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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 27, 2008 - 03:05am PT
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what's the story?
Ken Yager and Cade Lloyd in 1992 on Elephant rock climbed Poached Elephant, a ten-pitch route left of “Worst Error.”
details?
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Nov 27, 2008 - 03:32am PT
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My guess is very, very, carefully. . .
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 27, 2008 - 03:49am PT
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I'd like some info on Trundling Juan over there too!
Recommended in a previous guidebook never talked to anybody who did it
peace
Karl
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Where are YOU from?
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Nov 28, 2008 - 11:46am PT
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SirLoin Bump.......After all, he was there, too.
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Sir loin of leisure...
Trad climber
X
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Nov 28, 2008 - 12:28pm PT
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poached elephant was an interesting route...very interesting..
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 28, 2008 - 12:31pm PT
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any info on the route?
stories, pictures, details?
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Where are YOU from?
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Nov 28, 2008 - 01:55pm PT
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Inquiring minds want to know...........
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 28, 2008 - 09:49pm PT
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going up got for a recon tomorrow... any hints?
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MisterE
Trad climber
My Inner Nut
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Nov 28, 2008 - 09:53pm PT
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Chicken Skinner, Elephant Poacher...
This guy is not a vegan, is he?
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Jingy
Social climber
Flatland, Ca
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Nov 28, 2008 - 09:56pm PT
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Ed - What time will you be there? Short of complete rain out.. I'd like to see this!
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Greg Barnes
climber
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Nov 28, 2008 - 09:57pm PT
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Yeah Ed, here's a hint - ask for beta a little bit before the Thanksgiving weekend!
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Sir loin of leisure...
Trad climber
X
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Nov 28, 2008 - 10:49pm PT
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a recon, seriously, are you mad? one good thing about it, is you hike down to start it, and then when you top out ,It's a hundred yards to your car.
It is obscure,no repeat to date..chicken skinner might be able to make a topo..you'll want one for sure.
some good pitches,some scruffy pitches,and some hard pitches..actually quite hard....I would like to hear of someone on it to see what they think...
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Sir loin of leisure...
Trad climber
X
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Nov 28, 2008 - 10:50pm PT
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also a most excellent adventure in the summer, as it is mucho shade,,,,
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2009 - 11:26am PT
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ok, the year's list is developing and Elephant Rock is starting to show up a lot in my thoughts... still no beta on this route...
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Not only that, it shows up in the spring Patagucci
catalog. . .
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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C'mon Ken, we're waiting for some info.....getting tired of holding my breath since last year.
Ed H Bump!!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Poaching an elephant isn't as hard as making enough hollandaise sauce.
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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why you need a topo? have an adventure.
or get Ken to take you up, if he feels like it.
I think to poach an elephant you need a REAALLY big pot, hot water wiht proper seasoning (no idea what that would be, and I never could find a pot big enough anyway) and then you just stir.
I'd say add wine but you'd have to own a vineyard to afford that.
But speaking of elephants, I need a litle help thre. Full sized are way to big for our place, and we could not afford to build an elephant proff fence around the property anway. BUT tehre IS the borneo Pygmy elephant, and that is a different story. I want three, anyone know ehre to find em here? thaty get totally mistreated in borneo, real poachers trap tehm in leg loops traps and they break free but thier legs get infected from the lop around it eventually, and they have to be rescued .
I'm offering a good home to three. mating is OK. GOtta have a herd cause elephants really like that. We figure thay make genuine elephant manure and that is the BEST thing to put on teh garden. All I have to do is train em to go in teh proper spot! Elephants ares smart, so that would not be a proble.
Porbably the cats would not approve, but they'll just have to get used to it. when they are not shitting, the elephants would have 6 wodded acrews to roam and have a good time doing whtever they like-- hopefully annoying te chicken man, whose roosters have been a real porblem over the eyares. haha, maybe a litle elephant trumpeting would be good payback.
anyway, need three borneo pygmy elephants, to a good home, will makes sure they havea good spot to winter in-- hell I think they will fit n the laundry room with the cats on a really cold night, and they can choose between going outside or not from their house ( still heated) the rest of the time. we havea lot of warm days here in winter, you they would probably enjoy getting out and trampling a pasky rhodent from time to time.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2009 - 03:28pm PT
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not looking for a topo, necessarily (I wouldn't turn one away though), but even a bit better start info might be useful. Am I looking at a 5.8 line or a 5.12 one?
Also, thought there could be a good story there, too, not many lines up on that huge hunk of rock, and it has more than it's share of horror...
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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Ed,
It starts to the right of Crashline and heads toward the curvy seams. Do the Improbable Traverse backwards and then work your way through a little vertical bushwhacking to a nice ledge below the overhanging wall at the top. Climb a crack on the left side of the overhanging wall and then walk five minutes to the car.
How's that for a topo?
Ken
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2009 - 08:59pm PT
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sounds like a recipe for adventure,
can't wait to try it out!
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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Have fun Ed. It was the longest route on Elephant and may still be. Most of it was really good and a great location. We were highly visible on it and were honked at continuously as we set up our porta-ledges in the bulge in the middle of the curvy seams. Probably the lowest elevation hanging bivy in Yosemite. On the "Don't rock the boat pitch" I mantled this rocking block which Cade who was below didn't like it too much. Cade led the flaring seam up higher with regular cams(only two cams making contact, offsets would make it easy). We both thought the other had the crux pitch. I don't know if we took pictures. I can't find any. Sir Loin?
Ken
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Zander
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Ken,
What are we talking here? 5.7 C2? 12c A4?
Ed, when are we going?
Zander
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2009 - 11:35pm PT
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Zander, I think it would be rude to ask Ken for any more information...
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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I wouldn't worry about the rating, you guys can handle it. It is mostly just hard work. If memory serves me right, you could aid anything over 5.8 or 5.9. The aid will be a grade or two easier with offset cams. Let me know when you are going up there and I will pull over and yell at you on the way up to work.
Ed, I am pretty hard to offend. I think it would be fun to climb with Zander. Have a good climb.
Ken
P.S. Take some pictures.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Mar 10, 2009 - 12:15am PT
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Enjoyable Thread....."hearing yo's repartee." :D
I'm with Jingy, date and time...Taco people can come and cheer you on...:))
EDIT: Didn't look at the dates .... fell for the old thread jazz once again. Oh well, no prob. as I really enjoyed the banter. lrl
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2009 - 12:31am PT
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not sure we'll do it totally public anyway Lynne, but what ever we do, we'll post a trip report about it...
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Jingy
Social climber
Flatland, Ca
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Mar 10, 2009 - 03:15pm PT
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and post up photos when your done with the poaching
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kev
climber
CA
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Mar 10, 2009 - 05:01pm PT
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Sounds like fun Ed - Enjoy!
kev
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Zander
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Mar 10, 2009 - 11:11pm PT
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"Zander, I think it would be rude to ask Ken for any more information..."
Called out onto the carpet by Ed! Ouch.
(I still want to do the climb, Papa)
Ken, any time you want to climb with me you know where to find me. It would be my pleasure.
Climb on!
Z
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2009 - 11:14pm PT
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just didn't want to spoil the fun with too much information
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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Mar 13, 2009 - 12:36am PT
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Ed and Zander, One piece of important info I just remembered. You should bring some wired rivet hangers, maybe 6 or 8. They should be short as the reaches will be long. I didn't want you to go through the effort and be lacking in that department. Hope you aren't on it yet. Have fun.
Ken
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 13, 2009 - 12:46am PT
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not on it yet, Ken, probably save it for the summer as we fill in the schedule.
Right now my lower back is complaining... but maybe we'll be up to play on Sunday.
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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Mar 13, 2009 - 12:50am PT
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Ed,
I have one of those backs that talk back to me. You should stop by for a visit and dinner sometime if you go through El Portal on your way home.
Ken
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Mar 19, 2009 - 07:43pm PT
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!!!111
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Mar 29, 2009 - 07:25pm PT
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Bump for climbing!
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Oct 20, 2012 - 11:55pm PT
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Bump it up, then. It's The Elephant, man.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Oct 21, 2012 - 01:42am PT
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The Poach still abides. No Second.
There are those than can. Will they?
Good Topic, man. That's a Badass Rock.
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Plaidman
Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
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Oct 21, 2012 - 11:01am PT
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Yeah Ed where is the TR? Just sounded like a good route.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 21, 2012 - 11:24pm PT
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back problems happened... but the dream lives on...
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Oct 22, 2012 - 12:36am PT
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Okay, now I'm interested.
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