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MisterE
Trad climber
One Step Beyond!
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Topic Author's Original Post - May 11, 2009 - 12:15am PT
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Medium Sooze and I were discussing how many possible scenarios we have seen where the climbing guys stop climbing after a relationship. Short of pregnancy, this rarely comes up with the women climbers, we resolved.
Ones we came up with:
Boy meets Climber Girl, they get preggers, climbing career DONE!
Boy meets Girl who says she's a climber, he moves in, they get in nesting mode. Climbing career DONE!
Boy meets non-climbing Girl, they move in together, she becomes the better climber - he gets depressed. Climbing career DONE!
Boy meets Girl, she seems active, but when they move in together, she forbids him to be away with other people (especially if there is another woman there). Climbing career DONE!
Boy meets Girl at climbing gym. She wants to "learn how to climb" and pursues him with great rigor. She gets him.
Climbing career DONE!
There's more
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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May 11, 2009 - 12:27am PT
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bogus categories mang.
how many of said incidents have you actually seen?
no way
most mistake causation for correlation for starters
:?)
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
North of the Owyhees
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May 11, 2009 - 12:27am PT
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Climber does as he damn well pleases,GIRL is DONE!
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AllezAllez510
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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May 11, 2009 - 12:28am PT
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Boy meets climbing girl. Girl dumps boy. Boy starts surfing.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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May 11, 2009 - 12:28am PT
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Boy meets climbing girl. Girl dumps boy. Boy starts [big wall soloing A5].
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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May 11, 2009 - 12:30am PT
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yer insightful, but too cynical!
You've met my daughter, Natalie, Erik. I sorta feel like Sooze has, as well, though it hasn't worked out that way. In any case she IS a climber, on her own terms.
My conclusion; luck into doing it right and it's never 'DONE' and in a best case scenario, like I am attempting to live, you just high five it into another generation.
isn't that how WE got here, E Wolfe?
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AllezAllez510
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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May 11, 2009 - 12:33am PT
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I have two (former) partners who have fallen victim to the nesting instinct.
"Hey, wanna climb on Saturday?"
"Nah, gotta work on the garden with (insert SO name here."
"Nah, we have to have dinner with (insert name of other couple here)"
"Nah, we have tickets to Circque Du Soleil."
I've heard em all.
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
North of the Owyhees
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May 11, 2009 - 12:37am PT
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Poor bastards.
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WBraun
climber
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May 11, 2009 - 12:42am PT
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Girl dumps Tucker many years ago and Tucker starts soloing El Cap routes back to back in his g-string harness.
Girl dumps Shipley and then goes on a "I want to die" free soloing binge.
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10b4me
Ice climber
Rustys Saloon
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May 11, 2009 - 12:43am PT
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single climber guy meets non climber girl. climbing time reduced 50%. They get married, and have a kid, climbing time reduced another 50%. have another kid, and his career is done. . . .at least for another 18 years.
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drljefe
climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
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May 11, 2009 - 01:04am PT
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The social complexities of being
P-Whipped.
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GDavis
Trad climber
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May 11, 2009 - 01:05am PT
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Its not the climbing career thats done, its the HOBBY thats done.
Some guys take being a boyfriend/husband/father as a hobby. young married dudes rarely have hobbies. These aren't true climbers, but people looking to pass the time until they can start shooting out some children with an activity thats fun and provides comradery.
A guy that I know just had his first baby, and his wife told him he wasn't allowed to climb anything that required a rope anymore. He makes a weekly pilgrimage to the bouldering gym, and wishes of bigger things... if you want to keep climbing, better tie your pecker to your leg.
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jewedlaw
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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May 11, 2009 - 01:14am PT
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I'm currently pursuing a girl who doesn't climb.
My Climbing Career is DONE.
See you at the gym.
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MisterE
Trad climber
One Step Beyond!
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Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2009 - 01:34am PT
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Clarification for GDavis:
career: a field for or pursuit of consecutive progressive achievement especially in public, professional, or business life
hobby: a pursuit outside one's regular occupation engaged in especially for relaxation
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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May 11, 2009 - 02:25am PT
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So, you saying, Sewelley, that in the next 18 yrs, yer gonna let just anyone, teach those kids how to climb?
Step up to the plate of life, we're talking responsibility, here!
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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May 11, 2009 - 07:14am PT
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My#2 ice climbing partner got married last summer to a womaN with a kid.
He climbed a grand total of 2 times last winter. Once with me and once with the new wife. The rest of the time the kid had ski races or the wife needed her hubby... yada yada ya.....
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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May 11, 2009 - 08:14am PT
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There's nothing intrinsically important about climbing. It's just something some people choose to do because they like it. And then some of those climbers find other things to do.
I've managed to keep climbing for more than fifty years because I found other things in life, including a non-climbing wife, a daughter, and a ``real'' career that were, in general, more compelling than climbing, and this has allowed me to continue to enjoy climbing too.
One of my observations is that you find out if you really enjoy climbing (as opposed to climbing accomplishments) when you start to lose your peak abilities to the ravages of age.
Personally, I'd hate to have reached my somewhat advanced age and look back on little more than a very long string of ascents...
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
North of the Owyhees
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May 11, 2009 - 08:27am PT
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Now, I don't mind THAT one.....
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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May 11, 2009 - 09:17am PT
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Fun, funny thread.
boy climbs. boy climbs with other boys. all boys begin to pass through various stages of adulthood. some boys fall prey to scenarios mentioned above.
like a game of musical chairs, one falls out each round when the music stops, until one boy is left, climbing.
boy looks around and says "how did I get here?"
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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May 11, 2009 - 09:24am PT
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Climber meet non-climbing girl years younger than he is..
Climber teaches girl to climb and they travel and climb all over the place for years....
Climber marries girl and they have 3 children.
Everyone is toast.....
(This is a true story...)
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drljefe
climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
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May 11, 2009 - 09:25am PT
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I don't like this thread, not one bit.
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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May 11, 2009 - 09:41am PT
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non climber boy meets non climber girl
boy falls in love with girl
girl says she is in love with boy
they get married
girl constantly nags boy
girl does not appreciate anything boy does for her
girl is making boys life a living hell
girl forces boy to beat her to death with a rake
boy takes girls body out to dessert and buries her in a hole
boy discovers Joshua Tree, and becomes a rock climber
boy lives happily ever after
the end
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WhyCantGerbalsDrive
climber
Lee Vining, CA
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May 11, 2009 - 10:37am PT
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girl meets boy,they dig each other and do everything together.
they dont even need other people in their lives
now they are one
they go climbing around the world together
back at home, he falls, the belay fails, they both get
yanked off the cliff and they die
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Jingy
Social climber
Flatland, Ca
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May 11, 2009 - 11:44am PT
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Boy meets girl... she gives the best bj he's ever had... Climbing Career DONE!!!
Sorry ladies...
I say it has nothing to do with the girl... It's up to each of us in all our actions
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drljefe
climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
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May 11, 2009 - 11:46am PT
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Erik
Nuke this thread please
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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May 11, 2009 - 11:50am PT
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If you give up climbing because of a relationship, no matter what the circumstances, you never had a climbing career- you were just a dilettante.
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Vulva, Wyoming
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May 11, 2009 - 12:01pm PT
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Donini should be the guy doing the fortune cookie work instead of Werner.....
If you give up climbing because of a relationship, no matter what the circumstances, you never had a climbing career- you were just a dilettante.
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Gunkie
climber
East Coast US
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May 11, 2009 - 12:34pm PT
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Never, never, never. If any of those scenarios comes to fruition, the man was never a climber.
I'm in hibernation mode right now. I'm married with three kids [13, 10, 7], paying a mortgage, and trying to keep my current job. I'm coaching two little league teams and acting as half of a full time taxi service [ballet, jump rope club, jazz band, concert band, orchestra, little league games, volunteering at the snack stand,...]. However, I'm running a lot and working out regularly to stay within reach of decent climbing shape.
With that said, my best friend in high school and college was a solid climber. He met a chick, got hitched, moved to Texas [why, why, why?], had kids, settled down, gained weight, and I inherited all of his gear. He's done. I have trouble ever considering that we did some serious ascents on Cannon and in the Gunks when not too many people were around climbing. In my mind, he was never a climber. It's not a bad thing, but it's weird....
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Shimanilami
Trad climber
San Jose, CA
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May 11, 2009 - 12:39pm PT
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My wife and I are expecting our second child in September. I told her, "My next big wall will probably be my last, I suppose, with a second kid and all ..."
This triggers a number of unexpected responses: "Don't you need a new rope? Tell me what kind you want and I'll buy it for you ... You should take more time for your end-of-May El Cap trip ... You should schedule another wall for August ... You need to keep climbing, 'cuz when you don't you're an as#@&%e ..."
Wierd.
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quietpartner
Trad climber
Moantannah
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May 11, 2009 - 12:44pm PT
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Sounds like momma has plans when you're gone... ;^)
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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May 11, 2009 - 12:47pm PT
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I'm married with a 4 and 2 year old. I have a full time big-city job. Saturday saw me fuggin sending at Sugarloaf. Well, climbing at Sugarloaf at least.
I've had lulls (the most major one was surfing induced) but have always drifted back into the fold.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Redlands
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May 11, 2009 - 12:52pm PT
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"Relationships Scenarios Where Climbing Career is DONE!"
All of em, eventually.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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May 11, 2009 - 01:29pm PT
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On the way back home from yet another kick-ass caving trip in the Roppel Cave section of the Mammoth Cave System. We were underground 28 hours and discovered, explored and surveyed another thousand feet of passage - woo-hoo!
But I just *HAD* to answer this one.
This was me:
"Boy meets Girl, she seems active, but when they move in together, she forbids him to be away with other people (especially if there is another woman there). Climbing career DONE!"
You're young and stupid, and you find someone who you think really 'loves' you. So you marry her. You don't realize that love doesn't have much to do with feelings, and that love is as much volitional as it is emotional. For instance, I believe that love is something you DO for someone when you don't FEEL like loving them.
My ex-wife just couldn't stand me climbing and caving. She felt very unloved when I was away. We fought before and after almost every trip. She would not negotiate any deals, either, which is a pity, as she could have nailed me for all sorts of schwag. I'd have given her anything just to let me go climbing.
My career was almost over. I tried to keep climbing, but it was really hard. You'd get out with your friends, but be unable to keep up because you didn't have the strength you need, that you get when you're climbing all the time. In 12 years of marriage, I got up El Cap only once.
Anyway, she eventually came to her senses and dumped me. And thus began my Post-Divorce Renaissance.
One El Cap route before, 35 El Cap routes after.
You do the arithmetic.
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Robb
Social climber
It's like FoCo in NoCo Daddy-O!
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May 11, 2009 - 01:50pm PT
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Boy meets Sweet Shop girl
Says forget rocks
Still with the Ice Queen to this day.NO REGRETS!
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susan peplow
climber
www.joshuatreevacationhomes.com
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May 11, 2009 - 02:21pm PT
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Sewellymon quotes & responds to:
"10B4E WROTE,
"single climber guy meets non climber girl. climbing time reduced 50%. They get married, and have a kid, climbing time reduced another 50%. have another kid, and his career is done. . . .at least for another 18 years. "
AMEN Welcome to my world"
As I've heard many times before I believe the exact quote from the wife went, " NO MORE WALLS JEFF".
Climbing career DONE!
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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May 11, 2009 - 02:34pm PT
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"Y'all make it seem like there is nothing but a bunch of dependent breeders out there. "
Ya'll haven't dated much lately, have you? It is very, VERY difficult to find a woman who is passionate about ANYTHING! Seriously. How can I expect a woman to understand something that I am passionate about, or working a crack until you puke, etc. if she has nothing that she is herself passionate about. Shopping, buying starbucks, spending $200 on jeans, etc. doesn't count. End result is a lot of serious climbers are mostly single.
And since when should any person presume to be able to tell another person, married or not, what they can and cannot do? Someone telling me I can no longer do walls, etc. can get f*#ked! I can't be with you if I can't respect you and you don't respect me. People who are passionate about something and have a life and don't think their happiness depends upon someone else understand this.
There's more to life than looking pretty and doing nothing. And for married peeps, there's more to life than throwing your kids at every sport/event there is because you have no life yourself.
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
North of the Owyhees
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May 11, 2009 - 02:54pm PT
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Gerbils are too SHORT to drive..........
No worries about competing in Breeder's Cup.
FAR too weird.
SheepaBunga! Some kinda "bunga".
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 11, 2009 - 03:22pm PT
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LOL
Donini nails it.
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GhoulweJ
Trad climber
Sacramento, CA
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May 11, 2009 - 03:23pm PT
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Boy marries girl.
Girl does not climb.
Girl came with 4 kids.
Boy quits climbing to raise the herd.
Kids move out.
Boy teaches girl to climb.
Boy and girl climb el cap together.
Boy and girl love to climb with each other.
I need time to go by to fill in the rest.
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matisse
climber
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May 11, 2009 - 03:25pm PT
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Boy meets Girl. Girl wants to "learn how to climb" and pursues him with great rigor. Girl gets boy. Girl learns to climb. Boy becomes jealous pain in ass. Girl punts Boy. Next contestant. Girl dates better climber.
barf. I can't believe i posted in this thread.
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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May 11, 2009 - 03:33pm PT
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I met this chicken.... she climbs hard than I do... err.. did... err... can.. um.. whatever.
THE END.
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merciless use of sarcasm and puns
climber
slums of London in 1929
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May 11, 2009 - 03:58pm PT
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This is the exact kind of sh#t I have come to expect from this group.
You can go climb with or without your significant other. If that said person forbids you, then f*#k him/her. Why sacrifice? And go find another reason for why your climbing career is done.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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May 11, 2009 - 04:04pm PT
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But, without a significant other, who's gonna wash those wadded up panties of yours?
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Porkchop_express
Trad climber
the base of the Shawangunk Ridge
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May 11, 2009 - 04:28pm PT
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I told my wife long before getting married that climbing isnt something I'd give up for anyone under any circumstances so long as I found it fulfilling, but if she didnt dig it she could climb with me or not as she pleased.
We got married 5 months into a climbing road-trip and things are still good. Its all about what and how you prioritize. If someone is going to make you sacrifice who and what you are, regardless how good their intentions might be, they likely arent right for you for a whole slew of reasons besides ending your climbing career.
Don't mistake the symptom for the disease.
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merciless use of sarcasm and puns
climber
slums of London in 1929
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May 11, 2009 - 04:36pm PT
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But, without a significant other, who's gonna wash those wadded up panties of yours?
If you are that lazy to wash your wadded up knickers...maybe you shant wear them at all
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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May 11, 2009 - 04:36pm PT
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Last year a young climber asked me for some advice concerning girlfriends. I said that, given the fact that i had been married three times, perhaps I wasn't the best source, but he persisted. Seems that he and his friends were wondering, as I once did, whether it was best to look for a girlfriend who climbed or one who didn't climb. I said that I could never figure that one out myself, but if he was after one who climbed to make sure she had green camalot hand size because she would be able to get the rope up on cracks he wouldn't be able to climb.
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paganmonkeyboy
climber
mars...it's near nevada...
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May 11, 2009 - 06:16pm PT
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it's a story as old as the cowboy and the stripper...;)
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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May 11, 2009 - 06:26pm PT
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fatty... didn't you get the news. I found another CSlut.
memo... check the memo!
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MtnKit
Trad climber
Vista, CA
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May 11, 2009 - 06:30pm PT
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Girl climbs in the 70's. Girl meets boy. Falls in love, gets married, has six children. He doesn't want her to climb -- if she falls and dies, he raises the 6 kids. That's fair. She still has the best life ever, and when the youngest is 14 she starts to climb again. What a great thing! Joshua Tree, Tahquitz, Yosemite, Sierras!! And come home to my fantastic family.
BTW, my son just took me on Tahquitz for Mother's Day, where we simulclimbed three easy routes for speed. Car to car, including friction descent and walk-around, about 6 hrs. Kicked my butt for sure.
Thank you, GDavis, you are an awesome son!
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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May 11, 2009 - 06:46pm PT
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MtnKit - best story in a long time on the taco. Welcome!
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susan peplow
climber
www.joshuatreevacationhomes.com
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May 11, 2009 - 06:55pm PT
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Oh, don't get me wrong. Lots of stories for us ladies!!
I was suppose to start a different thread of a similar theme but haven't gotten around to it.
All these guys seem to think it would be easy for a girl to find a guy who climbs but in reality.... NOT!
Aint that right Crimpie?
Thead to follow....
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T2
climber
Cardiff by the sea
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May 11, 2009 - 07:10pm PT
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Boy meets (hot) girl
first date boy tells (hot) girl that boy is in love with something called climbing and will be gone periodcally sometimes for the weekend sometimes for a couple of weeks maybe even a whole month from time to time.
boy marries girl in El Cap meadow then runs off to do half dome with best man.
boy now has a lovely teenage daughter and been married 18 years.
Just this past month boy has done 3 routes in Zion
My climbing may take a back seat every now and then but it will never be DONE until I am DONE.
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
North of the Owyhees
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May 11, 2009 - 07:12pm PT
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Ain't got no "knickers"........OH,NO!!!
TMI!!!!!
Like I said at first, I'll do as I will.
Let the chips fall where they may.
I like your story, T2.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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May 11, 2009 - 07:15pm PT
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I completely agree. It's not as easy as people think...
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Bart Fay
Social climber
Redlands, CA
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May 11, 2009 - 07:24pm PT
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Yes, great story MtnKitten and great comeback.
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Katie_I
Mountain climber
Wyoming
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May 11, 2009 - 07:53pm PT
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And then there's Jane Austen's rhetorical question for women, "What are men compared to rocks and mountains?" (Pride and Prejudice)
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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
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May 11, 2009 - 07:59pm PT
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Crimpie and Susan, agree it is not at all easy for us gals!!!
ok...
Non-climber girl (but skydives) meets non-climber boy (jump pilot), get married, have two kids.
Girl notices climbers while up hiking in Idyllwild and Josh and the desire to climb swoops down. She asks husband if she can take lessons to learn to climb.
He says, "No, your first job is to be a wife and mother".
Girl discouraged until one day indoor gym opens up in town, now's her chance.
Eventually dumps husband who is control freak and spends from 1992 till present climbing and loving it.
Girl out in climber dating world, sucks badly.
Present: girl meets super athletic/adventurous guy and is teaching him to climb, he is excelling.
Girl happy!!!!
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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May 11, 2009 - 08:02pm PT
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"And then there's Jane Austen's rhetorical question for women, 'What are men compared to rocks and mountains?' (Pride and Prejudice)"
Hahaha.
Nice literary allusion in the land of the post-literate.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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May 11, 2009 - 08:15pm PT
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Ho, mtnkit, you get a prize!
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spud
climber
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May 11, 2009 - 08:17pm PT
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Girl meets Boy
Girl has done some climbing, likes it OK, but likes to ski more than climb
Girl and Boy like to backpack and ski
Girl and Boy get married
Girl and Boy have daughter
Girl and Boy backpack and ski with daughter
Family moves to Chicago
Daughter grows up, turns 18
Girl says to Boy, "lets go climbing!"
Girl and Boy travel west of the Mississippi
Girl climbs and climbs and climbs
Sometimes Girl climbs with Boy
But Boy needs to work so Girl can go on climbing trips out West
Daughter learns to climb
Girl and Daughter climb and climb and climb and backpack and backpack
Boy REALLY needs to work to support Girl's climbing obsession
BOY MUST WORK! Boy does join Girl on occasion for ski, backpack and climb fun.
GIRL HAS IT MADE!
Girl and Boy still really love each other, been married for 29 years. One of the marriage vows was, "We'll go our separate ways together." For us it's worked. Love you, spousal unit!
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MisterE
Trad climber
One Step Beyond!
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Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2009 - 08:36pm PT
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Great stories and observations!
"Donini really nailed it" - agreed.
So many other good posts!
Thanks!
looking forward to the thread Sooze...
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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May 11, 2009 - 09:49pm PT
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Interesting Thread. ..... Everybody's story is different. I agree too with Donini's post 5/11.
Fo Yo: Guy and Gal meet in late teens, get married and bounce out two babies.
Gal's Bro turns her Hub onto Rock.
While Dude puts himself through college plus working he makes time to get betta at the Rock.
Climbing persists while two more kiddos enter family.
Hub gets good at climbing and says to Wife.....tired of going to the crags alone. Time to join me.
Terror of heights stricken wife freaks but finally consents to go.
She meets tons of Super people and has lots of cool trips. Climbs only when pushed.........
Years later. Hub dies, her fear of heights greatly diminished, and climbing becomes super fun and important.
Life....live it....a thoughtful, joyous day at a time. Yo never know what it will deliver :DD
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tenesmus
Trad climber
slc
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May 11, 2009 - 10:30pm PT
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My wife 'lets' me climb. But mostly because she knows I'd go insane without it. Its my most effective form of stress management and I usually go before work when they're asleep anyway.
But then she gets to work out for her triathlons all the time too. Its a good tradeoff.
Our 4 kids seem to love doing it all with us too.
dang that makes me sound so old.
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susan peplow
climber
www.joshuatreevacationhomes.com
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May 11, 2009 - 10:34pm PT
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Boy is a weekend warrior spending 20 weeks or better a year out climbing. Boy meets girl at local climbing club, she's a recent graduate looking for experience. 2 years of dating, weekend trips and climbing and all is well. Boy and Girl marry. Boy climbs 2 days a year (in-consecutive days) a year now.
That's a lot like PPP's but true.
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enjoimx
Big Wall climber
SLO Cal
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May 11, 2009 - 11:13pm PT
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"Boy meets Girl. Girl wants to "learn how to climb" and pursues him with great rigor. Girl gets boy. Girl learns to climb. Boy becomes jealous pain in ass. Girl punts Boy. Next contestant. Girl dates better climber. "
That happened to me! hahaha
Heres one....
Boy meets boy. Boy has great time climbing with boy. During an epic, boy spoons boy to stay alive. Boy falls in love with boy. Boys move to Connecticut to pursue legal gay marriage and continue climbing together forever?
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murcy
climber
San Fran Cisco
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May 11, 2009 - 11:26pm PT
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Wifey doesn't complain about my climbing. It's more that I realize that the climbing is just for me, and that I'm making things harder for them (probably a false sense of my own indispensibility), and I limit it myself probably more than she'd do. But as the kid is now an increasingly self-sufficient teen who likes my company in smaller and smaller doses, I hope to be spending lots more time on rock. I think she'll be okay with that.
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yosguns
climber
San Francisco, CA
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May 11, 2009 - 11:52pm PT
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So...let's say you find that climbing PARTNER. What then?
Lots of scenarios mentioned...but every stage has its ups and downs, right?
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Lissiehoya
climber
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May 12, 2009 - 01:10am PT
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Dirka sent me the link to this and all I could think was, "What poor timing!" He's already not happy since I'm moving to a flat part of the country to pursue my PhD.
However, I did feel better after reading through everyone's stories. Seems to me that if you find the right person, climbing will find the right place in your life as well.
Oh, and Lazy Eye, I'm going to keep this in mind: "Many years ago, my mother told my wife some very worthwhile advise, 'When it comes to Robert, just don't ask him what he's planning on doing, just ask him about what he's already done, that way you never have to worry about him.'"
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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May 12, 2009 - 11:28am PT
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I don't know, it's a "waxes and wanes" sort of thing...
when I met Debbie in 1973 I was climbing, but not much...
went off to graduate school in NY City with her, had a daughter
started climbing more in 1979
started ice climbing in the early 80s
started going to bigger mountains in the mid 80s
Debbie doesn't climb, Stephanie doesn't climb, but they're ok with me climbing (as far as I can tell)...
what year is it, 2009? that would be 37 years?
I've met and climbed with many women in that time too...
It seems to work out as Richard said, but for me it is a dynamic thing which will oscillate between the loci of my life: family, work, climbing... recently it has been climbing...
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nutjob
climber
Berkeley, CA
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May 12, 2009 - 02:27pm PT
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Boy meets girl
Boy takes girl climbing, but
Boy forgets harness, shoes, and belay device
Boy improvises a sling harness and biner brake, climbs in Converse All-Stars
Girl gets blisters on hands holding a fall, 'cuz boy didn't build the biner break correctly!
Boy marries girl.
Boy tries again on 9-day Tuolumne camping trip...
Loads car with everything except the bag of clothes,
they have a dirt-loving trip, boy thinks he has a keeper
Boy takes her for a "hike" up Lembert Dome, too close to the steep side
Girls feet are sliding, can't go up, can't go down, falling would be death
Girl and boy survive, but girl formally retires from climbing
(Boy acknowledges he is an idiot)
Life goes on, boy must choose climbing vs. girl
Boy not happy giving up either
Stuff happens, life gets complicated,
More stuff happens, boy and girl part ways, life gets simple again
(and boy at least knows what he wants in a life companion)
Boy takes his kids on weekends to Indian Rock,
and dreams of future Yosemite trips
Boy finds another girl who is wonderful and compatible in every way,
and she also turns out to be a kick-@ss climbing babe!
Boy continues to have occasional misadventures with his buds,
and also have cool adventures with his babe.
The long road leads to a good place.
Or is the place made good because of what was learned on the long road?
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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May 12, 2009 - 02:42pm PT
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boy climber meets girl climber
boy climber is married
boy climber sprays slews of sexual innuendos to girl climber
girl climber is not interested
boy climber continues with innuendos
boy climber suggests he and girl climber camp overnight together and get an early start climbing the next day
girl climber falls for it and agrees
boy climber....forgets....his sleeping bag on the 35degree night
girl climber sees her friend happiegrrrl, camped nearby in her van
girl climber explains situation
happiegrrl offers girl climber a spot in her van. with no sexual innuendos
both girls wait for boy climber to come knocking on the door
happiegrrl throws Teddy's sleeping bag out the door at boy climber
Teddy gives boy climber the stinkeye
girls get in their sleeping bags in van
Teddy curls up in between, content
boy wonders where it all went wrong.
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enjoimx
Big Wall climber
SLO Cal
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May 12, 2009 - 02:51pm PT
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I hope teddy is a dog
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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May 12, 2009 - 02:53pm PT
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teddy, in his sleeping bag
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MisterE
Trad climber
One Step Beyond!
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Topic Author's Reply - May 12, 2009 - 02:53pm PT
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picture in 10, 9, 8 ....
Edit: Damn, she's fast. posted in the same minute...
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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May 12, 2009 - 02:54pm PT
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hahahah
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nutjob
climber
Berkeley, CA
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May 12, 2009 - 02:57pm PT
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Ahh, the classic "I forgot my sleeping bag" trick. Nice.
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Tomcat
Trad climber
Chatham N.H.
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May 12, 2009 - 04:48pm PT
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If Peregrins can do it on the cliff,so can we....
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Eric Beck
Sport climber
Bishop, California
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May 12, 2009 - 06:37pm PT
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This inverts the originall premise of a relationship ending climbing.
I know of multiple instances of couples wherein one takes up climbing and the other doesn't. Within 6 months they are no longer a couple. This is not gender dependent.
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Dirka
Trad climber
SF
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May 13, 2009 - 01:29am PT
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Why is my girl so special...
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Lissiehoya
climber
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May 13, 2009 - 12:13pm PT
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Dirka, don't be sweet...
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DJS
Trad climber
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May 13, 2009 - 02:47pm PT
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If any guy has to stop climbing due to a relationship for any reason then he is clearly a short shighted idiot. If you can't read the signs well enough to know pursuing a relationship with somone may detract from climbing or end it all together then you may want to stop climbing now. Because you are the type of moron who will lead a group of people over a cliff due to bad route finding, thread a Gri Gri backwards, use one piece anchors, swear the groaning flaking ice is thick enough, wear cotton in snowstorms, use 10 year old ropes, scoff at avalanche beacons, run your engine for the heat while sleeping in your car, re-use old brake fluid, never clean your guns and constantly has to fix all the sh#t breaking in your life because you don't maintain it but still wonder why everyhting is falling apart.
If you are reading this and it sound familiar please stop what you are doing and immediately get a vasectomy, you are a danger to yourself and others.
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jenren
Trad climber
Sac, CA
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May 13, 2009 - 03:55pm PT
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Boy meets girl....girl has boatload of children
Boy helps raise them..
Boy sighs..kids are FINALLY gone
Boy gives girl (now wife of 10years) climbing gear for birthday..
Boy and girl summit El Cap late 08....
Ah the love stories : D
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