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matty
Big Wall climber
Valencia, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 25, 2008 - 08:37pm PT
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Half Dome has now been snowboarded and free soloed. When will the first bike descent happen?
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Sep 25, 2008 - 09:11pm PT
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Uh, isn't that technically wilderness? And bikes are 'motorized' like my shaver and are illegal, no?
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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Sep 25, 2008 - 09:23pm PT
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"Only last metre is dangerous."
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dmalloy
Trad climber
eastside
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Sep 25, 2008 - 09:23pm PT
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mechanized, not motorized....
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Sep 25, 2008 - 10:07pm PT
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Half Dome was free soloed many, many years ago by some native american who we will never be able to google. Now if you mean the NW Face- well I don't believe that has ever been snowboarded.
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nutjob
Stoked OW climber
San Jose, CA
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Sep 25, 2008 - 10:53pm PT
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It would only be interesting if it included a descent of the slabs approach.
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GDavis
Trad climber
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Sep 25, 2008 - 10:56pm PT
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If a tree fell in the woods and no one was around to enter it into wikipedia...
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rockermike
Mountain climber
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Sep 25, 2008 - 11:36pm PT
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How about unicycle descent? I'll bet Largo could swing it.
No, actually, it doesn't seem to me that it would be difficult to bike down it?? Maybe dangerous but if you don't fall and have sticky tires and good brake pads??
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Basilisk
Ice climber
New Hampshire
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Sep 26, 2008 - 12:00am PT
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Sep 26, 2008 - 05:16am PT
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Yeah bikes are banned from wilderness. Technically speaking analog watches and manual can openers are banned from wilderness.
A couple jerks biked from Tuolumne to Mammoth back in 1999 or 2001 I can't remember. A horse ranger tried to chase them down but they were already out of the park.
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CF
climber
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Sep 26, 2008 - 10:52am PT
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Yes bikes are not allowed but a huge group of horses can go where ever they want and trash meadows and leave sh*t everywhere. We went hiking to Smedburg Lake one time way out in Yosemite's north country and there was this beautiful meadow next to Smedburg Lake that we wanted to have lunch at. When we got in the meadows we couldnt find a place to sit down as there was horse sh*t EVERYWHERE!
Here are some horse I saw the other day in Tuolumne Meadows and they just trashed the meadow.
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drgonzo
Trad climber
east bay, CA
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Sep 26, 2008 - 01:22pm PT
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Yeah. No news flash here.
So quit whining about it and do something. Or are you part of Phil Grammie's Nation of Whiners? Just asking.
Join the High Sierra Hikers Association who have been fighting excessive horse packer damage in the Sierra (in the courts) for years and have won some impressive gains, BTW. But there's more work to do. Especially if the Repugs stay in power in the executive branch.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Sep 26, 2008 - 01:25pm PT
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"Only last metre is dangerous."
I remember that.
"Tomorrow Hans vill try bicycle descent of the Apron." or something (maybe it Was Half Dome)
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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Sep 26, 2008 - 01:36pm PT
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"Glacier Apron Point"
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Sep 26, 2008 - 02:33pm PT
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great cartoon!
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Sep 26, 2008 - 02:56pm PT
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There must be some way to combine the southwest face of Half Dome with the Diving Board, parachute to the Slabs, and down to Mirror Lake. A trifecta!
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Sep 26, 2008 - 02:58pm PT
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I love you guys, you are thinkers. The tri-fecta!
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TwistedCrank
climber
Ideeho
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Sep 26, 2008 - 02:59pm PT
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Whatever happened to the good old days of just hiking to the cliff, uncoiling the rope, racking up, doing the climb, hiking back to the car and enjoying a beer?
Why do we feel compelled to add all this fancy stuff?
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Anguish
Mountain climber
Jackson Hole Wyo.
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Sep 26, 2008 - 06:22pm PT
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"Yeah bikes are banned from wilderness.
‘Maybe wilderness in the NP system, but certainly not wilderness on FS land.‘”
Actually, certainly wilderness on FS land. parks seem much more reluctant to impose wilderness restrictions on their lands than the FS.
Gannett, in the Wind River Range – Bridger and Fitzpatrick national forest wilderness areas – has been climbed several times via bike approach. Ranger caught one crew and took the nuts for their front wheels.
What about a skateboard?
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matty
Big Wall climber
Valencia, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 26, 2008 - 07:01pm PT
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How bout rollerblades?
Death slabs would up the ante. Mainly I was just wondering how possible it would be when i posed the question. I had visions of sitting at the top of the cables route (cables down), and straight lining it to the bottom.
Anyone know if you can get C4 tires?
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
somewhere without avatars.........
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Sep 26, 2008 - 07:21pm PT
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"I had visions of sitting at the top of the cables route (cables down), and straight lining it to the bottom. "
hahaha good luck with that.
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originalpmac
Trad climber
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Sep 26, 2008 - 10:53pm PT
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these are all great ideas, mainly the trifecta. I am interested in the Native American Donini mentioned, whats the story on that?
Skateboarding slabs anywhere is something I have thought about for a while. Problem there would be you would then want to grind or slide some edge, end up chipping the rock, maybe even waxing it (the equivalent to pitons and chalk) and it would end up looking kinda haggard, (not to mention the blood left over from really eating it). But rollerblades? to hell with fruit boots. Those thing are LAME! anyone every see the tricks they do or the names they give em? 'Twinkle Toes" and some crap. lame. all the way. Even the demos I've seen in big half pipes with back flips are lame. so keep em off the slabs, cause it would be lame.
used to be a young skateboard punk kid EDIT: sorry, had to rant about rollerblades, i still think its is funny to harp on em. and i really try to be real fair these days, i swear
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Zander
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Sep 26, 2008 - 11:23pm PT
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Hey, how do they get those bikes up there anyway?
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Dr. Rock
Ice climber
http://tinyurl.com/4oa5br
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Sep 26, 2008 - 11:56pm PT
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They put Helium in the tyres.
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corniss chopper
Mountain climber
san jose, ca
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Sep 27, 2008 - 04:06pm PT
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Escaped herd of pack animals; Virginia Canyon. -No bikes-
...One morning this summer while camped in Virginia canyon,
eating breakfast, saw 25 horses and mules (not sure of ratio)
pass our camp going north at a fast trot. We gawked because
none of them had packs on, and no Humans were with them.
Some were roped together, while others trailed lines in the dirt.
Obviously an escape was on!
I commented to my partner and we both cheered!
When the dust settled we started north towards Virginia Pass but were immediately overtaken by a man and a women on horses.
This "pursuit posse" called out an explanation that the previous night their stock had snapped a rope and escaped. Duh!
Later me re-met the captured herd going south back to their Smedburg Lake camp! (a long way away)
Believe me, the trail was a froth a dust, rocks, and turds after this kind of traffic.
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Send
Boulder climber
Three Rivers, California
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Sep 27, 2008 - 04:39pm PT
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How about a base jump? Or better yet....a slackline from Half Dome to North Dome !!!
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Flashlight
climber
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Sep 27, 2008 - 06:46pm PT
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Wes, bicycles are KNOTT allowed on wilderness land, whether in an FS or in a NP.
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TradIsGood
Chalkless climber
the Gunks end of the country
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Sep 27, 2008 - 11:32pm PT
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C4 is way too soft for this effort.
If you intend to do it (and live), you will need to work out a switch back route. For that you will need a maximal friction coefficient while also rolling.
The maximum friction will be required as you turn from straight down to working back across the slope. Super soft rubber, while compliant will just shear off and the tire will transition from rolling to sliding.
If this is not immediately obvious, consider motorcycle racing on ice. Their is no simple rubber compound that will make you a winner.
Likewise you will need much higher tech tires than straight rubber of plastic compounds - and a budget! :-O
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Double D
climber
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Sep 28, 2008 - 01:10am PT
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It's always bummed me out that Mt. Bikes weren't legal on more trails. I've allways thought they could do a lotto-permit deal to limit the number, regulate insurance for heli-rescues and keep folks accountable.
PCH...all the way to Tahoe? Way cool! When I used to live in Nevada City we used to ride a very cool section of PCH between the Buttes and some lake to the south. It was like a custom made trail for bikes!
CF...I totally agree, horse hoofs are the worst for trails. Besides, when was the last time you saw a equestrian group stage a day of trail maintenance? When I lived in San Clemente and rode the San Juan Trail several times per week it would get flooded and washed out every other year or so and the forest service NEVER had to do any maintenance. It was always a group effort of those of us who rode it a lot.
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Rickster
Trad climber
Pine Bush,NY
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Sep 28, 2008 - 07:15am PT
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MTB's in NPs are restricted to roads, dirt or paved. Redwoods National Park is the only NP I know of that has (legal) single track w/a route that follows the coast then cuts back in overland to the highway. Olympic National has some very nice unpaved roads that climb on up to ridge or two with great views and fast descents. Kind of a blast passing the 4 wheelers on the descent, especially after eating their dust on up. And of course there's Canyon Land's miles of dirt roads. RC
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dolomite_said
Gym climber
) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) . . . Buffering
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Sep 28, 2008 - 10:27pm PT
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I used to ride from Horseshoe Lake to Red's Meadow via a section of the PCT near Red Cones (late 80s), but as the years went on horses pretty much destroyed the trail for (bike)riding purposes, or for even walking .
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east side underground
Trad climber
crowley ca
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Sep 28, 2008 - 10:32pm PT
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I also loved the horseshoe to reds run , rock creek to hilton creek, yosemite west to wawona!!!
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corniss chopper
Mountain climber
san jose, ca
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Sep 29, 2008 - 04:48pm PT
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The trails are so nice in the spring before
the horses begin ripping them up. By October its
a disaster. Like others, I have found it is safer to walk
to the side of a trail due to the 'Horse Damage" which causes
more issues.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 29, 2008 - 05:14pm PT
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I don't know about Half Dome, but I sure think Fairview can be biked.
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