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T2
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Cardiff by the sea
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The Beach boys were Great. One of the things my father gave me growing up was his influence in good music. There was always Beach boys in the house. We still share a common interest in musical taste. My old man is 68 (i think) and about 4 or 5 years ago we saw Black Sabbath (the original line up)together. Cool times indeed! Thanks for the tune Largo.
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dogtown
climber
Cheyenne,Wyoming
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Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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they got a box that puts you in tune now.
sounds like sh#t.
to hear it, listen to just about any song on KFUK Kuntry 106 that has a harmony vocal, which is 100 opercent.
it's called Autotune, and the engineers love it because it can make anybody sound in tune, no matter how wasted they are, or how terible a vocalist they are.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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three years ago, i scored a ticket to tirol and bavaria in the shoulder season.
i landed in salzburg and wandered around looking at the obvious musical and poetic landmarks, waiting for the mountains to clear.
contemorary art, crowds of foreign music students with cases in the streets, the opera house (my destinatino) closed for remodeling. i blundered into the old church while the organist and a choir were rehearsing for an upcoming performance for the music festival.
couldnt id the piece, not the music of my youth, training, or libido, but unf*#king real nonetheless. i got a really good sense of how gothic and baroque churches actually worked bitd.
the place frickin rocked.
and it was empty, save for me and an errant nun.
then, after they'd run their numbers and the choir quit singing, the organist guy went all aggro on the emnpthy house and started pushin the pipes to the limit including pieces of -- ikiduknott-- iron butterfly.
frickin austrians.
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AndySan Diego
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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I saw the post. I thought CSN&Y But love the Beach Boys as well. Thanks for posting the vids Largo.
Carry On.....
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Fletcher
Trad climber
the end of the world as we know it, & I feel fine.
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Everything But the Girl is awesome.
Tracy Thorn also did some pretty awesome guest tracks with Massive Attack.
Eric
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Erik of Oakland
Gym climber
Oakland
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Simon and Garfunkel did all right
Gary Louris and Mark Olson harmonize superbly
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Traditional choirs that do classical music, a conductor, etc often have superlative harmonies.
If we're talking about the 1960s and harmony in pop/rock, most everyone deferred to the Beach Boys, except toward the end with CSN&Y. Many Motown acts were also very very good.
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Willoughby
Social climber
Truckee, CA
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Seems we started to cover some good ground a few weeks back in this thread here, but got a bit tangled up in politickering.
And for best harmonizing/best band you're never heard of crossover potential, I gotta give it up for my own fledgling band: Üncle Rïco!!!!
Oooh, and here's my favorite song about shooting a bear in the arse:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT5kU-Ff0s0
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Rick L
Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
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Any Everly Brothers song. I lived in a small town in central Florida as a kid in the 1950's. The harmonies of the Everly Brothers ["All I Have To Do Is Dream", "Till I Kissed Ya", "Cathy's Clown", "When Will I Be Loved?" etc.]were piped over the loudspeakers at the summer Fairs and the memories of the harmonies are indellible. Seems like much can be traced to these boys- a link between Nashville/Gospel and Folk/Rock.
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dmalloy
Trad climber
eastside
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for the last few years, I have found myself captivated whenever The Wailin Jennys pop up on Prairie Home Companion or in various films and tv shows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wS_mop0emw
The have a great "happy" song about "the littlest birds sing the prettiest songs" - could not find that on the youtube. Anyhow, amazing voices, and they have been singing together a long time.
More Canadians, too, eh?
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D'Wolf
climber
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Sep 30, 2010 - 08:32am PT
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The "Celtic Women" aren't half bad; actually, they're voices are awesome. Not music for everyone, but that's not the question here. Haven't taken the time to learn how to post links but they're easy to find on YouTube.
T.
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Sep 30, 2010 - 09:29am PT
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Wailin Jennys
Indigo Girls
The Elders
 all great with tight harmonies!
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TMO
Trad climber
Puyallup, WA
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Sep 30, 2010 - 10:56am PT
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This has always been one of my favorites.... just found out that it is the Beach Boys singing the harmonies on this. Now that I know I can totally hear them, can't believe I didn't figure it out myself!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HhDAKuROEA
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Sep 30, 2010 - 10:59am PT
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The Eagles weren't too shabby in this department.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Sep 30, 2010 - 11:04am PT
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Don't step on The Roches!!! Unless you wanna go back to Hammond!
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Sep 30, 2010 - 11:41am PT
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Seldom Scene aren't half bad either
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Allison Kraus and Union Station/ Soggy Bottom Boys
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Allen Hill
Social climber
CO.
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The Louvin Brothers. Buck Owens and Don Rich. Gram Parsons and Emmylou Harris. I like old country music as one can tell.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Don't know how I missed this the first time around, but I'll throw my vote in with Mooser for the Indigo Girls.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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The essence of harmonic singing has been elevated to a higher standard, in the "new" version of what is called barbershop harmony. The defining characteristic of the barbershop style is the ringing chord. This is a name for one specific and well-defined acoustical effect, also referred to as expanded sound, the angel's voice, the fifth voice, or the overtone.
it occurs when the upper harmonics in the individual voice notes, and the sum and difference frequencies resulting from nonlinear combinations within the ear, reinforce each other at a particular frequency, strengthening it so that it stands out separately above the blended sound. The effect is audible only on certain kinds of chords, and only when all voices are equally rich in harmonics and justly tuned and balanced.
The precise synchrony of the waveforms of the four voices simultaneously creates the perception of a "fifth voice" while at the same time melding the four voices into a unified sound.
Many great musicians have barbershop harmony in their background.
An example of this amazing harmony can be heard in the 2009 international quartet champions, Crossroads, made up of four guys all of whom were previous champions in other groups. In the following clip, they sing a song called "That Lucky Old Sun", and this performance is the highest rated song in competition, ever. The note held by the tenor for 25 sec near the end is nothing short of amazing.
To bring it full circle, the latest album released by Brian Wilson is titled "That Lucky Old Sun"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7mGjSZpdpk
To see the Barbershop harmony singing process laid on top of a Chorus format, here are the 2007 international champions, doing their championship performance. I guarantee that you've never seen/heard anything quite like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rohlIKJHNZk&feature=related
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Take 6 on the song REVELATION..a spiritual...if this song doesn't get your rear in gear , you are on AWA juice...and of course the BAND on take the load off danny...rj
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Melissa
Gym climber
berkeley, ca
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I had and then, sadly, lost a CD called Red, Hot, and Country that included a rendition of Teach Your Children Well done by CSN and Suzy Boggus, Alison Kraus, and Kathy Mattea...some of my favorite harmonizing ever.
The Cox Family does some of my favorite bluegrass harmonies.
But there's nothing like sitting in a theater or church listening to a hundred voices do eight part harmony. No recording can ever create that.
Better yet...to be one of the voices and feel it "click". It's like clipping the anchors after your hardest handcrack effort ever at Indian Creek...all simple and hard at the same time. Perfect.
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Daphne
Trad climber
Mill Valley, CA
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Posting from Hardly Strictly Bluegrass festival, Rooster stage
Just heard indigo girls. Their harmonies are deeply nourishing. Anyone else at the festival?
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TimH
Trad climber
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Steeleye Span (English traditional) is very good, particulary on "Gaudete". Although the Medieval Babes aren't bad either.
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coondogger
Trad climber
NH
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#1 Keith RIchards. Simply the grittiest and most organic harmonizing/backup by any of the rock and rollers in the history of rock.
#2 Emmylou with anyone.
#3 Eagles
#4 Delaney and Bonnie
#5 Al Green and Lyle Lovett
#6 BB King and Bobby Blue Bland
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Daphne, I was going, but the long drive from LA, combined with a cold caused me to pass. :(
I've recently found that David Grisman and his musicians are based up there, and often perform in the area.
And here is another venue of harmony, Keith Terry's body music, also based out of SF, that is amazing. I was at this performance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCltR3kAYI0
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Oct 12, 2010 - 01:00am PT
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For my Canadian friends, I totally forgot about Ian and Sylvia Tyson. I learned how to harmonize from them.
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Fuzzywuzzy
climber
suspendedhappynation
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Oct 12, 2010 - 12:07pm PT
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The Mills Brothers set the standards forever.
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troutboy
Trad climber
Newark, DE
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Oct 12, 2010 - 01:15pm PT
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Three more that have not yet been mentioned:
Daley and Vincent (although someone did mention Doyle Lawson, which would include 1/2 of Daley and Vincent)
Ladysmith Black Mombasa
The Story (since broken up)
TS
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Kalimon
Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
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Paul and Art have quite the cosmic overlap in their respective vocal gifts . . . especially in the early years of the duo.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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All of those nights we harmonized until dawn
ironic, as S & G split immediately afterwards
Jayhawks (Olson/Louris) got it right. Everly Bros. And of course, Gram/Emmylou.
Beach Boys edit: Pet Sounds. All you need to know about harmony.
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Chief
climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
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What a great thread!
An eclectic variety of mentions and examples.
Ditto for:
Emmylou and Gram
Doyle Lawson and the Bluegrass Album Band
Doyle Lawson and Quicksilver
Seldom Scene
Bluegrass in general!
The Tuvanese throat singers
The Dixie Chicks
Etc.
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jfailing
Trad climber
Lone Pine
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The Fleet Foxes have some pretty chilling harmonies...
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Tung Gwok
Mountain climber
South Bend, Indiana
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Just to brag: I saw the Beach Boys and CSNY together in concert; first one, then the other, then together. 1974 (I think). Milwaukee. Harmony Central.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Moby Grape!
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Willoughby
Social climber
Truckee, CA
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Oct 27, 2011 - 03:00pm PT
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Here's a nice duet between Chris Thile and Aoife O'Donovan last night. Not exactly unique harmonies, but nice dynamics, a really tight performance, and I like how Thile pushes her out of her usual whisper:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21vw-0GWBKQ
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stilltrying
Trad climber
washington indiana
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Oct 27, 2011 - 03:45pm PT
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David Crosby and anybody he has sang with.
Crosby & Stills
Crosby & Nash
Crosby,Stills,Nash & Young
The Byrds
CPR (Crosby,Pevar & Reynolds) reunited with his Son.
Check out the Voyages 3 CD set. Guess I have listened to it (listening right now) about 100 times.
On the 3rd CD is a song he wrote called "The Climber"
The heat of the stone against your face
The incredible presence of mass
The clink of the metal the hiss of the rope
The sky like a piece of blue glass
He clings to the rock with the feeling reversed
As if he holds the whole earth in his hands
He loosens a pebble and hangs there quite silent
Listening to his heart 'til it lands
Listening to his heart moved by his art
Up the wall, up the wall
His life in his hands who knows where it lands
Up the wall, up the wall
Copied from MetroLyrics.com
Been listening to him since the 60's but never heard that song until this copilation came out. In the little book that comes with the set he says that "The Climber" was maybe his best song.
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D.Eubanks
climber
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Dec 13, 2011 - 05:42am PT
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Crosby, Stills, Nash
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Dec 13, 2011 - 09:35am PT
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the problem with this thread, and america in general, is that most people think music is something that comes into our ears via electronic miracles, to be produced by the planet's top talents and consumed by the bumbling masses who can't carry tunes in baskets.
nothing could be further from the truth, but you had to grow up in the 60s to know that in america. instead of carrying a boom box or a walkman, you carried a guitar. i know people who have joined churches only because they like to sing and harmonize and no one will critique them for their shortcomings. in the 60s, you didn't even have to join a church.
of course, i love the beach boys and CS&N, but i think if i hear suite judy blue eyes one more time i'm gonna scream. there are a couple important mentions on this thread: barbershop quartet singing and ladysmith black mombazo. both represent "folk" genres which are easy to get into and in which the harmonizing can get very tight. a couple others in that vein: dew-wop, which, like barbershop, has experienced a cult revival, and what i call hillbilly harmony, which you hardly hear any more, even in country music.
this brings me to a turn i hope some of you will look into, and if you really want to get into it, feel free to contact me personally. i was fortunate to grow up with this from the italian side of my family, but even that side wouldn't have had it if it weren't for world war 1 and the time my italian grandfather spent in the alps. there is a wonderful, public harmonic singing unique to the european alps, and done best by the swiss and the italians. and the glory of it is, it's terribly accessible, it's instinctive, and if you can't carry a tune in a basket, no one cares. if you do enough of it, you will find the tunes jumping into your basket. what you learn from it transfers to all other music you know. and it so belongs in the mountains.
got lucky here and googled exactly what i was looking for. they even look like me and my brother and our italian cousin, a good 40 years ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKCXPvL0P_c
and another--how it's done. oi la la!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSzHXX2kPpw&feature=related
same tune, a little tighter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=0liY7OaIyp8&NR=1
and if you like it professional (and pretty):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKfP9N7EvYc&feature=related
my surviving cousin doesn't like these--too sad, he says, mostly war songs. but if you get far enough into it, there are plenty that are funny ones too, more folkloric, less bellicose:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G6kV1lCa1g
(the tragic story of a stud rooster who winds up in the soup.)
and for you hillbillies, one of the tightest groups EVER:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2CpywAO-Ro
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Dec 16, 2011 - 02:26pm PT
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Not a thing wrong with going American Hankster. There is tons of world class singing here. Love Heart too.
It's just that many Americans are soooo provincial at times with no world view outside their box.
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
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Dec 16, 2011 - 03:42pm PT
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Duh.....John & Paul
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Dec 16, 2011 - 09:51pm PT
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survival: thanks for that look at the masai. i know a bit about african native music, but never came across them.
btw, there's another tony bird out there--if you google my name, you'll get his. he's from south africa and, besides his own singing & songwriting, promotes quite a bit of native music. i heard him on NPR many years ago and nearly flipped--another folksinging tony bird into ethnic music. the world is way too small.
hankster, et al.: that GREAT american, pete seeger, has spent much of his career trying to keep america singing, trying to get america singing again, trying to get people interested in harmonizing. i think we stopped singing at one point and i wish we'd start again. singing is different than listening.
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axlgrease
Mountain climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Dec 16, 2011 - 10:18pm PT
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Tony-
Interesting point about church musicians... I suppose I'm one of those. I've been an instrumentalist since I was small, but my wife started attending a church more than 10 years ago principally to sing. Eventually, I was recruited, and I've been having a blast. We do primarily Anglican choral music, but wow, does it have some great harmonies! Some samples of us a cappella:
Hylton Stewart:
http://www.calvarysantacruz.org/media/audio/23rdPsalmCBR.mp3
Kinley Lange:
http://www.calvarysantacruz.org/media/audio/Lange-%20Grace%20to%20you%20and%20peace.mp3
(That last one is unpublished. We did one of the composers published works, and liked it. We got this one because our choirmaster e-mailed the composer to see if he had anything else that was similar. Lange e-mailed back and said "give this a try".)
I'm as much a fan of CSN&Y and The Beach Boys as anyone, but there's just something transcendent in doing it yourself. And it's not hard - it just takes a bit of work, the willingness to make a few bad sounds while your learning, and the opportunity. I think today's musical environment, with it's emphasis on passive listening, misses a lot of the essence of music.
-Alex
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Dec 18, 2011 - 10:07am PT
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My focus is a lot more on playing music than listening to music these days. most of what i listen to is stuff that i am working on or wish i was good enough to play. Every fri evening there are about a dozen of us who play unplugged in a bakery/caffe and though sometimes it can be a train wreck we have our moments. there are a few pretty decent voices in the group. One husband wife team that is stunning.
Tuesdays I play a plugged in open mike @ a pizza and beer joint that has some pretty good stuff happening. I usualy get to do a 6 to 8 song set and often jam with other muscians. prety fun stuff
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Dec 18, 2011 - 11:06am PT
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he'd forgotten how important music had once been in his life, a powerful magnet that had drawn him into an improbable circle of friends, inside the small world of the college and outside as well: a circle that included a dentist, a farm manager, a retired mechanic who'd lost his sight to glaucoma--all bound together by the premise that music was too important to be left to professionals.
--robert hellenga, the fall of a sparrow
homemade music, easy to hear
couple of chords, sweet and clear,
couple of friends, a couple of beers
i love to fill my ears with homemade music.
homemade music, just for fun
bring it with you, honey, when you come
we've got room for everyone
that's the one for me, that homemade music.
the mandolin is ching-ching-chingin' chimes
the mouthharp player's playin' so sublime
the big old bass is boom-boom-boomin' out the bottom line
the guitar picker's pickin' that old martin mighty fine ...
--bob gibson
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Dec 18, 2011 - 12:41pm PT
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Home made music is the key word there. Turn off the stereo, yank out the ear buds and pick up a guitar,madolin, fiddle or whatever wooden or brass instrument of your choice and make some music..........
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tornado
climber
lawrence kansas
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May 30, 2012 - 07:30pm PT
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Jackson Browne is/was pretty good at that harmonizing thing.
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Patrick Oliver
Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
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May 31, 2012 - 12:13am PT
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I think it was Mighty Hiker who mentioned classical groups, etc.,
and I can attest to some powerful genius in lowly places.
My ex is a professional singer and performed with
the Western Colorado Chorale, directed by Dr. Mont Atkinson.
They travel but often perform at the University of Mesa State,
in Grand Junction. I went to every concert. They are on another
level from just about anything you can name... not famous, but
unbelievably, profoundly beautiful....
As far as pop goes, I have many likes but will name the smooth
harmonies of Smoky Robinson and friends....
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Darwin
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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May 31, 2012 - 12:55am PT
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I haven't seen mentioned:
Silly Sisters: June Tabor and Maddy Prior. wikipedia(give them money) has links. I'll throw in the name of their bass player Danny Thompson 'cause on "Grey Funnel Line" he's way involved, too.
The Chi-Lites
Ladysmith Black Mambasso(mentioned?)
Then the rest that other people have mentioned: John&Paul, Persuasions, CSNY, BeachBoys, all those little Austrian boys singing Bach (but at least they still have their cojones), Kate & Anna McGarrigle and "Emmylou Harris with anyone" for sure. You all hear Emmylou's tribute to Kate? I cry thinking of it. There must be someone I'll kick myself for forgetting. Maybe the Crickets, but mostly I like Holly on his own. Aretha is probably my all time favorite vocalist from ANY genera, but I don't know I would list her for her harmonizing. Likewise for George H. or New Orleanian music: a favorite but not for vocal harmony.
Traveling Wilburys?
Sad Day here in Seattle, where the murder of four took place at a popular U-District music venue, Cafe Racer, followed other murders leading to six dead total. I've only been there once but Cafe Racer is only a short bike ride away from my house and work. (edited)
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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May 31, 2012 - 03:35pm PT
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i remember missa luba. doesn't surprise me it never had much follow-up. the catholic church hates getting upstaged like that.
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Blakey
Trad climber
Newcastle UK
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Anyone remember these, and this tune?..........It takes a little while to get to the harmonies, but to my ear they are very good.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Steve
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Apr 22, 2013 - 09:57pm PT
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I well recall the harmonizing of Tiny Tim and Miss Vicki.....sadly, short lived.
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Willoughby
Social climber
Truckee, CA
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Jan 18, 2014 - 02:24am PT
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Just picked up Hank's granddaughter's recent album. A few good ones on there, but this one has the chewiest harmonies for sure:
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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skywalker
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Jan 18, 2014 - 02:59am PT
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Didn't read entire thread. But just got back from a show with Chick Corea and Bella Fleck as a duet. Very cerebral, mostly classical in nature, definitely jazzy but...I can't find the words.
Interesting pairing.
Thumbs up!
S...
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john bald
climber
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Jan 18, 2014 - 11:11am PT
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Just finished Gram Nash's book. He has great insight into the makings of a good harmony. If you listen to the audio book, he even sings a few lines.
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Willoughby
Social climber
Truckee, CA
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Jan 22, 2014 - 03:11am PT
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Jennys throwing down a cappella. I like that they mix-up/shift the stack as they go through the different sections.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
I'm going to throw this in too. Über-straightforward vocal harmonies, but I really dig the harmonic interplay of the guitar over the banjo melody. I wish I could be half as crafty.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Willoughby
Social climber
Truckee, CA
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Jan 22, 2014 - 04:10am PT
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dig that Shovels and Rope Willoughby
Glad to hear. Me too! There's a gal in town that sings it with me sometimes. That and their Birmingham tune. Fun duo. See 'em live if you get the chance.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Jan 22, 2014 - 07:05pm PT
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Ella & Satchmo
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Willoughby
Social climber
Truckee, CA
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Dec 19, 2014 - 09:40pm PT
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Simon and Garfunkel meet David Rawlings' guitar. Lots of dry wit too. Put this on in the background some mellow day.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jan 27, 2015 - 09:57am PT
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thank you Miestro,oops Marlow I had missed this thread!
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Thanks zBrown. I just love them, have for decades. Somewhere I have some vinyl they put out in the 1980's. I'm going to find it now. It's hard to believe they started in the early 70's and still do it today. Over the years they have had a total of something like 20 members?
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Blind Boys of Alabama, another one for sure... I'd forgotten about them, thanks for the wake up call.
Regarding those "Overtones" above... Five Neumann U-87's in one room? That, my friends, is recording engineer porn.
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RURP_Belay
Big Wall climber
Bitter end of a bad anchor
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Apr 27, 2018 - 06:32pm PT
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The Blind Boys/Tedeschi was great - sad about Derek Trucks.
Just heard this one again today - great music & harmonizing:
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Willoughby
Social climber
Truckee, CA
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Apr 28, 2018 - 08:03am PT
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^ I suppose it's to isolate and control what that condenser mic is picking up, but it looks funny to have the dobro player way off to the side like that. Like he smells bad or something.
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