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Brunosafari
Boulder climber
Redmond, OR
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Sep 24, 2008 - 05:37pm PT
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and that's what I call:
"transparency."
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Binks
Social climber
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Sep 24, 2008 - 05:49pm PT
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McCain is a reactionary. He has no idea what to do and is frantically trying to find some sort of political lever. It's moving way too fast for the old man.
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wbw
climber
'cross the great divide
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Sep 24, 2008 - 05:51pm PT
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McCain's spinmeisters are saying this is what he has always done: put country first.
What a dickhead . . .
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Sep 24, 2008 - 05:51pm PT
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Bob Cesca on HufPo sums up the strategy we saw all last week:
"Blurt Out Random Crap!"
The Real McCain is rapidly coming into focus for those in the middle. McRage. McLiar. McPanderer. McIncompetent. McBush. And the Obama campaign only needs to tweak these frames. After all, the McCain campaign is doing all of the heavy lifting by itself.
And as we witnessed with the Zapatero episode, as soon as Senator McCain blurts out random crap, his staff scrambles onto the stage with pronouncements and excuses so as to make it seem as if McCain meant to say what he said -- a routine which only serves to compound the farcical nature of it all.
So it comes as no surprise that the McCain-Palin strategy on the economic crisis is to -- that's right! -- blurt out random crap.
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 24, 2008 - 05:56pm PT
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I'm surprised that only 10% support this.
Now granted, this is a very early poll and attitudes will likely change. But I think it shows that there is enormous doubt that he should bail like this.
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crusher
climber
Santa Monica, CA
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Sep 24, 2008 - 06:25pm PT
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He must've fired Rove (in order to have been allowed by his campaign to do this).
...I think he's just too tired to do it all and needs another nap.
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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Sep 24, 2008 - 06:50pm PT
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McCain should use Palin as his stand-in.
She has Alaska in such good shape that she can afford to take time off.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Sep 24, 2008 - 06:51pm PT
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I'm laughing my *&s off about this.
Obama said today, you have to be able to do more than one thing at a time if you are going to be the POTUS. Obama can campaign, help with the economic crisis, and debate nearly all at the same time. He also said today, the debate should occur as planned on Friday.
I agree. It is just a stall tactic as Bruno above has stated. It is sooooooo transparent.
I can just see it now, McLame (or McSame) says, "Hey can we postpone the debates until Nov. 5th? Is that possible? That's when it will work for me."
Obama/Biden are gonna wipe the floor with McLame/Failin. I can't wait.
GOBAMA!!!!!!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Sep 24, 2008 - 07:07pm PT
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In july this year Reid said this about a similar situation where Obama voted on a bill and McCain was campaigning...
""I should mention how glad my fellow Democrats and I were to have our nominee for president here to vote on these important bills. Senator Obama has come to work and taken tough stands. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for Senator McCain," Reid said. "Perhaps taking tough stands on important issues is not part of Senator McCain's campaign strategy. Perhaps he's just too busy on the campaign trail to do his day job."
Does he want it both ways?
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Brunosafari
Boulder climber
Redmond, OR
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Sep 24, 2008 - 07:08pm PT
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I am inclined to agree with you Klimmer. Yea, I saw Obama's speech. What amazing self control Obama must have in order to deliver that line with deadpan sobriety. I too cannot-stop-laughing!!!!
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Sep 24, 2008 - 07:11pm PT
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Good point Chaz, as a Demo I invite gidget to be McSames's stand-in.
Would it make any difference at this point?
Their only hope is Diebholt™.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Sep 24, 2008 - 07:20pm PT
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From k-man's link above, after Reid told McCain that showing up in DC would not be helpful:
A source close to Reid said McCain didn't have much to say after that. Reid, the source says, thinks McCain's maneuver is a gimmick born from bad poll numbers and the fact that "debate prep must not be going very well."
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Sep 24, 2008 - 07:21pm PT
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This is nothing more than an attempt to appear "presidential" while copping out of a debate that he is going to get creamed in. The debates aren't for our entertainment, but to question and probe into how the candidates can handle themselves. Now more than ever the debates should go on.
I mean seriously....does McCain have some secret plan to save the economy that he just HAS to rush back to DC to implement?
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Forest
Trad climber
Tucson, AZ
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Sep 24, 2008 - 07:41pm PT
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Favorite headline so far: "McChickening out"
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crusher
climber
Santa Monica, CA
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Sep 24, 2008 - 07:42pm PT
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Bluey,
July was a long time ago - they hadn't even had the conventions yet. Here we are with only about 5 weeks until election day so it's a bit more pressing that we hear from the candidates on these specific topics.
Now the McCain team is trying to postpone the VP debate as well. Please don't tell me it's because Sarah needs to go to Washington to solve the economic crisis.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 24, 2008 - 07:42pm PT
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Now it looks like they want to postpone the VP debate too:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/24/mccain-camp-to-propose-postponing-vp-debate/
My guess, for the VP debate, all questions must be submitted a week ahead
of time, and each contestant can use a 5x7 card for each question "asked."
Time limit on the answers: 30 seconds, with no follow up questions.
Hey, in Alaska, 30 seconds is a lot of time! Why, you could dress half a moose in that time (in a mini skirt, that is).
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 24, 2008 - 07:58pm PT
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Explains why they want the veep debate postponed.
It's all crystal clear now. :-)
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crusher
climber
Santa Monica, CA
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Sep 24, 2008 - 07:59pm PT
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OMFG. I'm sorry but I cannot stop laughing. She can't even talk. What the f does any of what she said mean?
Talk about a "blizzard of words" as Charles (no, "CHARLIE") Gibson put it.
No wonder they're trying to postpone her debate.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 24, 2008 - 08:01pm PT
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My favorite comment from the Palin/Couric article:
Hey, Sen. McCain, if you can't make it, let's have the VP debate Friday
in Mississippi. Palin is ready to be a heartbeat away, right? Let's see her stuff!
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 24, 2008 - 08:14pm PT
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Yes it's total bullsh'it!
McCain and Palin are applying for the highest office jobs in the United States. When you apply for a job such as that one must qualified!
The prerequisite qualifications require one must face the job interviewer, the people of United States.
McCain and Palin are failing these prerequisites.
Step up to the plate you two!
No ..... they run away. No good, next candidate please come into the interview room.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Sep 24, 2008 - 08:18pm PT
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Whew! I'm glad they are getting all hands on deck to save the nation!
Fattrad, you need to miss the Facelift and get to DC ASAP to help McSame and Palin with some emergency economic fixes.
No time to waste!
EDIT - just in case anyone thinks i might be serious, i wrote the above with EXTREME sarcasm... i've never met fatty, but the other two on economic policy are like sending a couple barrels of gasoline to help put out a forest fire
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atchafalaya
climber
Babylon
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Sep 24, 2008 - 08:21pm PT
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Holy sh#t that was painful watching the Couric interview. The American Taliban is an idiot. Fatty, i always like your posts and respect you. But seriously, you had to sh#t your pants when you heard it was gonna be her for VP, right? Seriously? WTF?
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Binks
Social climber
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Sep 24, 2008 - 09:01pm PT
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McCain's move to scuttle the debates is pure desperation. His handlers know he can't speak to the economic crisis at all. If he debates Obama, he's finished. He is CLUELESS on economic matters.
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 24, 2008 - 09:25pm PT
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If McCain is CLUELESS on economic matters, then why does he want to delay the debates and go to Washington to "fix" the economic matters?
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 24, 2008 - 09:29pm PT
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She sounds like me when I am on complete bullshit mode and I'm trying to say something--anything and I don't know what I'm saying.
That was so painful to watch.
No wonder McCain decided to pull a hail Mary today!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Sep 24, 2008 - 09:30pm PT
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Werner, because (some would say) he's only doing it to 'appear' to care and appear presidential.
Or, he thinks he can help.
Dirtbag, "She sounds like me when I am on complete bullshit mode and I'm trying to say something--anything and I don't know what I'm saying."
uhhh.....I'd retract that, dude.
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 24, 2008 - 09:34pm PT
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Bluering, folks are going to have slip of the tongues. Biden's not stupid, he knows there were no TVs then. And at least Biden hasn't been hiding from interviews.
Did you watch the Palin video?
Obviously, I'm not a Palin fan but it was painful to watch. I was cringing the entire time.
See my post above about making up BS. She didn't have anything to say about much of anything. She's totally unprepared for the enormous task that she might be chosen to undertake. Call me an elitist, but I believe you really should know a few things about policy stuff before becoming Pres or VP.
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 24, 2008 - 09:38pm PT
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"Dirtbag, "She sounds like me when I am on complete bullshit mode and I'm trying to say something--anything and I don't know what I'm saying."
uhhh.....I'd retract that, dude."
Nah, I'll fess up. There has been the occasional job interview or something or other when I'm expected to give an answer and I have nothing to say, so I stumble for bullshit to fill the silence. I think most of us have been there at one point or another.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Sep 24, 2008 - 09:40pm PT
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Werner- It's a ploy to look presidential. The reality is that the Senate isn't going to be doing a damn thing on Friday night other than making some popcorn and watching the debates. Republicans are running in 100 different directions though, and McCain is the ipso facto leader of the Republicans so they need him to ride in and tell them what to do (republicans are lost without marching orders and talking points).
Obama is right though, if he can't do both these things at the same time he isn't ready for the office.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Sep 24, 2008 - 10:33pm PT
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Oh that was sooooo funny! Thanks for posting. Definately, a Spoiler, but I think now I'll stay up to watch the whole show tonight.
Classic.
LOL
David Letterman nails McShame but good. Good question, will he ever come back on to the show again? Dave, I wouldn't worry about it.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Sep 24, 2008 - 10:45pm PT
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Barak Hussein Obama Jr. will be at the meeting on Thursday.
If there's no agreement the markets will tank on Friday.
If Barak Hussein Obama Jr. shows up without McCain on Friday night he will look like the Chicago opportunist that he is.
The grownups will go to work.
The kid will go to the party.
It is however true that Barak Hussein Obama Jr's presence isn't required in Washington. He's spent his entire senate tenure, (as brief as it is) running for Prez.
He has no chops in DC and can have no influence on this real debate.
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 24, 2008 - 10:49pm PT
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So TGT, what's up with your repeated reference to "Hussein"?
1.Do you like his middle name?
2.Or are you trying to stir up a fear of Muslims (which Obama isn't, btw) and play some kind of race-baiting ploy?
My money's on #2.
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dmalloy
Trad climber
eastside
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Sep 24, 2008 - 10:56pm PT
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yes, the misspelling of Senator Barack Obama's first name up there is telling as well, isn't it?
When you have nothing high-minded to say, I guess you have to stoop pretty low....
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coward
Trad climber
Boulder, Wyoming
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Sep 24, 2008 - 10:58pm PT
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TGT, the truth is McCain isn't going to be able to "solve" this crisis with his economic genius...you're f*cking crazy if you think his presence makes any difference at all...like anything will be going on Friday night anyway!
He want's to postpone debates until this economic crisis is "solved"...does that mean he doesn't want to debate at all before the elections? Sorry, but a front porch campaign isn't going to cut it in this day and age. He will only look older and more frail by backing out of speaking engagements and debates (what a pussy!).
Old man McCain is tired and truly pathetic - and Palin is an embarassment to everyone who listens to her speak. The two are, no kidding, the biggest joke in election history. Bar none. They're losing ground every day and that should come as no surprise, with the BS strategy and chickenhearted tactics they've used this fall.
McCain has not a shred of dignity or integrity - what a sorry excuse for a candidate.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Sep 24, 2008 - 11:13pm PT
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Pathetic.
The "campaign cancellation to save the nation" is absurd. The LAST THING the serious economists and political leaders need in the mix at the moment, are the presidential candidates!
What is McCain's special expertise or power? He is NOT the president!
This is a re-tread of the stunt of cancelling the first day of the Repub convention to save the victims of the hurricaine. What wonderful things came out of that heroic action?
This will really hurt his campaign, as it will be seen as an attempt to duck the debate, and bringing in the specter of cancelling the VP debate starts to make him look like a coward. What a real shame to see a heroic man stoop to this.
"Those who the Gods would destroy, they first make proud."
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Sep 24, 2008 - 11:38pm PT
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Your'e missing the point.
McCain has no special expertise, but is an influential member of the senate with influence even with some moderate Democrats. His oppinion will shape the outcome.
Obama on the other hand is the Jr (boy to KKK Bird) senator with no influence at all.
His presence as the least of one hundred means nothing.
Maybe he'll even vote "present"
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Sep 24, 2008 - 11:39pm PT
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We'll see.
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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Sep 24, 2008 - 11:39pm PT
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going way back to the top of the thread-
bruno: LOL
and then back to the bottom of the thread:
TGT: to be perfectly honest, when you intentionally make your overt racism so clear, and in full public view no less, i am saddened and that your offspring bears arms in my country's name.
seriously.
would it be so much to ask that you have the self awareness and common sense to at least pretend you are not an ignorant bigot?
btw-
did you ever live in OR?
just curious...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080924/ts_alt_afp/usvoteobamaracism
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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Sep 24, 2008 - 11:55pm PT
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TGT...you are a complete as#@&%e.
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
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Sep 25, 2008 - 12:21am PT
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Mimi
climber
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Sep 25, 2008 - 12:28am PT
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No Bob, you are.
Matt, didn't McCain challenge BO to townhall style debates for several weeks this summer and BO turned him down?
You don't really believe TGT is a bigot, do you? He's actually spot on and race has nothing to do with it from that perspective. It's just that it's not this man, IMO. Have you been reading how serious the race issue is among the Democrat Party and the Unions? That will definitely influence this election.
Cheers,
Mimi
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Sep 25, 2008 - 12:39am PT
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Mimi, this summer Barack was campaigning against Hillary, not McCain. The debates then would have been silly.
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Mimi
climber
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Sep 25, 2008 - 12:44am PT
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Hey Moosie. No, McCain specifically challenged the B-man. Hillary was already out of the picture at the time before she made her late season run. He wanted to do one a week or so. I forget what BO's reason was for not wanting to participate but he was so far ahead at the time that he prolly figured it wasn't worth it. So it's tit for tat saying McCain is avoiding the debate. He's not. They both should have a buttload of work to do, don't you think?
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 25, 2008 - 12:48am PT
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"You don't really believe TGT is a bigot, do you? "
Yes.
Why else is he consistently saying "Hussein"? C'mon Mimi. He's playing the "Obama is a Muslim foreign bogeyman" baiting game. When has he said McCain's middle name, whatever it is?
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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Sep 25, 2008 - 12:49am PT
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F*#k off Mimi-the-wanna-be.
McCain hasn't been to Washington since April...he the same as#@&%e who said the economy was fundamentally sound just last week..was no where near Washington this week and is running for his political life like a chicken without a head.
Go drink some more kool-aid.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Sep 25, 2008 - 12:53am PT
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There's very little time before the election. McCain shouldn't avoid the debate because we have little time left to see these guys relatively unscripted.
This set of debates is essential and different because it's set up by the non-partisan debate commission, not one guy challenging another to debate according to his own rules
Peace
Karl
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Mimi
climber
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Sep 25, 2008 - 12:58am PT
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Bob, get over yourself.
dirtbag, you really believe that many people judge the guy strictly because of his name? I think it's pretty funny that people get upset about the play on the guy's middle name considering the level of rhetorical shredding of the current admin over the last several years.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Sep 25, 2008 - 01:01am PT
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Nope, he wasn't that far ahead. As for butt loads of work to do, McCain has already admitted he knows next to nothing about the economy. That doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence in what he is doing during this trouble. Considering that he has had 26 years to help make this problem, I am not confident of his ability to fix it.
No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it. - Albert Einstein
We need fresh minds to tackle this problem.
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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Sep 25, 2008 - 01:01am PT
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Mimi wrote: Bob, get over yourself.
That's funny coming from a self indulgence wanna be.
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Sep 25, 2008 - 01:01am PT
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Having shared a campfire with TGT, he is quite a nice guy to hang out with. He has been smoking the republican right winger lettuce for too long.
Anyone who actually supports these (Republican) clowns needs to go climbing and it will be chrystal clear. Vote for the party with a plan. You will be so glad you did because next spring, the gardens around the world will bloom with the manifestation of Hope and Prosperity.
There will once again be a seperation of church and state. The economy will soar. There will once again be smart deplomacy by a smart president who finished at the top of his class, not the bottom. TGT you can be saved.
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 25, 2008 - 01:03am PT
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Mimi, I think it shows his bigotry. (And again I ask, why not state McCain's middle name?)
And yes, I do think people are partly afraid of his name. It feeds into their perception that he is a foreign, muslim, black man. A lot of people will not vote for him because they believe he is a muslim, and of course others won't vote for him because he's black. I hear this stuff all the time.
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Mimi
climber
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Sep 25, 2008 - 01:04am PT
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At least I'm not a dangling sportpuke like you, Boob.
dirtbag, there's no doubt in my mind that a black man will be a future president here. I just don't think it's going to be this person. I know what you mean about prejudice. I look at the name issue with humor but I guess it does add fuel to a bad fire.
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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Sep 25, 2008 - 01:06am PT
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Mimi wrote: At least I'm not a dangling sportpuke like you, Boob.
That didn't take long...weak!
Right Mimi..which boyfriend is dragging you up climbs this week?
See you in the Gunks tough girl. LOL
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Mimi
climber
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Sep 25, 2008 - 01:09am PT
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That would be Steve and Verm. Way tougher than you. That's for sure.
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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Sep 25, 2008 - 01:10am PT
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I'm so scare now.
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Mimi
climber
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Sep 25, 2008 - 01:12am PT
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'I'm so scare now'
Nice spelling job there Booby.
I suppose it's the effects of that vat of chemicals again. Bummer.
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Sep 25, 2008 - 01:13am PT
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The debate sponsors say the debates are going on.
IT would be GREAT for Obama to show up, unopposed, and answer questions.
This is one more huge mistake by McCain.
I can't believe anyone will still vote for McBush and his Cheney-esque VP choice after all the crap they are pulling and are yet to pull.
Tweedledum and Tweedledee would do better in the debates.
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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Sep 25, 2008 - 01:36am PT
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"The two are, no kidding, the biggest joke in election history."
Thats scary when you think about who got elected last time.
Could it happen again?
Scary I'm tellin ya.
On another note, maybe Biden could stand in for McCain.
Make for a pretty simple rebuttal. :-)
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Mimi
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Sep 25, 2008 - 01:44am PT
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Word on the street says Joe is backing out and Hillary is stepping in. A classic trial balloon and it would be wild if they did that. Bill said publicly last week that 'she wasn't interested in being the VP.' She's eyeing '12 for sure and is banking on McCain to win and then be a one-termer.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Sep 25, 2008 - 02:30am PT
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Drama Queen: No convention today! ... OK, it's on! ... The economy's sound... No, wait, it's going to fall apart unless I go to Washington tomorrow! ... We need a commission! ... We need to fire somebody! ... Get me Andrew Cuomo! ... I want ten more debates! ... But let's postpone the one we've scheduled! ... Do you get the impression a McCain presidency would be a bit exhausting? ...
P.S.: Remember Tom Wolfe's description of a fighter pilot's decision-making protocol: "I've tried A! I've tried B! I've tried C! ..."
http://www.slate.com/id/2200580/
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DJS
Trad climber
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Sep 25, 2008 - 01:55pm PT
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Anyone wonder what's up with his eye? Speculations of course are going crazy but... possible "minor stroke"? He cancelled an appearance on Letterman too.
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Sep 25, 2008 - 02:16pm PT
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First of all, the only reason anyone uses Obama's middle name is as a scare tactic to make him sound more like a Middle Eastern Muslim. So I'd certainly say it is a lame tactic by TGT.
Beyond that, while McCain has plenty of experience, he's not known for economic policy experience. He has admitted as much himself. He is not on any of the Senate committees that oversee this. So this kind of does look like a desparate grasp for him.
He sees himself slipping in polls over the economy and this is a gamble to make himself look more involved. However, it would appear that it may be a moot point as it's sounding like there may be a solution today.
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Sep 25, 2008 - 03:05pm PT
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 25, 2008 - 03:09pm PT
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Posted in another thread:
Here's a new Katie COuric-Palin interview clip, in which she talks about her foreign policy experience
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg
If she becomes Pres., we're f*#ked. Seriously. She's way over her head.
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tooth
Mountain climber
B.C.
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Sep 25, 2008 - 03:18pm PT
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Bells palsy on the left side of his face. He doesn't have forehead wrinkles because he can't lift his left eyebrow. He can't really smile on that side - sucks when you are trying to look friendly like Obama. That is what gives him that twisted look when he smiles. Takes a lot of little strokes to get results like that, wonder what other parts of his brain have been affected that 1 megapixel cameras can't pick up on.
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Binks
Social climber
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Sep 25, 2008 - 05:33pm PT
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Rocky Mt. News:
If Winston Churchill could leave London in December 1941 and travel to America to address a joint session of Congress even as British troops in the Far East were reeling under Japanese attacks, somehow we think John McCain can make his way down to Oxford, Miss., for a debate Friday evening without imperiling the future of America. In this case, Barack Obama is right.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 25, 2008 - 05:39pm PT
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Philo,
your comix are splendid. You need to get them published.
Try the Santa Cruz Comic News, they're great.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Sep 25, 2008 - 05:40pm PT
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My mom had bell's palsy.
She's 85 and has no problem jumping all over my 52 yr old sheeit whenever. It don't make you wimp out like McSame, his, wimp-gene, was pre-existing.
My inclination is to vote Barak, but mom is and she is a hardcore, Chicago Dem... What's an earnest young liberal to do?
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nick d
Trad climber
nm
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Sep 25, 2008 - 08:41pm PT
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"What's an earnest young liberal to do? "
Liberal says Democrat, at least to me. And no less of a luminary than Charles Barkley, "Sir Cumfrence", summed it up this way. "If you are a Democrat, and you are thinking about voting for Mcain, you are an IDIOT!"
Gotta admit, dude has a golden tongue.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Sep 26, 2008 - 03:17am PT
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So um....when exactly did McCain plan on suspending his campaign? I mean besides bailing on Letterman and threatening to do so for tomorrow's debate? He has kept right on keeping every one of his campaign obligations.
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 26, 2008 - 10:08am PT
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No, of course yesterday's grandstanding was not a different form of campaigning, it was leadership!
That's why McCain was wandering the halls, looking for something to do, and that's why Washington got something done yesterday.
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Binks
Social climber
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Sep 26, 2008 - 11:52am PT
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McCain flip flops yet again! Unfit to lead.
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 26, 2008 - 12:02pm PT
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McCain is just the water boy for the hidden machine that runs the USA.
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Redwreck
Social climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Sep 26, 2008 - 12:12pm PT
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True, but who (in Washington) isn't?
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 26, 2008 - 01:37pm PT
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Here it is
Yes, he's had a bad week. :-)
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the Fet
Knackered climber
A bivy sack in the secret campground
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Sep 26, 2008 - 04:51pm PT
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I hope B.O. pushes his buttons and get's McCane all red faced and angry.
"TRUTH! You can't handle the truth!"
That would be entertaining.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Sep 26, 2008 - 04:52pm PT
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Sep 26, 2008 - 05:40pm PT
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I'm afraid they have the same integrity when it comes to election day as well. God helps us.
I mean, let's be skeptical and say all politician from every party are corrupt sell outs. One thing Bush versus Clinton should have showed us, is that it's important to get a skilled, smart corrupt politician who won't screw things up so badly.
Peace
Karl
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Sep 26, 2008 - 05:50pm PT
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No no. McCain has shown the kind of kneejerk reaction gut level decision making that has prevented the US from being attacked these last 7 years. It's like Palin said...you can't think...you can't blink...you just have to act.
I mean look where that has gotten her?
I'm really hopeful for tonight's debate. If Obama can nail it on the economy and hold his own on defense then we could see a double-digit Obama lead by Monday.
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