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Porkchop_express

Trad climber
Currently in San Diego
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 14, 2010 - 02:11am PT
What is the longest wall? Is there a consensus or is it still waiting to be discovered?
Studly

Trad climber
WA
Jan 14, 2010 - 03:19am PT
Great wall of China is the longest.
Now if you're talking about highest walls, which of course you are,....I'm not sure....Trango Towers maybe but I'm sure there is bigger walls in the Himalaya..
Porkchop_express

Trad climber
Currently in San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 14, 2010 - 03:33am PT
Ah. Correct, I meant highest top to bottom, not just above sea level or lengthwise...Thats pretty interesting to know that the "big one" may still be out there.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Jan 14, 2010 - 03:34am PT
Everest?
Porkchop_express

Trad climber
Currently in San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 14, 2010 - 03:37am PT
Well I was thinking more of a sheer rock cliff type of situation. Something akin to some of the walls on Baffin or Trango. I knew I should have anticipated the tricky semantics better...
goatboy smellz

climber
लघिमा
Jan 14, 2010 - 03:48am PT
The one you haven't finished.
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 14, 2010 - 04:01am PT
Once you get past the snide remarks, somebody usually coughs it up. Mighty hiker and Ghost are both traveling and I'm sure they would have some input. I bet Jello knows. Steve Grossman probably has an idea. C'mon you guys.
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Jan 14, 2010 - 04:05am PT
Troll . . . . 8-)
Shrug

Trad climber
The hell that is the midwest...
Jan 14, 2010 - 09:40am PT
"Mount Thor, Baffin Island, Canada; 1,370 m (4,500 ft) total; top 480 m (1,600 ft) is overhanging. This is commonly regarded as being the largest purely vertical drop on Earth at 1,250 m (4,100 ft)."
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Thor

Or... Trango Towers, the tallest nearly-vertical drop on earth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trango_Towers
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 14, 2010 - 09:58am PT
The Rupal Face on Nanga Parbat is almost 15,000 ft. in vertical gain from glacier to summit and is the longest face on planet earth. The peak is amongst the 14 8000m peaks and is heralded as one of the most dangerous mountains on earth.

Others you may google image:
The North Face of Jannu
Peak 4810
Ak Su
The South Face of Anconcogua in South America is 8000m of vertical gain from glacier to summit.
Thalay Sagar
Ama Dablam
Any Side of K2
K7
Latok I, II, III
West Face of Gasherbrum IV
Uly Biahu
The West Face of the Great Trango Towers
Shipton Spire
Kachatna Spires in Alaska
Fitzroy in Patagonia
TKingsbury

Trad climber
MT
Jan 14, 2010 - 10:11am PT
Was searching around to see some pics of some of this stuff and found this site...

check it out

http://www.climbandmore.com/climbing,0,6,0,mountains.html
Silver

Big Wall climber
Nor Nev
Jan 14, 2010 - 11:39am PT
I saw some walls in Baffin that I would think are 4000 to 5000 foot. Way back in the Gibbs/ Scott Fjord. around the back of Sillem Island. Holy crap they were huge. I would post but I wound the film on the camera wrong and got no shots. Man am I stupid some times.
Rhodo-Router

Gym climber
obsessively minitracking all winter at Knob Hill
Jan 14, 2010 - 12:33pm PT
The biggest Wall is the one in your mind
You think its all about some stupid rok
when will you learn its not about the walls of this world.

help! Werner has taken over my brain
pitonslammer

Big Wall climber
Piton Land
Jan 14, 2010 - 12:55pm PT
-Northwest Face of Great Trango
-Several walls in Baffin Fjords, I don't think Thor is 4100 feet vertical.

I wonder what the tallest mostly vertical to overhanging wall is in the world?
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 14, 2010 - 01:13pm PT
I think the only way to have an objective biggest wall is the one that is vertical for the largest distance, i.e. Mount Thor.

Most overhanging walls are overhung on the top and less than vertical on the bottom. If you drop a tape measure straight down to where it touches rock below and measure it I think that's probably the best objective measure of the biggest wall or cliff in the world.

If you start talking about walls less than vertical where does it stop? 80 degrees, 70 degrees? Clouds Rest has a huge face but it's not a wall. I guess you could have categories for biggest wall of 80-90 degrees, etc. but 90+ degrees = true cliff.

From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremes_on_Earth#Greatest_vertical_drop

Greatest purely vertical drop 1,250 m (4,101 ft)
Mount Thor, Auyuittuq National Park, Baffin Island, Nunavut, Canada

Greatest nearly vertical drop 1,340 m (4,396 ft)
Trango Towers, Pakistan (summit

What is "nearly vertical"? It's not a pure measure like vertical drop.
goatboy smellz

climber
लघिमा
Jan 14, 2010 - 01:15pm PT
Changabang would be a good objective,
then you can tell random chix you know how to top out on Changabang.

http://www.climbandmore.com/climbing,214,0,1,mountains.html
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jan 14, 2010 - 01:26pm PT
If you're talking about rock walls as opposed to mountain faces, that rules out things like Nanga Parbat and Mt. Logan which dwarf pretty much everything else on this planet.

Like Silver, I've seen some things on Baffin that are pretty huge. The maps aren't (or weren't, back then) very detailed, and most peaks outside of Weasel and Owl Valleys weren't named. But yes, there are walls there with at least 4,500 ft of relief. And of course Mt. Odin has almost 7,000 feet of rock, but it's not all in one sheer wall.

Closer to home, Mt. Combatant in the Waddington Range has a massive drop down into the Tiedemann Glacier. Greg Child and Greg Collum climbed an all-rock route there that has to be about 5,500 ft. Insane undertaking with hard aid, hard hauling, hard free climbing... I think they called it Belligerance. You can probably google it.

Never been to the Karakorum, but I know there's huge walls there. And who knows what's tucked away in western China?

Also I remember reading in Mountain in the late 70s about some Spanish climbers getting their butts kicked on a mountain in either Pakistan or Afghanistan that had 9,000 feet of relief with a lot of it on rock. Wasn't a single sheer cliff, but it was being presented as the biggest rock climb in the world.

Of course all of these pale in comparison to the cliff we're developing a few miles east of Seattle, which is easily the biggest, hardest, and most beautiful rock wall in the entire universe. Or at least in the universe of my mind.

goatboy smellz

climber
लघिमा
Jan 14, 2010 - 01:32pm PT
Fall City has the biggest wall?
ec

climber
ca
Jan 14, 2010 - 01:40pm PT
What is the longest wall? Is there a consensus or is it still waiting to be discovered?

on Mars...
pitonslammer

Big Wall climber
Piton Land
Jan 14, 2010 - 01:49pm PT
Thor is not 4100 feet, this is a fact. People saying it's that tall don't know or like to exaggerate. I'm thinking it is more like 3300-3700 vertical relief.
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