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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 12, 2008 - 01:14am PT
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December can be a tough month....for many people and a variety of reasons. It's a time of celebration but when life sends you more than you can deal with it can be a period of depression and worse.
One of my best friends just called and said their 29 year old son is in the ICU Unit at the hospital on a ventilator due to an accidental drug/alcohol overdose. He's not expected to survive. His life is in incredible disarray and he simply could not cope with it.
As many of you know here on the Taco my husband, Dan, died unexpectedly 12/29/07. So this Holiday Season is the first one to live and experience without this wonderful guy I loved and lived with for many years. I understand life's serious challenges and know grief and depression.
Life is wonderful, but it can be very tough at times and we need to be there for each other. This ST Forum has been there for me this year big time !
BOTTOM LINE: Lynne's list is a Thread that will be available til @ 1/11/09. If you are struggling or have issues please let us know. We will pray for you every day. If you don't think prayer is real that's ok cause many of yo believe in positive thoughts etc and they will be there for you everyday. You don't even have to be that specific if you don't want to. You can also email me.
Just want all to know that there are people that care and will listen to you....no matter what, big or small.
Peace and Joy Always, Lynne
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MisterE
Trad climber
My Inner Nut
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Dec 12, 2008 - 01:31am PT
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Lynne, I send my heartfelt support to you. Know you have so many friends to help you through the hard times. We always will provide love, distraction, joy, and everything else.
Best wishes, Erik
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Dec 12, 2008 - 01:40am PT
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Baby doll,
Sure, death is final and we face I am sure complete annihilation. Just like every other living creature and certainly everything else in the natural world: it all passes, it wears down, it changes. We are not an exception and should not want to be.
But we don’t die simply. Yeah, we die but we live on in perhaps thousands of minds, perhaps again and again for many decades and quite often beyond. We become a part of human history and inform the tasks of all the living, which if you really think about it, is actually a better place to be than here.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2008 - 01:54am PT
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Well, yo are all being like the incredible Taco, way beyond Grate! I am doing good...never know when the weird thoughts may come, but we can deal with it with so many great people to give a shout out to. : D
Yo be concerned about the people out there that have not let people know about their hurt and pain or have a tough time verbalizing it.... That are home alone and hurt big time. Looking at the Christmas lights and dying on the inside. Fake smiles then tears for hours.
Please give us a shout cause we care and want to be there as the tribe for you. OK Dudettes and Dudes. You are NOT Alone.
Peace, Lynne and the Taco
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Sherri
climber
WA
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Dec 12, 2008 - 01:56am PT
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Bless you Lynn. My little sister lost her husband to a heart attack on January 5th, just shy of their 2yr anniversary. This will be her first Christmas, etc, without him. Thanks for the reminder to keep a compassionate perpective on the holiday season...
Hugs,
Sherri
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JOEY.F
Social climber
sebastopol
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Dec 12, 2008 - 01:56am PT
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Lynne,
I shall now go to bed and quit my internal
bitching about a bunch of crapola that is nothing
compared to what you have been through.
You've gotta a sweet soul, that's for sure!
Joe.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Dec 12, 2008 - 01:57am PT
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Lynnie
You da best!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2008 - 02:01am PT
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Sherri, Yo little sis be first on my list. Cheers, Lynne
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Dec 12, 2008 - 02:10am PT
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I've found the best way to get my sorry ass through the emotional clusterfudge of the Holidays,is to just give, and I'm not talking materially. Give time, give an ear, give a damn. It's easy in my job, so I try to just do it well.
I think this is going to be a weird Xmas for all of us, everywhere. Don't ask me how or why, I just have a strange feeling, beyond the obvious.
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Sherri
climber
WA
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Dec 12, 2008 - 02:10am PT
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Thanks, Lynn. Your gift of kindness is a generous one--and one I know my sister can use. Here's to wishing you receive many of the same in return. :)
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2008 - 02:18am PT
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10-4 wayno, agree. processing all above. love it when yo make me think.
which brings me full circle. the reason I came on the taco cause I saw life leave. The plug was pulled and 10 ? minutes later life left a body and the body was gone. No, the body was still there. the life and the spirit was gone. Intrinsic part of the human had disappeared.....the soul ? still thinking.
Me
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MisterE
Trad climber
My Inner Nut
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Dec 12, 2008 - 02:20am PT
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Energy can be neither created nor destroyed
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2008 - 02:26am PT
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Peter Haan, indeed "we don't die simply".
To All Above: Thanks for your caring from my heart to yours. Yo all, tomorrow give big smiles to all who cross your path. You will be twice rewarded.
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GDavis
Trad climber
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Dec 12, 2008 - 03:45am PT
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all the bad things happen in december, I guess its because the rest of the year always go well. a few years ago we lost 3 or 4 climbers near december and a close friend of my families was gunned down during a routine traffic stop by a kid. All things considered, its the time of year when family come by and visit and you're surrounded by people that love you... so maybe its a grace of god kind of thing?
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2008 - 04:04am PT
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GDavis, sorry I've missed ya recently , Dude. Yo can we email and keep up on the local Sun Diego Climb scene? Have a special and Blessed Christmas Season and tell your Mom big howdies. Smiles, Lynne
Second on the List......GDavis's people that he has talked about ....
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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Dec 12, 2008 - 10:22am PT
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So far this December....
My best friend lost his granddaughter in a home fire, of course his son and wife lost their home and their daughter, their son was burned badly. He called me last night and told me his mother passed yesterday. A little more salt in an already opened wound. I feel his pain, he's my best friend.
My wife's sister succumbed to brain cancer last week.
On top of these, I lost my oldest brother in September.
I miss them all, its part of life. It still saddening though.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2008 - 10:37am PT
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johnboy, I and my friends will be thinking of you and all touched by these tragedies. We will pray for all many times each day. If there is anything we can do in the practical sense to help out, please email me. Sincerely, Lynne
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Dec 13, 2008 - 05:31pm PT
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Bump.
Life throws us a curve sometimes. I'm glad to have this forum to re-meet people I met in my past and meet people I never met before. I was never a great climber, but just enjoyed the sights, sounds and scent of being in the mountains.
One of the things I will always hold in my heart is finding flowers in a crack in the middle of nowhere.
Like Lynne I have recently lost a lot of what I hold dear.
Ya'll are part of something that cannot be easily defined. Who cannot forget the first time they came thru the tunnel and saw the faces of the ditch?
Oh yeah, What about that full moon?
Edit: Lynne, your presence on this forum has been a breath of fresh air.
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Dr. Rock
Ice climber
http://tinyurl.com/4oa5br
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Dec 13, 2008 - 06:23pm PT
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There is now a 911 like number called
211
so no need to dial 40 digits when your ready to jump
food, shelter, whatever, just dial
211
http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/211.html
On my speed dial, right below the Cannibis Club.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Dec 13, 2008 - 07:21pm PT
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hey there lynne... say, after my life fell apart, due to the ex, and me having to leave texas, my kids and my home (one which my dad had helped to even have) (kids were grown, but barely in their twenties)----it has taken near 9 years to get to feel alive again, so i surely understand how wonderful this post of yours is, to say to folks:
"come on in by the fire, and warm yourselves"---someone cares to chat a mite about your pain and loss...
and, i too, have understood the sorrows of others, as they, like you, had faced the death of their loved ones---a wound far worse, as it is final, than the wounds of divorce, seperations, and such...
so these words and action, now done by you, concerning what i just said:
"come on in by the fire, and warm yourselves"---someone cares to chat a mite about your pain and loss... are mighty POWERFUL medicine, when dares to take a "gulp of it" , or even a "tiny dose"...
say--mine was emotional stuff, and not physical, as you losing your husband to death---but the emotional wounds that my kids had to bear, and still do, still can howl at the ol' windows of ones mind, at times... so can losing your only home,one that you will never get again... and losing the comfort of knowing you have a "brood of beloved kids and grandkids" to nuture and be part of, in life...
but--thanks to the good lord, there are some new step grandkids here, and they need a good foundation too, and two of my real ones are here, (though the four in texas are still missed)---these ones here are a gift to fill in the vast, dark hole of "roots pulled out wrongly".... the transplaning and ground-tilling, to get this new plant of my life to "kick in" has finally started to show some signs of real life:
the holidays were always spent half alone, but at least not fully alone---watching folks and families shop, though, can still feel very foreign and odd, as i walk through the midst of all of it:
yet, just seeing occasional smiles and chatting with folks you run into, in the stores, can be a small adventure to make one feel that they belong in the "new life project" of where they are---like me, being here...
thus---even as your post here---i make very very sure that each day i have, i give back some of the stamina, vision, and tenacity to hold on, and love, and well-wishes (and a prayer) to SOMEONE else, as they may need it a LOT more than me, being that my "ship is somehow still floating" and though it may not have a course, or a crew, it does have some "well wishers" on a few tug-boat nearby(these step grandkids, mainly)---and who knows, perhaps there is destination, still, for me to reach:
one never knows, so one presses on...
:) ---thanks lynne... its been many a cold lonely winter in this little place of mine... this year my dad can help with the heat, and i got freezer bags of pumpkin soup!---and a new pup-dog (some may say an investment to "ruin" my little income that i have--but for me, it is a big "inner" income, worth much more)...
why, SAY---with all this "new" stuff this year---it is a time of good cheer, in a different sort of way... being that jesus keeps the soul anchored and stable, while our lives seek to more onward and upward, to whatever our goals need to be...
*say happy christmas, and happy new year, early, sent to the inner-being of your kind soul---and to all, you all, too...
:)
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2008 - 07:25pm PT
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Another shout out. A bro just became a first time grandpa just a couple days ago. Baby got aspiration pneumonia and is in IC in a Moscow, Russia hospital. (Mom's Russian and will move here soon.)Baby's Dad, Gparents are all here in the States. :(
Please keep thoughts and prayers for this youngun' and Fam.
Dr. Rock, thanks for the Practical Info. Really important ! Great how the Taco inhabitants are so varied, but together it's like a team that provides different perspectives and help.
Yo Guys, That would be Hot Aire, hehehe. Thanks for the "Kind" for this gal, but if you spent any time with me you might want to lock me outta the house after awhile. :D
Now have a Grate Evening ! Peace, Good Thoughts, and Prayer.
Edit: Neebee, your writing is beautifully unique. One can walk in your shoes after they read your posts and books....and get great glimpes into life. Funny, just this a.m. I read Hebrews 6: 19......"we have this hope for an Anchor for the soul, firm and secure." Smiles, Gal
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Dec 13, 2008 - 07:31pm PT
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hey there lynne.. say, we can be praying for my mom... as, last year, near about this time:
she lost her sister, my AUNTIE... and she has not quite got over it, due to the fact that:
my auntie was 79, and in perfect health, but FELL through the ice of her pond, while caring for her property and wild critters and her new dog (her beloved other dog, had already died)...
no one knows exactly how it happened, but she was due to go to a party that night and did not show---a friend came looking and saw her tracks to the pond... and the neighbor had heard the little dog barking most of the day...
it was a very terrible shock for my mom to learn this, of her beloved sister... they were going to share their 80th birthdays together---and each christmas, we would get the best cards and stories from her...
we can pray that my mom will get a "special delivery" note to her heart that will help her "file all this right-and-proper" with in her heart/soul, if you get my drift...
i love my mom---sure dont want her to hurt so bad, again, this year... :(
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Dec 13, 2008 - 07:37pm PT
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боше мой!
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Dec 13, 2008 - 07:40pm PT
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hey there lynne:
not meaning to mess up the ol' thread/post here, but say, email me, when you can:
which book did you get to read:
jake's ranch and the second gate...
or...
steppingstones through jake's ranch, volume 3?
pray for me, i need time to write volume 4... it is near ready to "birth"--but i have not had time, due to oddness of earlier work hours for me...
awwwwwwwww, lynne, as always, it is a pleasure to hear from you---and sure do LOVE that hebrews verse....
see, it is the good lord's ever perfect timing... far above all wonders, it surely is...
*keep sparkling, here, lynne...
:)
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2008 - 07:43pm PT
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Jay, yo speak Russian too ? Translation ? or is it Greek orthodox which is what many Russian's are now ?
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Dec 13, 2008 - 07:46pm PT
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hey there jaybro... say, i had taught myself to read my bible in russian.... (couldnt speak it, due to shifing stress---and no one to practice with)... but i enjoyed it...
also, read it in a variety of languages, that i had taught myself to read---all gone now, since divorce... i gave near all of it away...
say--still got the russian bible though... i had only done this, as i saw the alphabet, in a dream one night... and it looked very special and pretty... then, i found it in a dictionary (the list of russion letters)... it was great fun to "crack the code" and this led me to start doing about 70 other languages---all gone now, sadly...
say---thanks for memories... our mom's mom was slovenian, and some of the words sounded similar, but were not in cyrilic alphabet...
:)
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Dec 13, 2008 - 07:54pm PT
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Colloquial for, "my god" used in that sort of context.
Studied it in hs & College, spent the summer between my jr & Sr years of high school in Leningrad & Moscow. Pretty rusty these days, but it comes back if I'm patient; though living in Northern cal, I hear it every day.
More Russians are Russian orthodox, some Eastern. I never could understand old church slavonic...
The building where the Marmot™ store in Berkeley is today, used to be a Russian Orthodox church, went there for RO Easter services a couple of times in high school.
 o thread drift, again!
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Dec 13, 2008 - 08:09pm PT
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hey there jaybro... sure love just a tad of thread-drift... it is like the "winds over the seas" when done right----the vastness of the sea, STILL remains, and all, are STILL the richer, for it...
i sure loved hearing differnt languages... missed doing all that... but it was a treasure that i will hold dear, even as you do, with what you learned, too...
still got my russian bible all marked up, too, as to what i read... :)
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2008 - 08:10pm PT
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Gezzz, I been hanging with Anastasia too long, of course it's Russian Orthodox, Not Greek.
Well, it's winter and snow drifts alittle too around the old campfire. :D
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Dec 13, 2008 - 08:33pm PT
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"winds over the seas" - that one is going in my journal.
language and how it affects how we think, tradition, etc could be a whole 'nother thread.
But I really appreciate the thought behind this one right now. Only a few more days to Beethoven's birthday. There's always hard times this time of year, but some respite in my own family; tonight my brother's family is coming over for dinner. My sister in law (born in Bejing, became a US citizen the day after the election) is heavy with daughter #2 due in May. Their daughter one, was born may 5 ("my Chinese american neice born on cinco de Mayo who learned the draddle song in her Sufi preschool"™) so these girls may have birthday friction.
a long way to say that though things are crazy, still there's a lot to be thankful for...
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Dec 13, 2008 - 08:36pm PT
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hey there jaybro... wow... thanks for this share from your heart...
may the birth go well...
cheers to you, dear jaybro!
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Dec 13, 2008 - 10:16pm PT
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Lynne,
Thanks for starting the topic. You're on our prayer list. My wife has become such a part of me that I can barely begin to imagine the grief of losing her, but we share the resurrection Hope, so our grief doesn't become despair. From what I've seen of your posts, you must, too. Thanks again.
John
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jbar
Ice climber
Russia with love.
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Dec 13, 2008 - 11:36pm PT
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Lynne,
Such a great post and such a thoughtful person you are. Isn't that what the holiday season is all about. It's sad 2 me that it seems like loved ones always pass during the holidays. I remember putting up the tree early one year and hoping on all hope that mine would get to experience Christmas before she left. I think it's wonderful that you are reaching out to those who truly need. The people suffering through the holidays without saying anything to anyone. Please include my Uncle Travis Dye and his mother in the prayer circle. His father passed away recently. They had a very close relationship and I'm also concerned for his mother as they had been married over 50 years. I'll scan through the posts and add my prayers to the community.
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Blitzo
Social climber
Earth
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Dec 13, 2008 - 11:45pm PT
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Hey Lynne, let's go back to Crossroads...........maybe knott!
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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Dec 14, 2008 - 12:04am PT
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You can't control "the winds over the seas", all you can do is adjust your sails.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2008 - 12:05am PT
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JEl and jbar, Thanks Guys.... Truly. Some day I hope to tell what a journey it has been this past year....for me the decision was to run from Jesus or into His arms. His arms are choice, all encompassing and always there. Best place to be.
Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think I would be climbing or on a climbers forum....but here I am. I would never have chosen climbing.....Glad you all reached out to Lynnie. Climbing and The Forum have been the best grief processor's in the world for me.
I know I say this alot, but it is Just So True and Important to me.
Oh, yes, Billy.....we will go to the Crossroads again for breakfast or dinner.....I have a plan. : )))
EDIT: Great johnboy ..... just put that in my journal. Thanks Dude.
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jbar
Ice climber
Russia with love.
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Dec 14, 2008 - 12:18am PT
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Mmmm, crossroads. I love that place!
Lynne. I don't think we choose at all. I think it chooses us.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Dec 14, 2008 - 12:25am PT
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hey there jbar... say, one year, back when i was married and my now-ex's father (my father in law) had cancer all through his body, well:
he died (on?? his birthday, i think it was, or the day before?) (the pearl harbor attack date)... well, we were setting up for christmas at this time...
we never had an artificial tree, but a neighbor gal gave us one--it looked real, and oddly, we did not know if we could go on and do this----yet, we did...
but in this case, we know he had made peice with jesus, and we, the kids, and his wife, and all the sons and daughter in laws, etc, (no one else) were there when he died, in the hospital room---we saw him go in peace, after he said yes to jesus wanting jesus to be his...
well--that peace stuck, and we had a nice christmas, as---being a family, and such (at that time) did the magic, even though we lost him (he had been a heavy alchoholic and to others, a "dirty drunk"---but not to us, even though he actually, sadly was dirty, far too many times---we loved him, and were used to his behaviour, though never acknowledge that his drinking times were good)...
it was oddly, too, the one christmas where i thought my then-husband, was takikng serious inner-thoughts to being a better man... seems it slid away, later, though... (like the so-called fox-hole promises of some, not all, folks, when the voice of death speaks to ones tuned-at-the-moment, ear)...
holidays, can sure do curious things, as to family situations, that is for sure...
*say, there, JEleazarian (am checking for spelling, will be back with an edit)--as to you and your wife, being so close, etc---and someday having to part, when that portion of life comes:
i wrote my last novel of the jake series, the conclusion, concerning this feeling between friends, and family, and between the man and woman relationship---as---to me, i feel that there when a guy and gal DO really find the mate/partner that is there beloved, parting can be a soul-wrenching trauma, as if part of yourself is lost... same as for twins...
i wanted folks to understand and see this, and hope it would help them...
thanks for your share, here...
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Dec 14, 2008 - 12:29am PT
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hey there johnboy... say, very sorry to hear about your best friend, and the sad loss....
i will be praying for him, and all...
you, being there for him, can help, in what ever way you can---even though it may not seem like it now... god bless...
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2008 - 12:35am PT
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I can't explain it in words, but yo right jbar, Indeed! How does it choose us....what is the magic that happens?
To walk up to a rock and say to the rock, "ok, how do I unlock the secret of sending you?" Cause even with help from yo friends you alone can make the climb. Hard Rock Magic.
Do you get out to the J. Tree ? We can all meet at the CRoads.
Say, anyone going out over the New Years....?
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hossjulia
Trad climber
Eastside
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Dec 14, 2008 - 12:38am PT
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if it doesn't snow, I have to, I'm going crazy waiting for work.
Thanks for this Lynne
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2008 - 12:43am PT
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hossjulia, you really may be out at the J.T.? That would be so cool. You mentioned that your sig other knew my husband. In what context...climbing ? What is his last name. Did or does he by chance do packin's with horses or mules ? Did he know my hub's bro John Leichtfuss....jess wonderin'.
Say gal, yo are in my journal and my thoughts and prayers. Thanks So for emailing me!!! : DD
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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Dec 14, 2008 - 01:39am PT
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Big, big Hug Lynne! Your one really special lady. I am very fortunate to know you. I will call you again soon, just moving too fast right now to even catch my breath.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2008 - 01:44am PT
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Pepper Gal, are you going out to J. Tree over New Years ? Are you working too hard? How are you feeling ? Let me know what's goin' down yo gal. Or I will have to get tough...understand bwahahahah. lrl
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Dec 14, 2008 - 01:45am PT
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hey there lynne... say, can you please, if you are still online... or someone... please:
bump the bobby model thread and the micah retz thread so we can wish them holiday cheer...
my computer for some reason, is not bumping those far-back post up... maybe it is just a fluke, tonight...
but, i have to get offline for my mom to call...
would you try to BUMP those two post...
thanks so very much... i sure hope their families are doing fine for the soon coming holidays, as to all the hard changes that have they have come through...
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2008 - 01:50am PT
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I'll try Neebee and great idea for this thread. Not good at finding stuff....but will give it a whirl. Smiles and Peace, Lynnie
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Dec 14, 2008 - 01:59am PT
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hey there lynne.. say, i got to get off line now and call my mom, so she can call me...
you just got to type in, on the right hand side of the page--(when you are at the whole list of post, not in a seperate post, like we are now), the name:
micah retz
and then, for the other one, type in:
bobby model
they both should show up... as, they are unique to the names...
for some reason, my computer is stalling out, and will not bring them up...
in the past, they have though... never sure what the hold-up is, though, when this happens...
well good night dear gal and all for now...
thanks for the tries.. i had hoped to post in them, too... may have to do that tomorrow... unless i get back on line later...
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jbar
Ice climber
Russia with love.
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Dec 14, 2008 - 02:03am PT
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If I lived closer I'd be out at Jtree for new years fo sho! I love that hippy hummus they got over at croads and the burgers are awesome. Also, it's close to the liquor store.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2008 - 02:15am PT
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Neebee, I found his thread B. Model and posted 4 separate messages....none of them go thru. Never had this prob. before.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Dec 14, 2008 - 03:56am PT
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hey there lynne... say, i had a nice phone call with my mom... i'm backkkkkkkkkk....
say, i deleted tempory internet files--maybe this will help my computer go faster...
i will try to find it now...
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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Dec 14, 2008 - 06:32pm PT
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I "always" go to Jtree for new Years! I don't know how long I'll be allowed to stay for this coming trip but "I will be there!" My Joshua Tree New Years experience are very precious to me, it is the one tradition I refuse to break!
Can't wait to share a campfire with all of you!
I'll be bringing the Greek coffee.
AF
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 15, 2008 - 01:15am PT
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I need to remind myself...sometimes we miss the obvious....our own on the Super Topo.
Taco people we need to keep in our thoughts and pray for:
Daphne, surgery for detached retina in the eye, serious stuff.
L. Migranes....also incredibly life and body hurting !
Micah Retz, healing from a diving accident
Bobby Model, not sure but Neebee says it's muy importanto.
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Double D
climber
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Dec 15, 2008 - 11:14am PT
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Lynne... you're an angel. My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your boys. Thank you for sharing your courage and faith.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Dec 16, 2008 - 10:12pm PT
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Big bump for that sweetie Lynne!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2008 - 10:30pm PT
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Awwww, shucks, Double D and Steve W, it sure ain't me. The Taco seems to bring out the best in this sorry gal. Without you two and MANY others Lynnies year would have been maybe to hard to deal with. As it is, I am slowly and literally learning the ropes and climbing into a new life, Lynne's life part two. What a great legacy of old and new climbing friends and solid rock Dan boy left me.
I so appreciate you all. Love from Lynne
Edit: and Cosmic, you have offered so generously to take me climbing and help me...thank you too, Dude. Hope to be with yo when you celebrate your big Bday...on the rock. : )) And A Very Merry Christmas !!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2008 - 10:56pm PT
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Ok, since I'm on a roll I want to "send" some cool stuff to Neebee and others (like yo) that need moorings in the sea of life. An Old song I ran into over the weekend.
W.C. Martin.....Daniel B. Towner
THERE IS CLIMBING TERMINOLOGY...anchors, rocks, cables ....read ropes.
My Anchor Holds
Tho' the angry surges roll On my tempest driven soul
I am peaceful, for I know, Wildly though the winds may blow
I've an anchor safe and sure, That can evermore endure.
And it holds, my anchor holds; Blow your wildest, then, Oh gale
On my bark so small and frail: By His grace I shall not fail,
For my anchor holds.
Mighty tides about me sweep, Perils lurk within the deep,
Angry clouds o'er-shade the sky, And the tempest rises high;
Still I stand the tempest's shock, For my anchor grips the ROCK.
(It is a Rock related Thread) :D
I can feel the anchor fast As I meet each sudden blast,
And the cable, though unseen, Bears the heavy strain between;
Thro' the storm I safely ride, Till the turning of the tide.
Troubles almost 'whelm the soul; Griefs like billows o'er me roll;
Tempters seek to lure astray; Storms obscure the light of day:
But in Christ I can be bold, I've an anchor that will hold.
Yo, rock and rope always secure you. Lynnie
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Dec 16, 2008 - 11:07pm PT
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hey there lynne.. say, will keep up the prayers for them all...
say, as to the death of my mom's beloved sister (turned out she WAS 80, not 79---my mom was 79, and is now 80)...
well, my mom finally had some good news to share, in how she is getting better from the sisters death---course not all the way, yet, as, it is a journey for her... but she read this shortly after and never shared it unit now----NOW, is when the power is hitting harder, one year later:
this is what was so powerful to help her, and, she read it on a calender:
isaih 55: 12
"for you shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace;
the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall cap their hands."
well, lynne, due to the fact that my dear auntie was living a life full-into nature, and she died sudden when the ice broke from beneath her
my mom was "hit" by this verse sudden like, and we both can see how she went out in joy that day, and was led in peace:
but as the ice broke, she was entered into heaven and the mountain of the lord and singing, and she was among god's new life... we knew she believed... therefore there is no "hard" sadness...
so lynne----we are getting some success here, and there will be more to come, for your ol' prayer list... :)
god bless you, you fine gal, you!
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Dec 17, 2008 - 02:04am PT
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Lynne, neebee, Allie, and all the rest of you long-suffering mothers, peace be with you in these hard times. Some times I can't help but notice how much you reach out. It busts me up. If it helps to know , I got your back, anytime, sisters.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Dec 17, 2008 - 01:27pm PT
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hey there lynne... say, i've heard the song... and it is very soothing... like when the calm of storm comes, and you see you've stood the ground...
ype, very nice song, lynne... say, peace stays hidden in the midst of the storm but those that know "where" , find and keep it... :)
hey there wayno.. say, thanks for "hey there" ... and care...
nice to hear from you... :)
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 17, 2008 - 08:00pm PT
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Got a message from one of our tribe members struggling with finances due to illness and not be able to work. This is always difficult to deal with, but much more so during the Holidays. Sure we can say, count your blessings, but when we're not in their shoes we don't know the challenges they face....sometimes alone.
So we be remembering and praying for all you that face these life dilemmas at such a difficult time. We Care. Lynne
Tough times for many, so many can't do much but we can all help each other a little.... Peace and Joy : ))
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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Dec 17, 2008 - 08:13pm PT
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I know that feeling well. I almost can say that Cancer was the easy part and paying for not working, the treatments, and all the bills that went into collection is what hurts.
Yet, with this group behind me, my friends, family and hope; everything will eventually come out in the wash. I just need to keep working at it and be patient.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 17, 2008 - 08:16pm PT
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Mayhap we might ring in the New Year together Miss Pepper ?!
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AllieKat
Social climber
Kirkland, WA
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Dec 17, 2008 - 10:30pm PT
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Lynne...I think you may just have one of the biggest hearts on the planet. : ) If wishing someone well is all it takes I would say you are covered. I cannot imagine a day goes by that there are not more people than you can count that wish you only the best and brightest of everything...including me.
Thanks Wayno! I am going to have to head over to visit you one day soon at the restaurant...I love that place! And I want to give you a big hug!
I would like to put thoughts out to a very good friend of mine who recently had a heart attack before his 40th birthday...he is struggling and although he survived it, is struggling to figure out how to live with the fear that consumes him and the continuing health issues. Hoping him a speedy recovery both physically and emotionally...
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 17, 2008 - 11:14pm PT
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Wow, Allie, I will definetly pray and hold good thoughts for your friend. If he wants to email me and express angst and fear, I am a good listener. I am in the healthcare profession, but have no degree, just alot experience interacting with people who are sick and recovering or sick and dying....basically listening and caring.
I appreciate your nice words, but really I'm just a human being...with all the faults and foibles that a human has. There are people here that have let me know I'm not a favorite of theirs. So I screw up big time. It makes me crazy cause I like the verse that says, "as much as it lies in you, be at peace with all people."
So there ya go, email me any time dear gal. I sense you are doing quite well in the overall recovery mode. Having walked this road recently and still making the journey...that's how it appears to me. Peace mixed with Joy to Allie, Cheers for you !
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 17, 2008 - 11:57pm PT
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Yo, JEleazarian;;;;;;Since we share the hope, We will do the BIG send someday Dude ! Looking Forward, Yes !
Wayno, remember story of David and Jonathan...Jonathan had David's back. Thanks Guy! I will remember and me fo' you.
Say, at the top of the life list is watchin' yo friends back, right on ?! And Huge Part of Climbing is Watching your Partners Back. Peace :D
Ok, I'm out too much talkin'>
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Dec 18, 2008 - 12:54am PT
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hey there lynne... say, the more the list of yours grows... the more the victories, will too... :)
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 18, 2008 - 01:16am PT
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Ed, it was wonderful to meet you and your great family and friends out at Josh over the Thanks....Holidays. Yo, Ed, it is people like you that are instrumental in others healing process. You reached out and invited me to join your group and climb. I did not get to climb with yo, but I got to climb the whole day. I pro never would have climbed at all but for your invitation out there. (yo to shy to walk up and say, "let's climb".)
Merry Christmas Ed to you and your family. Say, I may get to AZ off and on.....when your group climbs there email me a copy of what they are doing and on what dates. And Have a New Year filled with Joy and Peace. Lynnie
EDIT: your suggestions are great and I will follow. :D
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Dec 18, 2008 - 01:51am PT
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Sounds like the living waters are flowing over on this thread. It was good to get off work and see that my meager words were appreciated by those that they were directed to.(bad grammar?) Hang in there gals, it will get easier. And then about five or even ten years down the road all those bittersweet memories of mournful distress will be transmuted into a most wonderful gift. One you received with pain and can give freely with joy. You might not know what I'm talking about, but you will.
This time of year has always been a challenge for me. I see so many people on my job enjoying good times with family and friends and I do my best to make their time in the restaurant a memorable one, but my personal time during the holidays is an exercise in detachment. My brother lives in Cali and my sister in Hawaii, and I get Xmas day off, that's it. I can't remember the last time I saw my family during the holidays and probably won't until I retire or change careers. It makes me a little melancholy sometimes, but every year it becomes easier. Even though my parents and brother died years ago, this is the time that I miss them the most. Life goes on, and more loved ones will leave us as the years pass, so just remember, everything is going to be just fine. Death is not really that bad. We survive.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Dec 18, 2008 - 02:13pm PT
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Another big bump for our friend Lynnie.
This woman is so SPECIAL!!!!
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Leavittator
climber
san diego, ca.
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Dec 23, 2008 - 11:06pm PT
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Lynne,
I know this year is tough without Dan. If you don't have any company for Christmas dinner, you are welcome to join my wife and me @ my mom's place in Carlsbad. We are having another friend join us who has no one to share the holiday with. Call me if you are interested.
Merry Christmas,
Randy
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Dec 24, 2008 - 12:32am PT
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hey there lynne... say, you got some warm INvites... say, may your christmas this year, not be empty... and may your memories still be stirred, but not in sorrow--but in BUILDING... building of your new strength...
and of course, weeping may be for a night (or a season)... but joy comes in the morning (or, a new season)... both will fit...
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2008 - 02:07am PT
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Merry Christmas R. Leavittator!
Your invite is one of the best gifts received this season. My daughter, Leah, said to me recently, "Mom, one of the greatest legacies Dad left you was his climbing and the friends you both made during that time. She is so very right!
Thanks Karen and Randy for your great thoughtfulness! Maybe when yo have time to go climbing we could .... think I can pull it off now.
Kind friends like Todd Gordon, Zip, Brett Pinar, Dave Edge and others have taught me alot in the last several months.
Have a wonderful Holiday! It is such a great feeling to know I would not have to live it alone.
Peace and Joy to You and Yours, Lynnie
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2008 - 02:26am PT
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And just an update..... The young man in my first post is off the ventilator. He was nearly pronounced (dead) when admitted to the hospital with his body systems shutting down...he is now discharged from the hospital with hardly any abnormal affects.
Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers for life direction.
The baby in the Russian ICU unit in the Russian hospital is now discharged and we expect the babe to be in New York and his Dad to see him for the first time in mid January. : D
Please everyone on this thread write in and let us know how everyone is doing. If things are going well we would like to give a shout out. If things are not, we need to know so we can redouble our thoughts, cares and prayers for the people/situation.
Experience tells me the next month will be difficult for many. Especially More So during this crazy financial time in our entire country.
We pray for you Cosmic and all of us that struggle now. So please those of you that are not great at freely communicating ....email me or anyone or just post here.....to let us know what we can do for you. There are many of us struggling and we need to care for one another.
Much Peace and Joy and a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all on the Taco throughout the World.
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JOEY.F
Social climber
sebastopol
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Dec 24, 2008 - 02:36am PT
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Lynne,
You're the OUT OF CONTROL SUPERTACO
make you feel good warm blanket!
Wishing us all some security, lots of love,and hard cranking.
Joe.
edit regarding Lynne's post below,
FL 09 only 9 months away......
I'm already packed.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2008 - 02:51am PT
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Hey Joey, it was grate to connect with you this past year! Wishing you a Christmas/ Holiday Season that is both warm and fuzzy and also Rocks...and a New Year that is great, and filled with the things that fill your life full!
Hope to reconnect at the FaceLift 2009. We will have to start "encouraging" Chicken Skinner and promising our best behaviour ever...right ? Big Smiles, Lynnie
EDIT: Yeah, Life is Short and Big Time Focus on the Hard Cranking....according to yo skills of course... : DD
Double Edit: Neebee, yeah...joy and weeping .. both part of life. Thankfully we have each other and God to make the balance weigh in the joy and peace favor. Love to yo and yours, Lynnie
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2008 - 11:42pm PT
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Thinking of and praying for All today who struggle with sadness and grief caused by the death of their very much loved one.
December 29, 2007 at 12:47 pm Dan Leichtfuss "sended" from this planet to heaven. Today is the culmination of 360 days of missing one who was intrinsically woven into my life for many years.
Loss and Grief are mysterious beings whose presence and appearance are unpredictable. Thinking the 29th would be so hard to deal with, yesterday afternoon I was hit hard by the unpredictable and illusive ghost of loss and sorrow.
From nowhere it hit, unexpected.... An insurmountable sense of Sadness. Blindsided by grief. For some reason my brain said instead of fighting the sadness, let it rip and feel it.
So I did. I explored sadness and all its shades of sorrow and just what it is comprised of. It was a new and calming sensation and the sadness became bearable. Feeling the sorrow and sadness, letting it wash over you curiously helps release the pain and sorrow....and finally I was left with wonderful Memories of Dan Boy.
THANK YOU again to So Many on the Taco that have supported myself and many others who have experienced the grief and loss of ones they love over 2007-2008.
In one of my first posts on the Taco, I said that "grief is like a deep pool with no streams flowing from it to carry away the sadness. But when many friends, old and new, come to the pool and fill their cup, slowly grief drains away."
This has proven more than True. God help those that grieve and bless those that help relieve the sadness. And Bless the campfire tribe that are so very caring and giving. Unique people that help us heal.
Love, Lynne
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Dec 29, 2008 - 11:47pm PT
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I've been thinking about you today, Lynne, all the best your way.
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Captain...or Skully
Trad climber
North of the Owyhees
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Dec 30, 2008 - 09:44am PT
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Ditto. Can't say anything that ain't been said better by another already. Hope all is the groove, is all.
:-) ;-)
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2009 - 10:50pm PT
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Hey Guys, missed my deadline. Said I would keep this Thread going until 1/11/09. I am late, but it's ok. I have been keeping everyone of you....yeah, each and every one, in my positive thoughts and prayers this season. All the details expressed all the thoughts printed here....very special.
It is difficult to share ones struggles. But if you have done so here they will be appreciated and honored. I am still wondering about Owlman .... yo ok Dude ?
To all of you VERY special and incredible gals and guys....I will keep yo in my postitive thoughts and prayers til I hear from you.
Taco Folks Are THE BEST. :DDD Lynnie
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skywalker
climber
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Jan 13, 2009 - 12:32am PT
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Hey, just caught a glipse of your post. My wife and I learned we are having a baby girl in May. We thought of names a week or so ago and we wrote down our first picks. Mine was Mia. Hers was Maya... Ok. .. I have a dog who was awesome. Last week we had to do what many do with a canine old friend. I left the room in tears only to see a BIG ol' dog in the room. I hugged that dog with all my might. The dog returned the favor. I asked the owner what the name of the dog was and she said Maya. I'll leave it at that.......
Cheers
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 27, 2009 - 11:03pm PT
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Bringing this back for several reasons.
Neebee's Post about People in trouble this winter is a BIG one. All of us need to perhaps slow down and look around to see if anyone our life path touches needs a bit of help....even some fire wood you share can be extremely benefical to an older (hate the term elderly...:D cause yo passed the 50 mark...we just be a little older) person.
Also, We haven't heard from Ouch's Allie in a while, have we....? If we have did I miss it? Way too easy for hurting people to get lost in the craziness of our lives. Allie, we still be here for Yo Gal !
Finally, Good, positive thoughts and prayers NEEDED. My 82 yr. old Mum who had a stroke July 4, 08 and recovered quite well, is now having a big hip replacement surgery manana. She is a "mover" in life and her hip has made her unable to care for their 5 acres and impedes on exercise classes etc. With qualified Dr.'s blessings she has opted to have surgery rather than sit in a wheelchair for the rest of her life.
So, shout out to the Great Taco and all its inhabitants. Lynnie
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 27, 2009 - 11:41pm PT
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Thank you, Fattrad ! Anyone out there with info about our "Southern Child" ? Jennie, any info ?
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jan 28, 2009 - 03:47am PT
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hey there lynne... say, i will pray for your mom... also, too, i had been wondering where allie, was....
say, i thought dirt-in-eye was just laying low, sure hope he is alright--- i have not seen many trip reports , though, as i have been busy, so he may be posting there... ???
hmmm, forgot what else i was gonna say...
happy to see you, lynne...
god bless!
:)
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jan 28, 2009 - 03:50am PT
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hey there... now i remembered,,,,
oh, skywalker.. very sad to hear about the ol' old dog...
:(
say, but wonderful news on the baby, though...
we all that life moves on, and babies are a life-time work in progress for new parents and old...
:)
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 2, 2009 - 12:21am PT
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bump.....
I started this Thread because a friend of mine has a son who has nearly died at least 4 times over the past 10 years from incredibly serious accidents etc. due to self destructive drug and alcohol abuse. (Read my first Thread/Post).
Would so Appreciate your Prayers and Positive Thoughts tonight.
He has just gotten out of hospital incarceration after two more attempts to end his life. He came by my office today ( what I call a holy coincidence cause he doesn't hang with me much.) I was able to love him and speak from the heart to him, encourage him, pray with him and offer any help I could give.
He is a half step from leaving this planet forever, please pray his incredibly broken life gets healed and he can be a wonderful Dad someday to his two baby girls.
Thankyou Taco People. Lynne
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Positive vibes, stay with us.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 2, 2009 - 12:26am PT
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Thank you so much Jaybro, really means more than I can say. lrl
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Make a gratitude list. Consciously thinking of the blessings in our lives does more than just put things in perspective -- it has the power to change our attitude. In my bleakest moments, it was finding something to be grateful for that kept me putting one foot in front of the other.
Let us know!