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TB
climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 6, 2009 - 02:22am PT
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Dude I'm soo sad right now my dad is dead he fell of of the dike wall. I knew it was a bad idea to go soloing today. I knew it.
JB 09 I LOVE YOU DAD.....
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Sherri
climber
WA
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There's a lot of love for you and your dad here, right now and always. I'm so sorry.
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Redwreck
Social climber
Echo Parque, Los Angeles, CA
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I'm very sorry for your loss.
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yosguns
climber
San Francisco, CA
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Deeply sorry for your loss. You have the support of an entire community. Many thoughts and prayers will be sent out for you, family, and friends.
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dogtown
climber
Cheyenne,Wyoming
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So,so sorry little dude. Your Dad is a Great man. We all will miss him so.
Bruce.
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Shack
Big Wall climber
Reno NV
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Too sad for words.
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graham
Social climber
Ventura, California
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Being your Dad's son I know you will be strong Tyrus
If you need anything call.
Mike
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there TB... say, i just now heard/saw this...
may the good lord bless and keep you through this very sad time...
there just is no more words for you loss right now...
my deep condolences...
edit: dear TB... i did not realize how young you are...
many hugs to you, and i will back you up with prayers
so you'll have one more bit of back-up through this hard time...
there is a mighty strong family-throng here for you... they will come near for you, any time you need them...
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Fletcher
Trad climber
the end of the world as we know it, & I feel fine.
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I am so sorry Tyrus... your Dad was a giant. Peace, prayers and blessings to you.
Eric
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nita
climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
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Tyrus, I don't know what to say .......I am so-so sorry for your loss, John will be missed.
Sending you *Peace and Love*......nita.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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A lot of hearts are in your corner tonight Bro.
I have no doubts he would have full faith you will carry on in a proud way
Peace
Karl
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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This kinda busts me up a little seeing you post here like this with such class; just like your dad. Peace and live Upfull little brother.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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I can't find words to express my grief. You have the prayers of my family and me.
John Eleazarian
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apogee
climber
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Your father is a great man, who inspired all who knew him. Be proud, and know that he loves you.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Tyrus,
Words are hard to come by at a time like this, but there are many here who are with you.
So many friends here, the ones that knew your dad and the ones that didn't. But we are all one tribe, and your dad was one of it's greatest warriors.
You can find much of the support you'll need right here.
Try to be strong man, like your dad.
Bruce Birchell
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Kenji
Social climber
Now in the OC
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Tyrus, I don't know you but I knew your Dad. I had hoped he and I (and a gaggle of other climber/musician types)could play some music together at this summer OR show.
I have an 11 yr old son. I think every day about what he would do if/when my time comes. And I'm not nearly the climber your Dad was, but I hope that when my time comes, I will depart honorably, and my childrens lives will somehow be richer for having me in it. I have faith that John felt similarly, and that You will move forward in your life with pride and strength for having him as part of you.
None of us know when our time is. Your dad lived an adventurous life, a life that transformed fear into strength when facing the unknown. That is a power for us to all aspire to.
My deepest respect to you and your remaining family.
Kenji Haroutunian
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Jobee
Social climber
El Portal
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My heart is with you Tyrus.
I am so very sorry.
I am so very sad as well.
I am sending you strength, peace, and wisdom.
From my heart to yours.
May strong arms surround you tonight.
Jo Whitford
El Portal Ca.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Tyrus,
I've posted this too many times this year, but it's my way of connecting our loss and our love of the mountains. They're kind of inseparable, and now I make this small offering to you too.
Peace.
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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Tyrus, this is such a tough time for you. Your Dad is a great man. You will need support. You will have a lot of support from your Dad's close family and friends, but I will email my phone number to you. Call if you need anything. Or call if you just need to talk to another man who respected your Dad so highly. Please don't hesitate to let the climber tribe help you through this.
You love your Dad. He loves you. And we love you, too.
-Jeff Lowe
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jbar
Social climber
urasymptote
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Totally stole this pic from the Acopa site.
I hope you don't mind. I was looking at the shoes when I saw it and thought. Dude! Who puts pictures of their kid skating on a climbing shoe site? He was obviously VERY proud of you.
Stay strong and honor him by trying to grow into the man you know he would want you to be.
Jeremy
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TB
climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 6, 2009 - 02:51am PT
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THANKS GUYS
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Tyrus, your Dad was a special man. He wasn't perfect, no human is, but Dude, He Loved You Big Time !!!
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monolith
climber
Berkeley, CA
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Please know that there are many who are deeply saddened by your loss and wish the best for you.
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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He has you to carry out his legacy of true character: as a man, mentor, and father.
I feel for you brother.
be well
Mucci
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
Lake Oswego, Oregon
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Tyrus,
I just spent time with your dad in Colorado. I arranged the shows he did out there. As we drove from Denver to Durango he spoke of you constantly. I feel like I know you despite never meeting you. As a father of five kids I know the love he feels for you. He is watching you and he is proud.
With all my love and kind thoughts,
Simon
Edit... (I am bawlin' now..) Your dad sent me this on July 4. No reason other than to share with me how proud he was to be your father.
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Mick Ryan
Trad climber
Kendal, English Lake District
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Much love from here in England Tyrus.
Mick Ryan
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Blitzo
Social climber
Earth
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Our hearts are with you, Tyrus!
Your dad was an awesome man!
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Tyrus,
I have known your father since 1982 or so. We weren't really close friends as we each had our own circles of climbing partners that we palled around with. Still, we ran into each other many times over the years and I had the greatest respect for him. If there is anything I can do for you, please let me know.
Curt
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Tyrus, can't sleep tonight, up thinking about you, your Dad and family. Check yer email bro! Hope you can get some rest! Your Dad is a great man like you said and is missed.
Ron
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TB
climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 6, 2009 - 03:11am PT
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i can't sleep either
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Tyrus, all of us wish we could be with you in Mammoth tonight. We'll do our best here.
Ten years ago, your dad came to Vancouver in February to do a show, his first for some time. I spent a few days with him, showing him around and keeping him company. He and Werner and I played chess quite a lot in Camp 4 in the mid 1970s, though we eventually lost contact. So it was good to renew that. Anyway, you were very young then, and were sick. Your father called home several times a day to check on how you were doing, and say hello. And talked about you a lot.
Over the last few years, your father and I sometimes exchanged notes, and saw each other at the trade show and things. (I met you at the Yosemite FaceLift in 2007.) He always talked about you and what you were doing.
When your dad was hurt a few years ago, I sent a note saying that it was my big chance to be his ropegun - he thought that was pretty good.
If there's anything at all we can do, just ask.
Anders
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Tyrus, just emailed you. Meant from the heart. Tell your family I'm ready in an instant to take on all the details that one is not able to deal with when you lose the one you love. Serious....been there. Lynne
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NikDF
Trad climber
Bay area, CA
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I am so sorry for your loss. I never met your dad, but his climbs, character, and spirit permeated the climbing community and will continue to do so for generations. Know that if you need anything, the climbing community will be here for you.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Tyrus,
Your dad will always be with you and you with him. We are connected to loved ones through time and space. He is respected and loved by all of us here. And yes, he is a great man.
My prayers and sympathy to you and your family. Be with and talk to your family and friends. No matter what, make your dad proud.
Glenn
(aka Klimmer)
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Hey TB, tough night of the soul tonight. Were you born in Mammoth? I lived there for a while in 93-95 era. I cooked your dad's breakfast at O'Kelley and Dunn, that used to be next to Von's.It was when I lived in Mammoth when my older brother killed himself and then a month later my dad died of major grief related heart failure. Needless to say, no matter how beautiful Mammoth was, I had to get the hell out of there. There were other reasons, of course, but I had to bail. I ended up in Seattle after going to Alaska and now I'm better. If you ever need some connections in Seattle, there is an already pre-established network of co-conspirators just waiting for something cool to do.
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holiday wally
Social climber
chamonix mammoth lakes
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Yo TB.
beyond words. JB.
can't even write anything.
you are in my thoughts.
nathan wallace
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TB
climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 6, 2009 - 03:36am PT
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I appreciate all of the kind words and offers to help me.
If I need help I know who to call.
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Stephanie Bussell
Sport climber
Bishop Ca
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Tyrus, I'm so sorry for your loss, Just know you are not alone. Your DAD will be missed by many and LIVE on in the memories of everyone that was close to him. Stay Strong yet ask for help when you need it. Love, Stephanie
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Tyrus buddy I'm so sorry. Good luck with everything. You have a big community behind you and grieving with you.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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TB-
I'm just posting because I just flipped on the computer after getting home from the weekend and learned about what happened. I also saw that you are up and posting.
I never met your dad, but had occasional exchanges with him here. In fact, the first time I ever posted was because your dad asked a question about a climbing area in South America that I had happened to have visited. I was so excited to have an exchange with such an amazing icon of rock climbing!!!
I lost my father at a relatively young age. I know how hard it is and wish you the best.
Tim
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Tyrus your dad was indeed, a great man. I first met him decades ago, and and have interacted with him at odd times ever since. I was lucky enough to climb with him last spring, as funny and genuine a person as they come, entirely aside from being the great climber that he was.
We're all there for you, sending the most sincere vibes.
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holiday wally
Social climber
chamonix mammoth lakes
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i want to listen to music. sax. i want to break things.
i am in france and will have my mom stop by if you are in mammoth. and i will get in touch when i figure out how.
TB....................................too early for the great man. i have lost one of my best friends. i will never forget him.
JB. JB. JB.
Lot's of love.
nathan wallace
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Lennox
climber
just southwest of the center of the universe
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I am stunned; numb.
I started climbing 25 years ago. I have lost so many acquaintances, close friends and partners over the years. Some ran in pain and indignation towards their deaths, some were struck down inexplicably while at peace with themselves and the world, and some perished while risking all to run towards transcendent moments of joy.
From my earliest days of climbing, your father was a hero and inspiration to me. I met him a few times in Yosemite and the Eastside, but it was reading his posts here on ST that helped me to know a little something of the real John Bachar, and I respect and admire him more than ever.
Scott Lennox
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Loomis
climber
*_*
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Tyrus, I am so sorry for your loss, your dad inspired me more than words can ever convey, Peace, Scott
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TB
climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 6, 2009 - 04:40am PT
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i miss him :(
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holiday wally
Social climber
chamonix mammoth lakes
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can you say f*#k on the internet.
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Daphne
Trad climber
Mill Valley, CA
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Tyrus, Sending you light for the dark days ahead. You aren't alone. We will be here for you.
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immanti
climber
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Hey Tyrus. I'm still in shock and probably shouldn't post right now... but there's no way I can sleep either.
John was a gift to this world, not just as a climber but as a person. He was a deeply honest, generous and sensitive man. I was honored to be his partner but I was blessed to be his friend.
My thoughts and prayers are with you, Paola, Val and your family, big hugs to you all. We'll talk again soon.
Dario
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aldude
climber
Monument Manor
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Tyrus .... can't sleep either. We've lost a Titan - super sad.
I'm here for you dude...K?
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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immanti, well said , 100% agree. lrl
sleep, guess not......
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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My condolences to you TB. This was terrible news to wake up to.
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pip the dog
Mountain climber
planet dogboy
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Tyrus,
the man who raised me (my grandfather) died 22 years ago. he was a remarkable soul, like your dad.
and he is still with me, many times, every day. i hear his voice (not literally, but quite clearly in my soul). i hear his wisdom. he remains as much a part of me now as he was back when i could sit with him, laugh with him, talk with him. there is so much of him in me that i can and do still turn to him when i need advice i can trust. i spent so much time with him, and he gave me so much, that he remains a huge part of me.
your loss is a terrible and tragic one. my heart and thoughts are with you. things won't be the same. you have lost the immediacy of those who are with us. jeff (among many others) gave you great advice. reach out to those who love you and love your dad. think of how your dad reached out so many times to those dealing with the worst life throws at us. think of how he also connected with those he trusted when life threw him truly rough sh!t.
follow your dad in this. for it is great advice, from a great man. words are easy to give. but doing the actual work of following up and reaching out isn't easy. but your dad was there for people in need, he did the work behind his words for so many people. and he also did the work to connect with those dear to him when he was in need. you know this, you witnessed it. it works. i urge you to do the same.
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i am absolutely certain that your dad will be with you for the rest of your days. it takes time to hear the voice and sense the presence of those dearest to us after they are no longer physicallly with us. but with those we truly love, it does come -- always. and when it does it grows forever stronger.
much of the work of getting there you must do yourself -- but you never, _ever_, have to do that work alone. i am certain your dad would tell you that, for that is what he did for so many.
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you are much in my thoughts. i wish you peace and solace. it will come. may it come soon.
^,,^ (michael)
PM me if i can be if any help. i'll send my cell number, you can call me anytime 24/7. someday perhaps i can tell you the "Pride Of Sweden/Lippy The Insane Aussie/Oopsie The Truck Rolled Off the Cliff/The French Hairdoos In Lycra Insist They Saw The Flying Dog" story that your dad witnessed (Lippy and I were caught in it) -- and then, in a heartbeat, he came up with a punchline so perfect that everyone who's ever heard the tale since collapses with laughter. the genius was in his punchline. in a heartbeat he saw the common thread that ran throughout that seemingly random circus . magic stuff, from a magic man.
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kev
climber
CA
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Tyrus,
I'm so sorry for your loss. Although I can't imagine how hard this is for you, I want to give you my condolences. This suck for the climbing community, but it has to be unimaginable worse for you. I wish I could say more. If there's anything any of us can do don't hesitate to email me or others here. I met JB once on the east side and he was just a chill, great person. Again I wish I could say more - this is so sad.
kev
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tarek
climber
berkeley
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Tyrus,
As you know, for a good many years your dad defined the limits of what the mind could do with a rock climb. His expansion of what was mentally possible in climbing inspired thousands upon thousands of people (climbers) in many challenging aspects of their lives far from the cliffs.
These many thousands are going to be out there mourning your dad with you.
Condolences,
Tarek
RIP JB
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TB
climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 6, 2009 - 07:07am PT
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I just can't rest
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cowpoke
climber
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TB,
I'm so sorry. I am one of the very, very many who count your father as a hero. I'm praying that you find some bit of peace through this forum and those reaching out to you.
Eric Dearing
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Michael Kennedy
Social climber
Carbondale, Colorado
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Tyrus,
I've known your dad for many years. Although we never spent a lot of time together I've always had the greatest respect for John, not only as a climber but as the really wonderful person he was. Even in my best days I could never come within miles of matching him as a climber but that didn't matter.
One thing we did have in common was fatherhood. He always spoke so highly of you and was eager to share his experiences and insights with a fellow dad. That to me was such a special dimension of our friendship.
Like so many others, I'm really at a loss for words. Just know that many of us have been touched and inspired by your dad and are sending all the love and support in the world your way.
Michael Kennedy
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holiday wally
Social climber
chamonix mammoth lakes
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Yo TB,
almost 2:00 in the afternoon here.
have gone from the funk to speed metal.
get some sleep.
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Marci Reardon
Trad climber
California
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I am so sorry for your loss Tyrus. My thoughts are with you.
Marci
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Prod
Trad climber
A place w/o Avitars apparently
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Hey TB,
I feel for you.
Take care.
PRod.
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MisterE
Trad climber
One Step Beyond!
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TB,
My heart goes out to you.
Erik Wolfe
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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TB, your Dad will always be remembered as someone who, by his talent and force of will,
broke through to higher levels that most of us could barely imagine.
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Peips
Sport climber
Ketchum Idaho
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Remember the Joy - Remember in Laughter - How many ways can we say thank you to a man who changed so many of our lives for the better...Rock ON!
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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I's so sorry, Tyrus. Never met your dad in real life, but just here on the internet. Whenever he made mention of you, it was crystal clear that he loved you deeply, had total respect for you and was so proud of you.
It just doesn't seem fair, when a young man has to loses his dad so early, as you have.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Be strong;...be proud, hang tough;......I lost my mom as an adult;....it was very very tough, but we got through it. Just think about what your dad would want you to do and be;....and embrance all the people who love and care for you. I saw your dad often when he lived in Joshua Tree.......we will all miss him dearly;.....he is at total peace now;....it's everyone else that is hurting so........be strong.
Todd Gordon Joshua Tree
(photo, g. epperson)
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Gunkie
climber
East Coast US
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TB, your dad was a hero of mine.
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
way, WAY out there....(OMG)
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Exactly. He's the real deal, that one.
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Lacey
Social climber
Boise, Idaho
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Tyrus, I am so sorry for the tragic loss of your father. Stay strong.....You have tons of love and support around you.Hang in there......
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Flanders!
Trad climber
June Lake, CA
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Tyrus,
Your dad was one of the great ones of our times, pursing excellence and holding fast to his convictions like few do. I have good memories from the many encounters
in Tuolumne, the Gorge or Clark Canyon. And like everyone else was in awe as I
watched the man move across the rock like no other, truly amazing to see!
As you can see there are a great multitude who knew and admired your dad, and this
"family" here will stand with you to help in coming days.
There is only One who knows the number of our days, and here again we are reminded
that we ought to make the most of the days given to us, love well, forgive quickly, charish our relationships while we can.
Doug Nidever
June Lake, CA
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TKingsbury
Trad climber
MT
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My sincere condolences
TK
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John Mac
Trad climber
Littleton, CO
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Tyrus,
I'm so sorry for your loss. I'm speechless.
Your father was an amazing man and will not be forgotten.
Deepest sympathy and condolences.
John
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Tyrus
I wish I knew the words to comfort you now.
And I just can't find them.
I woke last night thinking about your father.
I was so fortunate to have seen him in Denver last
week. Be strong. We all have such a hole in
our hearts right now.
I wish you the very best.
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Katie_I
Mountain climber
Wyoming
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I'm so sorry to hear about this--still in shock. Your dad was indeed a great man. All my prayers for you.
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martygarrison
Trad climber
The Great North these days......
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Tyrus, we are all right beside you!
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville
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Your father was a giant.
He had extreme passion that is rarely seen in men today.
He will be missed by many.
Your father was a man of courage and strength.
-Wayne Burnes
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Tyrus ~
Your father was great. But not because of his climbing ability as much as because of the totality of his love for you. Though I spent little time with John, I was blown away by how his eyes sparkled when he spoke of you. And I was touched by how it was clear that you are the most important thing to him. I hope you never forget these amazing gifts.
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FeelioBabar
climber
Sneaking up behind you...
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Hey Tyrus.
tough times...I know...but hang in there brother.
You're descended from greatness.
know this.
fb
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Beatrix Kiddo
Mountain climber
Littleton
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There must be really good climbing on the other side with all of these amazing climbers leaving. I'm so sorry for your loss Tyrus. We all feel some of your pain and are with you.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Sorry about your dad, Tyrus. He's still smiling down on ya, be strong. You have many friends here who loved your dad too.
Rest in peace, John!
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Ahhh Tyrus, you should know that there was nothing you could do to change the outcome. Your dad loved you very much, and while feeling great grief is normal, you shouldn't feel any guilt over your dad's decisions. He will indeed be missed.
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Grant Meisenholder
Trad climber
CA
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Tyrus-
As you probably have always known, your father was a giant. But what made him proudest wasn't his ability to climb things that we mortals couldn't even begin to comprehend. It was you. I'm sure that even when you both had some disagreement over whatever it was, his love for you was like El Cap - solid & immense. You will never lose that because you know that in your heart. And it will keep getting stronger to help you through whatever life throws at you. He is a part of you 24/7, in darkness and in light.
I lost my mom at a young age and it sent me for a loop. Took me years to get over. But when I finally realized what I've just told you, things started falling back into place. It's hard and it will take time for the pain to recede, but take a moment now to look at the huge swell of support you have from this community and those you see every day. We're all here to help in whatever ways we can. Just say the word.
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JOEY.F
Social climber
sebastopol
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It is so diffucult young man to loose a parent.
So many here can tell your heart is broken.
Please know, time really does heal.
Sincerely,
Joe Fortney.
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dirtbag
climber
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In times like this you'll realize how many people love you, care about you, and will extend a helping hand.
Lean on them, they want to help!
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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I'm very sorry to hear about your Dad, Tyrus.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Your father has made an inestimable impact on the lives of so many here.
He was true to himself, and true to you Tyrus, right to the end.
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micronut
Trad climber
fresno, ca
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Tyrus,
I'm so sorry for your loss man. I can't imagine what you are going through right now. As you can tell from the site, your dad had an impact on many many lives. He was a vital part of the climbing world, and you are too. You are his flesh and blood and his magic lives on in you. Someday, a long time from now, the pain will fade. You will have to be extraordinarily strong in the coming days and years. Find somebody to hang out with that you can talk to about all this. Keep talking. Keep letting it out. Don't think that being tough is all about keeping it inside. I've spent time with soldiers from different wars. The old guys who talk about it do much better than the dudes who bottle it up. Don't be in a rush to figure it all out. Just put one foot in front of another for a while. Keep breathing. Surround yourself with friends and family. You have a long life ahead and your dad will always be a part of the man you are and will become. See you around.
Scott.
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quietpartner
Trad climber
Moantannah
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Tyrus, in the brief moment I talked with your dad, he impressed me a lot with his good heart.
Don't try to numb yourself to what you're feeling. Let your grief flow. And accept the outpouring of love from everyone here.
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Pennsylenvy
Social climber
A dingy corner in your refrigerator
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I was always waiting for the day your dad could show me a few licks on the saxophone. To say he was admired by many doesn't come close. People live on in the hearts of others, especially someone like your dad. Peace. Tim
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Really sorry for your loss, Tyrus.
I always enjoyed seeing the pix of you that yr dad posted.
Best
Wishes
Kerwin
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Tyrus, truly sorry for your loss. Be strong, follow your own intuitions and path and remember you have an extended family among your father's many friends.
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Largo
Sport climber
Venice, Ca
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Hello, Tyrus-
The last time I talked to your dad, several months ago, we were just finishing the text for the new Stonemaster book. As you probably know, your dad much preferred to climb than to write about it. But I had to have a story written by THE Stonemaster himself (your dad), or the book wouldn´t fly. So I hounded pop for weeks and we went back and forth over a period of months and finally got a story that captures what his climbing was all about. It´s called, Waiting in the Shade, and describes John´s free solo ascent of Butterballs, circa 1976. I never imagined that this book would be a testimonial for your father, for his courage, vision and uncompromising approach to life. Of course, your dad is featured on the cover - who else belongs there? Nobody but your dad, that´s who.
Anyway, that story does say in plain and simple terms, what your dad´s climbing was about. But it doesn´t say what He was about. Tyrus, he was about you. Any friend that talked to John had to be prepared for the conversation to end up about you, because that´s where it was going to go. Never mind some stupid book or story - John Bachar´s life never made real sense till you were born. Any friend can tell you as much.
I grew up with your dad. We climbed and horsed around out at Joshua Tree every winer weekend for many years. We did our first soloing together - I´m sorry to admit, and we pushed each other up increasingly horrendous stuff till he just took off on his own.
We lived about fifty miles away from each other but when one or the other of us would do an interesting problem at Stoney or Rubidoux or wherever, we´d call each other and get the other guy on the problem right away. I remember hitchhiking all the way out to Stoney just to repeat your dad´s classic problem, Umma Gumma, V7, which he did in 1974.
I was super impressed with Bruce Lee´s work outs in Return of the Dragon. I took your dad to see that movie and he started working out like an Olympian. In six months he was cranking off one arm pull ups like nothing and soon built the first rope ladder. He basically invented modern cross training for climbing, including the first crude hang board, and many of the basic movements.
There was one time that we were obsessed with John Gill. We´d talk on the phone for hours about meeting the Legend and doing his boulder problems - all of them. Finally, in 1976, we drove all the way out to Fort Collins from Yosemite - to go bouldering. Nobody did that back then. We traveled to Pueblo and met Gill and did many of the problems. We went all over, wherever there were Gill problems - Split Rocks, Horsetooth, Pueblo, Boulder Canyon, El Dorado, Estes Park, Needles, and many more. It was like being on a treasure hunt. Hardly anyone did any of these problems back then and it was a rush to get up on such hallowed ground and pull down. Your dad was never happier - till you were born.
I remember we were on the last pitch of Astroman. We had the thing done, which amazed us - but there was this last pitch. I led out the thin ledge and climbed up to the top of a pinnacle. This was in 1975 so we only had the old nuts and pitons. The aid route went up and left via a bottoming, pocked groove that was rated A4. But it looked like I could free climb straight up. Maybe. The rock was real grainy and the only protection were tied off pins I had hammered in a pin scar way off left. I kept climbing up a few moves and then downclimbing back to the pinnacle. I didn´t want to commit to a bouldery sequence of unknown difficulty - if I whipped off I knew the nested, tied off pitons would rip out and I´d take a huge winger.
I finally yelled back at Ron Kauk and your dad that I wasn´t sure if I could do this. I wanted one of them to take a look but they were fried and this was my lead - it was my turn to do my part. Finally your dad yelled that it was face climbing, for Christ´s sakes, and that it could not be harder than the stuff I´d been doing for years out at at Suicide and so forth and so on, and just like that, he got me believing I was the best man for the job. We´d been rooting each other up stuff since we were in the 10th grade. I wasn´t sure I could make it but your dad was, and that was good enough for me. And your dad was right - it was far easier than the stuff we´d been doing for years.
So many stories . . .
Your dad was a hero to many of us but to my knowledge, John Bachar only had one hero - you.
John Long
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wbw
climber
'cross the great divide
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I´m very sorry for your loss.
At a time when I needed a place to go, an identity on which to hang my hat, I looked up to your father and found it.
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graham Johnson
Sport climber
Antioch
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TB, our prayers go out to you and the family on such a sad occassion. My wife and I got the call last night from Yerian and spent quiet some time consoling him, he like so many others loved your dad.
The King as left the building but his accomplishments and memories will be forever with us.
RIP John.
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Buggs
Trad climber
Eagle River, Alaska
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Tyrus,
I never met your father. But he is legend and I knew him through the words of others who knew him well. We are not required to live any certain way, just to follow our hearts, and live FULLY. That, I am certain, is what your dad did, and all he would ask for you. Blessings be upon you in this sad time. As you see and feel the love from those who loved your dad, know that he is at peace. And peace be with you.
Michael Seizys
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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TB your dad will be missed but never forgotten. The great ones always blaze a path of incredible achievement for the rest of us to marvel at. Please know that in this community you will never be alone. If there is ever anything that would be helpful for you all you need to do is ask. My sincerest condolences to you. Be strong.
Phil Broscovak.
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Double D
climber
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Tyrus I am so sorry for your loss. Your dad was a very special person and touched many lives.
God bless you and your family.
Dave Diegelman
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tom woods
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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This is hits hard for all who knew the man and knew of him. I am so sorry for your loss Tryus.
I can't believe it.
A legend to me since I was a kid, then I move out here to the Eastside and I run into him from time to time, boulder some problems with him every once and a while. For a legend in his own time, he was always down to earth and game to do a few problems with hack like me.
He will be missed.
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Grammy
Trad climber
North Conway, New Hampshire
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I am so sad for your loss Tyrus. Your Dad was and will always be a giant among giants with a heart as big as the Valley itself. No words could possibly describe the shock and saddness of hearing this news. We have lost a great friend, a great climber and a great soul.
I send you strength and light in this difficult time. We are all with you.
Grammy
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drunkenmaster
Social climber
santa rosa
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TB - your dad is one of my life long climbing idols. i only met him a couple times but i was honored each time. i am also so very honored to have many photos of him in my Tuolumne Bouldering guide that comes out in a couple weeks - i want you to have a few free copies - i will send them to your dads address. John also wrote a small piece for the introduction of the book along with a small piece by Ron Kauk. it means so much to me to have honored him and the legends of rock climbing - the original Stonemasters. i feel very lucky to have gotten to work with him and to have learned from watching such a master. just as we are all lucky to have had such an inspirational man like your dad in our lives. you are not alone - he will always be with you and all of us in our thoughts, in our hearts and in the wind that blows over the Sierras rocky peaks and in the warmth of the sun on our cheeks. you are part of the climber family - dont be afraid to ask for anything from me or any of us anytime. peace and love to you bro. hang in there.
Chris Summit - summitorplummet@hotmail.com
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Edge
Trad climber
New Durham, NH
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Tyrus, there is nothing for me to say here that previous posters have not already commented on.
I only knew your dad peripherally in the early eightys, when I was hanging around Yosemite. We did exchange several conversations, and he was the "real deal," always interested in what routes I was working on and always with a big smile that made him just fun to be around. I cannot imagine your grief, but if a lifetime can be measured by the people who one affects in a positive way, then your dad was a sultan among men.
You have my deepest sympathies.
Loran Smith
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duraj
Social climber
Sedona, AZ
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TB,
A single moment of life is more precious than all the treasures in the universe.
John Bachar and family are supported by the universe itself. Death is only temporary and he will be back soon. But until we meet him again we'll live the best lives' that mentors like Bachar expect us to. This is in honor of one of the greatest humans that ever lived. My heart and prayers go out to you, family and friends of the global community who survive this tragic loss.
JD
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noshoesnoshirt
climber
I don't even know any more
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I'm so sorry.
He was an inspiration to me and countless others.
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malabarista
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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I can't even begin to process this. He was one of my heros. I always appreciated his presence here and his wise words. Godspeed JB. The world is now diminished... a great light has gone out.
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the Fet
Supercaliyosemistic climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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An inspiration. An honest man. A legend.
I am so sorry for your loss.
With time your grief will subside. Until then you have our best wishes and support.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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I'm one more person from the climbing community sharing your sorrow. I know from personal experience that it takes a long time after an accident like this to pick up the pieces, but slowly things will get better.
If you need anything great or small, just let us know in this forum.
Jan Sacherer
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Conrad
climber
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Greetings Tyrus,
My heart goes out to you in this time of grief. Your father was a wonderful man who inspired many and redefined climbing. His greatest contribution to our existence is you. You're a fine person.
John's peer in mountain climbing, Alex Lowe, died 10 years ago. His three sons have the motivation and drive their father was born with. They miss their father dearly and honor him by being fine young men.
The energy your father created is you.
Till we meet,
With empathy,
Conrad Anker
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L
climber
A deep dive in the shallows of life..
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Tyrus,
You had the coolest dad anyone could've asked for...I'm so sorry this happened...we're all grieving the loss of him.
Your dad had a lot of wonderful friends, many of whom you know personally. Just remember they will be there for you if you ever need to talk about him, or feel like hearing the stories.
Namaste Tyrus.
Laura
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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The strength and goodness that was within your Father runs through your veins as well.
Honor your father and yourself by being strong in your way.
You are no longer in the shadow - you now stand in the sun.
Do good things and live well.
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Conner
Social climber
on the road
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Tyrus.... I am so very sad and sorry to hear of John's passing. I knew your Dad, not well, but well enough. He made a huge contribution to the climbing community. He set the bar high and was inspirational to all. He lived close to his heart, and that is where you were and will remain always.
Love knows no bounds,
not time or space,
or even place.
Listen for your Dad,
see his face.
He lives in your heart,
You are never far apart.
Hear his words,
feel his love,
know he is with you,
watching from above.
Your Dad had a gift,
he shared with the world.
Now let the world
Give you a lift.
Reach out to friends,
Known and unknown.
Live your best life,
Make it your own.
Your Dad will be proud,
whatever you do.
Just follow your heart,
That’s the best place to start.
With Heartfelt Condolences,
Connie Self
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originalpmac
Trad climber
Ouray, CO
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Tyrus,
I have never met you or your Dad, but have spent plenty of time watching old MoS videos with your dad soloing in purple tights and a tank top on at Red Rocks, just loving the carefree rock star attitude. People like Bachar, that radiate energy and love for the passions are a gift from the universe. I am sorry to hear that you lost your dad. I lost my mom to cancer when I was sixteen. She died at home, with no pain meds, approaching death fully conscious, up to the end. Her death inspired me to move west a year later and to get into climbing. One must live life to its fullest extent and go into the last adventure, fully alive. Your Dad went in a way that is about as noble as it gets, and even in his death, is still inspiring people.
Best to you out there man, losing a parent is hard, way hard, but the only thing that one can do is live for them, fully.
Best to you, all of you.
Pierce Adams
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Dirka
Trad climber
SF
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Sorry for your loss. Your dad was a legend in his own time.
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looking sketchy there...
Social climber
Latitute 33
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Tyrus, Your father's love is always there. It is eternal.
Though we've never met, the few times your dad and I spoke in recent years -- and as John Long mentioned -- the conversation inevitably turned to being parents and our unconditional love for our children.
He will be missed.
Randy Vogel
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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Tyrus,
I will always miss your Dad. You know that I am here if you ever need a #3 just call.
Love,
Anastasia
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JesseM
Social climber
Yosemite
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Hey Tyrus,
You probably don't remember me, but a few years ago we went bouldering a couple times with your Dad (and Rachel Turiel) up in Tuolumne Meadows at the Knobs. Your dad was just getting back into climbing...this made it fun for me because we could actually work the same problems! I remember that he wasn't that concerned about the climbing there or climbing in general, he was just psyched to be up in a place he loved with the person he loved most in the world, YOU!!
We talked about his legendary route across the way at Medlicott, The Bachar-Yerian -- a route an ordinary climber like me only dreams about -- he gazed over at Medlicott a couple times, and then turned his attention back to you, the focus of his life.
When I was your age I was inspired by stories and photos of your Dad, John Bachar, to come out to Yosemite and live the dream. I finally moved out here when I was 23, and still cherish the history and path that your dad and other pioneers of our sport created here in Yosemite. I will always remember JB!
Peace,
Jesse McGahey
Yosemite Climbing Ranger
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Sean Jones
climber
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Tyrus,
I only met you as a baby. New your Dad quite well and have known your Mom for way longer. She knows how to reach me. You ever need anything at all....never hesitate to call me. So sorry man. I'm out east now but am headed west in a week. Surely will be meeting you soon. Looking forward to it. Hang tough and remember what I said. If you ever need anything.......
Sean Jones.
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Bobo
Trad climber
San Francisco
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He will always be in the hearts of those of us he inspired, and looking after you too TB.
For those of us who came up in climbing when he did he sort of staked out the far reaches and made us see what was possible. His standards and ethics and articulation of their basis was far more influential then the sport has realized (yet).
RIP and good traveling to you John.
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10b4me
Boulder climber
Neil Young land
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Tyrus,
never met your dad, but he was definitely an inspiration to me.
hang tough, and be strong. you will get though this.
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the kid
Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
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Tyrus,
be proud of your father and all who he touched. be proud of your father to sticking to his guns and never taking the easy way out.
be proud of your father for all that he did to progress the sport that we all love so much.
be proud of your father for showing you so many wonderful adventures. Every time i saw him he would light up like a roman candle when he would talk about you. he loved you and was proud to have you in his life.
his life was never easy and not always fun but he stood his ground and never compromised his dreams, his vision and i will always hold him in the highest regard.
he did more to influence me than anyone in my life and i owe him for showing me the way and letting me try to follow in his footsteps.
he was greater than a great man, he was and will always be my hero, my idol, my friend..
kurt smith
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casey yorkunas
Trad climber
CA/CO
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Tyrus, tears are flowing for your loss..... I'm soooooo sorry, my heart is with you..... I've been playing funk and bebop all day just incase his horn lines are blowing in the wind. Your dads bold spirit will be missed and remembered always.
casey
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footy
Sport climber
washington
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So sorry to hear about your loss. You are in my prayers-
Derek
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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So sorry to hear of your unthinkable loss. I am crying now for a man that I never met and his faimly. This strikes mighty close to home. Your dad was one of my inspirations when I started climbing.. May the grace of god be with you and all of Johns family and loved ones.. Nick Goldsmith
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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I feel for you Tyrus, my dad died when I was 12 in a climbing accident.
There is nothing worse.
I knew your dad for 35 years, he is an inspiration to us all.
Hang in there.
David Evans
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Condolences to family and friends, i didn't know your dad that well (back in the mid-1970s) but he was an inspiration.
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yosemitemtb
Social climber
El Portal
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So sorry to hear about this, my condolences, TB. Tell your Mom that Jerry and Bea in Yosemite send our prayers. The last time I saw her, you were in her belly!
Jerry Kell
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TomT
Trad climber
Aptos.
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TB,
Here is one thing I know about your dad. I've been a weekend climber for most of 40 years. I swing through the valley or meadows once a year to get my bit of heaven. Every other season, chances are I would bumped into your dad, at the store, at a wall, or another haunt we all love.
Despite my being at the margin, since a single afternoon he and I bouldered together, 35 years ago, your dad has always walk up to me, remembered my name, shook my hand, and ask what I was doing with sincere interest - he was a not only a great climber, he was a good person.
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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
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Tyrus, my father died when I was 14 and damn was that hard. There is no getting around the fact that it hurts, hurts like hell and will for a long time. Do reach out to others! that helps and it helps to know you had a great father, one you can be so very proud of, a legacy, one that you are very much a part of.
I bet you brought an immense amount of joy into your father's heart and life, hold onto that, hold onto how dear you were to him and bless you!
My heart goes out to you Tyrus, hang in there guy and bless you.
Karen
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Tyrus...thanks for talking with me today! You help me..I really appreciate it.
A BIG Thanks
Ron
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Sparky
Trad climber
vagabon movin on
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TB-
My condolences. Your father certainly was and always will be considered a great man.
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deeski
Trad climber
North Carolina
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Tyrus....my heart goes out to you! You are a part of a family of climbers who will support and be here for you not just in the coming days...but for the rest of your life!
Dee
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murcy
climber
San Fran Cisco
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Tyrus,
I admire your reaching out to this forum and sharing your pain.
What with all this well-earned praise and adulation for your Dad, you might get the sense that it's not okay to be ... a little or a lot ... pissed off at him, too. Maybe you don't and won't feel that way. I have no idea how I'd feel in your shoes. But I expect there'd be a little pissed-off in the mix.
Murcy
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Tyrus-
Don't know what to say. Your dad is such an inspiration. I want to say more but fear being obtuse. He is, as ekat says, our Bachstar!
Magic!
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Zander
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Hey Tyrus,
My dad died when he was 55. I think about him all the time, even though I’m now 49. He used to say to me and my two brothers, “You are the best thing that ever happened to me”. I’ve carried that with me my whole life, like magic to draw on. I didn’t know your dad but from reading this thread it is obvious he felt the same about you. Like so many I am in awe of your dad’s climbing vision. But hearing his feelings for you lets me know he knew the greater things too. I wish you well in this tough time.
Zander
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juiicy J
Trad climber
thousand oaks ca
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What a sad day for the climbing World.. Your father
was a great climber, and a very cool man.. My children
enjoyed hanging out with him one afternoon at The Gorge...
God Speed.. Lots of love, jp
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NAIMA
Gym climber
san juan, puerto rico
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Tyrus"
I am so sorry for your lost!
When I met John I knew he had a special gift. He was shy, a true "Nature boy". He work hard to follow his dream. He was true to himself and to everything he loved. So much I learn from him.
Last year he told me that in fatherhood he had found the reason for his life. Think of him often, but dont let sadness invade those thoghts. Be string. I hope to meet you some day!
My deepest sympathy to you and to his family.
For today I will help him sing one of his favorite tunes...
-HEY!
AND THAT'S WHY
YOU CAN'T HOLD ME DOWN
I DON'T WANT TO BE DOWN I GOTTA MOVE
HEY
STONE FREE DO WHAT I PLEASE
STONE FREE TO RIDE THE BREEZE
STONE FREE I CAN'T STAY
I GOT TO GOT TO GOT TO GET AWAY
Naima
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chez
Social climber
chicago ill
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Naima,
I was driving back to Mammoth today and turned on the radio and said to myself "lets hear one for John" and i caught the tail end of that Hendrix song. I didn't think much of it at the time. What do ya know!
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rhyang
climber
SJC
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When I was in a rehab hospital after breaking my neck in a car accident in 2007, I received a package in the mail.
The package was from John -- he sent me a couple of climbing pictures, and a gripmaster (finger strength training device) with "JB" engraved on the handle. I guess he used it to rehab from his accident. Receiving this package really brought my spirits up.
I never met him personally, just traded some emails with him about rehabbing, weight training, etc.
Now that he is gone of course I realize what I should have said to him -- told him what a difference his actions made to me.
But I have found that I never think of such things until it is too late. Damn it all.
Yes, he was a great man, and he will be sorely missed :(
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Tyrus, took the day off to reflect on your Dad. He is indeed a great man and .... will be so missed. Not even just for his rockclimbing which was and will be the most stellar on the planet.
No, Tyrus, to me your Pop will be most remembered because he was a man that cared about People. Rhang said it well and I too have stories. I'm sure some of your Dad's best old friends that have not posted here have contacted you if they haven't already and given you their stories of bitd.
Proud Dude.....lynne
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Hi Lynne, you're still awake too.....
I've been reading Robert Service and tying it into John's life in my head.
Bid good-by to sweetheart, bid good-by to friend;
The Lone Trail, the Lone Trail follow to the end.
Tarry not, and fear not, chosen of the true;
Lover of the Lone Trail, the Lone Trail waits for you.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Yeah, Survival, I am awake cause I just cannot get past this loss. I am so thinking and praying for Tyrus and John's close ones. Peace Dude. lynnie
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Levy
Big Wall climber
So Cal
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Tyrus, my deepest condolences go out to you at this difficult time. I lost my mother when I was 15 years old & it created a void in my life that has never been forgot. Your dad was an inspiration to all of us & his passing leaves behing a great sadness to those whose lives he touched.
My sincerest sympathies to you, your mom & John's family. Bless you all.
Bill Leventhal
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thedogfather
climber
Midwest
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Tyrus, I only knew your dad through some emails but even in those few communications, you were the focus. I was the guy that was lucky enough to tape the TV shows that featured your dad back in the 70's and 80's. When I contacted him back in 2006, he was excited about getting a chance to get those clips because the copies he had were all destroyed in the fire. (they are the ones that are now on youtube). Below is the email.
Thanks Dick! Your last name sounds familiar...I'm getting old. If you ever need some shoes, I'll sport ya' a pair (=free!). It's worth it to me - I at least gotta have this stuff for my nine year old son to see I wasn't a total loser. Anyway, my address is below. If you ever need anything, let me know. Be more than happy to help out!
Your dad was a class act.
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captain chaos
climber
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Tyrus... I'm at a loss for words, all I can say is I'm very, very sorry for your loss, your father was a great man, and will be heavily missed by all of us. He was a very good friend of mine, and was one of the key people who got me into climbing. He was by far one of the most talented people I've ever known, both mentally and physically. I'm still in shock so you'll have to forgive me for not being able to write more, as I just now learned about this and I'm still not able to accept it yet. Please know you always have a place to hang you hat in Chamonix... with deep sorrow and much sadness- Craig Calonica
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shipoopoi
Big Wall climber
oakland
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tyrus, i am so sorry for your loss. your dad was a mentor to me back in the day. when i made the second ascent of the bachar yerian, it catapulted me to another level, but he basically gave me the route in a quick converssation when he said i was ready for it. i'll always be grateful to him for that confidence inspiring pep talk.
after his car accident, i restablished communication with john, occasionally calling him to see how he as doing. he was so nice to me in these calls, offering free shoes to me, and what not. i realized that john was no longer the intense, single minded individual he once was, but that he had mellowed into a kinder, gentler john bachar. and it was having you tyrus, that made him into this version
for myself, i am reeling right now because i just lost the greastest teacher i ever had. your dad was simply awesome.
steve schneider
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Tyrus, your dad loved you so very much. John and I were great friends back in the mid 80's, and he and I have been in touch often throughout the years. Every time I talked with John in recent years, he would tell me a story about you, how you were doing and what you were up to. John was always so proud of you, and you have been the best thing in his life.
I am so sorry for your loss, and know that your healing process will be strong through this time of passing.
Yours
John Middendorf
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dbs
climber
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Tyrus,
I have not met you. I did know your dad though. We were friends for 37 years.
Be strong, your dad is proud of you and you have his strength.
It will be hard for a while, but don't ever forget. Remember him and love him always. He will be there for you in those memories, and will carry you through all of you life.
Call anytime and I will tell you many stories that will make you smile.
Best,
Dale
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Alexander Huber
Mountain climber
Germany
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Hello Tyrus!
I am going to publish a book about free solo climbing and therefor I had been working together with your father during the last weeks. If you would be interested to get the book, then let me know!
I am very sorry for your loss, your Dad was a great man!
Alexander Huber
latok97@yahoo.de
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Shelley Mayfield
climber
Mammoth Lakes
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Tyrus, I am so sorry for your loss. Your dad is a hero and he will be remembered for a long long time, my words cannot express how I feel for you and your family right now. You are strong and your dad loved you sooo much. Shelley Mayfield
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Rhodo-Router
Gym climber
a greasy pinscar near you
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Tyrus-
Don't ever be afraid to talk about it.
Rob
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Domingo
Trad climber
El Portal, CA
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Tyrus - losing a father is impossibly hard, especially when you're young. I say that from firsthand experience. Talk about it, whenever you need to. You are so loved from so many people who can tell you stories about your dad. Hear them. Find out more about him. Take care of yourself first.
So many people love you and will support you.
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darin
climber
mammoth lakes
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tyrus....i am so sorry for your loss....i used to live in mammoth and play music with your pop....he was a great guy and will be missed....im in arcata now and see your mom and you around alot.....i hope you guys heal quickly
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burp
Trad climber
Salt Lake City
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Tyrus,
So sorry for your loss. Please know that many people are thinking of you.
Hang in there ...
Mike Hansen
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crøtch
climber
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Tyrus,
I'm really sorry about your Dad. I know he'll be with you always.
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Ezra
Social climber
WA, NC, Idaho Falls
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Tyrus,
I lost my own father at age 7 to cancer. I cried for 24 hours strait, (not exagerating). I hardly slept the first week after he died. I have never been so sad in my life, and that was 27 years ago. With time you WILL heal, but it takes a full year to start to feel like you are getting back into a routine.
I am soooo sory for your loss, we all admired your father greatly.
Best
-ezra
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shut up and pull
climber
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Oh Tyrus ... the tears were many today for you. Your dad was my idol for a long time. You will need strength in the years ahead without your dad -- stay away from drugs and booze, study hard, work hard, be honest, and give your life to something greater than yourself.
God bless dude.
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JEM
Social climber
Oxnard, CA
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I am very sorry for your loss Tyrus. My thoughts are with you. Stay strong and open to the outpouring of love and sympathy from so many of his friends.
John Moore
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dilettante
Trad climber
NJ
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I'm so very sorry that your dad died. It devasted me, someone who only knew of him, to hear that he was gone so I can only imagine what you're going through. I'm sure that he loved you very deeply and never intended to leave you. Hang in there.
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Mazzystr
Gym climber
Homeless...
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Hi Tyrus,
My sincerest condolences for your loss. North Carolina folks have been pouring their distraught and condolences on the local boards and email lists. Your fathers reputation and generosity is wide spread. He was very well received at his lecture in Asheville, NC last year.
I have never met John. I only know of him through story and film. His passion and achievement with family, friend, sport and life I can only dream about. He is and will always be an inspiration to myself and many others.
/Chris C
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Old&InTheWay
Trad climber
NC
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Tyrus,
You're right. John is a great man. I've known and respected your Dads name for 30 years, but I've never met him. He IS one of my heroes, but I live a very long way from California. Your dad inspired the freedom of living and climbing in more people than we may ever know. He made us all rethink what we though was possible and we are better because of it.
From all the posts, anyone can tell he really loved you. You are in my thoughts in this difficult time.
May peace and love always be there when you need it.
-Bruce
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jennifer LaDuca
Social climber
Oakhurst
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So sorry for your loss. May your father rest peacefully....
Corbett family
Nipinawasse, Ca
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kdcpeloton
Mountain climber
No. Cal
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Tyrus, I met you many years ago when I was interviewing your dad for a film I was making. I thought you both were terrific. Your dad inspired and made us laugh. I lost my dad (a climber and skier) when I was young, too. This poem has helped me and I hope it helps you, too. Love and great courage to you.
(From an Indian Death Song)
Do not stand at my grave and weep –
I am not there. I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow.
I am the diamond glint on snow.
I am the sunlight on ripened grain.
I am the gentle autumn rain.
When you wake in the morning hush,
I am the swift uplifting rush
Of quiet birds in circling flight.
I am the soft star light at night.
Do not stand at my grave and weep.
I am not there. I do not sleep.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Tyrus,
Put a postage stamp on that sax and send it to the sky.
Even from there, JB can reach down and touch us again.
The climbing world is a broad and deep world based on real
friendships. We are a tribe and JB was one of our elders.
His ring was clear and true.
We all respect you for being a part of that man, and that man a part of you.
May peace ride with you.
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mmadd
Trad climber
Squamish, BC
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Hi Tyrus. You don't know me but your Dad sponsored me with Acopa. I just found out 20 minutes ago and it has devastated me. Your father was a great man. An inspiration to me for my entire 20 years of climbing. I was so honored when he took me on board. His love, his fun attitude and his passion will never be forgotten. If your ever in Squamish, Canada you have a home. You can find me through his email. Take care.
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Tyrus,
You said so much in your brief post.
Yes, your dad was a great man. Everyone agrees. But since his greatness was beyond us, we struggle to understand it. We could all admire his genius -- as all these notes to you attest -- but few could understand it. You need to know that the great men live by different rules than the rest of us. They can be hard to understand, because they forge the new rules of life that will be clearer only in the future.
You are a privileged young man because you got to live closer to the genius of your dad than any of us. And no doubt you have inherited some of John's agility of body and of mind, and his calm in the face of danger; and that his way of being in the world has rubbed off on you. No doubt some of your dad's greatness will be expressed in due time in your life. And no doubt too it will take its own special form in your unique being.
Great men die by their own rules too. That can be just as hard to understand and feel, right now, even harder to accept. Yes, it is totally unfair that he is taken from you. At times the universe is unfair. Screamingly unfair.
I was on my way to Tuolumne when I heard the news. All day I climbed on that granite that John knew better and loved more intensely than any of us. All day, with nearly every move I made, I thought about your dad, and wished he could have been there to experience such a fine mountain day.
But the next morning -- this morning -- I realized that the situation was not so much loss as fullness. That John had already experienced more of Tuolumne in his life than any of us had. That he had wrung so much from the experience that he was already immeasurably fuller, brim full, beyond the rest of us.
You see, the thought was already healing, shifting me from the loss of him to the fullness of his life.
You said another big thing too. About feeling -- knowing -- that it was not a good day for soloing. Hold on to that. Your intuition was speaking to you, and it is hard for us to learn to listen to our intuition, to hear and obey. Out of your dad's death, that at least is a small gift to you.
I don't cry much, and there were tears in my eyes all day yesterday. Peace to you Tyrus, and understanding.
With love,
Doug Robinson
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Tyrus,
Back after another day of sober contemplation. I mentioned stories about your Dad yesterday and there are some that show what kind of person he was inside his soul. I'd like to try and share a couple. These are for you to remember in the days that follow when you may be alone dealing with your loss and all the thoughts and struggles that sometimes follow.
Your Pop was probably one of the most gifted climbers ever, if that alone is what he's remembered for it would be an awesome tribute.
But to me and my family your Dad was much more than the Best Climber. We knew your Pop when our 4 kids were little and we hauled them around in Josh and Yosemite. Your Dad always said howdy on the trail, never in to much of a hurry to stop and
talk.
When your Dad and my husband Dan were up in Tuloumne many years ago someone set up a boxing match between them. Dan was 10 years older, but boxed in college and good. So Dan kinda decked your Poppa. But your Dad, ever the Class Act, wrote the story on Super Topo when my husband died in 2007 and ended the story with these words.....(I'd never known the end of the story...) "and Dan said, "" damn, I still have it."" An incredibly good sport, your Dad.
Your father honored my husband by recounting this really funny story on my husbands ...."will be missed thread". Your Dad was a real man because he knew who he was and his ego was not threatened by telling the story.
So after Dan died your Dad emailed and helped me through the grief of losing someone I loved so much. Your Dad was able to do this because he himself knew grief having lost two close friends. How many incredible athletes of your Dad's caliber take the time to support an old aquaintance who was not even a close friend? Your Dad did!
More recently your Dad and I began to work together to strategize and promote his future. Even though John was struggling, as I was, to make mortgage payments he made sure I knew I would make a percentage off anything we collaborated on.
I told him til I knew what I was really doing no payment, but a poster would be nice.
Tyrus, your Dad cared about people. He knew I was trying to reinvent my life (after Dan died) so he made sure when he signed up with Simon recently for the slide shows that Simon would teach me also.
Last week your Dad invited me to the outdoor show in Salt Lake to make contacts and learn the ropes to continue my education in marketing and climbing promo.
When we had a recent Thread on ST Called (I think) Are you a climber.....I posted and said tho I loved to climb I was not to be considered a climber because I could not set anchors etc. Your Pop emailed and said he would teach me how.
"Yeah, I thought, one of the greatest ever climbers offering to take time to teach this old lady". What a Dude !!!!!
So Tyrus, some stories from my life to let you know that your Dad was a remarkable human because he cared about humans. He not only cared, he did what few do. He took time out of his busy life to enter the lives of others and help them. To help them live and learn and grow.
You know as I write this I am realizing that this is what jesus has asked us to do. And your Dad did it...he lived it.
Your Dad was a new Grate Friend to me, he was the best and I miss him sorely. I will pray for you everyday Tyrus like I did for your Dad. Peace be with you and finally ..... Cheers someday. Cheers was one of your Dad's favorite email endings....Positive Dude. Not Perfect, none of us are, but gifted, special and caring. Peace be with you. I have more stories and I'm only an email away.
I hope some of this helps give insight into your Dad's life. You are special Ty and there is a plan for your life too, Dude.
Night Tyrus, Lynne
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Fletcher
Trad climber
the end of the world as we know it, & I feel fine.
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I only hope that my children have extraordinary people like Lynne and Doug (and many others here) to guide them when I am gone.
Peace and light,
Eric
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Estee
Social climber
Alpine, Utah
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Dear Tyrus. Your sweet words comforted me very much. I am so sorry for your loss. My family and I loved your father. We recently saw a show of his in Utah. It was very entertaining and at one point a question was asked about what Your Father concidered his greatest accomplishment. With no hesitation he said, "My Son". You could feel the love and reverence he has for you. You are in our hearts and prayers to help give you any strength or peace and comfort you may need. Carry On Love, the Millers
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Abissi
Trad climber
MI
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Heavens gonna be a better place with your Dad there.
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YHVH
climber
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Tyrus
I knew your dad for a short period when I lived in Mammoth. I knew he was the greatest climber in the world...but he was much more than that. He gave voice to people who didn't have one. He spoke truth....and sometimes critisized for it. For this he is a great man...with a pure heart and an amazing soul. He could see beyond. I would watch him with you as a baby..He loves you more than words can say. My dad passed on when I was 10...and we still have an incredible connection..NO DOUBT
Sending you PURE LIGHT_
FIAT LVX
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Hardly Visible
Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
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Tyrus,
I did not know your dad other than through reputation,but having recently lost a loved on I do understand the grief you must be going through. Do not be afraid to feel and accept all of the kindness and good thoughts that will be coming your way during this troubled time. My heart and Prayers go out to you.
Kevin
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Marco.
climber
italia
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Tyrus,
I've met your Dad twice here in Italy by real, but I've spoke so much with him.
He was a Great and Amazing man.
You must be proud of your Dad young Bachar.
Stay strong.
Marco
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Wilster
Social climber
So.Cal.
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Such horrible news
So sorry for your loss TB
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Rob Roy Ramey
Trad climber
Colorado
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John Bachar's actions spoke louder than words. His feats were visionary and beyond the horizon of possibilities. That is a powerful legacy to be proud of.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Hi, young Dude. Been praying for you and all your family, Paola, and friends today. Found out one thing about grief and profound sadness this past year....at least it helped me alot. I tried to avoid the feelings, but when I just stopped trying to push them away and allowed them to happen ( I called it embracing grief ) it began to ever so slightly ease. The posters are right. Time....it will take time....a step at a time, a day at a time with patience and perserverance you all will make it. Peace, lynne (I cry with you and ask, "what pray, is so healing about tears and why at times are they so hard to come by?" )
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scuffy b
climber
Sinatra to Singapore
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Hey Lynne,
I've noticed something lately, about tears.
I get some bad news, for instance this bad news, and feel numb,
sad, but comparatively calm, until I try to talk about it,
then the floodgates open.
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Great Aunt Chere Lei
Social climber
Coarsegold, CA
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Dear Tyrus,
I don't know if you remember me from the cruise your mom and you took a while back but I am your great aunt on your mom's side. I didn't know your dad but I do know you and your mom and my heart breaks for what you are going through now. It is hard to lose your dad at such a young age but you have friends and family who love you and will help you through just hold on to them. You're a great kid.
Love your
Great Aunt Chere Lei
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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scuffy b, thanks....guess we just need to find the right key to unlock the sahara desert.
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Tyrus,
I tried replying to this thread yesterday but just couldn't put my thoughts together. Words fall very short at a time like this. I've never met you, and knew your father through correspondence. I feel somewhat kindred to John as I also have a 12 y/o son, and know exactly how he feels about you, the love for you and pride in you. It was clear in his e-mails how much you mean to him as he was often mentioning going off to a little league baseball game or some other activity with you.
And I can relate to you somewhat, as I lost my father two years ago, and he was also a great man. He also faced tragedy at a young age, loosing his father when he was 3, and his brother was killed on Iwo Jima when my father was 17. I know from my father’s life that you will be fine, even though you hurt so much right now. The toughest part is that you are still in shock, and it’ll take some time for this all to settle in. But in time you will come to terms with your grief, as we all do.
You are absolutely right that your father was a great man. Yes his climbing achievements were legendary, but he would have been unable to achieve those feats if he weren’t a great person. His climbing wasn’t his greatness, it was just how his greatness was manifest by him. So very few people perform anywhere near their capabilities, so many find excuses why things can’t be done. But for your father, he was never distracted or dissuaded by what couldn’t be done. He had complete focus, vision and he made his dreams real. He shattered people’s conception of what was possible by doing what seemed impossible. You are fortunate to have both the blood of this great man, and to have been raised by him.
I know your looking back thinking if only he hadn’t gone out climbing he’d still be with you. But sadly we each have an end that none of us can predict when and where we will leave this life. For John to have stopped climbing would have been for him to have stopped living. All of us miss John and wish he could still be with us. He had accomplished so much, and yet we knew he was capable of so much more. But for whatever reason, now was his time. It isn’t fair, and it doesn’t numb the pain but we have to accept it.
As I said at my father’s eulogy, he’s the best father a son could ever have. I know that you also can with the fullest truth say that about your father.
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midarockjock
climber
USA
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TRB,
Besides the other greatness mentioned your dad did
good for the climbing economy. The market was very
small and difficult to get gear until he appeared on TV.
Both your dad with his climbing ability and Vogel with
his book moved the world markets.
Keep the shoes moving if able and you wish to do so.
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OfBlinkingThings
Boulder climber
Jacksonville, Fl
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Tyrus,
I am younger than most on this forum and have never met your father. Your dad was a hero to me and still is. My buddies and I would always say "Bachar up" when one of us got sketched out. When I have kids they will learn about the skill and boldness you father had. His legacy will live on forever, His named etched into rock all over the world.
Jim
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tojo
Sport climber
Lake Norden, SD
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Your dad inspired a lot of people to reach higher than they thought they ever could, thats what great men do......sorry for the pain of your families loss.
Frankie McCrary
Lake Norden SD
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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So Tyrus, again thinking of you tonight. Do you know I have a crazy big extended family with tons of youngun's like you. Maybe that's why you are so much on my heart and brain. I know you are going back home and the flow of your life has changed course, but you always, always will be in my prayers.
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WBraun
climber
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tolman -- "For John to have stopped climbing would have been for him to have stopped living."
I ain't buying that.
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oldgrom
Trad climber
boise,idaho
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John, you were the man.
Thanks for the sax serenade while Bob and I were on the Captain (1980 for the record)
Rest in peace.
Paul
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powertool
Trad climber
lindon utah
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TB, my thoughts and prayers are with you though we've never met. I talked with your Father at a slideshow he gave recently. During the presentation a question as asked of your Dad "what was his greatest life accomplishment" His answer was not those incredible climbs, he simple stated....to raise my son. His love for you was tremendous. I believe you will see him again some day. God bless you. Your father was an inspiration to us all. He will be missed! I wish you peace and comfort in this tragic time. Scott
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Thank you to everyone for the stories, photos and memories. It helps. I've been working on a story, but it's not ready yet.
The New York Times is carrying an obituary of John tomorrow.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/09/sports/09bachar.html?hpw
The Associated Press, a world-wide news wire, also has something:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jj4yj37U9DWYfLMh8iNpt2MokknAD99AL1G04
I've been following coverage of John's death in the news media. There are about 40 googlenews links so far, although not so many actual stories. A lot seem to be local and regional California papers picking up from what was in the Los Angeles Times. But it's pretty clear that to a greater or lesser extent the mainstream media is getting information about John and what happened from the threads on SuperTopo. That, and consideration for John's family, suggest that we should continue to take care as to what we say here, and how we say it.
(Cross-posted.)
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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During some discussions with John in 2006 when we met up in Josh, I was surprised and impressed with the commitment, genuine concern and care, and general, well, Love that John Held for Tyrus.
His interest in fatherhood was as passionate and well considered as his bent to climb.
I think this element of fatherhood in his life was a great blessing to his heart and a transformational energy in his life.
It sure feels like a huge slice of his great Spirit has passed to his son, whom I know will lead a life unfettered by pettiness and dull days.
Sorry for your loss bro. Feel it as you must, celebrate your Dad, lead your own life, and don't look back except with a big heart.
Peace
Karl
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pb.
Sport climber
Hildesheim, Germany
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Tyrus
I'm posting from Germany, where your father has inspired and pushed the scene so much in the early eighties. We are so sad about your loss. Your father has always been a heroe for me and I think he was one of the last outstanding characters representing the "real climbing".
Best wishes for you
pb.
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luca
Trad climber
milano italy
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your loss is so big...
be strong and careful
the climber was one of the lights of his generation
the father will ever be you light
luca 51 y.o from italy with two daughters (16 and 14 y.o.) climbing with: like father the sons are the most important thing in your life, but if you are a climber you must climb in your style.
his style was the best
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Eiger
Mountain climber
Zurich, Switzerland
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Our hearts goes out to you Tyrus from Switzerland. Your Dad was highly respected among Swiss mountaineers.
Just take each day as it comes, the hurt will in time ease and you will again be able to smile and laugh over memories of the wonderful times you spent with him. For now, look after yourself and never be afraid to ask for help and understanding.
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reddirt
climber
Elevation 285 ft
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Tyrus:
I am so so so sad. I am glad you connected with the taco & hope you will count on all yours & your Dad's friends. I wish there was something I could do to ease the pain of all this.
reddirt (Judy) in Washington DC
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cindy may
Social climber
whidbey island wa
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Iam so sorry for the loss of your dad.He was such a part of my history in my early days of climbing.I lost my dad two years ago and it is the most painful time.You are so loved.Hold on to that.OH my gosh...This is so sad.Blessings to you sweet son of john.cindy may
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Ray-J
Social climber
cali
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He will be missed.
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Hi Tyrus,
Thought you might like this. It was taken around May of 1997 in Yosemite. You Dad and others most likely told you of the stories between fellow climbers and the rangers.
Met some incredible people in my life and your dad was one them.
JT
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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bump for Tyrus, Paola and Family. People gathering some thoughts and this should Not go off the front page til they can post. lrl
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Ottawa Doug
Social climber
Ottawa, Canada
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Tyrus,
Your dad was THE free soloist of his generation. I know that he wants you to grow up to be your own man and do what you want to do. It may take time to find that 'thing', but keep looking and I'm sure you'll find it.
Remember, grow up to be yourself, that's what your dad would want.
Travel well,
Doug
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B
Trad climber
Oakland, Ca
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TB,
I am sorry to hear of your loss. We all loved and admired your Pop even if we only met him at OR like I did.
John was a true pioneer.
Best wishes and prayers for you and your family and friends.
Billy
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 10, 2009 - 01:29am PT
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Still grieving my friend today so went up to my own little River of Rock by Palomar Mountain to sort things through.
tolman..."for John to have stopped climbing would have been for him to have stopped living."
Werner, "I ain't buying that."
From working with John Bachar, great guy and cool Amigo over the past months this is my perspective.
I think the truth lies in the middle. John was working on making a life transition from the climbing that shaped his life, to a life that would include climbing, but would now be much more focused on Tyrus, Paola, and family.
John was changing his life direction to include a multifaceted scope of goals working to achieve a solid foundation for his loved ones and a future of challenge and new life developement for himself.
So as these ranges seem to go on forever so did John's goals and dreams. It seemed life with JB was not so much about "climbing" as it was creating the rest of his life.
Everyone has told you, Tyrus, how much your Pop loved you...but you know Dude he loved you so much he was changing his life for you.
And Paola, I must tell you that not only did he love you he respected you and that combination makes for a wonderful, forever life.
Transition is complicated and difficult. It involves life change, developement of new attitudes and lots of adjustments. It appeared to me that John was in the midst of all of this. John was in transition for his loved ones and his future.
In my opinion John was in the middle of saying goodbye to one life and beginning another when this tragic accident happened.
If I were superstitious I would say that his rock was a jealous lover... this rock that owned and loved him for so long would just not let him go on to another life.
But that is not true. Some feel we all have a number of days given us and we need to treasure them and love those in our life path. John loved each and every one of you. He made that quite clear. Peace to You All. Lynne
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L
climber
It's a big ol' Moon a talking to my heart now...
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Jul 10, 2009 - 02:09am PT
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What happened to you, Stzzo? You're not yourself...
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marko
Boulder climber
Simi Valley, CA
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Jul 10, 2009 - 04:37am PT
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At one point in the conversation John hung from a slopy slot with one hand about seventy feet off the deck. He never lost the rhythym of the conversation. This was where a lot of so called men would be crying for mama. He casually rotatated at the wrist for a couple of seconds, boned out, taking his time, telling Johnson and me about the Goats, a politically conscious band he dug, and how he had heard about the Swimming Hole.I had seen first hand over the years that the man had gifts, but every time you watched him do his magic it was as though you were alive to hear Coltrane play Giant Steps, or Love Supreme. The man moved like Ballachine with the power of Bruce Lee; only an idiot would'nt be slack jawed by the experience. The man was poetic in life and will be beyond,and his humble graceful movements over the terra will not go unnoticed. He found rhythyms in places only the boldest will ever dare to go, and he committed himself to that ethos completly. He dedicated his soul to the Earth long before he flew from mortals reaches. This was a man who sung a great song that will always ring in the coccles of my heart. Peace and Love Brother, from Marko and Terrill with Great Affection.
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marko
Boulder climber
Simi Valley, CA
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Jul 10, 2009 - 04:51am PT
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Tyrus,
I lost my dad when I was four. It is probably harder for you than it was for me because you are older and knew your dad better. I knew your dad from twenty four years of meeting with him at many different crags, but never got to be as close with him as I would have liked. But I can tell you with complete certainty that your dad encouraged those around him, and he encouraged me. He inspired people and always seemed to me to be an intelligent compassionate man. Peace, marko
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S.Powers
Social climber
Jtree, now in Alaska
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Jul 10, 2009 - 06:39am PT
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Your dad was one of the greatest. I am honored to have climbed with him.
Be strong, like your father!
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Seamstress
Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
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Jul 10, 2009 - 11:50am PT
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Tyrus,
I am so glad that you gave your feelings a voice and shared your feelings about your dad. You had a unique and special relationship with him that no one else shares. Some call him a friend, some call him an icon, and others call him foolish. You are the only one who can call him dad.
It will be impossible to do this at first but please don’t spend too much time trying to understand why he died. It is human nature to try and figure out why, assign blame, and wonder what if. We all will die and leave behind people who need us and love us. It isn’t fair or unfair. It just is. A famous old prayer asks God to grant the serenity to accept the things that I can not change. That can be incredibly hard to do. Just remember that your dad truly wants you to be happy. When the day comes that the grief subsides and some laughter comes, it is not a betrayal of your love for your dad. It is an affirmation. Life is so precious. You need to live and love yours.
In life, we all face difficult times. The true measure of a man is how he deals with the difficult times. You are young to handle such a challenge. Let your dad’s friends help. It is their final gift to him and helps them with their grief. No one can replace your dad. Today many remember him with tears. Tomorrow his memory will bring a smile.
From another who lost too soon
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Eiger
Mountain climber
Zurich, Switzerland
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Jul 10, 2009 - 03:21pm PT
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I hope all the family have now turned up Tyrus and they and you are coping as well as you can together.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 10, 2009 - 08:41pm PT
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Bump from the Leichtfuss Family to Tyrus....from the kiddos all here tonight for Vacation Bible School BBQ and praying for ya Guy. Love from Danny, Reese, Aspen, Joshua, Torrey, Levi and Ethan. (oops!, all here but Levi and Ethan they be in Belgium.)Lynne
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jul 10, 2009 - 11:13pm PT
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hoh man!
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dfrost7
Social climber
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Jul 11, 2009 - 12:55am PT
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Tyrus, your dad - a real star. If not the first, one of the first, names you learn when you start climbing. I know he was for me. What a wonderful thing to be his son. I know you will always be proud of him and all he accomplished. You have so many big brothers, and sisters, who will always be there for you. God bless you.
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dfrost7
Social climber
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Jul 11, 2009 - 01:32am PT
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I'm bumping this up again. i hope no one minds.
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sherry
climber
santa clarita, ca
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Jul 11, 2009 - 09:09am PT
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I am so sorry, truly, we have lost a magnificent light in this world. Don't think of him as gone only climbing the highest mountain peak of all, "Heaven!" God must of needed one more Angel to watch over and guide. My prayers go out to you all.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 11, 2009 - 02:41pm PT
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Tyrus, I am thinking about you especially today. In case you didn't know.....my best friend, my husband, Dan died 18 months ago. I know sorrow and pain and the myriad of feelings that accompany them.
Some people don't believe in God, some say they just don't know. But I know he is there. In my worst moments after Dan died, I tried to find a quiet place and then I just yelled "help" as loud as I could. And it has always come......sometimes right away, sometimes it took awhile to unfold or for me to even recognize it. Crying with you and praying for you today. Lynne
Edit: I just want to add that how we view things.....perspective, is so important and we must again find a quiet place to think about things. I was so angry when Dan died. On the way home from the hospital I pulled into an empty parking lot and literally screamed and raged and cried and beat my steering wheel nigh unto death, at such an unfair, unkind God.
Later my Dad (a physician) said to me, not knowing how I felt, "wasn't it so wonderful that Dan lived to raise all his kids and saw grandkids come into his life. Hardly anyone lives as long as he did after being treated for Hodgkins Lymphoma." Dan lived nearly 30 years after his bout with the disease.
So too Tyrus, I know that on more than one occasion God kept your Dad's life before you were born so you could be born. Can't answer all the deep questions, but sometimes it's good to focus on the good that we do know. Peace, Dude
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville
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Jul 11, 2009 - 03:41pm PT
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Tyrus,
I only talked to your dad a few times but he was always around the same people and places that I frequent.
I posted a few things about your dad that I admired and I always had a great deal of respect for him because of his character and strength.
I don't know if you are interested in motorcycles but, if you ever want to try off-road trail/desert riding or if you would like to go to a Roadrace and hang out in the pits trackside, I would be happy to provide a time and place for this to happen.
I know you are quite a bit North of Ventura County but I participate in Roadraces at Infineon raceway in Sonoma on occasion as well as Mazda raceway in Monterey, Ca.
I have two sons that are young but are good dirt-bike riders and love riding with friends. We have a bike that would fit you if you ever want to go. It's a great sport and not too hard to learn.
Besides bikes, we do alot of climbing so give us a call if you travel South anytime soon and we'll hit some local climbing areas.
Just make sure it's cool with Mom !
-Wayne, Karin, Nate & Eli
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dipper
climber
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Jul 11, 2009 - 08:00pm PT
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Tyrus,
I read about your dad the night before I went for a pack trip into my favorite place, the Sierra Nevada.
Just got back out, lounging at the Dow Villa in Lone Pine.
I thought of you and your dad a lot while out fishing and climbing and taking pictures.
Your dad inspired many,many people to great deeds.
Know that you have a world-wide support network. Lean on us whenever you feel the need.
We all care about you and miss your dad too. even if we never met him.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jul 11, 2009 - 10:07pm PT
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I was wondering if anyone was or could save the threads about John, and the attachments, and the links, in some reasonably permanent format? Can they be saved as screen shots or something, and eventually converted into a CD and given to John's family? There are many stories and photos here, that should be kept together in one place. I suppose they'll be in the bowels of the SuperTopo server, as long as it's running, but that seems a bit unreliable.
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L
climber
It's a big ol' Moon a singing to me now...
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Jul 12, 2009 - 01:55am PT
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Hey Tyrus,
I just realized most of my last post disappeared...so it didn’t make much sense. This is the rest of what I wrote to you:
I think I might understand some of what you’re feeling better than many people do. My dad died when I was 12, also. He died of cancer, and it happened pretty quickly.
I didn’t get to say good-bye to him, and that was really hard. I kept feeling like he was going to come back home, like it was a big joke when they told me he was dead. Even after the funeral it didn’t feel real. But it was.
Then I decided I had to be strong for my mom, because she wasn’t handling it very well, so I was really careful to never let her or anyone see me cry. And I pretended I was all right. And we didn’t talk about my dad, because me and my brothers and sisters didn’t want to see our mom cry. And there wasn’t really anyone to talk to about it—not back when I was twelve years old. So I kept it inside of me, and the hurt never really healed. It just got buried inside, and it got worse. Then one day, finally, I talked to someone about my dad dying, and that’s when I started to feel better...but it took a long time. And I had to cry a lot to make up for all those years I'd held back the tears and pretended I didn't feel anything.
You have so many people around you who loved your dad, and love you, and will be there to listen to you if you need to talk about him. And it’s really good to cry sometimes, too. You might not know what you’re feeling—you might just feel like crying. That’s really good. It means the sadness and hurt is coming up from deep inside of you, and your heart is trying to heal itself. And that’s good...don’t be afraid to cry, or to let people see it. Your feelings belong to you, and they are always right...for you.
You’re really lucky, too, because your dad was part of this very special Forum. He wrote some wonderful things here, and started many great threads. One of the last ones—4th of You Lie—shows how much he cared about other people and social issues. That he thought it important to point out the horrible conditions on the Native American reservations...and then caught grief for posting it. But you could tell he didn’t care who argued with him—he knew it was the right thing to do. You’ll learn a lot about your dad from reading his threads. One day they’ll probably make more sense to you than they do now...and that’s when you’ll be so happy he was part of this Forum. Just as you are.
Goodnight, Tyrus.
Laura
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 12, 2009 - 02:08am PT
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Mighty Hiker, great idea....if no one out there volunteers I will ask my son to see if this is doable. If it is I will ask him to make it happen. Peace tonight to all....especially to John's loved ones and friends. You continue to always be in our thoughts and prayers. lrl
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Jul 12, 2009 - 02:44am PT
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Screen shots seem pretty tedious and unnecessary if I understand this right.
I have cut and pasted all the contributions to another thread onto simple text documents on my hard drive which also preserves their links. Then to be sure, I also downloaded the links.
That method is very fast and easy and preserves both text and photos which can then be added to a CD.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 12, 2009 - 03:29am PT
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So Jan, for my birthday I can get a copy from you ? :D
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Rick A
climber
Boulder, Colorado
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Jul 12, 2009 - 11:11am PT
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Dear Tyrus,
Gerry and I have known your dad since he started climbing in Southern California.
He stayed with us for a few days last March when he came to Boulder for a slide show. We wanted you to know how proud your dad was when he told us about you. We’ll never forget his huge smile when he pulled from his wallet the pictures of you that he carried. He absolutely beamed when talking about you.
We hope to meet you someday. Know that you were much loved by your father, and that you were on his mind, even when he was far away.
Gerry and Rick Accomazzo
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Evel
Trad climber
the cliffs of insanity
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Jul 12, 2009 - 11:38am PT
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Yo Tyrus! My Pop died when I was 13. Really messed me up 'cause he was everything to me. I went down some wrong roads... drugs, booze, etc.. Now, some 32 years later I still miss him and ya know what? It's OK! Yes, real men DO cry. And real men DO have feelings and let them show. Don't hesitate to share your feelings. Keeping it bottled-up only makes it worse. Life will go on. More bad things will happen, but so will a ton of good. You've got Bachar blood in you, and for that you are fortunate. I'd say that fact alone puts you in the top 1%. So hang in there Dude. You've got the support of the entire worlds climbing community, so know that you're not alone in your grief. You ever need anything don't hesitate to give a shout. We'll be there for ya.
Peace little Brother,
Eric Mix
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oldcragster
Gym climber
WA
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Jul 12, 2009 - 02:40pm PT
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tyrus - don't know you but reading all the support all week for you I just couldn't not tell you I'm so sorry and want to express my heartfelt support too. your dad was a friend since mid-70's. last time I saw him was in the gorge over a decade ago. our paths crossed many times and he was always gracious. my thoughts are with you and I marvel at the other expressions so full of concern for you. If Paola is formerly from Truckee, I know her too and likewise pass on my condolence to her also. Lost my first climbing bud - Bill Stall, just months ago, so it is a tough year.
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Roman
Trad climber
Boston
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Jul 12, 2009 - 02:49pm PT
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Tyrus,
Your father was and always will be one of my heroes. He inspired me to dream. His legacy in both Tuolumne and the Valley have been huge factors in my life and his work with Acopa always gave me hope for having my own company one day. I wish the absolute best for you and I will remember your family in my prayers during your time of need. I have no doubts that you too will be just as great in whatever it is that you decide to do with your life.
Stay strong.
Sincerely,
Roman Hunt
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 13, 2009 - 01:58am PT
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So Tyrus,
Many from the campfire are with you and will always be with you. You are never alone. You are as close as a phone call or email to many that loved your Pop... and You... and care about you. Dude, day or night ..... call or write.
(Yo been in my thoughts and prayers all day today.) Peace, and praying dreams of closeness to your Da. lrl
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cleo
Social climber
Berkeley, CA
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Jul 13, 2009 - 02:59am PT
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much love, tyrus...
didn't know your dad well, but found him to be especially pleasant, humble, and good-humored. i'm glad to have met him.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Jul 13, 2009 - 01:07pm PT
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It seems many others are having the same thought.
I kept going back to John's last post in "4th of You Lie" thread and reading it and rereading it. John's last post here at ST was the poem he copied and pasted regarding the conditions of Native North Americans, on July 5th, the day he left us. It is very deep and thoughtful. I can't see how anyone truly can't see the inequalities the Native North Americans face. John showed sympathy for their cause and I'm glad he posted those thoughts.
Saving John's threads: click on John's name hilighted in blue on his last post or any of his posts when you are signed in, and it gives you the option to see all of John's posts with links and in chronological order as he posted, and the number of posts he did here at ST. Obviously, this is true for anyone who posts here at ST.
I would think it would be very important to save this archive. What we post here at ST it does open a small window into our souls. I could tell by John's posts that he cared, and he wasn't afraid to make people think. And as has been noted already, he didn't shy away from contraversial topics or what people might say. I enjoyed that about him, and his presence here, and I sure do miss him. He is an inspiration.
Tyrus, I lost my mother in 1989 when I was in college. It will not be easy. I think about my mother a lot. Not all the time now, as I once did, but often. And sure enough something will happen and the memories are triggered and the tears start to flow. I know she is with me all the time.
Your dad is with you always too. Believe that. You have family and friends, and it is ok to cry when you need to with them, or alone privately. It's ok.
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brugru
Mountain climber
Christiansted, Virgin Islands(via Boulder)
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Jul 13, 2009 - 10:55pm PT
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dude, I'm so bummed for you and sad and crushed. I hope you're ok.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 13, 2009 - 11:52pm PT
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Another Night, T. I be praying and caring....lynne....as I was all day.
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The Wolf
Trad climber
East SF Bay Area
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Jul 14, 2009 - 12:22am PT
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Tyrus, your dad and I saw each other occasionaly in Tuolumne over the years. We never climbed together but over the last couple years became email buddies. Oddly we never talked climbing only baseball and about you and my kids We talked often about getting together and playing some ball with you and and my boys. I sent you, through him a Nolan Ryan DVD after he told me he was your favorite pitcher. I can't express how badly I feel for you. Count me in as someone you can count on.
Jeff (Wolf) Vargen
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 14, 2009 - 01:58am PT
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Not letting your Thread get lost Ty.....Family and especially the young ones so holding you up in prayer. One day at a time, one step at a time with patience and perserverance. Love Ya Guy.
Your Pop will never let you go. Lynne
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Unforgiven
Mountain climber
Dirt
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Jul 14, 2009 - 09:54am PT
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Big T,
Be strong that's how your Dad would want you to be in this hard time.
I'm very sorry for your loss. your Dad was one cool dude
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MisterE
Trad climber
One Step Beyond!
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Jul 14, 2009 - 11:14pm PT
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I can't let this slip - I know you found some support out there.
Still sending good thoughts your way Tyrus. It's been on my mind constantly.
Erik
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Joe Terravecchia
Trad climber
Lebanon, Maine
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Jul 15, 2009 - 12:02am PT
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Tyrus, Just wanted you to know that we're thinking of you. Although I never had the chance to meet your dad, he was and continues to be a great inspiration to me. Wonderful to read postings here from those close to him and know that he was also a proud and loving father. Hold the memories of the good times you spent together closely.
With love from Maine,
Joe Terravecchia
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 16, 2009 - 02:11am PT
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So Tyrus, Dude....thought of my fav pic of your Dad tonight and trying to retrieve it for you. No luck so far but that's ok, will get it done if not tonight....manana. It's the picture he took of himself for the Polish Magazine. One of the best self portraits ever and I am serious about that. A few great artists took or painted in different mediums, self portraits. Your Dad's rocks right up there with the late great Artisimos.
Tyrus, yo Dude, Sincerely every hour of the day and lots of the night you are constantly in my thoughts and prayers. Again, all the Leichtfuss kiddos loving you and remembering you. If you want I may send you their pics here on ST ...think you might like to see the faces of the people that are caring.
Lynne
Peace to you Tyrus, we be caring and praying.... lynne
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 17, 2009 - 12:30am PT
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http://www.wspinanie.pl/serwis/200812/03bachar.php
Maybe this will work. :D
Ok, Tyrus....it WORKED !!!111777 Have you seen this article and picture of your Dad? Love it. Poland was a good trip for John B. Like I said in the last post, your Pop said he took the pic ....self portrait. Cool. So Guy, I sure hope you are weathering this storm...... I've had some emails and phone calls from several of your family members. If you ever feel like it call or mail. Number is in the phonebook. Peace and Prayers, Lynne
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 17, 2009 - 11:51pm PT
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So Ty Dude, feel like a broken record here....but don't feel like giving up. Still thinking about you bro. Last night could not sleep and prayed for you about a bunch of stuff....alot....and still praying. Love and Peace, lynne
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 22, 2009 - 02:00am PT
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Rokjox, great post to Tyrus.....
God in Heaven this has to be one of the most difficult things a young man has to ever deal with in his life. Not dropping the ball here TB....we are here for you and here with you. lynne
Edit: and ya bro, he was a great man and he will be missed.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 23, 2009 - 01:39am PT
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So Ty, not letting it go. I have a great pic of my family for you...just gotta figure out how to scan it. Want to send it to you to show you the people that care about u. They range from ages 3-83. We be caring Dude....even Torrey who is 3 going on 30 calls you "Dude" and cares bout yo and prays for ya too. Peace to you Tyrus Bachar. Live Well and Live Strong. lynne
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 24, 2009 - 03:29am PT
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Tyrus, I think the worst thing for me when Dan died 12/29/07 was that after a while people .... including family and friends just did not talk about Dan anymore.
Never even frickin' mentioned his NAME at Easter which if you're a Christian would be a Good time to mention it.
So Ty Guy, keepin' your thread alive. Know many others are praying for you and thinking about you and your Pop. Peace Dude, lynnie and family.
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valandtyrus
Boulder climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 24, 2009 - 12:03pm PT
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Tyrus,
You were at birth the human being it took me my entire life to become. You are the most amazing person I know. I am so very proud of you.
We will take care of each other.
All my love,
Mom :-)
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Jul 26, 2009 - 01:47pm PT
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Tyrus,
The King is dead. Long live the King.
You are young, but life has decided it is time for you to be a man. The pages of this thread are the pledges of your fathers' loyal subjects. They are offering you the wisdom and riches gained from eons of experience. A smart man learns from experience. A wise man learns from the experience of others.
We all climbed with your father. Like the mountain itself your father was the summit. More so than god, we knew, he had been here before and knew our hopes and fears.
Like the Phoenix, your father rose from the ashes to live again. He did this to consolidate the love and compassion of his grateful followers and to give the gifts of all his wealth to you. That is how great is his love for you.
We weep for your sorrow and mourn the loss of our king. Remember the words and messengers in this thread. They are great and powerful and they are all at your service when you are ready.
"I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. My sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history, naval architecture, navigation, commerce, and agriculture, in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry, and porcelain." -John Adams (2nd u.s. president)"
The King is dead. Long live the King.
Sincerely and with my deepest condolences,
Brook Igleheart
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Muddyboots
Trad climber
NYC/Gunks!
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Jul 27, 2009 - 08:45pm PT
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Tyrus,
I knew your dad a little. I met him in 1982 in camp four. I was trying to do Midnight Lightning and "Some Guy" was watching. I peeled off and said "this is going to take me a while..." Some Guy" was the author of the problem, your dad, and he just grinned and said "Don't Quit!"
I'll never forget that.
Be well!
Muddyboots
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 30, 2009 - 12:03am PT
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Always thinking of you Tyrus and know in my heart of hearts someday all will be well. Email me or call me 24/7 ....seriously. When things settle down there are some things you said at the Memorial that I would like to talk to you about. Peace, Dude and love.....lynne
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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So Tyrus, if I'm still feeling as bad as I am today remembering my husband, my heart goes out to you........We haven't forgotten you Guy. Praying Peace for you today. lrl
Edit: I had to smile just a little at the memorial ..... you said your Dad would get a CD and listen to it over and over and over. I do the same thing. I just got Jeremy Camp's "Carried Me." I think I've played it @ 350 times in a row now and still don't know all the lyrics....:D
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Hi Ty:
I wanted to say that although this thread may start to drift back off the front page, it in no way means that your father has left anyones thoughts or hearts. Tough as it may seem, we all lose loved ones and it's the part of life that sucks. My dad passed away from cancer when I was 18 months old and theres not a damn thing I could have done. Nothing you could have done either. We see bad things happen to good people and its terrible but thats just the way it is. I met your dad a couple of times and he always seemed like a good guy, and as a father myself, I will tell you that I bet there would be little that your dad would have wanted more than for you to live a full, happy and healthy life.
So commit yourself for a full, rich, life, remembering and rejoicing in the time that you had with such a remarkable person.
Wishing you all the best.
Take care
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Tyrus, couchmaster is right on ! When I was and sometimes like yesterday, still am, drowning in grief I remember what your Dad said to me. "Lynne, Dan would want you to live and have adventures not sit around being sad and depressed. Dan would want you to go on and enjoy your life." Ya he would....and so does your Pop, Tyrus. Peace, Lynne
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Thinking of you this morning and praying for you, Tyrus. Sometimes when people leave this planet, the people here stop saying their name.
That happened with Dan. I would go to big family gatherings and no one would say stuff like " I remember when Dan..... ". So I would speak his name. It got to be old, I stopped going to alot of the get togethers.
Tyrus, keep speaking your Dad's name. Even when others don't. Remind them to. Alot of us are keeping him alive in memory and heart by speaking John Bachar's name. Still can't believe he's a III hehehe.
Do you write, Tyrus ? It's good to put your thoughts down on a regular basis. You can look back and also see where you are today.
When I was up in Mammoth I couldn't sleep and wrote a poem called "Bereft" It starts out......Bereft is a good word, It's all loose and dangly, it sounds and feels like loss....
Trade ya poems someday, Tyrus, Peace, Lynne
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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I'd love to read your poems.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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That would be fun. Most are ordinary, but a couple are ok. Some have a jesus theme, hope that's ok.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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It's what's from the heart, that counts. "Jesus is all right with me" if it comes from the real place.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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over the years many have been born/written from a broken heart...that's why I was encouraging Tyrus to write. Sometimes beauty is born from brokeness. Peace, lynnie
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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He could do it.
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climbbjj
Social climber
Tahoe
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Aug 21, 2009 - 10:49pm PT
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Tyrus,
I am very, very late to this thread. The last reply before mine is 2 weeks ago.
It is only today (August 21st) that I have learned of the passing of your father, John Bachar.
You do not know me, nor did your dad. But, I wanted to add some thoughts that you can bet are in the heads of other anonymous climbers and former climbers around the world.
I began climbing 16 years ago at the age of 25. This was 1993, well past the time that John Bachar had passed firmly into legend. Images and stories of his exploits were now inspiring "new generations" of climbers, myself included.
To say that reading about his skill, his power, his mental strength and his dedication was an inspiration is the understatement of all time.
I devoured everything I could get my hands on that contained info about the golden age of climbing. There was not enough written about the dynamic duo John and Ron (Kauk) to placate me. The stories and images drove me to train and climb as hard as I could. I built training equipment in my back yard, a bachar ladder included. I was obsessed.
At the time I lived in the Sierras, which gave me - the fledgling climber - a unique opportunity to trace his footsteps. I can remember my first trip to the Valley as a 6 month newb and being flummoxed as I stood before Midnight Lightning.
Subsequent trips put me dumbfounded at the base of Bachar Yerian (only looking at it, not trying it, of course) Hotline and any number of other legendary lines that I would never be able to complete. Inspiring and absolutely humbling at the same time.
I have visited the boulders that bear your Dad's name, Clark Canyon, Owen's River, The Buttermilks and a ton of other areas up and down the Sierra. A total cliche to say it at this point, but I always felt like I was climbing in the wake of legends such as your Dad.
I had to quit climbing 6 or 7 years ago due to chronic injury that kept me from advancing. In that time I fell out of touch with climbing and stopped reading about it, instead taking up other pursuits.
It is only in the last few weeks I have been considering a return, old injuries now healed and my need to always climb as hard as possible having mellowed. In reading up again about recent happenings I saw the news of JB's passing.
I am so sorry for this, for your loss. If it helps at all, I want you to know your father and what he did, the way he lived and the inspiration he provided to gumbys like me will not be forgotten.
Stay Strong.
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jstan
climber
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Aug 21, 2009 - 10:59pm PT
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Life can be impossibly confusing. Until you go out at dawn and are thankful for the cool fresh air you are able to take in without resistance.
You will have, everything, you truly need.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Aug 22, 2009 - 12:07am PT
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Yeah, and in the evening the soft air flows around you as the sun leaves to rest for a while. The stars take over and appear from the twilight blue and then God says it's ok I'll take care of you. Peace... and I pray for you each and every day Tyrus. lynne
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