wine, when are you and Masha coming over to help deal with that magnum of Barolo I put aside for you?
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Jun 30, 2010 - 01:50pm PT
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Barolo? Is that good stuff? :^)
Ghost, What are you doing next week? I have Sunday off. Plus the usual Monday and Tuesday. I'll call you.
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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Jun 30, 2010 - 01:53pm PT
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This thread has body.
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 30, 2010 - 01:55pm PT
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italy got into wine snobbery only recently after noticing the cash flow in france and california. italy has always made more wine than france, but they drink it fast and without fuss.
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Barbarian
Trad climber
The great white north, eh?
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Jun 30, 2010 - 02:02pm PT
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Adding some legs to this thread.
I am a CA Zinf man. Yes Gnarly Head is good. I had a 96 Rubicon Capts. Reserve a couple of weeks ago that was just coming into its own. Gonna get another couple of bottles of that and let it age a bit more. Nice.
So many other good wines in CA. Like 'em so much I've thought of buying a place in Amador County for my retirement. 20 acres or so. Just enough room....
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 30, 2010 - 02:09pm PT
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italy got into wine snobbery only recently after noticing the cash flow in france and california. italy has always made more wine than france, but they drink it fast and without fuss.
This makes exactly the same kind of sense, and is just as true/false as saying something like "americans are all fat. they eat macdonalds food and drink bad beer." Or to describe Californian wines as nothing but overpriced fruit bombs. Or any other simplistic generalization.
The history of wine making and wine consumption in Italy is long and varied. It includes over 2,000 years of both snobbery and guzzling, has a serious and a non-serious side, has been both focused on cash flow and not focused on cash-flow...
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Jun 30, 2010 - 02:11pm PT
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Spot on Tony, the so called "Super Tuscans" are a prime example. On the other hand, a good number of producers are using modern methods and equipment and still maintaining traditional styles. So, when one buys a Chianti, there are two distinct styles they can come across, but mostly the traditional stuff stays in Italy.
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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Jun 30, 2010 - 02:12pm PT
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Adding some legs to this thread.
Paging Locker!
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malabarista
Trad climber
PA, then AZ, then CO, Now CA, soon OR
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Jun 30, 2010 - 02:12pm PT
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2 buck chuck. i'm glad i don't have expensive tastes
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