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nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 14, 2009 - 07:19pm PT
I'm just looking for general discussion on the subject.

I know I'll get another. I don't know when. I'm lonely and like the companionship. But I can't help but feel that if I do it soon something isn't right about that. I'd feel like i'm trying to replace her. I'd feel like that maybe I'm not doing the memory of her justice.

But I also know I'll never forget her. There's a place in my heart she lives and nothing else will ever enter. There's another room, sorta the same size, just in a different place for my next best friend.

I get her ashes back Monday. I'm taking a trip to northern arizona next weekend to spread some of them.

On friday of next week I'm getting my first tattoo. a mountain peak with an Om symbol at the top and the words "Summit" underneath.

All thoughts are welcome here. There is no right or wrong answer.

I miss her... so much.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 14, 2009 - 07:23pm PT
The time will come, and you'll know it, when it arrives. Namaste
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Aug 14, 2009 - 07:26pm PT
Like I told you, get a "rescue", but down south you might look for a short haired candidate.
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Aug 14, 2009 - 07:26pm PT
Something that I've posted previously, that may be some comfort. Our last family dog died in spring 2008.

The great Swedish physician and humanist, Axel Munthe, was renowned for his love of animals. His lyrical romance, The Story of San Michele, is as much about animals as anything. It was one of the best selling books of the 20th century, and one of my favourites. He had this wisdom on a sad subject:

"Alas! the life of a dog is so short and there are none of us who have not been in mourning for a lost friend. Your first impulse and your first words after you have laid him to rest under a tree in the park, are that you never, never wish to have another dog; no other dog could ever replace him, no other dog could ever be to you what he has been. You are mistaken. It is not A dog we love, it is THE dog. They are all more or less the same, they are all ready to love you and be loved by you. They are all representatives of the most lovable and, morally speaking, most perfect creation of God. If you loved your dead friend in the right way, you cannot do without another. Alas! he also will have to part from you, for those beloved by the gods die young."

Munthe lived from 1857 - 1949, was the youngest doctor then qualified in France in 1880, and was renowned for treating anyone, from the very poor in the slums during epidemics, to the royal family of Sweden. San Michele was his villa on the island of Capri, where he spent much of his life. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axel_Munthe

I don't think Munthe got it quite right - all dogs are a little unique. I've lost several over the years, and often remember them, each in its own way.
kc

Trad climber
lg, ca
Aug 14, 2009 - 07:32pm PT
There is definitely no right or wrong answer. In my experiences running an animal hospital, some people would get a new pet the next day, some would never get another one, and most would fall somewhere in between. I think that there should be at least a little space in between to let the proper grieving take place and not let it be interrupted by a new animal. Also, there is the possibility of communicating sadness/grief on to the new animal, and that can be very confusing and lead to behavior problems or insecurity for them. Give it at least enough time so that your sadness isn't so raw and that your need isn't so huge, and then you'll find that the right animal will walk into your life at the right moment.

You'll find your way through this--after all, Summit would want you to remember her, of course, but not be torn up over her. You'll get there.
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Aug 14, 2009 - 07:32pm PT
Nature - you are right about not moving quickly on this decision.

For some reason or the other, I have always seemed to channel the spirit of Doctor Doolittle when it comes to animals. Every time I turn around, one animal type or the other somehow appears in my life.

I dug them all - but the special ones were the friends that just appeared - not quite the same relationship with the ones I picked out intentionally.

My current mutt flame is Nellie (you met her at Facelift). I had no intention of having a dog at that time, but she/I ran into each other in a hotel parking lot in Morgan Hill on a skydiving weekend. I said "Hi pup" and gave her a piece of Clif Bar and thought no more of it. Two days later I go to leave for home and there she was, sleeping behind my car and refusing to leave. I gave her a ride home thinking a friend would take her stray fanny in - they didn't, I did, mutt has been one of my best animal friends ever since.

Keep your eyes and heart open and the dog that is seeking someone like yourself will come into your life.

Rick
Denise Umstot

climber
somewhere by the beach
Aug 14, 2009 - 07:39pm PT
Nature,
Summit will always be with you in your heart. Do what you feel is right. Just because you are thinking of getting a new dog now does not mean you are replacing Summit. Companionship is a great thing!
Pennsylenvy

Gym climber
A dingy corner in your refrigerator
Aug 14, 2009 - 07:39pm PT
Took me a while Doug. Same issue, felt like a replacement scenario. What I did was enjoy my freedom from responsibility,... read go climbing in the National Parks.....

Crazy thing was I thought I had it figured out and wanted a smart dog aka border collie , Australian etc mix from the shelter and look what I got: SNOOK. I was in PetSmart and the Second Chance Shelter had a little cage in the middle of the floor. I looked over and there was that handsome dog.......he looked at me and started barking his head off...ah love at first site. Enjoy what you can about your situation and then be patient that mutt will find you! TGIF
atchafalaya

climber
Babylon
Aug 14, 2009 - 07:44pm PT
Dood (Doug), a dog NEEDS you, as much or more than you need them. You are one of the good ones, who knows, loves and treats them as family.

I said after my last dog passed that I needed time before I got another one. Took me about 6 to 8 weeks of coming home to an empty house, sitting in silence, eating without being stared at... I went to LOOK at some puppies, and could not leave without bringing one rowdy pup home for a new life.

All dogs are unique and never "replace" eachother. When the time is right for you, make yourself and another dog happy again.
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
Aug 14, 2009 - 07:48pm PT
Nature, whether your next dog arrives in your life this evening, this week, or next month, it will be exactly right. And your new dog won't be Summit's replacement at all, so don't put yourself through that anguish.

I met a couple on the train this spring, coming home from New Paltz. They saw Teddy, and he reminded them of their old dog from many years ago, and we began talking.

They had a kitten in a carry case, and of course I asked about it. The man told me about his companion cat of many, many years. How deeply connected they were to kitty, and that about a month ago, that cat had passed away, similarly as Summit. At an older age, but still too soon, after an illness.

They were distraught.

Less than a week later, this kitten(the one in the carry case) simply appeared on their doorstep. They thought it must have been put there from a well-meaning neighbor, and were going through the same thoughts. Too soon? Will we have time to cherish our cat and grieve her death? During that day of thought, the went round to talk to all their potential "kitty givers," and they were as surprised as the people! Nobody had done so. The kitten really did just somehow get connected to these people.

And so, they took this kitten in as p0art of their family. They were amazed at how the kitten seemed to bring out memories of the most wonderful qualities and times with the cat that had passed. Not in a comparing way, but as if the universe were saying something like "I know you miss cat, but you have a heart that needs to share love, and we(universe) have a lot of kittens that need that love too. Your kind of caring is so special, we(universe) don't want to lose out on one moment of it's use. So we have taken the liberty of helping you out...."





Another story - one of the people who live in a building I have clients in had 2 Bijon Frise dogs, whom they utterly adored. About a year ago, one had a health issue, again similar to Summit, where it was diagnosed and not much time on this earth was left. These people suffered in their pain. It was so obvious. Seeing them carrying the dog out to go potty. They were in such pain they could not even talk abut it. It was torture for them to even be seen, because they couldn't deal with people asking after doggie. They would just break down in tears whenever someone did.

Finally the day came when doggie passed away. Even knowing their friend was no longer in pain wasn't easing their own heartbreak. Plus, they had the other dog, and the two had been true buddies.

They were saying they needed time, but felt they would eventually bring another dog into their lives. And of course people said "take your time; you'll know when it's right."

Well - what a surprise when two weeks later, they found another wonderful Bijon and brought him into their lives. And though it happened very quickly, it was just so crystal clear that it was right.

And again, this new doggie did NOT act as a replacement. No - animals each are who they are, and as much as they will do anything to please their people, they simply cannot pull off the trick of being a surrogate.

So, even if you have that worry, try not to let it get in the way of seeing, when your new friend makes their appearance. For sure, if you miss it, the universe will try again. There are just that many wonderful dogs out there, and the dog *factory* has a pretty quick production schedule, that in short order another dog will come knocking on the door to see if you can let them in.
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 14, 2009 - 07:51pm PT
thanks everyone.

I started crying again when I read what pc wrote.


I got to what lockern00b wrote and started laughing my ass off.


Great tips and insights.
Sarah Funky Fresh

Trad climber
Fresno, CA
Aug 14, 2009 - 07:54pm PT
I am VERY sorry about your loss. I have two cats (I'm an apartment dweller, but would love a dog one day). If I make the mistake of even thinking about life without one of my companions, I get teary-eyed.

Be patient with yourself mourning your loss. You are in a process.

Can I help? I was considering doing some photo gallery pages devoted to crag dogs on my Web site but never got around to it. Your note seems to be the universe's way of saying "Go for it." We can honor your dog with a little tribute to her. Send me a photo and I'll post it.

Anyone else who wants me to put up a photo of your beloved crag companion, send a photo with your name and your dog's name to: clearascent@yahoo.com

Sarah
Melissa

Gym climber
berkeley, ca
Aug 14, 2009 - 08:09pm PT
Only you can know what's right for you, but here's my story about making new furry friends after loss...

When my first kitty, Little Girl, died, I adopted another one, Zoe, after a month. I just couldn't stop trying to do things to make the hole in heart smaller. After I was done making a scrap book, perfecting her resting place, buying and lighting candles, I ended up looking at kitties on line. I adopted Zoe not to replace Little, but definately, in part, because I hoped that we (me, J, and our other kitty, Sidwich, who was visibly mourning) would be less lonely and sad with her completing our little family.

Zoe is such a sweet and fluffy little monster, and I'm so glad to have her. However, in retrospect, I wasn't really ready to deal with the stress of co-adjusting with a new pet when I first adopted her. She wanted to dominate Sid, and he would have none of it. This story played out in urine. I was still grieving, and considering whether or not it would be necessary to rehome Zoe was very painful. Luckily, they came to some sort of co-dominance agreement although Sid never did care for her much.

When Sidwich died following a long, sad, and nursing-intensive illness, I waited a bit longer to adopt again. When the time came, I considered getting a rescue Abyssinian (Little was an aby), but I realized that popular purebred rescues tend to have a line of people waiting to adopt them. They are also likely to be inbred (if they are rescued from breeders) and have more health issues as a result.

In the end, I found the shelter in my area with the highest kill rate, and went to see if I would fall in love with any kitties. While I was meeting one kitty, a noisy guy a few cages over demanded to be introduced. And that is how I met Sandwich.

So now I have Zoe and Sandwich who love each other and me too.

I still miss Sid and Little all the time. Zoe and Sandwich can't replace them. There are times when I wish that they could. But each friendship that I share with an animal is as unique as the animal.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Aug 14, 2009 - 08:13pm PT
This story played out in urine.


That seems to happen frequently on the Taco.
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Aug 14, 2009 - 09:44pm PT
Doug, you said it best yourself:

"There is no right or wrong answer."

You'll know when it's time and it will be right.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 14, 2009 - 10:15pm PT
"each friendship that I share with an animal is as unique as the animal."


-Hipshot, putting Cilley in his place,



Hipshot and Alobar

Alobar


Natalie and Midnight


midnight one year ago



-Natalie and Dante



me and what's his name
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
Boise....
Aug 14, 2009 - 11:21pm PT
You'll know when it's time.
There's a special arrangement between monkeys & dogs.
Did they befriend us, or us them?
It's lost, in the mists of time.
There's time.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Aug 14, 2009 - 11:26pm PT
Doug

A year and a half ago we went through what you're going through now. Faraday lived 18 years, but at the end she... well, like Summit with you, she died in my arms, covered in my tears, and when she was gone there was a huge empty space in the house and in our hearts.

Somehow, we just couldn't bring ourselves around to the point of being ready for a "replacement." It just wasn't right.

But the day before christmas, about nine months after Faraday died, we were on our way somewhere and passed an animal shelter, and without even talking about it we both knew it was time.

When the time is right, you will know.

Here's Faraday. I've posted this before on some other thread, but it captures her so perfectly that I'll post it again.

And here is Mei Fu. A totally different creature, and not a replacement at all.
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
Boise....
Aug 15, 2009 - 12:18am PT
They have their lives.....You have yours.
They cross...Who knows?
We ALL shine on.
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Aug 15, 2009 - 12:58am PT
HWD, you're channeling LEB again. Stop it!

See post #48 of this thread: http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=478250

How weird is that, eh?

Edit: Post from HWD, 9:57 PM Aug 14 2009:

I wish to comment that the Universe "provides" cats. We just got "provided with" another one recently. They show up in your life whether you want them or not. I think everyone has a quotient of cats "assigned" to them - probably to make up for negative karma from the past. Depending on how bad you have been, you get more or less cats (we must have been wicked).

For this reason, it really does not pay to go out and acquire cats on your own. You will STILL get your pre-assigned quotient of cats and if you get one on your own, then you will just have extra cats to take care of.

Now, for some unknown reason, dogs are different. The universe does not seem to "provide" dogs to anyone. You have to go out and get them. I am not entirely certain why the universe automatically "provides" you with cats but not dogs.


Quote from LEB, from the link above: We are never really "done." There is always another pup around the corner for us. Life is just too empty without them. .......and then there is the whole "cat thing." I swear the universe "gives" you cats so as to help you atone for your sins. Right now, I am being systematically tortured by several such creatures. It is my karma to look after their needs while they MAY - allow some measured affection to slip through.

And, on one of the links posted below: Positively spooky, ain't it? The universe (or God, depending on your belief system) "gives you" cats. Everyone has a quota of cats which are thus "assigned" to them and it has some thing to do with your karma. Cats are put here to torture us at times (mine do so on a regular basis) and help us atone for our sins.
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
Boise....
Aug 15, 2009 - 01:01am PT
Stll shinin'.......
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 15, 2009 - 01:10am PT
keep shinin' bro. I appreciate it.

means a lot..... really does.
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Aug 15, 2009 - 01:10am PT
Also: http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=689822 (post 7)

And: http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=279353 (post 8)

But don't let LEB's beliefs about the universe, cats and quotas, or sleuthing and thread drift, intrude on something quite important. I agree with the other posters - the time will simply seem right. Our beasties may be child-substitutes, but they're good company.
Sarah Funky Fresh

Trad climber
Fresno, CA
Aug 15, 2009 - 02:33am PT
Nobody else has a photo of their beloved crag dog? I told Nature I would post a page to honor his girl, and he sent me one right away. But I need more than one photo for the page.
I know it will make him smile when he sees his beautiful girl on display.
Please include your dog's name.

Send your photos to: clearascent@yahoo.com

Thanks!!! Sarah
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Aug 15, 2009 - 02:39am PT
I have a crag cat - she can dyno six times her body length. If she can be bothered. I've never really had a crag dog, though I did take family dogs a few times.

Hypothesis: HowweirdDean is LEB's husband, or perhaps a friend. Both use the log in, LEB more often as time goes on. HWD (two variants of the name) first popped up in 2005. Maybe Ed could run a spider to see if the frequency with which HWD posted suddenly increased soon after LEB 'signed off'.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Aug 15, 2009 - 04:48am PT
hey there nature, say...

not to think that your wonderful dog, summit, would think it wrong it you gave new life to a dog, by bringing it to your home...

critters and humans are one different emotional planes... :)

(so forgiving, remember) :)

and dear nature, as to a new dog... :)

yes, you will know... and... when you DO--it will feel so good...

then:



you will have some happy tears to cry along side your sad tears... you just wait and see... :)
hugs and god bless to you... :)
dogtown

climber
Cheyenne,Wyoming
Aug 15, 2009 - 05:45am PT
http://www.newhopecattledogs.com/index.htm
Please adopt one! Please.
MisterE

Trad climber
Canoga Porn, CA
Aug 15, 2009 - 10:49am PT
Really good to talk to you last night, Doug.

I wish I could be there for the ceremonies, my friend.

Erik
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Aug 15, 2009 - 11:20am PT
Hey, Doug, I haven't really read everything here, but I don't really need to. I have my own thoughts.

Definitely try to get a dog from the pound/shelter for obvious reasons. Be careful though. I had a border collie/Aussie shepard mix (similar to your gorgeous Summit), that was apparently abused.

She was fine until strangers approached her, looked calm, but would lash out and bit you in the face!!!

She bit me a couple of times, my wife a few times, and buddies too. I had to put her down and it was a difficult decision because the dog was pretty normal as long as you didn't touch her or crowd her. Kinda like a shark, if you know anything about sharks.

Anyway, she was obviously abused in her past and I too cried when I sat by her as she was put down. I don't regret it. But it really increases my animosity towards shitcocks who abuse animals!

I swear to you the next time I see someone abuse an innocent dog, that f*#ker gets knocked out!!!

What's really f*#ked up is that dogs have an inherent trust of people, a love and trust. To abuse that love and trust and abuse an animal like that is really f*#ked up.



In short, Doug, get another dog. Somewhere out there is a dog begging to be owned and loved by you. Summit won't mind, she'd love to see you happy and caring for another pup. Summit is in good hands now.

Cheers, Doug!
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 16, 2009 - 05:29pm PT
So I was at the humane society today. I met this good looking boy named Rambo. Well... lot's of people were interested in Rambo so I didn't take him home. But if he's there in a few days I might consider.

So my question is in regards to renaming your new friend. Good idea, bad idea? Dog won't care so long as you feed him? I can't do Rambo.

http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=14394080
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Aug 16, 2009 - 05:52pm PT
So my question is in regards to renaming your new friend. Good idea, bad idea?

In a way, it's like knowing when it's time to bring a new dog into your life. You'll know when it's time for the dog, and, once the dog has been with you for a while, you'll know when it's time to settle on a name.

So don't worry about it. Don't even think about it. Eventually, you'll be sharing you life with another four-legged friend, and at some point you'll figure out each other's names.

David
Jim Wilcox

Boulder climber
Santa Barbara
Aug 16, 2009 - 06:08pm PT
Just got Marcee from Aussie Rescue last month. She was about to put down at an L.A. shelter(literally her last day) when A.R. grabbed her and brought her to S.B. They claim she's part Border Collie, part Aussie. Debatable, but we don't really care. I had put to sleep two dogs because of age/illness two years ago. Just was emotionally able to get another dog now.
EDIT:Susan, The rescue group we got Marcee from did a title search on the house!
susan peplow

climber
www.joshuatreevacationhomes.com
Aug 16, 2009 - 06:28pm PT
Shortly after Russ and I had to put down our beloved Jake I applied at New Hope Cattle Dogs rescue. Indirectly is where we found our beautiful Nora.

I'd had cattle dogs/queensland heelers before. They make for a fantastic crag dog. Smart, loyal, agile and medium sized which is key if you think you'll be spotting your dog. For me, much over 40 pounds is too much dog to spot, lift or carry (if needed).

We filled out the application thinking it may be sometime before we found the right dog for us. The application was long and involved asking a variety of questions that really make you think. Lots of what if questions like.. what if you got a divorce, what if you had to downsize your home, what if the animal was ill, etc. I kept thinking that all potential parents should have to fill our a similar questionnaire before becoming pregnant.

Part of the application asked about other pets. Sex, age, personality, breed, etc. During this question I described our sweet Cracker. How I found her in Phoenix wondering the streets, how nobody claimed her, that she's a Shar Pei mix and how much we love her.

Fast forward to the telephone interview.....

During which we discussed available dogs that needed rescue. Again the conversation turns to our Shar Pei mix Cracker at which time the interviewer tells me she normally doesn't refer people to other agencies but the Humane Society had Shar Pei/Queensland Heeler puppies. For me I couldn't ask for a better mix and off to the Humane Society I went.

Later that day I picked Nora out of 3 female puppies. Her sisters were adorable and both had strong Cattledog markings but ultimately it was Nora who one my heart.

Amazing how much we can love our pets and sad how they leave us too soon. Good luck Nature in finding your next partner. May she give you as much joy, love, peace and understanding as Summit did.

~Susan
kuan

Sport climber
CA
Aug 16, 2009 - 06:35pm PT
Summit was a great dog. She was quiet, stayed out of trouble, appropriately friendly with other dogs but held her ground if sh@t went down. I remember she had an uncanny, almost human ability to maintain order amongst the canine ranks. If a fight broke out, or another dog acted in what she deemed was an inappropriate manner, she would assertively put that dog back in its place without being overly bossy. She was the gentle hand of the law at Sushifest 200?, when One-Eyed Jack gave her a run for her money. Your next dog will have big shoes to fill, Doug.


Something that I did before getting a dog was to "practice" choosing a dog by visiting the local shelters. That way, you can get a feel for what kind of dog you want, as far as personality, size, coat, energy level, etcetera. It's pretty low commitment, however, because you aren't obligated to leave with a new dog. But then again, you never know, you just may find one that you absolutely can't leave without!

I am totally looking forward to meeting your new canine friend when the time is right.
kuan

Sport climber
CA
Aug 16, 2009 - 08:50pm PT
Oh, and about Rambo, two things:

One, dogs don't care what you call them. I got mine as a young adult and changed her name. She answered to it within a day.

Also, interesting they called him a Shepherd mix. I would have said Basenji or even Corgi mix, depending on his size. I'd also have to see him in person though to see what his personality's like.

But glad to see you are already checking out your local shelters, Doug! Another place that I forgot to mention is craigslist. People are giving up their pets all the time there! I used to click on them just to fantasize about which one I wanted to take home with me.
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 16, 2009 - 08:52pm PT
I met Rambo. He's sweet and loving and just wants to go home to a nice home. He won't last long. He's about a year old and weighs I'd say 40+ lbs.


If he is there in a few days I might consider taking him. I'll rename him....












































locker!
Sarah Funky Fresh

Trad climber
Fresno, CA
Aug 18, 2009 - 01:59pm PT
Hey, Nature, I hope your last road trip to Northern Arizona with Summit was healing. I have read all these posts from concerned people; it's really touching to see how much they care about you.

I put up a page devoted to crag dogs inspired by your girl. I hope it helps to know there is a little homage to her in the universe.

Special thanks to Happiegrrrl and Jefe for helping me -- but really helping you.

If you want to check it out, it's at time2climb.com

Hang in there!
drljefe

climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
Aug 18, 2009 - 02:13pm PT
Nature-
You know how Rosebud came into my life. I waited two years, or, it took her two years to find me. Cosmic.
Don't rush...but don't wait too long either.
My advice- stick with a girl dog.

Truly magical things happened when I spread Kaya's ashes at Granite Mountain. Go with it, feel the power.

I left something material, too, that I can visit there.

Jingy

Social climber
Flatland, Ca
Aug 18, 2009 - 03:16pm PT
Summit would want you to be happy...

You can use that as a fall back excuse if you think you might be seeing the Summit later... I'm sure though, if you do meet up with the Summy.. it will be like old times and all will immediately be forgot...
Get your new dog if that's what will make you happy.. that's what this is all about.. right?
L

climber
Wrung through the paradox, broken into wholeness
Aug 18, 2009 - 03:17pm PT
Doug,

When Buddha One died in my arms...I thought a part of me died with him. He wasn't just a tubby orange Persian who acted like a dog and contemplated life like the Dali Lama...he was my best friend, through some wonderful times and some very tough ones.

I'd found him at a cat rescue when he was a year old. He was in a cage, sleeping in his litter box, with a face that looked pissed at the world, and an attitude to match. He ignored everyone who tapped at his cage door (he was a Persian--there were lots of tappers). He ignored everyone until I walked up and softly whispered, "You look like The Buuuuuddhaaa..."

His head shot up. He stared at me. He climbed out of his litter box and stood with his genetically-smashed face smashed against the wire mesh, trying to breathe me in.

The lady organizing the adoption couldn't believe her eyes when she took him from the cage, placed him on my lap...and he promptly laid down and start purring obnoxiously. She said he hadn't been friendly to anyone the entire time he'd been on the block. A real pissed-off pussycat, she said...until me.

They'd named him Romeo (I would've been pissed off with a dumb-ass name like that, too)...so renaming him Buddha seemed only right. And he agreed. He came running to his name instantly...which is weird because most cats won't even acknowledge that you've spoken their name, much less come running to you. But not him. He was beyond cattiness.

So when he died...when that enormously loving spirit left his little feline body...the thing that got me through it was knowing I'd see him again. In some other form, from some other mother...but energy is eternal, as we both know. And we can sometimes be very good about attracting to us that which we love with all our hearts...

I think you're doing exactly what you need to do right now, Doug...you and Summit...looking to find that unconditional love again. Just keep open to whatever the universe offers you...don't second-guess things, don't try to "think" about the rightness or wrongness. Just be thankful...and remember, she's looking for you, too.
susan peplow

climber
www.joshuatreevacationhomes.com
Aug 18, 2009 - 03:19pm PT
Nature. A boy dog? One that likes to mark and pee on things? You've had a girl for a long time.... just something to think about.

Me, I love them all... but prefer the ladies.

Whoever you choose I'm sure will be a wonderful and loving companion. Wishing you good luck during the dating process.

xo,
Susan
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
Aug 18, 2009 - 03:38pm PT
Teddy is a boy, and he knows not to mark at cliffside where people are, gear is, camping is, and such. But he definitely marks on his route here in the city.

But I guess he's little, and it is different with a big dog marking.

FYI - Dogs can be trained not to mark(I have heard).
susan peplow

climber
www.joshuatreevacationhomes.com
Aug 18, 2009 - 03:45pm PT
For that matter girl dogs mark too. Both Nora and Cracker will sometimes squat on a trail to cover anothers mark.

And most trained boy dogs don't mark all over everything. But they certainly do more than girls. That damn George (dog across the street) just cant help himself. He comes over for playdates and 100% of the time unless I'm holding him he runs into our yard and pisses on my potted sage bush. Needless to say, I can no longer use that for food preperation.

~S
fluffy

Trad climber
boulder
Aug 18, 2009 - 03:56pm PT
i lost my husky of 15 years in august 06

toughest thing i've ever been through

i just couldn't bring myself to get another dog

my gf has a great dog and we live together so its kind of like having a dog (but not really the same)

a couple of months ago she took it upon herself to surprise me with another husky puppy

she knew i was ready even though i didn't

but more than that she knew that me not having a dog was cheating the doggy world out of something great too

it may never feel like the right time. but if you have a great life a dog should be by your side for it. good luck i know what you're going through.

this is Flora, she is very special and cute and i love her

allapah

climber
Aug 18, 2009 - 05:02pm PT
My family in the vortex of this thread: last Saturday, Isis the Husky, 14 years.

Many exploits- twice she spent over 4 days in the Alaska wilderness of the Seward Peninsula, came back looking fat and happy, i'm convinced she ran with the wolfpack that roams out there, her body certainly spoke wolf, B.!, at the smell of hooves her OS turned to wolf and she wouldn't be hearing a word you were saying anymore, pretty good skijor dog in her prime, Isis, woah....
the Fet

Supercaliyosemistic climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Aug 18, 2009 - 05:16pm PT
I'm a big believer in getting a new pet asap to take the edge of the sorrow.

Now, for some unknown reason, dogs are different. The universe does not seem to "provide" dogs to anyone. You have to go out and get them. I am not entirely certain why the universe automatically "provides" you with cats but not dogs.

No, both animals have a sixth sense for detecting "suckers" who will take them in.

Our current dog was running down highway 99 in Lodi at midnight with a number of near misses with speeding cars. My wife brought him home, no one claimed him, no one else would take him, so he's ours. He's our first primarily outdoor dog because he: drools, is a dirt magnet, scratches our wood floors, chases the cat, etc. But he is a super sweet heart, trapped in a big, goofy body.

Then a cat showed up on our front porch. Our existing cat doesn't play well with others, but the new cat is such a sweety he's slowly winning him over.
Matt

Trad climber
primordial soup
Aug 18, 2009 - 05:54pm PT
dood- get some chickens
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 18, 2009 - 06:10pm PT
I'm over the chicken thing. Over it....


I'm just going to keep looking and not force anything. When the right mutt comes along I'll know it. This weekend is going to be very difficult for me.

I picked up her ashes yesterday so she is home now. They made me a little doggie foot print. I spread some of her ashes in the garden last night. She's with me but just not the way I really want.
FeelioBabar

climber
Sneaking up behind you...
Aug 18, 2009 - 06:22pm PT
Nature,

I feel ya brother.

After my 15 yr old Shep/Wolf went...I was crushed. I waited and waited..a couple of years...Still haven't spread his ashes cause I don't want to let him go completely...But I really missed having one around as I have had one all my life.

Then....this little guy "found" me...."load up" i told him.


You will know my friend....you will know.

The cycle continues.


susan peplow

climber
www.joshuatreevacationhomes.com
Aug 18, 2009 - 07:35pm PT
Walk with Jake and Cracker. Jakeyboy was pretty sick at that point, not that you can tell from the photo. He loved his walks to Jake Mountain. Do you think JTNP will rename that hill for us?

Little Nora 3 days after I got her and on her way to the Pitt where she met Ms. Summit herself. Summit was one of the few adult dogs that didn't mind the puppy. Sweet summit.

Look at that crazy dark coat Nora had on her back. That's long gone now.

Nora at work with mom. Waking up from a nap, what a perfect time to chew on some webbing!

Cracker did NOT like the new puppy after Jake passed. Russ had to keep them seperated for weeks as we were afraid Cracker would chew her head off. But eventually.....

Casa de Pescado often resembles a dog park when friends are visitng. Check this motley crew. Nora, SteelMonkey's Riley, George the Rosemary marking dog from across the street and Cracker. Aren't they just precious?

We didn't anticipate getting a puppy. The idea was to adopt a dog in need. But somehow, it just worked out when we found Nora.

Wishing you the same luck Doug,
Susan
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 18, 2009 - 07:40pm PT
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Aug 18, 2009 - 07:53pm PT
How can dogs not like a 'House of FISH'????

Those are precious pups, Sooze!
susan peplow

climber
www.joshuatreevacationhomes.com
Aug 18, 2009 - 07:58pm PT
Doug. Russ caught me looking at Petfinder (on your behalf of course) the other day.

Nora look-a-likes on there and located in Tucson.

Shar Pei mixes... ohh they are sweet. Just look at that Cracker face.

~Sooze
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Aug 18, 2009 - 08:03pm PT
I never got a dog because I would have to clean up its poop when out hiking and be ever vigilant to make sure it didn't chase wildlife. That's what everyone does- don't they?
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 18, 2009 - 08:03pm PT
*Busted*!

Lol.... yeah, I've been on petfinder too. I'll probably hit up the Humane Society daily. Even just spending a little time with the dogs there warms my heart a little. Some lucky dog will come home with me.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Aug 18, 2009 - 09:05pm PT
Some lucky dog will come home with me.

Yep, there's a doggy out there who needs you badly.
ncrockclimber

Trad climber
NC
Aug 18, 2009 - 10:10pm PT
My wife and I got our crag dog in Potrero Chico. He started following us around when we got there, slept next to our tent at night, and 18 days later he was on the plane with us (in the cargo compartment) and on his way to a new life. I have no idea about his breed, but Jefe is has been the ideal companion and crag dog.

nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 18, 2009 - 10:21pm PT
Jefe is a great name for a dog....































and a bro ;-)
drljefe

climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
Aug 18, 2009 - 11:03pm PT
Damn straight!!!

old dog

new dog

Life just seemed complete again when Rosebud showed up.
I wonder if she went on humanfinder.com?

Stoked for the next chapter, nature.
Who said it?....
"Life is just a series of dogs."
pip the dog

Mountain climber
planet dogboy
Aug 18, 2009 - 11:04pm PT
nature,

how did you first meet Summit?


^,,^
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Aug 18, 2009 - 11:17pm PT
jefe, George Carlin I think first brought up the phrase that, "Life is a series of dogs".

Of course he did the bit in a satirical manner, but meant it. It is true though, more so for dog-lovers of course.

Nice dogs you've had too! You gotta be a dog-person to understand it. A bit different than other folks like cat-people.

But it's all good. There's a person for every critter. Look at frikkin' CHaz, he's got a burro, goats, AND dogs...WTF is he anyway???? Flyin' kites?
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 18, 2009 - 11:20pm PT
I was living in Portland Oregon with my girlfriend (at the time). We hit a bit of a rough spot to the point of difference of opinion. It upset her so much she didn't go to work one day. A friend hung out with her while I was at work. They were out driving around and saw a sign for puppies - $10 (to get the mama fixed). Tami visited, decided right there that I needed more responsibility in my life live (talk about bold!). Uh... she was probably right.

So I came home from work and she had this odd look on her face. I knew something was up. the little puppy was in a corner. If I took one step to the right she did too - screening the puppy. "I got you something". And then she stepped out of the way. She was six weeks old and so cute. It was love at first sight.

A friend who was visiting at one point noted "her tail looks like a snow-capped summit".

I miss her...
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Aug 18, 2009 - 11:25pm PT
Awwwww... I bet she was a supercute puppy. Photos welcome, if it wouldn't arouse sad memories.
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 18, 2009 - 11:32pm PT
I don't have any photos of here early. That was 11+ years ago. Pretty much before digital cameras existed. IT sucks. That part kills me.

the memories of her are happy ones. The last 8 days have been the saddest and most painful of my life.
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 18, 2009 - 11:44pm PT

in JTree with Scarpa...




bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Aug 18, 2009 - 11:49pm PT
Buck up, Doug, it sucks ass that our friends don't live as long as us. You need another 'buddy', dude. You are a great friend of pups, get another and stop feeling guilty that Summit would be offended by this. She'd really like it I think!

When you find the right pup, don't hesistate. It's hard to find a 'bad' pup.

F*#kin-a I love dogs, a unique trust and love rare in other species.

Good luck, dude! You'll find another friend. Just try not to feel like it lessens your attachment to Summit. All pups are unique and they're only allowed a limited time in our lives.

Life is a series of dogs. Each one is unique, yet always a buddy.

What kicks ass is that we get to hang with them all in the end.

Good luck, dude!
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 18, 2009 - 11:49pm PT
skywalker

climber
Aug 18, 2009 - 11:50pm PT
Nature,

Sorry to hear about the loss. Lost my dog of 14 wonderful years this past Christmas. You will know when its right as others have said and what seems right but I wanted to share this story.

Around X-mas time T.J. got sick all of a sudden aside from some minor symptoms I couldn't understand. We had to cancel plans for family trips and stayed at home with her. My wife was pregnant and one night we wrote down a name each for our expecting daughter. I wrote Mia she wrote Maya. Cool same page! A week later we had to take T.J. to the vet. I came out to the waiting room a complete mess, hardest thing I had to do. I saw a giant shaggy dog across the room and immediately knelt down and gave it a BIG doggy hug. I looked up at the owner and asked what the dogs name was and she said Maya. I said "far out".

We now have a healthy 3 month old daughter named Maya.

Best to you...
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 18, 2009 - 11:52pm PT
naw... I know. Summit wouldn't mind (well, she would have if she was still around). She loved me dearly. When I was in the Vampire Spires for five weeks she knew I was about to come home. She could sense it. I was remembering today walking in the front door and she greeted me. She looked at me, sniffed, me, looked puzzled... and then realized... I was home.

I'll find another friend. I'm open to that. When the right one comes along I'll know it....
drljefe

climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
Aug 19, 2009 - 12:11am PT
My criteria for my new dog was black and female, that's it.
Never thought I'd end up with a 1/8th scale version!
But yes, be open, even to the small ones- they have their advantages...

http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-garage-cougar,0,224308.story
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Aug 19, 2009 - 12:21am PT
Thanks, Doug - those are some nice pictures, and stories.
Pennsylenvy

Gym climber
A dingy corner in your refrigerator
Aug 19, 2009 - 12:50am PT
Petfinder????

you mean it's possible that you could find another SNooK?





Snook has looked at a squirrel three feet away from him and then turned his attention away (WOW!)...he has NO desire to chase animals...elk, deer, etc......

He follows me like a shadow (but runs when I try to pet him).

He gets in the truck in a heartbeat.

I have been recently able to leave the back gate open and he chooses to stay in his 'Lair'.

Like a cat, I can leave him alone for a few days with food and water ( I don't but could ) and he's happy.

He does not mark territory or start fights (he's pretty good at holding his ground).

Donini, I guess your right I have to pick up his sh#t in high impacted areas ( that's why I love climbing in Arizona).


He does not bark at stupid sh#t AT ALL but will bark and 'look' intimidating if something is out of place (key ..I like big well adapted male dogs in this scenario).

Don't diss a good male dog Jefe!

guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
Aug 19, 2009 - 12:51am PT
Hey Nature, If these two come knockin', I suggest you sneak out the back door.

nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2009 - 12:55am PT
Tim can correct or add to this as he feels necessary.


Snook wasn't a big fan of Tim (P.Envy) at first. He wouldn't let him get near him. I might have been the first one he warmed up to. I think the reason for that was Summit. Snook is a handsome and smart animal. I'd get Summit to stay close to me, pet her, love on her, etc. Snook saw that. I'm certain that is what made him start to trust me. At first Snook would run away from everyone when PE tried to get close. Then he'd take cover in my corner. I could see that and tried to work it to PE's advantage.

I remember that night playing poker. Snook ran over to me and I started petting him. PE just looked at me/him in total disbelief and said "my dog, doug, what the?".

We knew Snook would come around. He did. He's a great dog.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Aug 19, 2009 - 01:01am PT
drljefe:
Never thought I'd end up with a 1/8th scale version!

I didn't either but we've got one now that just a minute ago jumped on the couch and licked my ear. I'm easy.
rwedgee

Ice climber
canyon country,CA
Aug 19, 2009 - 01:05am PT
Definintely go to a rescue. Remember though that the dogs are not what you see; they've been locked in a crate or small run for the last 5 days so when they get out, which is usually on the weekend, they're spastic to say the least. You don't see the true dog for a few days.
Any rescue wil "foster" dogs. You can adopt and check them out for a while and see if they are compatable.
I do volunteer work for Boxer Rescue Los Angeles
http://www.boxer-rescue-la.com
from plumbing, electrical, air conditioning, stucco, feeding, cleaning, walking, training, etc. Endless things need to be done. Of course one of the dogs will eventually "touch" you. So now I foster Cookie, a deaf white boxer(looks like a pit bull but is pure boxer. Funnest dog ever, but I can bring her back and get another one any time(easier said than done). It helps her adjust so she will get adopted. That way the dog is "turn key" when the adopt it, little or no breaking in period.
Call any rescue, tell them what you're looking for and their screeners will match you with a dog that fits. With the housing crash there's a OTI(owner turn in) crisis unseen before. All the shelters are full and putting down quickly. We've been at capacity(80 dogs) for over 18 months and have placed from 6-23 dogs(average ~8 a week) and are full again by Monday night. We are boarding additional dogs 9 at vets and other kennels.
So please go by a rescue and walk a few dogs, drop off some food, blankets, bisquits, leashes, or time. You will be rewarded by the smiling happy dogs!!


http://s21.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/rwedgy/beach037.flv&fs=1&os=1&ap=1

http://s21.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/rwedgy/cookster.flv&fs=1&os=1&ap=1
Pennsylenvy

Gym climber
A dingy corner in your refrigerator
Aug 19, 2009 - 01:13am PT
Chiloe,

had a funny thing happen the other day. As stated, my pup Snook is a little 'to himself'. That makes it easy to go to work and come home and he doesn't care too much that your gone aka ..no attention deficit order syndrome at all.

Well I was gone extra long the other day...I felt bad. I gave Snook kibble , steak fat cuts AND wet dog food to try to make his life good.

After he got done eating his supper in the other room while I was on the computer, he came up to me and gave me a big wet nose nudge, and a lick as to say thank you (MAYBE ..i missed you good to have you back). It's interesting because for a dog who seems so to himself, in a way he might very well be the most loyal one I've ever encountered. In the end I love my dog and all his curiousities. I wold also like to hoist a cheers to all the people who take good care of their pets and treat them so well. We all get it back x ten in the end:)

Edit Rwedgee

Very nice
looking pup. THX for what you do. My ex (whom is great) put the word in my ear after my old dog died, that I should try to adopt a dog who NEEDED(aka an old decrepit dog) a home. That seemed like a task...one I was intimidated thinking about. Snook my dog, was bascially not adoptable because of fear issues with people. He is from Kayenta, AZ on the reservation. He was 4 months old so I kind of could still get a 'puppy' but take on a project. I really admired my ex's viewpoint of possibly adopting and old dog from the pound because no one wanted them. I guess Snook was the middle ground for me. He had been returned to our local 'Second Chance (no kill!) centerhttp://www.secondchancecenter.org/ before I adopted him .

I can say there it is a great great feeling to see a dog come so far, when given a chance. Maybe I need to adopt a kid....
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2009 - 01:17am PT
cheers bro....
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Aug 19, 2009 - 01:18am PT
Just so we don't forget our other friends.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Aug 19, 2009 - 11:37am PT
Now that I'm back home again I can take more dog pictures and post them on SuperTopo. So far the
non-doglovers on ST aren't complaining about these OT threads as much as they have a right to. :-)
drljefe

climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
Aug 19, 2009 - 11:57am PT
PE/Tim- I would never diss a male dog, and I would never diss Snook. Just a thought that Doug's used to a female dog and maybe he should stick with a girl.
Snook is cool! I like interesting dogs, ones that make you wonder what their past was all about. When those ones "come around" they are often the finest companions.
Remember, I deemed him "The Sentinel" at Cochise!
Good on ya Tim, Nature, and everyone that truly cares.
Dogs rule.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Aug 19, 2009 - 12:14pm PT
This is Tessie, who lives right across the street. She's the size of small horse, full of energy, and one of the gentlest dogs I've ever met (although she might accidentally knock you over and crush you).

nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2009 - 03:35pm PT
http://gallery.me.com/goclimbing/100009/Cute
drljefe

climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
Aug 19, 2009 - 03:42pm PT
so? is this the new friend?
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2009 - 04:07pm PT
She's on hold 
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2009 - 04:11pm PT
She's not on hold

she needs a name
drljefe

climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
Aug 19, 2009 - 04:23pm PT
Woooooooohoooooooooo!
atchafalaya

climber
Babylon
Aug 19, 2009 - 04:30pm PT
So cool. Cute pup...
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
Aug 19, 2009 - 04:36pm PT
Did I read correctly????


She sure IS cute!


How about Tippy or Tipsy?(cause the tip of her snout is dark).
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Aug 19, 2009 - 04:39pm PT
There's a difference between a new beast and a noob beast.

Mazel tov Doug.
susan peplow

climber
www.joshuatreevacationhomes.com
Aug 19, 2009 - 04:58pm PT
What's the pedigree? She's beautiful with that dark muzzle.

~Sooze

Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Aug 19, 2009 - 05:05pm PT
species: canis climberensis
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Aug 19, 2009 - 05:09pm PT
Congrats, Doug!
guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
Aug 19, 2009 - 05:14pm PT
Ghost

Tessie is most likely a Bernese Mountain Dog. Big and gentle is the word. Here is a photo of our wonderful dog, Kipper. He is an English Shepard and the Romans raised them to herd cattle. Much smaller than the Bernese but larger and more gentle than an Aussie. Also known as a Farm Collie in the east.

nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2009 - 05:15pm PT
They say mom was a shelty. Don't see much of that. We guess some lab, shepherd and who knows what else.

I hope she does have some shelty. They are smart and loyal. some lab would be nice too because the silly labness is great.

I get her tomorrow after she gets fixed.

we head to winslow to climb saturday where she promptly gets shoved into a haul bag (Fish Atom Smasher, of course) so I can rap with her into the canyon.


I'm sad though... she's not here and I'm still missing my girl so dearly. But Summit would approve. She always made me happy and wants me to be. So there's one more lucky dog in this world.

drljefe

climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
Aug 19, 2009 - 05:18pm PT
"SUNSHINE"
susan peplow

climber
www.joshuatreevacationhomes.com
Aug 19, 2009 - 05:20pm PT
They claim that dog & childrens names should be single syllable so it's easy to call their name. "Nora Come" vs. "Crack-ER Come"

A few that come to mind (don't necessarily apply to statement above).

Flora
Ginger (like her color)
Sickle
Wonder
Granite

Post pics!

edit: Nice pics. How about Shelty? That way no matter what she's Shelty?

Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Aug 19, 2009 - 05:22pm PT
Nora is two syllables, isn't it? :-)
drljefe

climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
Aug 19, 2009 - 05:23pm PT
I always heard that two syllables was optimum.
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2009 - 05:28pm PT
one or two syllables but there needs to be hard consonant in there for emphasis.

Kali
Shri
Lela
L

climber
Wrung through the paradox, broken into wholeness
Aug 19, 2009 - 05:38pm PT
Kali!

Beautiful name, beautiful spirit, beautiful girl...


Congrats Doug--She found you!
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
Aug 19, 2009 - 05:41pm PT
Just like Teddy, she's a purebred WONDERHOUND!

(You have to wonder what breed she is!)
drljefe

climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
Aug 19, 2009 - 05:42pm PT
"SUMMER" ?
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2009 - 05:44pm PT
those are a lot like Summit but they are missing the hard consonant syllable that I feel is important.
RS

Social climber
Aug 19, 2009 - 05:47pm PT
Doug,

She's precious. But do you think she'll be ready for an outing by Saturday if she's getting fixed tomorrow? My girl was down a few days after her surgery.

Best,
gm
rectorsquid

climber
Lake Tahoe
Aug 19, 2009 - 05:49pm PT
Pay attention to the breed of dog you get. We have this male mutt who is a mix of Aussie Sheppard, Dalmatian, and other stuff. he is a little aggressive but mostly mellow. He learned, in about two days, to ring a bell whenever he needs to go out and pee.

Then recently, we get this smaller dog who is a real cute female that looks a bit like a Jack Russel Terrier. There is another similar breed called a Harrier that might also be her. It's hard to tell be cause she's bigger and taller than a Jack Russell and of course she's a mutt too. She's such a sweet dog but she needs a lot of attention and needs to run a lot. Without the exercise, she's full of pent-up energy and is jumpy and a pest. She can't quite learn to poo outside but she does know how to throw a tennis ball a few feet into my lap when she wants to play.

So keep in mind what kind of attitude you don't want in your dog and make sure to avoid breeds that might not act the way you want.

Good luck on the dog hunt.

Dave
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Aug 19, 2009 - 05:50pm PT
Toe Jam
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2009 - 05:56pm PT
I talked to the folks at the Humane Society about the outing for the weekend and they felt she'd be fine. I'll certainly keep the surgery in mind and probably carry her most of the way. And I have to keep her out of the water. But it's kinda a must do. I really need the closure of spreading some of Summit's ashes at Winslow and this is about the only chance I get for a while.

But if come friday she really isn't ready I can always abort. We don't have to go into the canyon.

Good deal on the smarts category. When I was playing with her I watched her watch someone walked by. She moved her eyes and not her head. That's a smart dog.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Aug 19, 2009 - 05:58pm PT
I dunno about that eye moving thing Doug.


Better see if her lips move when she reads.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Aug 19, 2009 - 05:59pm PT
Doug, best wishes for many years of furry friendship.

(and to Guido and eKat: yes, Tess is a Bernese Mountain Dog, and yes she's a beauty. Also happy and well loved. Must weigh about 200 pounds though)
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2009 - 05:59pm PT
Cirque?


Papajoto had a dog called Drumlin.



Ron: LMAO!!1166
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Aug 19, 2009 - 06:01pm PT
Cirque Of The Bowzers
RS

Social climber
Aug 19, 2009 - 06:01pm PT
Better see if her lips move when she reads.

Thanks, Ron. You've made my day. Doesn't take much to entertain me obviously.
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2009 - 06:03pm PT
"Cold Beer"


wait wait....














I got it!!!!











































Piton Ron!

















or



















Bolt
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Aug 19, 2009 - 06:07pm PT
Hard consonants?



Rap Bolt!
RS

Social climber
Aug 19, 2009 - 06:09pm PT
Daisy

Hard consonants start each syllable.
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Aug 19, 2009 - 06:10pm PT
Rainbow.

I think the "b" counts as a hard consonant.
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2009 - 06:14pm PT
Hamachi


Sashimi



Uni







Murigai




























Sake!
RS

Social climber
Aug 19, 2009 - 06:17pm PT
Hibachi




Or





Weber
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2009 - 06:20pm PT
Fixed! (as in lines are fixed)



Haul Bag





Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Aug 19, 2009 - 06:25pm PT
Oh well, at least we're getting away from the "dogs as food" names. Imagine a sushi chef with a dog named "Sashimi". :-)
zip

Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
Aug 20, 2009 - 08:37am PT
Doug,

Congrats on the new edition to your family.

Good luck on your name search.

Here are a couple:

Jingus

Mankey

Sketchy

Heimlich

Juju

Chico

Vinnie

Brawda

Oscar

Widgit

and i never met a dog named Zip that i didn't like.


mark miller

Social climber
Reno
Aug 20, 2009 - 10:56am PT
Excellent Doug, remember she's just a puppy and has a lot to learn (or teach you) before she gets up to "speed".Good luck and patience.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Aug 20, 2009 - 11:45am PT
I'd call it "Rajmit", until it smartens up.
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2009 - 11:47am PT
oh my god oh my god... I've got the PERFECT name


















It'll be called....













































locker
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Aug 20, 2009 - 11:54am PT
Someone get SPCA on the phone. I've uncovered a case of animal abuse.
L

climber
Wrung through the paradox, broken into wholeness
Aug 20, 2009 - 12:06pm PT
OMG...Chaz...that was funny.






Now go apologize to Locker immediately! ;-)
zip

Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
Aug 20, 2009 - 12:33pm PT
That's an insult to the dog, cuz he is better looking than Locker.
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
Aug 20, 2009 - 02:11pm PT
Locker's got to do a self/pup morph photo now.....


How about...."Flower?" Like from Bambi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_baARWvmPd4
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Aug 20, 2009 - 03:08pm PT
Ma Barker.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma_Barker
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2009 - 08:45pm PT
just got it home. Might have to name it "cry baby" ;-)
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Aug 20, 2009 - 08:58pm PT
Ahhhh, that's cute, Doug. He's in a new place. Stay up with him until he crashes. Maybe sleep on the floor with him.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Aug 20, 2009 - 09:11pm PT
Took me almost two years to even think about getting another dog after I lost Nala...but I need a friend to hang with...here she is.

We get her on 9/05/09

bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Aug 20, 2009 - 09:14pm PT
That's awesome, Bob, that pup is cute!
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