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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 17, 2008 - 02:39pm PT
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Does any type of Spider mistaken for a Black Widow?
I keep finding these spiders out in the Garden that could be black widow clones but without the red hourglass.
Please Advise at your Leisure.
Juan
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Oct 17, 2008 - 02:43pm PT
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Yes, its an Obama spider. You're doomed. Doomed I tell ya.
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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Oct 17, 2008 - 02:47pm PT
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pick it up and let it bite you and report back to us and let us know.
thanks!
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
somewhere without avatars.........
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Oct 17, 2008 - 02:51pm PT
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Are we talking juvenile or adult widows? Juveniles are not black, but rather white with brown stripes to darker with spots. Depends on their age...
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 17, 2008 - 03:09pm PT
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Has anyone inspected Obama's Belly?
Juan
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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Oct 17, 2008 - 04:05pm PT
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You know I once got bit by a black widow.
The reaction was horrible.
It vaguely reminded me of something I saw on this site recently...
Maybe I can find it...
One sec...
Oh! here it is!
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Oct 18, 2008 - 12:53am PT
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Juan, you have far better odds getting laid within your lifetime then being bitten by a spider. Long odds either way, but the spider thing is probably not going to happen...
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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Oct 18, 2008 - 12:54am PT
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that said....
my money is on the spider.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Oct 18, 2008 - 01:00am PT
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Another identifying sign of black widow spiders is that their webs are kinda messy and disorganized. Like you'd expect from an angsty teenage punk rock spider.
peace
Karl
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Oct 18, 2008 - 01:22am PT
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I've never been bitten by a spider...
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drljefe
climber
Calizona
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Oct 18, 2008 - 01:25am PT
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I got bit by a brown recluse. Not pretty.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Oct 18, 2008 - 01:30am PT
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Rocky Mtn spotted tick fever (or the other one)
scorpion sting
4 wasp stings
infected cat bite
other things Are more likely...
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drljefe
climber
Calizona
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Oct 18, 2008 - 01:37am PT
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I will forever store my clothes inside out, and shake them out.
The crater the bite left was serious- luckily it was on my rump.
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Oct 18, 2008 - 01:42am PT
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Damn, Healyje, I've gotten laid AND been bitten by a spider, both more than once, in my lifetime. Tell me, what does this mean?
BUT to be fair, none of the spider bites were from the really nasty spiders.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Oct 18, 2008 - 01:54am PT
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hey there drljefe... say, my son, in south texas got bit TWICE (at two different time from the brown recluse---he surely does NOT like anything to do with spiders now, or ever again)...
we think from a rusty old car he had been working on.... could have messed up his knee... he was blessed and got through it all.... think the other bit was on his arm? or leg.. cant remember...
yeah, BAD stuff, though, and it progresses too fast, too...
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drljefe
climber
Calizona
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Oct 18, 2008 - 02:15am PT
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I was in 6th grade and one day noticed blood on my OP shorts(does that date me?) but had no pain. By the next day my butt cheek had a half-cantaloupe sized sac on it! I went to the doctor and as soon as he saw it he said "OH SH*T!" Sorry if this is gross but he popped it like a zit with tongue depressors and the blood that came out was black. For months skin flaked off the crater. Still have a dimple! I don't kill spiders but I sure don't like them!
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Oct 18, 2008 - 02:47am PT
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Nah Roxy, the gal I'm with is MUCH hotter and MUCH more wholesome that that one in the pic. And she does not bite.
OOPS, I guess I made a grammatical boo-boo there! I SHOULD have said I've gotten laid BY A HUMAN FEMALE and bitten by a spider more than once, but not simultaneously, etc., etc., LOL.
DOn'tcha just love the little vagaries of language?
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Willoughby
Social climber
Truckee, CA
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Oct 18, 2008 - 05:17am PT
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Rokjox,
I think that's the closely related Red-backed Spider from Down-Under.
Nefarius,
Gotta correct you on one point. The look and color of the juvs depends on the sex, and they look quite different from the early instars. What you've described sounds like a male, pretty much regardless of age. The females turn black pretty early on, but they also have these red/orange racing stripes bordered in yellow or cream. The hourglass is also bordered by cream. They're quite flashy. At least that's my experience with Western Black Widows. I just saw a sub-adult female Wed. morning, out in the sagebrush north of Reno. Scooped it up for my Ecology students to see. Here's a big adult female munching on a Mormon cricket from a few years ago.
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Jim E
climber
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Oct 18, 2008 - 09:20am PT
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TradIsGood
Chalkless climber
the Gunks end of the country
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Oct 18, 2008 - 02:38pm PT
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How could you tell the religion of the cricket?
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knudeNoggin
climber
Falls Church, VA
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Oct 18, 2008 - 11:54pm PT
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To answer the OP,
YES, there are other spiders of the same sort as a Black Widow
(i.e., that hang upside-down in webs, relatively small, with
small jaws) that could be mistaken for them, esp. by someone
unfamiliar with spiders.
*kN*
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Oct 19, 2008 - 12:13am PT
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"How could you tell the religion of the cricket?"
Doesn't it depend on what preys on it?
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