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MisterE
Trad climber
My Inner Nut
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 19, 2008 - 09:15pm PT
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I just got it - man, I been slumming it for 34 years. Total dirtbag. I only made over 20K once since I was 14, and never broke 30k.
But I sure skied/boarded/climbed a lot!
I guess not all compensations are monetary - that's my story, and I'm sticking to it!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Nov 19, 2008 - 09:23pm PT
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Mr. E, Don't believe the sheee they mail you, I did once but...it's a a bunch of bogus expletive. My hub worked since he was 14 and as a professional for 30 plus years. I went to check out the benefits after he died. If I make more than 13,000 a year you get Nadda. (It would be a challenge to live on $13,000 a year...maybe ?)
I would mayhap cry if I told you how much money they took from his pay check over his lifetime. Nice yo govermental leeches. Just let us keep the $ and let us take care of ourselves. IMHO
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GhoulweJ
Trad climber
Sacramento, CA
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Nov 19, 2008 - 09:24pm PT
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MisterE'
Way to go!
I never had the guts to not make a lot of money. May sound weird but it's true.
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MisterE
Trad climber
My Inner Nut
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 19, 2008 - 09:28pm PT
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I like that right there.
On the other side of the equation, I never had the guts to commit to anything but joy, and that never equated to work, in my case...
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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Nov 19, 2008 - 09:32pm PT
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Mine says I'm worth more dead than alive.
I'd better watch my ass.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Nov 19, 2008 - 09:33pm PT
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Dan committed to Adventure and Joy ... just happened to make money while he did it. Why should Mrs. Sam rob ya. Many of our patients don't work at all. Free drugs, housing and food. Why bust your butt? Let Mrs. Sam support you. IMHO
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Nov 19, 2008 - 09:41pm PT
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Can someone who is truly slumming do that much climbing/traveling while maintaining a Bonsai in their van?
I think it's one of those road less taken, kind of deals. Even if many of us will have to work until we're 104...
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Redlands
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Nov 19, 2008 - 09:42pm PT
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"Just let us keep the $ and let us take care of ourselves. IMHO"
And then the people who weren't well paid professionals for 30 years, or lost their savings when their small business went bankrupt, or lost pensions when their employer went bankrupt, or were unsophisticated and swindled by "investment advisors", or who had no discipline to save would be robbing you in the streets to survive.
Maybe you'd prefer that. And maybe you'd prefer that 98 year old grandma who outlived her savings was reduced to eating out of the garbage can and sleeping in a cardboard box.
It's a social insurance program that helps not only those who are drawing it, but society as a whole.
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GhoulweJ
Trad climber
Sacramento, CA
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Nov 19, 2008 - 09:49pm PT
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Lynn Leichtfuss,
I am sorry for your loss. I know it it is painful... Forever.
Mrs. Sam does not provide a life that would be considered suitable to myself or MisterE.
I expect MisterE has experienced more than the suckeling of the teet from Mrs Sam would provide.
I know I do, and will live, a different lifestyle than even good old Mister "O" can provide.
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Scared Silly
Trad climber
UT
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Nov 19, 2008 - 09:50pm PT
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Social Security Insurance is not a retirement program it is insurance.
Insurance - a practice or arrangement by which a company or government agency provides a guarantee of compensation for specified loss, damage, illness, or death in return for payment of a premium.
I have paid many a premium and in all likelihood will not see anything when I retire. Not bothered by this in the least bit as that is insurance - a necessary evil.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Nov 19, 2008 - 10:01pm PT
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So Scared, we had a death.... contributed 6 figures to Who ? and get nada....go figure. Social Security....bwhahaha. Scared, You pay $ and are not bothered if you get nothing in return. I wish we could all be such philanthropists, but I have bills to pay.
Will your business or any other out there forgive my debt. Just give me the money paid to Mrs. Sam so I can pay the debt.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Nov 19, 2008 - 10:14pm PT
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It's what you do that counts.
What would Joseph Campbell advise?
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Nov 19, 2008 - 10:32pm PT
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Jaybro, who the hey is J. Campbell, no time to read and dally.. we workin to pay the man....hehehhe.
Edit: GhoulweJ, thanks for your nice words. I will be ok no matter what. I can live in a tent under a tree and be happy and at peace. No need for the sheee. Just trying to keep the business afloat for the peeps that have worked there for years. I just love the day put before me. Lynnie
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MisterE
Trad climber
My Inner Nut
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 19, 2008 - 10:33pm PT
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"Find a place inside where there's joy, and the joy will burn out the pain."
to quote the man.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Nov 19, 2008 - 10:51pm PT
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Well, I don't know if you Mr. E, who I totally like and respect and met at the Facelift and Jaybro who I also met and like and respect (and LOVE the jacket of many colors....) are addressing me but I'm fine. I love life and I think that youse at the Lift and Nose Events can tell that.
Lynnie just does not like to be robbed...and she has been. She will have to work even harder to provide for the non workers while trying to end the work cycle at some point.
And Yo, I don't at all mind paying for the people that worked hard and got a bad break. But trust me dudes, and you know I do not lie. I have worked for 20 years with healthy fine people that are lazy DA and know how to work the system.
But it is to their loss. They have a HUGE NADA to show for their lives and their children are only replicating their example.
But all is well on the planet because we had a day to experience and the people we love and the Taco. All the rest...hey it's up for "De BaiT". Love you all ....Lynnie
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Nov 19, 2008 - 10:57pm PT
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I think we're all kind of saying the same thing. There's always a house note due, but accentuate the the good stuff, even while we sing the blues. more or less.
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MisterE
Trad climber
My Inner Nut
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 19, 2008 - 10:57pm PT
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5.10 R/X makes it all go away - super easy solution!
Peace to you Lynne.
Namaste, Erik
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Nov 19, 2008 - 11:25pm PT
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Taxes always seem onerous. On the other hand; I've been in the situation where we paid more in Taxes than I currently gross as a Ca Public school teacher, and I've had years as an adult that there was no reason to file. It really does work out, especially when I take a view beyond my own situation. It was always how the other parts of life were spent that really mattered.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Nov 19, 2008 - 11:31pm PT
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Jaybro, taxes are a rhinoceros ??? Ya, you got it. bwhahahah. lrl
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Nov 19, 2008 - 11:36pm PT
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Does anyone like a rhinovirus?
hyuck!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Nov 19, 2008 - 11:49pm PT
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Finally we be laughing!!!! Oh laughter feels so very GOOD...Anyone want to go to Belize ? Are there rocks in Belize. There's alot of great H20 and scuba and wunderful people. :)))
I don't think Mrs. Sam lives in Belize either.
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MisterE
Trad climber
My Inner Nut
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 19, 2008 - 11:51pm PT
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I never stopped laughing, my friends
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Nov 19, 2008 - 11:55pm PT
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Say Mr E, your first post saying yo be slumming for 34 years ...so by my calculations yo be older than the lynnie...heheheh.
so yo Grandpa....lol !!!!
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Nov 20, 2008 - 12:07am PT
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he's gotta be older than, say, us, Lynne. There's a picture of him in a book from before they had color, he hadn't quite reached his full height, yet though.
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MisterE
Trad climber
My Inner Nut
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 20, 2008 - 12:23am PT
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Dad would be proud
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Nov 20, 2008 - 12:27am PT
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Love the Laughter....and Jaybro and Mr. E and the Taco...Nite all. Have a peaceful one. :D Peace is a nice word and often a great state to be in. Notice I did not say always the state you want to be in. But that is a topic for another day. Yo smiles.
Don't be thinkin' to hard ...
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Moof
Big Wall climber
A cube at my soul sucking job in Oregon
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Nov 20, 2008 - 12:31am PT
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Curious to get mine. A few years back it showed that I made more in the year i was laid off for 9 months than I did the whole previous year killing myself to keep the stupid job. Too bad good severance packages for the working stooges are history these days.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Nov 20, 2008 - 12:36am PT
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Moof, don't want to end the evening on a sour note, but alot of it is called corporate greed. It's an honest reflection on just where we are today in the US. How many homes and islands does one need to own to make one "Happy and fulfilled" ? None. I am a conservative that was raised to take care of the people that work with you. lrl
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MisterE
Trad climber
My Inner Nut
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 20, 2008 - 12:43am PT
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Lynne, Sorry. Have you told us about your SS sheet?
Cuz that what you should do if you are going to hi-jack my thread.
Put it up, Girl.
Just sayin', E
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Nov 20, 2008 - 12:56am PT
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Sheee, just tucking my computer night, night and yo ask me for my SS sheet. I thought I said that I went to their office (where they sit behind bullet proof windows and you sit on a chair out where everyone can hear your shee) wonder what up with that scene.
They told me if I, meaning Lynne, made more than $13,000 a year in any way, shape or form NONE of the Lots of $$$ Dan contributed to the system for 44 years would be accesible to me.
I also have contributed to the system and none of that is available to me either.
Where is Robin Hood when you need him....or at least Little John?
Edit: Mighty Hiker...as usual great link. What a cutey Mr. E is.
SORRY if I hijacked yo thread. I bought some Sake and a new tambourine and some other percussion stuff. Let's make a deal !
Love Ya Mr. E....
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MisterE
Trad climber
My Inner Nut
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 20, 2008 - 01:08am PT
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If I was smart, I would've titled this
"Long-Time Dirtbagger Contest".
...and thanks Anders...
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Nov 20, 2008 - 01:45am PT
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I have SS, Railroad pension, and Calstrrs. Think they will each pay out to me?
I'm betting they will fight to the death, to see who must cough up a dime, on my behalf.
I have accepted that I will work into the grave, could be worse.
Meanwhile I will be active
"if you know what life is worth,
you will look for yours on earth"
B. Marley.
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rich sims
Trad climber
co
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Nov 20, 2008 - 02:03am PT
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My Grandfather collected RR, SS & Black Lung from 65 to the fine age of 100 years and 300 days.
Was pulled out of school in third grade to work in a coal mine in Kentucky. He was told you lernt to read don’t need to learn to write
He was one of the older ones of fourteen with a blind father.
They figured if they moved to Illinois and became English they could get away from signs that read Negros and Irish need not apply.
Started smoking corn silk at 6.
Stopped drinking hard at 65 .
Stopped smoking at 82.Walked six miles and never lost interest in lady folk.
Died because he was tired and no longer found life fun
I asked himonce why he stayed in France after the war. He replied well not many jobs back home and the French ladies and wine were plentiful.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Nov 20, 2008 - 03:23am PT
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I know we talked about this, Rich but where in Ill are you(rs) from?
Elgin, Evanston, Champagne, am i getting close?
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rich sims
Trad climber
co
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Nov 20, 2008 - 03:35am PT
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Jay
Hillary,& Heights Subs of Danville for the Irish side and Berwyn for the Slovak side
S S
What president started it ? Roosevelt? and wasn’t it for the widows with children from WW
Not that it is relevant for us who have paid in for past 30-40 years.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Nov 20, 2008 - 03:46am PT
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What's Social Security?
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 20, 2008 - 05:47am PT
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How Idiotic are you Lois? If all the social security money was invested in the market when Bush proposed it, everyone would have 40% less money now!!!
Lynnie writes
"And Yo, I don't at all mind paying for the people that worked hard and got a bad break. But trust me dudes, and you know I do not lie. I have worked for 20 years with healthy fine people that are lazy DA and know how to work the system"
Come on baby. On one hand you bad mouth the system because it's too strict in giving you out your benefits, and then diss the system because it's too plush.
I wonder if you get really into these people you are making judgments about. Everybody I know who was on welfare or disability was only allowed to have less than $2000 to their name and a car. Any more investments, nest egg or anything more than $2000, and they lose benefits fast.
Is that really so cush? How are you going to triage who gets the rock bottom help or not. If losers are forced into the streets selling dime bags or blow jobs or stealing to stay alive, will society even save money in the end? Back to the gospels for you love,.
Peace
Karl
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jstan
climber
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Nov 20, 2008 - 09:47am PT
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Lynne:
Correct me if I am wrong but your problem is you are only 35 years old. Coming on a site of old dehydrates like us to complain of that is going to be a tough sell.
Once you are something like 66-67 you get the larger of yours or Dan's social security. You can start getting reduced benefits at 62 but seeing as you are a girl, all of whom live to 108, you end up losing that way.
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