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jiimmy
Boulder climber
san diego
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 15, 2008 - 12:23am PT
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Ive been climbing a long long time. One I met in the early 80's was as arrogant as they come, but hes dead. So in respect for him, will not post his name. Whos your vote for most arrogant? Off topic? Not really, this is a climbing thread.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Nov 15, 2008 - 12:25am PT
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Arrogant ? Climber? Well to my recollection never met a really great climber that was arrogant. Some wannabes maybe. Most are pretty darn ok. :D Peace, Lynne
(But then there may be a testosterone thing that we gals miss...bwahahahah)
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 15, 2008 - 12:30am PT
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It's gotta be you jimmy for starting this type of thread.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Nov 15, 2008 - 12:33am PT
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WBraun tell Mary (Merry?) Howdy. I got to really talk to her and meet her in the Meadow Sunday. She is super and enjoyed our chat. Lynne
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 15, 2008 - 12:35am PT
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Merry's watching a documentary right now and she says hi Lynne.
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MisterE
Trad climber
My Inner Nut
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Nov 15, 2008 - 12:43am PT
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All depths of depravity and vanity should be fully explored on this public forum!
Why isn't every other thread about the defamation of the climbing community? I know some people with really stinky feet! I feel a slam coming on...
You people are so bias towards the positive! Sheesh!
Wazzup with that?
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Nov 15, 2008 - 12:47am PT
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Karl Baba
I have seen it, but you overlook it because he is such a great climber.
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 15, 2008 - 12:53am PT
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Mr E "All depths of depravity and vanity should be fully explored on this public forum!"
We already know "depravity and vanity" exist to the max, and we already know they lead to the dead end.
But the positive side only leads to the endless unlimited.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Nov 15, 2008 - 12:54am PT
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Oh no, Mr. E, were my feet really that bad at the Lift ? Yikes ! (hehehe)
Merry and W. really mean it. If you are ever in So. Cal my place is yours guys. Pretty peaceful and out in the country for So Cal. Smiles, Lynne
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wack-N-dangle
Gym climber
the ground up
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Nov 15, 2008 - 01:11am PT
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Nov 15, 2008 - 01:11am PT
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Ben Dover
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Nov 15, 2008 - 01:15am PT
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No one biting on the hook I dropped eh. LOL. okay okay. I know it was a lousy troll. Though if Russ was still posting he would tell you what an arrogant dude that Baba is. I'm certain of it.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Nov 15, 2008 - 01:22am PT
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I was reminded recently that some of the people I had been talking about are older and wiser(we hope), and would probably be the first to admit of their past arrogance. Youth tends to aspire to arrogance.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
climber
Last >>
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Nov 15, 2008 - 01:28am PT
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It's sort of the in the job-description for climbing isn't it ?
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Nov 15, 2008 - 01:31am PT
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It doesn't have to be.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Nov 15, 2008 - 01:39am PT
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Arrogant....Merriam-Webster's definition ....exaggerating or disposed to exaggerate one's own worth or importance often by an overbearing manner.
Nah, if you did that the Slander Masters would crucify ya. Then life becomes unbearable.
AND IF OUCH (or Cozmic, or someone) was with us we would now see #46 "overbearing" a climber. Lynnie
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 15, 2008 - 02:06am PT
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Moosie, me being a "great climber" is so laughable that it's like trolling with bubble gum for bait.
PEace
Karl
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Nov 15, 2008 - 10:54am PT
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Karl? Arrogant? The dude's mission statement is humility, but I hear he pulls hard for a peacenik.
The first person that comes to mind here is my good buddy Weschrist. It may be because of his 'youthful exhuberance' but sometimes he usually comes off as arrogant.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Nov 15, 2008 - 11:09am PT
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gotta be me...wait..you said climber. karl baba then.
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G_Gnome
Trad climber
In the mountains... somewhere...
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Nov 15, 2008 - 12:08pm PT
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The best climbers are cocky, not arrogant.
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Jim Wilcox
Boulder climber
Santa Barbara
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Nov 15, 2008 - 12:08pm PT
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How about least arrogant?
I'd vote for for Watusi without hesitation
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 15, 2008 - 12:28pm PT
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"wait..you said climber. karl baba then."
Funny thing is that it's true! I'm arrogant in an understated way. I'm so confident in myself that I don't have to put others down to feel good, don't have to climb well to feel good, and don't have to convince others I'm worth a sh#t to feel good.
I'm confident enough to accept my lack of confidence, particularly when it's well deserved.
I'm cocky enough to think this kind of arrogance is a sort of maturity. The arrogance you have to watch out for is "Chihuahua" arrogance where doubt and fear breed aggression.
Yosemite has seen a few real bad asses who manage to project serious arrogance. That's a good thing so we know heros aren't perfect humans
Peace
Karl
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martygarrison
Trad climber
The Great North these days......
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Nov 15, 2008 - 01:11pm PT
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Bill Denz and I discussed ego and climbing while we were doing the NA Wall in 78. We both decided that since the climbing seemed more like hard work than fun, it was our egos that put us up there. Anyway, what I have found is that many of us were somewhat arrogant in our youth but as we grew older it just kinda faded away. In terms of the least arrogant great climbers I have known it would be Croft and Bill Price.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Nov 15, 2008 - 01:26pm PT
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I'm still striving to acquire you're level of enlightenment, Wes, but people like me need time. Don't look down upon us, Wes, pity us.
C'mon, you gotta admit you're a cocky f*#ker! Some call if confidence, others see it as arrogance. In the end, it doesn't matter, it's what you do and in that regard you seem to be pretty o.k....seemingly.
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BASE666
Gym climber
Yosemite Park Ranger
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Nov 15, 2008 - 02:31pm PT
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Ivo.
he was an arrogant little bastard when I popped him for BASE jumping last as well.
666
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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Nov 15, 2008 - 02:35pm PT
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I think we all can come off as arrogant. I usually ignore the moment since it generally passes.
The real question is; who's ego threatened yours?
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
somewhere without avatars.........
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Nov 15, 2008 - 02:59pm PT
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Ivo? I've never known Ivo to be arrogant...
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Sir loin of leisure...
Trad climber
X
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Nov 15, 2008 - 05:31pm PT
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getting tooled by some prick can bring out the worst in a guy...free ivo!
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dickcilley
Social climber
A cova Dos Nenos
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Nov 18, 2008 - 11:07am PT
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Two german girls told the Fish and I that we were the most arrogant young men they had ever met.I´d have to agree.
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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Nov 18, 2008 - 03:44pm PT
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Sometimes arrogance is a tool to get you through the impossible. If you are busy thinking that nothing can stop you, than you won't waste time on seeing all the ways you can get hurt. Instead, you will focus on the path that "will" work.
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Now for the most arrogant climber I know... The one that takes the cake is so lost that he is not worth naming.
People like him live hard lives despite feeling "special" and self righteous. Because of their sense of righteousness, self worth, entitlement; they always feel cheated out of what they deserved. Because they are so focused on themselves, they lack empathy and have no close relationships with others. Nothing of value sticks since their own self worth will push it away.
Luckily he is a loner, so he's pretty harmless and... He is very fun to watch.
:)AF
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Nov 18, 2008 - 03:59pm PT
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Cilley once described them as "not arrogant, but Brusque."
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Sir loin of leisure...
Trad climber
X
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Nov 18, 2008 - 04:11pm PT
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I believe we called him (dick cylinder),it really annoyed him..
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Nov 18, 2008 - 04:12pm PT
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I can see the eye roll, right now.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Nov 18, 2008 - 06:39pm PT
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Base666 You're the arrogant little basturd for being a fun hating tool and thinking that is alright. Ivo is a free spirit who would help someone in need without a second thought.
Get a real job.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Nov 18, 2008 - 06:48pm PT
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The most arrogant climber?
Is the one having the most fun.
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Inner City
Trad climber
East Bay
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Nov 18, 2008 - 07:23pm PT
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Mark Twight seems like a candidate..
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Bldrjac
Ice climber
Boulder
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Nov 18, 2008 - 07:56pm PT
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The most arrogant climber is the one who says that,
"having fun is overrated"!
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 18, 2008 - 07:57pm PT
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"having fun is overrated"!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Nov 18, 2008 - 08:03pm PT
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The most arrogant climber is the one that looks down on all the others,..
no wait,.. that would be the "highest" climber.
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S.Powers
Social climber
Jtree, now in Alaska
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Nov 18, 2008 - 08:34pm PT
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Ivo is a cool guy, he isnt arrogant at all.
Locker said:
"most arrogant climber"...
Anyone ever meet my good buddy Mayville???...
LOL!!!...
Ill second that, i bet if you asked him hed agree, then squash your skull.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Nov 18, 2008 - 08:50pm PT
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How could anyone who has ever met Ivo describe him as arrogant? Makes no sense.
It's been my experience that the really bad ass climbers - people like Jim Bridwell and the Hubers - are far and away the least arrogant. They have nothing to prove, and are super nice guys.
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Dr. Rock
Ice climber
http://tinyurl.com/4oa5br
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Nov 18, 2008 - 08:57pm PT
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#1 Bacher - for posting the $10,000 check for anybody who could lick his chalk sack.
#2 Warren Harding - Wine and Babes in a hanging bivy, Red Corvette
working on # 3...
couch lock...Bryan Gumball type
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Nov 18, 2008 - 11:49pm PT
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I would have to agree that Bachar takes the cake for his offering the 10k check to anyone that could follow him. But thats the type of arrogance that is totally ok since no one cashed the check.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Nov 19, 2008 - 12:47am PT
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I would assume Base666 is a troll(not a ranger) and an as#@&%e.
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dogtown
climber
Where I once was,I think?
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Nov 19, 2008 - 01:05am PT
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Posting 10K when you can back it up.Super cocky yes but arrogant.NO
Back when he put up the money,few could follow him.John was in his prime and in great shape.So why not?
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dogtown
climber
Where I once was,I think?
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Nov 19, 2008 - 02:14am PT
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Ok,Walleye
Maybe I didn’t notice because I was just as arrogant but not as good at the time. It doesn't matter now.
What does matter is we are still climbing and not just living in the memories.
It’s the greatest sport / life in the world.
And I'm thankful for it.
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dickcilley
Social climber
A cova Dos Nenos
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Nov 20, 2008 - 08:33am PT
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Hey Cade Loin,You never annoyed me.You had apretty corrosive sense of humour.But I´ll never forget that you were a bro during some of those long hard winters in the valley.
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Chris2
Trad climber
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Nov 20, 2008 - 11:28am PT
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A climber that takes the time to write an article about spending thirty days in a snow cave in Patagonia… comes to mind.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Nov 20, 2008 - 11:36am PT
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That's not arrogant! That's either very bitchin', or very stupid.
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slobmonster
Trad climber
berkeley, ca
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Nov 20, 2008 - 11:39am PT
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Those persons that are globally, inextricably arrogant *regardless of activity* stand out, in this unfortunate list.
I have met some persons --that happen to be climbers, good ones-- that fit this description quite well. You know many of their names.
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