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SGropp
Mountain climber
Eastsound, Wa
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May 11, 2009 - 12:50am PT
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Does anyone remember who it was that said:
" Climbing would be such a great and noble endeavor if it wasn't
for all that damn climbing ! "
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2009 - 01:50pm PT
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SGropp- Sounds like Batso to me!
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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May 11, 2009 - 03:53pm PT
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Sounds like Batso to me!
Nope. Harding made the line famous (in Downward Bound), by quoting someone else, but didn't originate it. I'll probably be able to find the name tonight, but our office library is completely filled with a bunch of stupid books about airplanes, and doesn't have a climbing section at all. If you've got DB you can check it out, otherwise I'll try to find it when I get home.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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May 11, 2009 - 08:38pm PT
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Salathe made his famous remark during a meeting of the RCS, when members were battling over the proper institutionalization of iron-mongery: What was permitted, what wasn't, would climbers be certified, etc.
"Vy can't ve chust climb?"
So slightly different remark, but remarkably similar context.
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scuffy b
climber
Bad Brothers' Bait and Switch Shop
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May 11, 2009 - 08:58pm PT
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Dang, I thought it was Roper.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 20, 2009 - 10:30am PT
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Bump for all that damn climbing!!!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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May 20, 2009 - 10:50am PT
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I think that the occasional self-bump for a CLIMBING thread is a-okay.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 29, 2009 - 09:29pm PT
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I occasionally bump myself while climbing...Who hasn't?!? LOL
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east side underground
Trad climber
Hilton crk,ca
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Jun 30, 2009 - 12:12am PT
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murry, its okay to bump yourself while climbing as long as it's not rubbing yourself while climbing. Say no more!
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jstan
climber
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Jun 30, 2009 - 01:36am PT
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Recently we watched Everest:Beyond the Limit which is a filmed account of a
commercial trip up Everest run by Russell Brice out of NZ. I thought the
production very interesting.
I had not realized climbers are being forced to stand for hours in lines of
twenty or thirty waiting to get up the ladders near the summit. 42nd street it
isn't. A change in weather can leave dozens of dead. But that is not what really
got my attention.
The sherpas got my attention. In one go they carried the supplies to rig fixed
lines all the way to the summit, fixed the mountain, and came down the same
day. Over ground the paying climbers would take weeks to traverse. In their
spare time the sherpas went up early to set up each camp, carried the supplies,
and then they cooked all the meals.
It is embarrassing. How can anyone go on such a thing without being
embarrassed to death?
We can't be that far from returning to the use of sedan chairs. Eh?
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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Jun 30, 2009 - 01:50am PT
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Jstan, I might still be able to get up the big E if the Sherpas would carry me in one of those old chairs! Chai Sahib? Going summit, Sahib?
On the matter of Reinhold's character, back in the 70's, 80's and 90's I used to run in to him at climbing affairs or far-flung basecamps and got to talk with him several times about the meaning of climbing and life and so on. I always found him to be attentive to my perspective (which really wasn't too far from his, to be honest). He was never bombastic in my experience. We just talked climber to climber, comparing notes and ideas.
-Jello
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Melissa
Gym climber
berkeley, ca
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Jun 30, 2009 - 01:55am PT
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Thanks for posting this, Steve. I've heard the title bandied about since I started climbing, but never actually read the article.
While I'm partial to climbing w/ more than just my belay anchors, I appreciate his sentiment and am always impressed by them that find the most devious routes.
As for changing times...
People did harder things by bolting the direct. And now it's harder not to. So what's old is new and "ground breaking." Thank goodness. For now.
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GDavis
Trad climber
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Jun 30, 2009 - 02:39am PT
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Again a great find, Steve. Your contributions to this site are appreciated largely, and often!
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 2, 2009 - 09:53pm PT
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Praise for a "dick", interesting...Bump!
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Ray Olson
Trad climber
Imperial Beach, California
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yes Steve,
great stuff.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 24, 2010 - 08:49pm PT
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The Bump of Impossibilty!
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bmacd
Trad climber
Grade V, Level III certified KooK 100% Canadian
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Sep 24, 2010 - 10:49pm PT
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Messner is brilliant and the grand sum total of all his achievements are unequaled by anyone in my humble and uninformed opinion
Just finished reading Jon Krakauer's "Into thin Air" last night, even in a sedan chair 8000m mountaineering is beyond serious.
Bonus points to Reinhold for his work on the Yeti/Sasquatch mystery
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Sep 25, 2010 - 12:09am PT
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Dingus....good analysis on reinhole.....i heard he quit using toilet paper because it was cheating and followed a directissema...? Skipt....sorry you were dissed by the Nazi...maybe you would have been a liberal if not for that brow beating...? rj
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2011 - 01:49pm PT
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Messner Bump!
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Ain't no flatlander
climber
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Rad, that wasn't his expedition. He was just a low-man on the totem pole for his first 8000er.
Say what you want about him but Messner is still the only person who has soloed Everest. Can't get much better style than that ascent.
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