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just passing thru
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 9, 2008 - 10:08pm PT
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…and anything outside of the narrow liberal view of what is ‘tolerable’ is quickly stamped as racist, sexist, hate speech or xenophobic.
Political Correctness is the new 1984.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Oct 10, 2008 - 04:24am PT
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hey there, say, just passing thru,
i am not exactly sure what you are referring to, or in which ways this is spilling the banks, as you could be leading in two directions, depending on the situations...
but you DID get me thinking here:
this whole business is very complex and very sad, these days as to what is correct, and what is labeled as hate, etc...
the only example i can kind of uses, to try and show what i mean, is:
when growing up in a very large family, for example, where all are different:
we did not cater to each other's whims, and we had some disagreements, but we learned to get along, truely we did---but if we did not agree, and if we said things that were not according to the others thought-pattern, it did not mean that we hated each other--we did not "doctor it up to meet someone elses standards, we tried to CONTINUALLY communicate, and at times in a variety of ways, until "we got a handle" on learning how to be a family... setting "terms" as to being politically correct, DID NOT DO IT----but learning respect for each other along the "climb of life" through relationships DID...
as politically correctness, if it WAS ever to have been thought to have been tried, in such a vast home, would have done this:
just caused the REAL FEELINGS to be hidden under a "guise" and annamosities would have surely festered, and/or mockeries and snide remards would have been done and said in "dark corner" behind the others back--leading to mistrust, and eventural "show-downs" somewhere along the future...
only healing the heart, where all "manner of unhealthy treatment" comes from, will heal relationships to those in the family----say, it applies to the world, around us, as well...
yet now a days, folks are being taught not to understand this process... and the individual and the mass-production-assembly-line-folk are starting to clash, more and more, in the social arena....
wow--sure wonder if this is going on in the HOME... how will brothers and sisters be relating to each other, come adulthood, if the "old fashioned" ways of "exercising" ones inner man, are "paralyzed"...
hmmm... only time will tell, i reckon...
well, so far, this is not happening in our small neck of the woods, too much, in the families that are relatives of mine, but these kids are not in a big social circle, and their families are not so much "into all that"...
how about you all... how are your little ones doing?
oh, well----not sure exactly what you meant, but it kind of steered me this way...
thanks for the share...
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jbar
Mountain climber
Inside my head
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Oct 10, 2008 - 04:32am PT
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Oh and for DEAR SAKE
Please don't say you "hate" something or those who are always right will assume you mean you want to take a machete to it.
The PC police lurk on the Supertopo.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Oct 10, 2008 - 04:44am PT
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hey there jbar.. say, i was just going to sleep and i saw that this post moved a nudge...
say, as to words, too, and how folks respond to them, you also got me thinking...
you know---in a way---- this kind of trouble is kind of like the example of the tower of babal:
no one really knowing what the other one is saying...
this can be a very sad thing, huh...
or worse:
it can turn into a very rageful thing, too...
now, it kind of makes me picture the tower of babal situation and it makes me wonder about all the reactions that folks must have exibited... depending on the hearts of the individuals, i wonder how many folks tried to reach out in kindness and try to learn what was going on....
*please understand folks, this is just an example for those that would believe that type of situation, as a historical situation---not meaning anything bad to push one over with, as to how you feel... just sharing an idea, and a wonder, for to learn from, is all...
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jbar
Mountain climber
Inside my head
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Oct 10, 2008 - 04:52am PT
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Neebee I've been meaning to write you back. At work now and gotta fix my sis's A/C in the morning.
My comment was directed at a particular person who likes to be more a part of the problem than the solution.
There comes a time when people need to stop being so offended about everything and just get on with life. Life in general isn't fair. For every one of the "fittest" there is a not so fittest. Sometimes I think we are trying to save the world so hard we are destroying it. Like trying to drive a screw with a hammer.
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Oct 10, 2008 - 10:02am PT
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which is why, jpt, we can not have an honest "conservation about race"
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Jack Burns
climber
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Oct 10, 2008 - 10:12am PT
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I live in a town infested with the politically correct. I love how these folks will browbeat you for saying "black" or "gay" but will describe their neighbors as "redneck" or "white trash" without pause.
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Tomcat
Trad climber
Chatham N.H.
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Oct 10, 2008 - 10:23am PT
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Kind of like"celebrating diversity",as long as the people think just like you.
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Pennsylenvy
Gym climber
Fannie's Crack, AZ
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Oct 10, 2008 - 10:26am PT
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Bunk,
this is being apologetic for racism. If your not a racist don't worry about it. Say what you want when you want to. But don't try to carve out niches for your being allowed or supposed to be allowed to say something. It's a free country.
Edit: Oh yea I forgot, if you are racist you might as well admit it at least to yourself.
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jstan
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Oct 10, 2008 - 10:31am PT
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Considering the talent humans have for deception, our most potent weapon, these discussions can go on for centuries and lead nowhere.
Cut to the chase.
When you are standing in front of some stranger, do you feel they have exactly the same right you have to be alive?
And if you do, what are you willing to do about it?
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Witch Hunter
Social climber
Templeton, CA
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Oct 10, 2008 - 11:11am PT
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"When you are standing in front of some stranger, do you feel they have exactly the same right you have to be alive?
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No, not with people, we blew it as a species. Now when I see Pronghorn Antelope, Giant Kangaroo Rats and Bluntnose Leopard Lizards, I do feel they have the same right.
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just passing thru
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 10, 2008 - 12:16pm PT
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I am certainly not a racist.
I grew up in lily-white Boulder and now live in a ‘colorful’ part of Denver. I cannot stand White Boulder, it is so boring, give me real diversity any day to Boulder’s: “I’m diverse because I eat Thai food, attend yoga classes and have prayer flags on my front porch.
Please…
Remember Hurricane Katrina?
The reality was the Hurricane exposed America’s underbelly as unprepared, lazy people that were unable to take care of themselves. They happened to be black so we were not allowed to have an opinion of situation beyond the PC- ‘blame the gov’.
If these refugees would have been white folk, no one would have blamed Bush, the left would have joked, “they must of have been too busy watching NASCAR to evacuate.”
By the PC-liberal's measure, I am a racist. Through the eyes of my Black and Mexican neighbors, I am a good person.
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Oct 10, 2008 - 12:30pm PT
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Remember Hurricane Katrina?
The reality was the Hurricane exposed America’s underbelly as unprepared, lazy people that were unable to take care of themselves. They happened to be black so we were not allowed to have an opinion of situation beyond the PC- ‘blame the gov’.
If these refugees would have been white folk, no one would have blamed Bush, the left would have joked, “they must of have been too busy watching NASCAR to evacuate.”
Just passing gas what a load of crap! there are a whole lot of Katrina victims who would be more than offended by your ass-essment that their suffering was because they were lazy and unprepared. You sound like a racist to me.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Oct 10, 2008 - 12:32pm PT
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It's me! I'm the victim! Your language of inclusion marginalizes my narrow mindedness! THERE IS NO JUSTICE!
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Oct 10, 2008 - 12:33pm PT
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A fundamental if not the deciding issue in the current US presidential election is race. A significant proportion of voters would never vote for a black. Some blatantly, but many might not even be able to admit it to themselves. It's easy to find pretexts for not voting for someone when you don't want to vote for her/him anyway.
Probably a higher proportion of Republican than Democrat voters are influenced by the race of the candidate - the Democrats have, after all, come to symbolize civil liberties and equality. And of course, with the shoe on the other foot, perhaps a higher proportion of black voters (mostly Democratic, I believe) are likely to vote, and vote for a black candidate, than might otherwise be the case.
But it's a largely undiscussed and very troubling issue. See today's Daily Telegraph (an influential British conservative newspaper) for more.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/3167558/Barack-Obamas-race-remains-an-issue-in-swing-state-Ohio.html
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Witch Hunter
Social climber
Templeton, CA
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Oct 10, 2008 - 12:34pm PT
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There were plenty of lazy, unprepared white people that got devastated by Katrina.
Does that make me racist?
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just passing thru
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 10, 2008 - 01:01pm PT
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Philo from the People’s Republic of Boulder Proclaims:
“there are a whole lot of Katrina victims who would be more than offended by your ass-essment that their suffering was because they were lazy and unprepared. You sound like a racist to me.”
PC thinking to a tee: Assuming an opinion will offend a certain group that neither party is a member of.
Witchhunter:
“There were plenty of lazy, unprepared white people that got devastated by Katrina.”
The story and resulting fodder was from the media focus on the blacks ‘trapped’ at the Super Dome.
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Tomcat
Trad climber
Chatham N.H.
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Oct 10, 2008 - 01:03pm PT
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Senator Obama's race was brought up many times here on Supertopo in the early stages of the Democratic primaries.My opinion,then,as now,is that for every "white" person that would not vote for him,there is a corresponding"black"who will just because of his race.I typed it a few times,but bailed because i knew I'd be labeled racist.Norweigian finally posted it.
The sad part is that Obama has gotten a free pass from the media in this election because you can't call him out on anything without being labeled a racist.
Palin's daughter's pregnancy would be case in point.If Obama had a pregnant seventeen year old daughter,that discussion would be completely off the table.
I'd vote for Condi Rice in a minute.Or Colin Powell.Better yet,both on the same ticket.
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PP
Trad climber
SF,CA
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Oct 10, 2008 - 01:07pm PT
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there were alot of elderly and infants and people without cars in Katrina. where does lazy come into this equation?
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Witch Hunter
Social climber
Templeton, CA
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Oct 10, 2008 - 01:08pm PT
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"Palin's daughter's pregnancy would be case in point.If Obama had a pregnant seventeen year old daughter,that discussion would be completely off the table."
Bullsh#t. It actually would be on the table. No way in hell the Republicans would let that one go. But if you're white trash, raising the next generation of white trash, you get a free pass in this country.
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Tomcat
Trad climber
Chatham N.H.
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Oct 10, 2008 - 01:13pm PT
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Which brings us neatly around to just what Jack Burns posted...lol.
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dirtbag
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Oct 10, 2008 - 01:14pm PT
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Tomcat, it's because the numbers don't add up to support what you are saying.
12% of the voting population is black.
80-90% are dems: they'd vote for Hillary if she was the nominee, and she is white, btw.
Even if the number jumps to 100% voting this year for Obama because of his skin color, you are still looking at an increase in only 1-2% in Obama's vote total.
Now...20% of the democratic primary voters in West Virginia admitted race was an issue for their selection. And these are just the ones who would admit it in person to an interviewer. This total is likely higher because admitting racism is considered a social faux pas. W VA may or may not be representative of the rest of the USA, but extrapoloate it as you wish across the rest of the US white population, which is over 50%.
Sorry, it just doesn't add up Tomcat.
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Oct 10, 2008 - 01:16pm PT
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For Tomcat...
These are not my words but food for thought.
'What if John McCain were a former president of the Harvard
Law Review?
What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his
graduating class?
What if McCain were still married to the first woman he
said 'I do' to?
What if Obama were the candidate who left his first wife
after she no longer measured up to his standards?
What if Michelle Obama were a wife who not only became
addicted to pain killers, but acquired them illegally
through her charitable organization?
What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?
What if Obama were a member of the Keating-5*?
* The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused
of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal
as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late
1980s and early 1990s.
What if McCain were a charismatic, eloquent speaker?
If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe
the election numbers would be as close as they are?
This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and
minimizes positive qualities in one candidate and
emphasizes negative qualities in another when there is a
color difference.
PS: What if Barack Obama had an unwed, pregnant teenage
daughter....
You are The Boss... which team would you hire?
With America facing historic debt, 2 wars, stumbling health
care, a weakened dollar, all-time high prison population,
mortgage crises, bank foreclosures, etc:
Educational Background:
Obama:
Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a
Specialization in International Relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna C#m Laude
Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in
Political Science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)
vs.
McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899
Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism
Now, which team are you going to hire ?
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Witch Hunter
Social climber
Templeton, CA
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Oct 10, 2008 - 01:20pm PT
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LEB, how can I be racist for calling people white trash when I'm white?
And where's your evidence that Edwards ever fathered a baby out of wedlock? As far as I know he was just banging her, his buddy acccepted responsibility for the baby.
LEB is spinning again, don't drop the Koolade!
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just passing thru
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 10, 2008 - 01:26pm PT
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PP:
"there were alot of elderly and infants and people without cars in Katrina"
Sure this is where you can blame the local leadership of the Democrats for not properly preparing their citizens for a storm that was on N.O. tract for days
Those in the Super Dome were the underbelly of our society. If the Super Dome refugees were white folk, I would feel the same way about them: unprepared, lazy people that were unable to take care of themselves.
It's not like this was an earthquake with no warning, everyone knew Katrina was coming.
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Tomcat
Trad climber
Chatham N.H.
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Oct 10, 2008 - 01:36pm PT
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Dirtbag,I know how much you want to spin this that way,but your post does not add up,simply because you chose West Virginia as a litmus test.There are many states in the Union where people care little,if at all,about people's color.In my estimation,the percentages of prejudiced whites is about equal to that of blacks overall.
Philo,on paper your man looks of substance,in real life,be honest.President of Harvard Law Review,published nothing.Eight years as Illinois State Senator,along with 66 other senators and 118 legislators in that state.So worried about ruffling feathers he voted present mostly.Community organizer,what is that?Communities are organized by nature,did he start one?
McCain graduated low in a class at the Naval Academy,everyone there is an overacheiver.Obama get's a free pass on his past decisions because he never made any,and has just a wee tiny amount of time in the Senate,the real Senate.Looking at the money he diverted to his pals in Illinois,I'm certain he would not be in the Senate as long as McCain without a few snafus,just comes with the territory.
I don't see where Obama has held a single performance based job in his entire life.He is good at getting job titles,and exploiting them to get a bigger one.If elected president,for the first time in his life,he will have to actually perform.That will be interesting.
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PP
Trad climber
SF,CA
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Oct 10, 2008 - 01:44pm PT
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JPT if come upon an injured person in a car crash do you first ask them if they are lazy? or unprepared? they need help, you help them.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Oct 10, 2008 - 01:46pm PT
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"lazy" people in Katrina -
What an awful, but telling, thing to write.
People of all colors stayed and evacuated from the Katrina hurricane.
Elderly people in particular are wont to stay put in crises, for they haven't got the resources(money, transit, place to go) available. Elderly also tend to become nervous when faced with unfamiliar scenarios; they'd rather stick to their routines than deal with chaos.
Many people couldn't have left had they wanted to. One DOES need resources....like money, transit and a place to go to. Some people stayed because their family pets would not be accepted in shelters. You can bet your ass I would not abandon MY dog if I was told I had to leave him behind.
The afult of the Katrina debacle came down on Bush for ONE reason, because he had appointed his good friend "Brownie" to head FEMA.
FEMA DID do a heck of a job in NYC after the 9/11 crisis, which was really when the organization came into public eye for most of us. It was a functioning and pretty effective organization.
And Bush stuck his finger in it when he should have left it alone.
The man he appointed was completely incompetent and utterly failed when he was needed to shine. People DIED because of that man's lack of competency and experience. DIED. Left in wheelchairs by the side of the road, drowned in the waters and starved waiting in their homes. because of the failure of the system; not because they were lazy.
Those who had no resources to evacuate the city were told to go to that stadium. They did what they were TOLD, and they TRUSTED their government.
And they were left there alone.
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Oct 10, 2008 - 01:48pm PT
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Tomcat stop and look at it hisway for just a moment.
What of the comparitive experience of Palin? If McCain wins and dies she steps in.
If Obama wins and dies then Biden steps in.
Now Biden has at least as much practical experience as McCain.
Can you honestly say that Palin's resume even remotly stacks up to Obama's?
Based on any of the criteria you stated in your post that questioned Obama's credentials what can you truly say Palin has ever done that qualifys her?
Great post Happiegrrrl
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SMQ
climber
Grand Rapids, MI
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Oct 10, 2008 - 02:41pm PT
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just passing thru: "I am certainly not a racist."
Well, I am. I find it more difficult to trust people I have a harder time understanding, I find it easier blame people who are different from me, I make a host of assumptions and generalizations about someone based on nothing more than the color of their skin, the fit of their clothes, the manner of their speech, and I do it every day. I fight it, I attempt to consciously recognize and compensate for my own bias, I try not to be a racist, a classist, an elitist, but I often fail. Despite my efforts, I am a racist.
And it seems to me that unless more people on all sides are willing to treat racism as something that's *here*, not *there* -- unless more people are willing to own the issue themselves -- not one thing of any importance will be changed. Not one d@mn thing.
--SMQ
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 10, 2008 - 02:41pm PT
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LOL, Talus fool!
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Oct 10, 2008 - 02:45pm PT
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nice post SMQ, It's better to know yourself and take the time to adjust for our preconception than to just stew in denial
"I don't see where Obama has held a single performance based job in his entire life.He is good at getting job titles,and exploiting them to get a bigger one.If elected president,for the first time in his life,he will have to actually perform.That will be interesting."
Thing is, Obama chooses good staff around him while McCain choose political karl rove clone operatives. The president can't know everything. He delegates %90 of everything and is the leader who inspires and make priority calls. Obama should excel.
peace
Karl
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just passing thru
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 10, 2008 - 02:59pm PT
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So, it is okay to rail on white trash (white people of lower economic and social status)
But if we point out the “Black Trash” (Super Dome folks) it is taboo?
Dallas's crime rate increased when the Super Dome refugees started showing up.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Oct 10, 2008 - 05:20pm PT
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"But if we point out the “Black Trash” (Super Dome folks) it is taboo? "
This happens all the time pretty much. People have just gotten very good at using other words for it. Reagan was the master with his "welfare Cadillac queens." There was no question as to the race of the people he was referring to. In fact "welfare recipients" became essentially a euphemism for "poor and black."
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Witch Hunter
Social climber
Templeton, CA
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Oct 10, 2008 - 05:39pm PT
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DJ, the fact of the matter is an overwhelming majority of people on welfare are white. To reference to Welfare Cadillac Queens is meant to work on people bigotry.
When I see white people using food stamps, using the ER for medical treatment, and then going out and getting into a new $40k SUV (because the value of a vehicle can't be used against you when you apply for assistance), in my eyes, they are trash, white trash to be specific.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Oct 10, 2008 - 05:40pm PT
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And you're posting this just passing thru because out of your selfless concern for others?
What a warm, decent human being you must be. Thank you for caring.
Why don't you just keep "passing thru."
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Oct 10, 2008 - 05:52pm PT
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Witch: Yes I'm aware of the real welfare demographics, that is part of what makes it so racist.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Oct 10, 2008 - 06:03pm PT
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There's nobody more PC in this country than uptight conservatives.
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Pennsylenvy
Gym climber
Fannie's Crack, AZ
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Oct 10, 2008 - 06:21pm PT
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'Dallas' crime rate went up when they showed up'.......This is truely a stab in the dark. Crime rates have been tied to so many ambiguous figures. The book freakonomics goes into a study on crime rates and how everyone ascribed crime to a certain factor when in reality years later that factor had nothing to do with it. Crime rates fluctuate due to a variety of factors. Give me a source and a direct link to Katrina victim's relationship to crime in Dallas and I'll believe you. Other than that you are just trying to defend your position. This thread now has become about questioning weather you are actually a racist, or just an observant person. Your arguments have a revealing direction in them though. If your an observant person, no problem,if your racist it helps to admit it. I am a racist to the extent that I have natural inclinations that may make me fear people who aren't like me. You can say your not a racist, but the direction of your arguments make me wonder.
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jbar
Mountain climber
Inside my head
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Oct 10, 2008 - 07:10pm PT
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"Well, I am. I find it more difficult to trust people I have a harder time understanding, I find it easier blame people who are different from me, I make a host of assumptions and generalizations about someone based on nothing more than the color of their skin, the fit of their clothes, the manner of their speech, and I do it every day. I fight it, I attempt to consciously recognize and compensate for my own bias, I try not to be a racist, a classist, an elitist, but I often fail. Despite my efforts, I am a racist"
We call that biased or judgemental. If you don't harbor pre judgements about a stranger until you see how they dress, hear how they talk, etc. then you are making a judgement based on the way they CHOSE to represent themselves. If you already have an idea of how you believe them to be it makes you prejudiced. Not racist. Why does everything have to be racist? Racism is more along the lines of Chris Rock making fun of "White people", not thinking poorly of a person because every word out of their mouth starts with F.
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jstan
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Oct 10, 2008 - 08:19pm PT
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From the US Constitution:
“We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
And from the Declaration of Independence:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.”
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Oct 10, 2008 - 11:14pm PT
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hey there... wow, this sure got busy in here, and it was such a tiny post/thread, last night... say, a lot of it has moved out into the political field, too....
which of course, is affected by such things as were started here... i will sneak back and see what is going on, now...
say, jbar, in your last post, i noticed this important thing that folks innocently can't help but notice, things that are:
truly so... it is: "different" or "differences"...
and of course, even critters notice things that are different and CAN but not always, shy away from it all... people can do this too, as to things, situations, or people... ... again, this issue of "different" comes into play---and really CAN for kids:
it still seems like a good thing to help kids learn about things, situations and people and whatever else seems different, meaning to learn whatever facts they can, etc... this way, they learn to embrace working relationships on how to handle life in ways that lead folks to find a "common core ground" and work from there on these "differences"....
there is a reason things are differnt---even as gardens are different... and fruit is different... etc....
far too often, though, different breeds-up hostility, and after being a mom so many years, i can see so much that goes wrong in childhood during the crucial years of "exploring ones world...
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Flashlight
climber
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Oct 11, 2008 - 12:04am PT
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Tolerance only applies to conservatives and Christians...they are the only ones required to be tolerant.
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Porkchop_express
Trad climber
Gunks, NY
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Oct 11, 2008 - 12:17am PT
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I'd like to add my worthless 2 cents in the mix. Jbar, you make a really valuable point that would help us have an honest "conservation about race". It might help us have an honest conversation about race too... who knows. Prejudice is not tantamount to racism. It is simply a crutch of being human- one that we all must over come for ourselves. Promoting a double standard is simply the way the self righteous seek to take the spotlight off of their own issues by being more vocal about some one elses short comings.
The only thing that breaks down prejudicial barriers is talking honestly and not being afraid of being pounced on for being a racist. There is plenty of ignorance to go around and political correctness serves only to make a small group of people feel good about themselves and keeps the rest of society scared and suspicious of eachother.
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 11, 2008 - 12:34am PT
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Maybe this will make conservatives feel better. It seems fitting.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Oct 11, 2008 - 03:16am PT
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Again, I have climbed El Cap with republicans.
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jbar
Mountain climber
Inside my head
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Oct 11, 2008 - 05:20pm PT
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True words Mr. Porkchop
Jbro way to reach across the isle. McCain would be proud. lol
I once asked to see a different Dr. because the one my ins gave me was Indian. Never even spoke to him. Just say that he was Indian and asked to see someone else. Am I a racist.
Heck no. I have indian friends, love Indian food, have dated an Indian girl. I have had experiences that turned me off of Indian Dr.'s so I guess you could say that I am prejudiced against Indian Dr.'s. Everyone has prejudisms. Stereotypes are not always wrong either. They exist for a reason. Comedians make fun of them all the time. All of this does not have to be negative.
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