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philo

Trad climber
boulder, co.
Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 14, 2009 - 11:53am PT
Here is my old pal Chuck with his oh so last century rack.
The few springy things he borrowed from me.
Credit: philo

And with his gweeder.
That dudes got chops.
From raunch and roll to flawless, fret-less Classical Spanish and everything in between.
If it has strings Chuck can make it sing.
Credit: philo

AND...

The man can stack.
Credit: philo

And stack.
Credit: philo

And stack.
Credit: philo

Chuck can stack nuts on lead as fast as noobs can plug a cam.
And I would trust them more too.


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What's up Chuck?





ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Oct 14, 2009 - 12:10pm PT
Ya need a redo on postin those photo's Phil.

I saw on the Alpinist website that you're going to have some written words in the special Red Rocks section....congrats! I've been to the local shop but haven't seen a copy of #28, have they shipped yet?
philo

Trad climber
boulder, co.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 14, 2009 - 01:04pm PT
Yup should be on the shelves already or any day.

Wonderful Bachar remembrance.
And a farewell from Cassin.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Oct 14, 2009 - 01:26pm PT
And a Philo cartoon, to boot.

Good issue.
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Oct 14, 2009 - 01:29pm PT
Cool pics, no springs or mechanical thingy's to go wrong, just proper placement using static physics, kind of like the proper placement of your foot or hand! Now that's what I call Old School. (What is it with these old harcore's and their impish grins, did he learn that from Becker?)
Brian Hench

Trad climber
Anaheim, CA
Oct 14, 2009 - 01:33pm PT
On the topic of stacking, it would seem to me that the older straight-sided stopper designs would be more suited to stacking than the newer curved designs. Would anyone care to comment on that? Has anyone even tried to stack Wallnuts, for example?
philo

Trad climber
boulder, co.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 14, 2009 - 01:38pm PT
Yeah Ghost the 'toon was a real unexpected surprise.

Hey MossMan Chuck always had that sh#t eatin' grin. Long before he and Bryan linked up Chuck already looked like he'd just gotten away with a raid on the cookie jar.

Chuck was one of the first modern climbers to open up Escalante canyon. Many, many times his desperate first ascent would end when the rope ran out. Long before Friends and BigBros Chuck would stack tube chocks and hexes and rap to terra firma. Often the stack would fall out when unloaded and wiggled. Nerves of steel and balls of titanium. A very talented and immensely powerful man.
philo

Trad climber
boulder, co.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 14, 2009 - 02:08pm PT
Chuckles on lead.
Credit: philo


And one more stack for the load.
Credit: philo
Brian Hench

Trad climber
Anaheim, CA
Oct 14, 2009 - 03:01pm PT
That last one is clever. He's basically taking a flared placement and making it work by using the nut to improve the contact with the rock, rather than simply making the combination wider.
Jingy

Social climber
Flatland, Ca
Oct 14, 2009 - 03:42pm PT
Hold please for a seperated at birth photo...

I got just the guy, but can't post up now...

maybe later... if memory holds
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Oct 14, 2009 - 04:20pm PT
Looks like a character in the best sense of the word. Used to do lots and lots of stacking, not much anymore since using HB Offsets and cams. Still do a lot of natural pro however.
philo

Trad climber
boulder, co.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 14, 2009 - 05:39pm PT
Picture #1: Up Chuck

Picture #2: Chuck off.



The Law of Gravity will be strictly enforced.
The Law of Gravity will be strictly enforced.
Credit: philo
philo

Trad climber
boulder, co.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 14, 2009 - 10:14pm PT
here is a link to Chuck's music business.
Check it out and listen to some music.


http://www.chuckgrossman.com/
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Oct 14, 2009 - 10:16pm PT
Is he any relation to Steve?
philo

Trad climber
boulder, co.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 15, 2009 - 09:36am PT
No, I don"t believe he is.
philo

Trad climber
boulder, co.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 18, 2009 - 12:35pm PT
And bomber they are!


Here is another Grossman stack done one handed.
One hand stacking
One hand stacking
Credit: philo

In fact all these stacks were done one handed.
At least it takes him two hands to play the guitar.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Oct 18, 2009 - 12:51pm PT
I wanna hear how he freed Megapump at Escalante.

Was anybody there? Accounts?
That thing looks pretty sustained.
philo

Trad climber
boulder, co.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 18, 2009 - 01:28pm PT
In his prime Chuck was a total beast. His arms were bigger than my legs.
There should be little doubt of his capacity to climb Megapump and harder BITD.

This is a stack I tried one handed.
NutZ
NutZ
Credit: philo
It is Oh Kay but nothing like Grossman's.
perswig

climber
Oct 18, 2009 - 07:20pm PT
Arcane alchemy. (One-hand placements? Holy crap.)
We should all practice this stuff once in a while.
philo

Trad climber
boulder, co.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 18, 2009 - 07:22pm PT
Chucks a freak. He has master guitarist's fingers so he can attain all manner of weird contortions.
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
Idaho, also. Sorta, kinda mostly, Yeah.
Oct 18, 2009 - 07:30pm PT
Master Stacker.
Yowza.
That's pretty frickin' cool.
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Oct 18, 2009 - 08:14pm PT
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About to stack! Our first ascent of "Fringe of Life." 5.12, four long ...
About to stack! Our first ascent of "Fringe of Life." 5.12, four long pitches to the rim, no bolts, two cams. Indian Creek has really changed!
Credit: Allen Hill
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Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Oct 18, 2009 - 08:15pm PT
Pete Gallagher, me, Chuck, Bryan Becker. He often brings a guitar alon...
Pete Gallagher, me, Chuck, Bryan Becker. He often brings a guitar along for the walk. This past summer he was partial to a ukulele for the approach's. It's wonderful.
Credit: Julie Carey
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Oct 18, 2009 - 08:16pm PT
Bare footed and in his underwear
Bare footed and in his underwear
Credit: Allen Hill
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Oct 18, 2009 - 08:17pm PT
He's always been stylish
He's always been stylish
Credit: Allen Hill
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Oct 18, 2009 - 09:41pm PT
Hardmen both, John Catto and Chuck
Hardmen both, John Catto and Chuck
Credit: Allen Hill
Hankster

Trad climber
Eldorado Springs, CO
Oct 18, 2009 - 10:44pm PT
Sweeeet, love ya' Chuck!

Caylor
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Oct 18, 2009 - 11:23pm PT
My best memory of Escalante Canyon and Charles, (Becker only addresses Chuck as Charles) was the "Blow Out Cracks." He flawlessly led what turned out to be a stiff 12 offwidth. No cams no bolts, just the stacks. He climbed till the rope was all used up, put a stacked hex belay together and brought me up. This was in January, it was getting cold and there was beer to drink and a campfire to sit around and play music, so we elected to bail. We fixed the rope to one of his more creative anchors and rappelled, leaving the rope fixed so we could jug up it the next day and finish the route. That night the wind was out of control. I mean serious wind. After a breakfast of beer and eggs we walked up to the route and found the hexs and rope on the ground, the wind had blown the anchor out!
philo

Trad climber
boulder, co.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 19, 2009 - 01:06pm PT
Credit: philo

The fairly over vertical second pitch of Angels Away.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Oct 19, 2009 - 01:27pm PT
Ya just gotta luv those racks--Hexes rule!!!!!
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Oct 19, 2009 - 01:47pm PT
Hey Allen, in that photo of Chuck on Fringe, up at the top of the rack, is that a totally drilled out giant Forrest Titon?....shudder....
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Oct 19, 2009 - 01:58pm PT
Scott, that's what it is. I actually think that's how Forrest built them, with the holes. Chuck also had these blue t shaped things that I believe Paul Sibley made. He somehow made it all work. Climbing with Chuck was an adventure. Him driving was even more so.
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Oct 19, 2009 - 02:02pm PT
The only time I ever placed one of those was as an anchor at the top of steep cramponed snow pitch - sort of a mini "deadman".
philo

Trad climber
boulder, co.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 19, 2009 - 06:52pm PT
Not a bad use MossMan.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Oct 28, 2009 - 11:34pm PT
Twin sons of different mothers and a nutmaster after my own heart!
Pate

Trad climber
The Lost Highway
Nov 30, 2009 - 03:17pm PT
Historical USE of gear bump.
homemade salsa

Trad climber
west tetons
Nov 30, 2009 - 04:11pm PT
Fringe of Death.... you know, I was there with a load of the Gunny-masters the day you guys did that. All kinds of strange noises emanating from the crack system, if I recall correctly. Then stories afterwards of loose boulders ready to eject from the crack and behead you, or at least chop your rope. Seems like it was right after Thanksgiving 1984...
stich

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Nov 30, 2009 - 06:17pm PT
Holy Toledo! I've never seen so many nut and hex stacks. I stacked two nuts on lead once. Once. Yeargh!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 18, 2010 - 11:47pm PT
Grossman Bump!
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 19, 2010 - 12:20am PT
It's true about the rocks in the crack. At one point on the third pitch Chuck was kinda doing these weird chimney moves when all of a sudden the rock his back was pressing on flaked off in the form of a six foot by three foot slab, maybe eight inches thick. He screams to me to get small, so I stuffed the pack into the crack above me and hunkered down. That said if that thing had come down the crack I would have certainly been killed. Chuck knowing this starts to break the thing into smallish pieces that he could throw out beyond me into the talus. The whole time holding it in place with his back. This took at least an hour of struggle, screams, moans, and actual crying. God we were scared. But we pushed on and I finished the last pitch in the dark. The descent was just as bad as the climb. I don't recall anyone else out there. But it was around Thanksgiving but I think in 86.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 19, 2010 - 12:45am PT
Right on cue Allen! Story here?




From Vertigo Games.
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 19, 2010 - 01:00am PT
Oh man the "Vertigo Games" chapter. I've always hated it and so does Chuck. That's along story. That said Glen took a lot of liberties with our actual account. Oh well it's old news. We did have a lot of fun doing it. Everyone had worked it from Jimmy Dunn to Bryan Becker to no avail. I think it was the first time we realized we might just climbing as well as the elders of our group. That being the Springs/Gunnison crowd.

The following year Philo and Chuck did a harder route on the roof called "Double Time at Sues." That thing is a monster. Much harder and more dangerous. Phil can tell that story. I doubt it's had a second ascent. I ran into the climbs namesake right under it this past Summer. Had a hard time not busting up.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 19, 2010 - 01:03am PT
Was she still hot?





Mark never made it past the point in the picture.
Chuck had many other better pictures.
There is only one fuzzy one of the actual FA.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 19, 2010 - 01:07am PT
Thanks for the lowdown, Allen.

Imressive roof, anyhow!
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 19, 2010 - 01:13am PT
Me on the first day attempt.
Me on the first day attempt.
Credit: Allen Hill
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 19, 2010 - 01:14am PT
John about to fly off the big roof in Taylor Canyon.
John about to fly off the big roof in Taylor Canyon.
Credit: Allen Hill
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 19, 2010 - 01:17am PT
Chuck's famous upside down on his back belay. Note Becker is cutting h...
Chuck's famous upside down on his back belay. Note Becker is cutting himself in half with a swami belt.
Credit: Allen Hill
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 19, 2010 - 01:19am PT
Phil, she's barely aged. I'm serious. Lives in Glenwood.
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 19, 2010 - 01:22am PT
We gave Glen a ton of really good slides. We we're angry when the book came out and there's Mark not Chuck.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 19, 2010 - 01:23am PT
Really? Wow! If I can remember through the haze she was a stunner.
I can only imagine your chagrin running into her under the big roof.
"Why are you laughing so" she asked.
"I am just so happy to see you here" he chortled.
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Sep 19, 2010 - 09:45am PT
Fun thread with great pics. Thanks for posting everyone!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Sep 19, 2010 - 10:22am PT
Pretty impressive! Would love to meet the guy.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 19, 2010 - 10:27am PT
The mix of fame and notoriety can turn out to be unpalatable, at time! LOL
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 19, 2010 - 11:05am PT
Jim, Chuck would be honored to meet you. The Gunnistoners have a deep and abiding respect for the Mixed Alpine Masters. He would relish the opportunity to rope up with you and probably write a song about the experience. You would probably really dig his song called Freeclimbin'. He is currently in Tahoe living the music biz. I would be glad to give you his # if you would be going that way.
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Sep 19, 2010 - 12:47pm PT
I was so amazed when you guys finally got that thing, after I left town. I don't know how many hours I spent belaying Rosholt, John Pearson and even Bryan Becker once when he was in town. I kind of thought it was a project that would never go.

That is a massive roof, here's a couple of pics from the early 70's of Pearson working on a smaller portion of the roof (Oh Mamma Mamma). The first one is Pearson in a "dynamic retreat" on toprope. My apologies for the funky pictures, they were scanned from slides that survived a wet basement.

whoops!
whoops!
Credit: ydpl8s

This one is looking straight up, just before the "retreat" above, notice the classic gear and clothing.

Whillians, painter pants and EB's - Oh My!
Whillians, painter pants and EB's - Oh My!
Credit: ydpl8s
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 19, 2010 - 12:53pm PT
The way we wuz...
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 19, 2010 - 07:26pm PT
Hey Scott those pics^^^^ are of the Oh Mama Mama roof not WtC. We used to call it 5.10, now they call it 5.11 or some such nonsense. hehe. You can see Welcome to China to the right in the photo.

The Law of Gravity will be strictly enforced.
The Law of Gravity will be strictly enforced.
Credit: philo
Here is Chuck logging some air time on Double Time.

Splitzville
Splitzville
Credit: philo
Here is a pic of me leading Oh Mama Mama.
You all thought I was whacky because I would stem through the roof.
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 19, 2010 - 11:50pm PT
Jim, you should meet him. He's a first class guy. And can still pull down hard. Though he can be a little dramatic at times when gripped.

"Oh Mama Mama" is a fantastic climb. I think they rate it hard 11 these days. I love Taylor Canyon. Nothing like sauntering over to Harmels for a cold 3.2 Coors after a good hard steep Taylor Canyon classic.
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 20, 2010 - 12:06am PT
Chuck on "Stupid Crack of the Desert."
Chuck on "Stupid Crack of the Desert."
Credit: Allen Hill
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 20, 2010 - 12:09am PT
"Fringe of Life." This is the pitch that fell apart.
"Fringe of Life." This is the pitch that fell apart.
Credit: Allen Hill
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 20, 2010 - 09:54am PT
Stupid Crack of the Desert! Too funny!
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 20, 2010 - 10:20am PT
Here is a link to listen to a simple but happy little ditty Chuck wrote when he was 12. It's about his funny little dog Abigail.

http://www.chuckgrossman.com/mp3/abigail.mp3


And another blues romp called strut.

http://www.chuckgrossman.com/mp3/abigail.mp3



Give a listen
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Sep 20, 2010 - 11:13am PT
Phil, I guess you're in need of some cataract surgery or you've forgotten how to read in your old age. If you look right above the pictures, I state: :-) Edit: Probably just the ADD syndrome.

That is a massive roof, here's a couple of pics from the early 70's of Pearson working on a smaller portion of the roof (Oh Mamma Mamma).

Great audio clips, I'd love to jam with him sometime. - actually, you posted the same clip twice.

philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 20, 2010 - 11:54am PT
Senior moment alert.
Sorry Scott.

Phunny story about Oh Mama Mama roof.
I had just returned to the ground after leading the roof when a guy approached me.
He was blonde haired, very tanned and talked like a surfer wanna be.
"How hard is that?" he queried.
"5.10" I answered honestly.
At least that is what my hard men mentors had always told me.
"No really , how hard?" he persisted.
"5.10" I insisted.
He started to get pissy with me and I didn't know why.
Again, more forcefully he asked "How hard is that roof?"

Turns out he was from California and wanted me to give an A, B, C, or D to go with the 5.10.
He had been watching me stem through it, which actually made it look easier than it really was, and wanted to do it if it was in his letter grade ability. Unfortunately we climbed in a vacuum and the alphabet hadn't reached us yet.

I said "It's a Taylor 5.10!"
Then un wisely added "It's totally tubular Dude."
That set him off and he stormed away hurling insults over his shoulder.

I hope he has finally recovered.
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Sep 20, 2010 - 12:43pm PT
Before we figured out how to navigate the roof on Oh Mama Mama(and I don't include myself in the "we"), that climb was always started by traversing across the bottom of Whiskey Crack. I think I lost them, but I had a great 3 picture series of Scotty Gilbert leading it, taken from the sundeck, he was on blotter at the time, I was blown away.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 20, 2010 - 12:59pm PT
Mr. MossMan sir, you preceded me to Gunnison by several years and were well established as a local before I got there. I was a brash and arrogant front range phrig and you were a Vet. I admired you all so much. My life was changed when I was accepted by the local "family". Thank you.


Now back to Chuckles. He was a few years after me and was the brash arrogant front ranger d'jour.
But he was immensely powerful, thoroughly driven and beyond merely talented. It didn't take long for the locals of the day to sit up and take gape mouthed notice of the dynamo that was Grossman.
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Sep 20, 2010 - 01:28pm PT
I once wrote a song about getting old titled "Since when did I become Sir?" :-)
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 20, 2010 - 01:38pm PT
Moss, he is in Tahoe. He is always jammin. Busiest man in show business. You should head north to Lover's Leap then show up and sit in on a session.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 20, 2010 - 07:34pm PT
Up Chuck bump
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 26, 2010 - 02:25am PT
Boy I'd love to see the picture of Scotty Gilbert. I missed him by a year. I got to know his girlfriend fairly well after the accident and somehow as a result did and continue to have great great respect for him as well a strange connection to him. Doug, Jimmy, and Rosholt told me such amazing stories.... normally during my career as the get the beer boy during their poker games. Chuck, Jimmy, and Tom, did the second ascent of Gilby's Tower out in the Needles of Canyonlands in his honor about a year or two after his death. I've always thought that might be one of the neatest ascents ever.
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 28, 2010 - 12:38am PT
A few more from the way back machine. Here he is showing us that a sla...
A few more from the way back machine. Here he is showing us that a slab is hardly a issue for him. Don't fall off that 5.10 move Chuck! You'll hit the ground!
Credit: Allen Hill
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 28, 2010 - 12:39am PT
Chuck and Bryan having innocent fun for a change at my wedding. They a...
Chuck and Bryan having innocent fun for a change at my wedding. They are good climbing companions. Not sure who's taller.
Credit: Allen Hill
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 28, 2010 - 12:40am PT
We call him Chuckles but he can be sad.
We call him Chuckles but he can be sad.
Credit: Allen Hill
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 28, 2010 - 11:51am PT
Great shots and stories! Isn't it about time Chuckles pulled up a chair?!?

Tell him we have a fat recording contract waiting for him...no strings or stacks attached...LOL
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 28, 2010 - 11:54am PT
I have told him about this thread so he may have lurked. Next time I talk to him I will urge him to post up. He has great stories and pics.
TwistedCrank

climber
Ideeho-dee-do-dah-day boom-chicka-boom-chicka-boom
Sep 28, 2010 - 12:42pm PT
That foto sums up the Chuck. So did the names of his cars. He had "Gorvy" which was the black Ranchero (as I recall). Then he got "Proto" - the orange VW bug.

I have a hazy recollection of one of our trips to Escalante Canyon of getting to the top of Cerro Summit and Chuck popping Proto in neutral, putting his feet on the dashboard and exclaiming "Look! Proto's trying to fly!"

It saddened me when I stopped by Escalante last fall to find some of the routes we did back then had chains on the top of them. Sometimes the crux of Escalante routes is stepping out of the crack and on to a sloping sandy ledge strewn with loose boulders.
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 28, 2010 - 10:47pm PT
"Look Proto is trying to fly." Absolute Chuck! The El Ranchero was nam...
"Look Proto is trying to fly." Absolute Chuck! The El Ranchero was named after Gore Vidal.
Here's the first one "Otto." "Otto" had no power what so ever. On steep hills Chuck would drive the thing in reverse as it was the lowest gear.
Credit: Allen Hill
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 28, 2010 - 10:50pm PT
Another first ascent. "Cheeses of Nazareth."
Another first ascent. "Cheeses of Nazareth."
Credit: Allen Hill
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 28, 2010 - 10:51pm PT
no need for comment.
no need for comment.
Credit: Allen Hill
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 28, 2010 - 10:57pm PT
Good stuff!
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 28, 2010 - 11:08pm PT
It's fun to dig up these old photos. Chuck taught me to climb 35 years ago and we still have a ball when we get out. He's a great guy who really deserves a lot more credit for his role in Colorado climbing history.
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 28, 2010 - 11:17pm PT
Same goofy belay face only a few decades later.
Same goofy belay face only a few decades later.
Credit: Allen Hill
TwistedCrank

climber
Ideeho-dee-do-dah-day boom-chicka-boom-chicka-boom
Sep 29, 2010 - 10:52am PT
BITD Chuck had outstanding taste in climbing clothing - more so than the average Colorado crag rat. Usually his threads were held togather with masking tape and staples.

I recall one day Chuck was wearing a pair of bright red sweat pants - the kind with the elastic ankles - that had a 2 foot gash torn open along the crotch. After a day at Taylor Canyon, we somehow managed to scam some meal tickets to one of the WSC dining halls. I nearly bust my gut watching Chuck strategically sitting in view of some barely-legal Cherry Creek coeds, shifting in his seat so the hole in his sweats was playing peak-a-boo with the dorm girls.

I'm going to have to dig into the vault for some slides to scan...
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 29, 2010 - 11:01am PT
shifting in his seat so the hole in his sweats was playing peak-a-boo with the dorm girls.

Ha ha ha. In conjunction with the last Chuck pic that says a lot about a true Colorado character.
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 29, 2010 - 08:56pm PT
He's always had a great "look."
He's always had a great "look."
Credit: Allen Hill
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 29, 2010 - 08:57pm PT
He does clean up nicely though.
He does clean up nicely though.
Credit: Allen Hill
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 29, 2010 - 09:41pm PT
He is a wizard if he could get that Colorado Nut to work!
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 30, 2010 - 12:22am PT
Phil is too modest to post this, so I will. This is Phil's painting of...
Phil is too modest to post this, so I will. This is Phil's painting of Chuck that landed on the cover of one of Chuck's albums. I've always loved it.
Credit: Allen Hill
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Dec 3, 2010 - 11:07am PT
When is Chuck going to pull up a chair and play a little???
Betty Uno

Boulder climber
Denver, Colorado native
Dec 3, 2010 - 11:50am PT

I said it before and I'll say it again. They do not make them like that anymore. Hi Chuck.
Cuckawalla

Trad climber
Grand Junction, CO
Dec 3, 2010 - 12:10pm PT
Hey Allen, Jesse Zacher here. Did you see that Stewart added a small section in his new Falcon Colorado Climbing Guide for Escalante?
-jesse
FinnMaCoul

Trad climber
Green Mountains, Vermont
Dec 3, 2010 - 12:22pm PT
This is pretty wild. I lived in Colorado for a decade or so. I knew Chuck in passing through a bunch of pickers where I lived up in Jamestown. I'm an amateur harmonica player and I used to very occasionally join the fun at the Mercantile or up at a friend's garage (Nolan's place if you're lurking Chuck).

Chuck was one of the most talented but also one of the most patient guys I ever jammed with. I always felt like a better musician for having played with him.

It's funny... I knew that he climbed, but I don't think we ever had more than a short conversation about it. I had no idea he was such a pioneer.

An all around quality individual.

Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Dec 3, 2010 - 08:36pm PT
Jesse,

Stewart told me the last time I saw him which was in May. I think he had just finished the book. I haven't seen it. Likely based on the material from the first Desert Rock that Chuck supplied Eric. I've been hearing lots of new stuff is getting done which is great news! I might sneak down here before long and take it all in.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Mar 27, 2011 - 01:29pm PT
Wierd Stack Bump!
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2011 - 04:36pm PT
Beer whack stump.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 13, 2011 - 02:44am PT
Happy Birthday Chuck. What's up?
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Aug 14, 2011 - 01:07am PT
hey there say, philo.... after the ol' birthday post, i just had to give this a fast peek before signing off for the night...


wow, say, chuck, will NOW i know you here...

;)


god bless and once again, have a great birthday year,
:)
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Aug 14, 2011 - 04:32am PT
Rick Sylvester (see Son of Heart thread) doing justice to one ...
Rick Sylvester (see Son of Heart thread) doing justice to one of the old Escalante routes just two months ago.
Chuck opened that place up with almost a vengeance. I honestly can't think of a crack worth climbing there that wasn't done by the man.
Credit: Allen Hill
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Aug 19, 2011 - 03:37am PT
I just randomly met him last night at a little picking session. "Hey, you're on the SuperTopo!!!," says I. Good dude, good picker, can't vouch for his nut-stacking.
dirt claud

Social climber
san diego,ca
Oct 4, 2011 - 05:27pm PT
cool thread bump, good fun stuff on here, thanks everyone.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 4, 2011 - 06:31pm PT
Chuck Grossman Master of strings and stacks. <br/>
Chuck Grossman Master of strings and stacks.

Credit: philo
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Aug 19, 2013 - 11:33pm PT
I still can't vouch for Chuck's stacks, but here's a beaut I felt compelled to employ as a (redundant) part of a hanging belay on Hobbit Book on Saturday.
Bomber!!
Bomber!!
Credit: Willoughby

Chuck, you still in Incline? Let's pick!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 29, 2014 - 11:02am PT
Frosty Nut Stack Bump...
RyanD

climber
Squamish
Jan 29, 2014 - 02:36pm PT
Bump for another Grossman! The more around here the better!




Really cool stories, Chuck G sounds like some sort of wizard with the passive.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
May 24, 2014 - 04:33pm PT
Why thank you, sir!

Chuck certainly gets my attention and may eventually post here with a bit of luck.
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