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LithiumMetalman
Trad climber
cesspool central
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Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 13, 2009 - 05:08pm PT
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Does anyone know if Summit Rock at Castle Rock is open? Also how does one find out (online wise)?
cheers
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Dapper Dan
climber
Menlo Park
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Mar 13, 2009 - 05:21pm PT
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Recently put up is a more permanent and official looking sign there at the summit rock parking lot saying that Summit Rock was closed due to "sensitive habitat" . It also said something to the effect that the area would also be patrolled.
If the sensitive habitat is the nesting area for the birds , which I think it is , I do not understand it as every time I go and check it out the nest area is completely empty .
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LithiumMetalman
Trad climber
cesspool central
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 13, 2009 - 05:32pm PT
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that's a bit of a bugger...
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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Mar 13, 2009 - 05:43pm PT
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because nesting is always a BS way to keep a crag closed. They do it all over - valley, SeKi, etc. Always BS.
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ohhyesss
Boulder climber
San Jose, California
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Mar 13, 2009 - 06:02pm PT
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I don't know if it's open or not but don't get caught by J. Rule the tool.
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kev
climber
CA
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Mar 13, 2009 - 06:22pm PT
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Someone should contact the county (it's in Sonborn county park not CRSP), find out who the biologist is, and what the deal is.
Chances are someone (birders) say something nesting or hanging out there LAST year. Closures in my limited experience rarely close a crag for a whole year. Anyhow I suspect a little investigation might have this cleared up.
I've been meaning to but I so rarely climb in that area now, that the dubious closure has barely impacted me.
kev
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 13, 2009 - 07:02pm PT
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I think I saw a pair of Falcons last week up there on the west side of skyline.
spring is close, so nesting is near, so they are probably watching the same pair to see where they roost.
if they are not in there by summer, i bet they open it.
did you try the green monster?
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TLloyd-Davies
Social climber
Santa Clara, ca
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Mar 13, 2009 - 08:17pm PT
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Last time I went I missed the new 'permanent' sign they had put up and walked all the way up the trail only to find a closed gate with more signs.
Talk about disappointing.
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Talusfeeder
Social climber
Here
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Mar 13, 2009 - 08:26pm PT
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what would have been more disappointing is if you had actually made it to the rock and "climbed" on it. That place makes Lexington Rock look like The Valley...
Sack up and go to Soquel.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Mar 13, 2009 - 08:35pm PT
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where in Soquel?
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Mar 13, 2009 - 11:09pm PT
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The redwood tower of wideness @ Casa Scuffy?
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Talusfeeder
Social climber
Here
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Mar 14, 2009 - 10:34am PT
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Demo.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 14, 2009 - 02:13pm PT
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Say Hello Say Hello to Poppin Fresh Dough
It's so nice to bake something fresh, like my brain cells...
Crap weather movin in.
Get up there now if your goin.
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TLloyd-Davies
Social climber
Santa Clara, ca
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Mar 14, 2009 - 04:34pm PT
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Yup, clouds rolled in, 30% chance of rain on Sunday. Heading up to Indian rock right now.
Demo Forest, there's rock in dem dere hills?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Mar 14, 2009 - 04:36pm PT
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It beter not rain, I was planning on hitting it tomorrow since my partners are 'busy' today.
whatever...
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TLloyd-Davies
Social climber
Santa Clara, ca
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Mar 14, 2009 - 04:43pm PT
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same, I just spent all morning wrangling up someone to go today to make sure I get some climbing in if it does rain
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Mar 14, 2009 - 05:03pm PT
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Yeah, I only go if my money-partners are gonna show, I do have second tier partners, but it's just not the same.
Lemme know if you need a partner tomorrow, I'll bring the beer.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 14, 2009 - 09:11pm PT
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ok, MAN, FINALLY, THAT DANG OL gREEN mONSTER GIVEN ME FITS,
BUT A SKANKED a line up some vine on a 5.9, total sketch
out with a 4-20 drop off mantle into a knicker-jam, off
width off course, then a reverse dyno up a manzanita
layback, into a crux roof mandatory crack hole, with
a serpentine twist thru a mank mantle, back to a choss
and grab 5.4 grab and run out lead into a cave rack
with bats.
You go down to Underworld Rock.
You cross Over Tyre Creek-self explantory.
Then you mantain elevation at 2400 feet til you drop
into the Aranberg Forest, a burn out madrone jungle
from Heaven, you would not believe the dang timber man,
anyway, follow the fall line all the way down the
gently slopping ridge, no bushwackin, nice open forest,
then you drop into the confluence of the two creeks and
then you are almost there.
Continue on down the skecty creek bed until you see
the Green Monster on your left, a distance of about
1/4 mile Max from the beautiful waterfalls formed
by the two creeks.
i WOULD SAY 2 HRS IN, 2 HRS OUT.
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tom Slater
Trad climber
CA
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Mar 17, 2009 - 04:22pm PT
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call 408-355-2200
raptor closure
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Barcus
Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, Ca.
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Mar 17, 2009 - 07:42pm PT
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Hey B-Ring!
Kat and I are comin up that way this weekend!
Call Me!
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C-dog
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Mar 18, 2009 - 03:28pm PT
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If the pattern of other closures up there holds, it will become permanent (as in the Valley of Stone). The rangers are a mite feisty, and several of us have been harshly dressed down to an inappropriate degree. The tone has been increasingly hostile over the past 15 years, with "No Parking" signs all up and down Skyline Drive, despite the fact that climbers have not trashed the rock or gone on wild bolting sprees or been nearly as littering as other local fauna.
I love Summit Rock, and want to to go up there while no one is around and clean up all that glass. D'oh! I can't!! For those who haven't seen, the recent graffiti paintings up on top have been obscene. Someone went absolutely NUTS with the fluorescent paint, lots of it. I guess that's just urban sprawl.
Also, a lot of folk put their empty beer bottles & cans into that little remote trash can up there, and word of this reaching ranger's ears certainly must not weigh favorably when considering a closure decision.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Mar 18, 2009 - 03:43pm PT
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Roger that, Barcus.
Maybe we can get C-Dog to join us. Probably have to go to Castle Rock SP though.
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Barcus
Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, Ca.
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Mar 18, 2009 - 03:56pm PT
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Sweet!
Call me, we're heading up fri. night.
Lets PARTY!
I'll check w/ C-Dog as well.
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Mar 18, 2009 - 04:03pm PT
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What's the access status on Skyline Slabs?
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billygoat
climber
3hrs to El Cap Meadow, 1.25hrs Pinns, 42min Castle
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Mar 18, 2009 - 04:05pm PT
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Open, but no drilling allowed--which sucks, because most of the lead bolts need replacing.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Mar 18, 2009 - 04:19pm PT
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Because of it's location, I don't think anybody would notice a re-bolting crew.
I'm just sayin'....
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Mar 18, 2009 - 04:20pm PT
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Good news bad news I guess. I recal replacing a few bolts at the slabs 20 odd years ago, and shoulda oughta done some more. I also put in a few routes on the left most edge of the formation, if you're facing the sea. I need to dig through my old photos I coulda sworn I had a few from that area.
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LithiumMetalman
Trad climber
cesspool central
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2009 - 08:05pm PT
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thanks for the info guys!
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 18, 2009 - 09:32pm PT
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There are a ton of bolts on the left side of the slabs if your facing east.
Low angle 30-40 footers.
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rhyang
climber
SJC
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Mar 30, 2009 - 06:27pm PT
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Nat, didja call them up ? Is Summit Rock open yet ?
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LithiumMetalman
Trad climber
cesspool central
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2009 - 07:35pm PT
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Sorry!!! Been out at RR!!! Summit is going to have to wait, Yosemite here we come!!!
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rhyang
climber
SJC
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May 28, 2009 - 09:45pm PT
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Just got back from a day at Castle Rock .. drove by the Summit Rock trailhead just to look - no closure sign posted !
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Dapper Dan
climber
Menlo Park
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Jun 10, 2009 - 11:13pm PT
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Hey rhyang i dont know what your smoking but i went out to summit rocks to climb today and there were TWO big signs saying summit rock was still closed.
nice beta buddy .
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rhyang
climber
SJC
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Jun 10, 2009 - 11:32pm PT
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Sorry dude .. I called up the park to get the scoop from the ranger the next day and they told me the closure was still in effect. Strange ..
I should have posted back to the forum, but just forgot :(
Next time you can call them up for yourself. And it's not like there isn't climbing in the park nearby ..
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Jun 15, 2009 - 04:11pm PT
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Yesterday (June 14th), I talked to the horse ranger who patrols Summit Rock and he told me that Peregrins were indeed nesting there. However, when I pointed out to him that the Rostrum was closed during the nesting season and then reopened in the fall, he replied that the peregrins had now taken up residence at Summit permanently, so the closure was going to continue basically forever. He also added, snidely, that he'd seen a peregrin up at the main Castle Rock that very morning, implying that that rock might be closed soon as well. If this wasn't just a trick to close Summit to climbing, the County Parks would be planning on a fall re-opening. Sounds like Santa Clara County Parks and State Parks might be planning a general climbing closure in both Parks eventually. Tricky. Tricky. What I want to know is where were these continuous patrols at Summit when there were bottle throwers up there? Where did this huge budget for horse patroling Summit emerge when there wasn't a nickel before to mitigate bottle throwers and drinkers?
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kev
climber
CA
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Jun 15, 2009 - 04:28pm PT
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Bruce,
Yeah this whole thing has smelled like a BS excuse. Raptor closures do not exist for whole years. The temporary climbing closures plan at CRSP (what for 10 years in areas how the f%&k is that temporary) Fricking nature Nazis up there. It's slowly becoming guerrilla/OB climbing up there now. Sucks if you ask me. Perhaps the Access Fund should be contacted? What do you think? Anyone else want to chime in of the thought of contacting the Access Fund? Anyone have any experience with them good or bad?
kev
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Jun 18, 2009 - 06:41pm PT
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There have been a pair of Peregrines nesting in the Castle Rock/Summit Rock area for three years.
Have watched them fly "home" towards Summit Rock in the evening.
Have watched them mate in the air (freakin' awesome).
Leave them be at Summit Rock
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Jun 18, 2009 - 09:44pm PT
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unlike the red tail, which nests at the top of big trees, the peregrine picks out sandstone caves, where the coyotes, racoons, snakes, can't eat the eggs.
so if they happen to land on your favorite crag, you could be screwed for the life cycle of the bird, 8 to 10 years, during the nesting season.
i do not think they will close castle rock, those birds need space between them, especially if they share the air with red tails, sparrow hawks, turkey vultures and the rest of the avian society, so there is usually a good deal of space between nesting pairs?
kind of like the cougar, it has an 8 by 17 mile rectangle for each male.
i think the ranger was probably worried about his own fate, so he was passing it along in the form of negative energy.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jun 18, 2009 - 09:56pm PT
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I saw a red-tail from the base of Eagle Peak...we were rapping the WHOLE route to check it out and saw one cruising BELOW us.
F*#king Peregrines can't be that endangered with so many closures. They nest on THE F*#KING TOP OF SAN JOSE CITY HALL!!!!!
They even have a cam set up for the returning female....
pinkos!
http://www2.ucsc.edu/scpbrg/falconcameraSJ.htm
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Jun 19, 2009 - 04:09pm PT
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Funny, how no information about the Summit Rock climbing closure due to Peregrin nesting is being made available at the Sanborn Skyline County Park site. Also, no notices have been distributed at any of the local Bay Area climbing gyms. Seems like the County regards climbing as a fundamentally lawless activity that needs to be stamped out through stepped up law enforcement and patrols. The Horse Ranger I talked to on June 14th seemed to be more a cop than a ranger.
The Access Fund, incidentally, tried to mediate the situation up there back 10 years ago, but to no avail. Think the Access Fund co-ordinator back then was Paul Minault. Don't know who is performing that role now. But it sure seems like one nesting pair of Peregrins only requires closing one or two routes at Summit on a seasonal basis, rather than shutting down the whole rock complex. There have to be over 30 routes up there, including the only real crack climbing in the Bay Area. If the Peregrins are nesting on the Lower Tier at Summit, how could going over and climbing at the Outriggers bother them?
Sounds to me like this Peregrin business just lets the Rangers "get even" with the climbers, who they have always regarded, basically, as criminals. After all the Summit Rock clean-ups organized by REI, it does seem a shame that there is so little communication betweent County Parks and the climbing community.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
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Jun 19, 2009 - 04:44pm PT
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"F*#king Peregrines can't be that endangered with so many closures. They nest on THE F*#KING TOP OF SAN JOSE CITY HALL!!!!! "
Heard one then saw it 40' above me in downtown Pasadena Wed. Watched it return to its lair in Pasadena City Hall dome. So if one were to use the arbitrary standards used by land managers then at least a 4 square block area surrounding Pasadena's City Hall should be shut down to vehicle and pedestrian traffic.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jun 19, 2009 - 05:03pm PT
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Heard one then saw it 40' above me in downtown Pasadena Wed. Watched it return to its lair in Pasadena City Hall dome. So if one were to use the arbitrary standards used by land managers then at least a 4 square block area surrounding Pasadena's City Hall should be shut down to vehicle and pedestrian traffic.
Word...
Bruce is probably right though, just an excuse to prevent access to 'pesky' climbers.
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Jun 20, 2009 - 03:16am PT
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The irony of the whole situation is that "back in the old days" the rangers at Sanborn County Park liked having the climbers visit Summit Rock because they discouraged bottle breakers and party-ers. I do see now that the nesting Peregrins are referred to in the new Sanborn Skyline County Park "Master Plan" formulated in September 2008. Probably was railroaded in there by someone trying to eliminate the "climbing problem" at Summit Rock. Really sounds like vengeance to me. If the peregrins are nesting in the cave above the University of Santa Clara Practice Climb #1 (as they likely are), why not just shut the Lower Tier on a seasonal basis and allow climbing on the Upper Tier and out at the Outrigger Boulders? I guess someone really should contact the Access Fund about working out a compromise solution. Has to cost the County a bundle to have a horse ranger and three assistant support rangers up there every weekend. All the trucks and trailers seemed brand spanking new like this is part of a "New Order" being imposed up there. Someone else better do it though since County Parks probably hates me for writing the guidebook to the area without giving them a take of the profits. But of course there have been guides to Summit Rock going back 40 years.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Jun 20, 2009 - 04:51am PT
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hey bruce, i got a pile of FA's to do in the aquarian valley proximity, since you wrote up all the first ones, do you wnt to come on down and write up the rest of this stuff?
i'll even let you name a few, so it can be,"morris code, the morris plan, the morris the merrier, early morris sunshine, the bm bivy, the bruce is loose, kiss my morris, doris,
ok, you get the point,
serious though, that would keep the ratings consistent, the 5.6 and all that,
have the same guy rate everything...
and then add it to the next edition of your book.
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Jun 20, 2009 - 02:18pm PT
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I didn't name those routes: Brad Watson named them after me to deflect the guilt. You better have done those routes already because currently there is a ban on new route activity in the Aquarian Valley enforced by the MROSD. If you already have done them, send the topos to the address at the start of my guidebook and I'll insert them in the next edition.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jun 21, 2009 - 06:46pm PT
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A wildlife/raptor biologist who I know says that there are several sub-species of peregrines in western North America. It's hard to distinguish them except through DNA. One sub-species is relatively indifferent to humans, another is quite sensitive. Plus some individuals of either kind are more or less acculturated to humans. Which ultimately makes it difficult for wildlife managers with limited resources to decide which ones are more in need of protection - with the likely result that they err on the conservative side, in terms of dates and areas of closures.
Like it or not, they're an iconic species, and if it comes to birds v climbers, my money is on our feathered friends.
The peregrines on the Stawamus Chief - there's at least one pair - have been returning for decades, to a fairly settled location. This year they seem to have moved, and some theorize it may be related to excessive 'cleaning' of routes above the usual site. The result is that the Grand Wall is now closed above the top of the Split Pillar, probably through the end of July.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jun 21, 2009 - 06:55pm PT
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What a pile of horsesh#t, I'm starting to really dislike those SOB rangers (and Peregrines).
When I was climbing in an undisclosed location this weekend my partner was repeatedley dove on by a raptor that was obviously protecting a nest (prolly Peregrine since it was a rock nest).
I just told him, f*#k it, let's climb somewhere else, the bird is sending a message, let's leave it alone.
We did.
Climbers, the ones shunned by raptor closures, prolly have the most respect for the birds. There are exceptions but you know what I mean.
The whole 'endangered Peregrine' thing is really starting to piss me off. They will find nests, they don't need our help to protect them anymore.
Mighty Hiker edit: the birds will be fine.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Jun 21, 2009 - 07:18pm PT
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all it takes is a beaman r-9 and a couple of silver bears in .177, whats all the fuss about?
you can even stuff the frickin thing and put it on the mantle.
or glue the wings on a rat and hang it from the ceiling like ralph krauss.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jun 21, 2009 - 07:27pm PT
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Trust me, I've considered it (briefly), Dr.
No birds, no excuse to close it.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jun 22, 2009 - 01:26am PT
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When someone with the nom de plume of Warbler says something about birds, it's a good idea to listen. Though I believe that warblers are usually dinner for peregrines. He may be singing like a canary, but he ain't no stool pigeon.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
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Jun 22, 2009 - 01:39am PT
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I wrote on another thread about this. When I got busted in New Mexico 25 years ago I did a bunch of research in preparation for my case. At that time there had been some research, all of it in Europe or Australia. I can't believe more hasn't been done since but I'm not surprised. Land managers don't want to be shown how capricious and arbitrary their decisions are and the vast majority of academics wouldn't be caught dead doing anything practical or the least bit counter to the prevailing more-bureaucracy-is-better-philosophy in wildlife management. One of our Tacoheads did contact me about this. He is an academic at a major university. I quote from his letter to me:
"I can say that the majority of this "science", however, is based on opinion."
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Jun 22, 2009 - 03:42am PT
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Sent a description of the Summit Rock nesting raptor "problem" to the Access Fund this afternoon. Wonder what they'll say?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
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Jun 22, 2009 - 11:15am PT
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When I got busted I was 3/4 of a mile from the cliff on an adjacent ridge! The two ridges were further separated by a 400'-800' deep canyon!
My research showed that in England and Australia no more than 200' of lateral separation was necessary especially if it was a quality nest with an overhang above.
I consider myself to be both a bird-watcher and a bird-brain so I can say I am unanimous in decrying this nonsense!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
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Jun 22, 2009 - 11:47am PT
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Warbler, is it Prothonatory or Blackburnian? Sorry, birder's joke.
The only serious predator of falcons is the Great Horned Owl.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
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Jun 22, 2009 - 12:00pm PT
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Since the Great Horned rules the night and outweighs adult falcons by 2:1 both are possible.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jun 22, 2009 - 01:04pm PT
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Peregrines tend to nest in places only accessible to other birds, and climbers. At Squamish, a main threat to peregrine nests and fledglings is bald eagles, of which we have a lot. Over 1,000 BEs overwinter in the Squamish area, mostly eating dead post-spawning salmon. There are fewer BEs around during the spring and summer, and they seem to be somewhat oriented to the estuary, but can often be seen on the Chief.
I suspect the learning curve for a juvenile peregrine is steep, and often lethal. I wonder how many hatchlings survive to adulthood, and what the causes of death are?
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Jun 22, 2009 - 05:08pm PT
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Read on folks! If you look at the Sanborn County Park Trails Master Plan that I posted a link to above and search under Indian Rock (about 2.5 miles further south along the Skyline than Indian), you're in for a eye opener. For one thing, County Parks wants to reduce parking there to 10 car spaces from the 30 or more that are available today. They also are talking about "improving" the short trail to Indian Rock for the purpose of allowing "users" to view the "tafoni formations". In other words, climbing and bouldering, which have gone on in that area for nearly 50 years, are being edited out as legitimate activities at Indian Rock too. Everyone agrees that this is where some of the finest boulder problems in the whole Castle Rock area are located. This sounds like one more application of the "tafoni baloney" strategy: the delicate formations are so fragile that only passive appreciation is allowed. In other words, once the new parking lot is in and the entrance trail is "improved" for the handicapped, climbing on the "unique" boulders located there will be prohibited. Call me paranoid, but I bet that's the long-range intent is there among the higher ups at County Parks. Unlike equestrains, dog-walkers, mountain bikers, hikers and runners, climbers are being lumped into the category "park users" (abusers?). It seems as though County Parks will never refers to "climbers" as a legitimate user group in preparation for eliminating them entirely from the Master Plan. If you don't bitch to someone starting right now, there'll be no climbing or bouldering allowed along the Skyline anywhere to the east of Castle Rock SP. They've started at Summit and pretty soon it will be Indian, the Nature Nazis, the Indian Rock Bouldering Circuit, the Sharma Arete, the Indian Cracks, the Lost Keys Boulders, etc. etc. in a word, the whole "works". If they never use language in the Master Plan that refers to climbing and/or climbers, you can bet that they're trying to edit those activities out of Sanborn-Skyline County Park's future.
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kev
climber
CA
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Jun 23, 2009 - 02:22am PT
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Bruce,
If you want to email me perhaps we can do something to get started. Get a bunch of signatures, contact the access fund, etc.
Dr Sprock,
If you're drilling from stance and need some help email me.
kev
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Jun 23, 2009 - 03:34am PT
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i should have mentioned that the angle is just perfect for free climbing.
so no bolts required.
there is also a huge crack system.
maybe a tree sling for the first timers, but the tree fuzz don't even like that.
so if you want to leave some chalk on some virgin 100 foot slab action, let me know. and then there's a million others waiting, have you been to "don't litter rock?"
who was that freak who was getting shot at by the freak at the top of the hill with the freakin barking dog?
i think that guys a vet.
have you ever talked to a vet before?
hey, i gotta give a shout out about these krieg chalk bags, they kick ass!
i cleaned out 2 of 3 skull and bones at pg sf, one left.
they are so well made it aint even funny.
give sam a call.
check this sh#t out:
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kev
climber
CA
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Jun 23, 2009 - 04:30am PT
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Um - there's a crack! Now I really want to go.
kev
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Jun 23, 2009 - 11:59am PT
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ok, we need more people.
maybe we can talk ol bluering into huckin his lard azz down in there for a ffa party.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jun 23, 2009 - 01:11pm PT
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I'm in!
I'm going to Tuolumne this weekend though. Have to be later.
That Iron Maiden chalk bag is BADASS!!!!!!!!! I'm gettin' one.
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Jun 27, 2009 - 02:38am PT
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See from a post last year on the Rockclimbing.com forum that the peregrines were nesting on the Lower Tier at Summit right next to the appropriately named route, "Glob of Shit" (5.10c). IOWs: Closing the Lower Tier of Summit during the nesting season (Feb. 1 to July 31st) seems appropriate. But closing the whole Summit Rock complex all year long and into forever seems like a bunch of B.S. concocted by Santa Clara County Parks and Recreation as an extra-feature of their Trails Master Plan. Summit should obviously be re-opened on July 31st, 2009. Sure hope the Access Fund is successful in their negotiations with County Parks.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jun 30, 2009 - 11:31pm PT
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Okay, so Bruce, kev, and I have contacted the Access Fund about this and we're going to need some other local volunteers to help us out.
Anybody?
kev is busy with the Shuteye Ridge and Bruce needs supposrt because he may be considered biased because he wrote the local guidebook.
We need regular local climbers to be willing to go to meetings with the Park Service.
Help!
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kev
climber
CA
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Bruce,
I'll call you tomorrow.
kev
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Local climbers are posers if they don't reply to my query.
You know who you are, today someone else's crag, tomorrow yours.
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jmc27
Trad climber
Bay Area, CA
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Guys,
i'm down for helping anyway i can (except funds, i'm back in school). i haven't had the chance to climb at summit yet; the closure has been in effect since around the time i moved here. i'm itchin to try it out.
When/where are the meetings?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Hey Jason, we are trying to get a meeting together to discuss a plan of action. We may do it early next week. It's be awesome if you could attend.
I will e-mail you my number.
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Robja
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Bluering, I'm down to help. You can reach me at rsjarvis@ucsc.edu
Rob
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Dapper Dan
climber
Menlo Park
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Hi there I am interested in helping. I'm 28, a school teacher, I live in Menlo Park, and I have climbed at summit before.
You can email me at : exyady@yahoo
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Excellent!
For those who've expressed interest in helping, we are still working out a day for a meeting.
We'll be in touch when we set a date/location.
Thanks!
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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I'm local and willing to invest time to help. Email at the taco.
Steve
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LithiumMetalman
Trad climber
cesspool central
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 1, 2009 - 06:33pm PT
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Even though I live 114+ miles away from CR I'm down to help!
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Bruce, bluey and kev, put me on the list. It's been years but that's where I started.
Let me know who, what,where,when to do the dirty.
Mucci
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Alright....I just talked to kev.
We're thinking Wednesday the 15th of this month we meet at kev's house for a BBQ/beers and discuss a course of action on how to proceed with the park service.
Kev lives in Mountain View, directions will be forthcoming. We're thinking sometime after 6pm but we're flexible.
Anybody who wants to come please reply to this thread so we can plan on it.
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Talked to Kev on the phone this morning & it looks like there is starting to be a ground swell of public opinion regarding the Summit Rock closure. Sounds like we do have an excellent bargaining point: If other crags are closed from Feb. to July for raptor nesting, why in the heck is Santa Clara County Parks closing Summit to climbing indefinitely? Doesn't make sense (especially since no Wildlife biologist signed the closure order). I'll be starting a new string re: the Summit closure soon that will give the email addresses of the people at County Parks who probably approved this order. I for one will be making it to the barbecue to thrash out some kind of a larger strategy.
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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WHoa Man! A gathering at Kev's? I have attended many a swill fest at K-sparks. I'm bringing some Ribeye's, and would gladly offer my skills for the kitchen work.
See you guys in the Garage,
Kev- Clean your grill
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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morning bump...
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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bar b cue?
mt view?
can i come?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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sure, Dr., by all means.
We can probably alter the date by a day or two to accomodate peoples' schedules.
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kev
climber
CA
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Dr. Sprock - yes you can come! Anyone seriously interested in taking an active part in working on the local issues in and around CRSP is invited. No let me rephrase that any CLIMBER that is interesested....
When/Where?
Wed the 15th. Downtown mountain view. I'll be home around 6-ish.
Why?
Although there will be BBQ and Beer remember why where here. We need to formulate a formal plan about the situation at Summit Rock, but more generally the whole CRSP area. I think I may cap the drinking until we've got something done. After the work is done then it's a climber get together. I just want to be straight here especially for those of you that have been over before...
Bruce is going to be starting another thread so everyone that wants to come should post up there and I or someone who knows how to get to my house will contact them with directions, etc...
For all of you that would rather do this on the weekend - sorry but I've got climbing to do then and no one has stepped up to arrange this....
I'll invite the Access fund guys but I doubt they'll show.
Greg (Barnes) - You out there? Interested in comming over? Your knowledge would be helpful. I recall a campfire conversation years ago and you seemed to know a lot about this area and sort of issue.
Mucci - Clean the grill? That would remove the flavor crystals!
Ok back to work then off to climb...
kev
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maestro8
Trad climber
Sunnyvale, CA
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Been huntin' birds since I was a wee one. Have experience casting shot and reloading shells. Would be glad to help in any capacity. Chalk me up for the BBQ, ffa, etc.
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kev
climber
CA
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Haha, just let the folks at the gun club know.
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Robja
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Dammit, sure you don't want to meet on a Tuesday or Thursday??
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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maybe, Rob.
kev?
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kev
climber
CA
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So everyone that's interested should post up here on on Bruce's new thread about when they're free. I choose wed since no one said when or where in an email thread we had going. I'm not going to start switching dates until we see everyones availability.
tues,wed are good for me, monday and thursdays are possibly good....PM only and never weekends (unless it's raining)
Ok so post up everyone.
kev
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Ant weekday evening during the week of the 15th is good for me. Not Friday though...
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Robja
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Thanks Kev, I'll monitor the two posts to see which day is selected. Would be stoked to meet some climber folks from the other side of the hill and work to solve this access issue.
The only bad days for me are Weds and Friday's
Rob
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msiddens
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
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Hey guys,
closure at Summit? I'm interested AND I live in Mt View. email me the details when they are locked in at msiddens@gmail.com.
Thanks!
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say...bump for all you good guys....
and kev's house ...
and summit rock info, etc...
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