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Slakkey
Trad climber
From a Quiet Place by the Lake
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Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 4, 2008 - 10:45pm PT
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Need I say more. I am not a perfect example but, for christ sake I think a number of people need to just step away form the computer and take a break. Go spend some time outside.
I am sure I will get some flak for this but right now I just dont care
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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I got your back...
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
up Yonder (the edge of Treason)
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& I got yer left side!....
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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If the people who post political threads posted only one such thread a week,
the political threads on this forum would probably be reduced by at least 80%.
But NOOOO, it's their duty to ENLIGHTEN us with their superior wisdom, is it knott?
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
up Yonder (the edge of Treason)
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? does not wisdom mean ya don't sell or sling it all over Hell?
or at least imply it? I don't know much, but I do like going on about climbing & wanderin' & fishin'& general groovin'....
That's my 'platform'....especially if it floats on prime waters......You, Me, & Slakkey, Knott, we're all that survived the onslaught. So far.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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How bout them Lakers?....
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noshoesnoshirt
climber
hither and yon
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What is this climbing of which you speak?
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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HardmanKnott, the political posters will not change one "mind" here on the Taco. So say it once and lose it. Get on to pushing the "good stuff" and helping neub's like me succeed. Just a thought from outer space and planet x.
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
up Yonder (the edge of Treason)
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There's cool climbing on x. Less gravity, too. I do 5.13 there.....
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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I don't look at this as strictly a climbing forum. If you want that, there's always rc.noob or mountainproject.
I look at this as more like a campfire. Anything and everything open for discussion with interesting folks.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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I see this yearning coming up all the time here. “Wouldn’t they just stop all the yammering. Make the ants stop crawling in here! Please G*d or someone, take this higher.”
And I share it, this yearning. Obviously.
But as the incredible John Vawter said maybe about 8 years ago here or at rec.climbing, it’s basically a cocktail party here and at other forums: all kinds of characters, constant interruptions, blazing loyalties between old comrades and the same with people that have just met. Apparent hatreds between (usually guys) climbers who actually agree without knowing it.
It must seem crazy and many of us hope for purity but in the end, it’s fun and a lot gets accomplished despite all of us and our cacophony. How could it be any different....do you know? Should there be a forum monitor 24/7? You and I don’t think so, right? So we go with this wriggling mess that is semi-democratic and quite free-play but we can still bitch when ever it takes our fancy.
Make no mistake, ST gets off the track all the time, just like a campfire evening. And it is good and reflects what we are experiencing elsewhere. And have for more than 50 years.
best ph
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Here's a small excerpt from my extremely long-winded post linked above:
Oct 1, 2004, 11:18am PT
Finally, I never understood why people would want to carry on political dialogs
with a group of climbers, on a climbing-specific forum.
For those of you who think posting political stuff to a group of climbers
is a good idea, there's a much, much better place do do that.
It's the Community forum on Rockclimbing.com.
As of this morning, there are already dozens of posts about the debate last night,
all of them made by climbers. You will reach a vastly larger number
of climbers--on an order of magnitude. Check it out. Way more bang for the buck!
Personally, I would recommend checking out Usenet. Learning how to use
a newsreader program isn't all that difficult, and is what we had to use before
Gore invented the internet.
It is still a vastly superior medium than any Web-based forum;
you need to use it to see what I mean.
Here are some groups I found, using just the keyword Politics:
alt.politics
alt.politics.bush
alt.politics.economics
alt.politics.elections
alt.politics.gw-bush
alt.politics.immigration
alt.politics.liberalism
alt.politics.media
alt.politics.radical-left
alt.politics.republicans
alt.politics.socialism
alt.politics.socialism.democratic
alt.politics.socialism.libertarian
alt.politics.usa
alt.politics.usa.constitution
alt.politics.usa.constitution.gun-rights
alt.politics.usa.republican
soc.politics
talk.politics.guns
talk.politics.libertarian
talk.politics.mideast
talk.politics.misc
talk.politics.theory
us.politics
us.politics.elections
wash.politics
There are probably thousands more...
If this is all too complicated for those of you who think programing a VCR
is akin to rocket-science, you can always read Usenet using the Google Groups
interface. I must warn you--and Dingus will attest--that using web-based Google
instead of a newsreader is like driving a golf cart on a race-track instead of
a Lamborghini Diablo, or getting a massage in a wetsuit instead of being nude.
Try it, you'll like it!
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
up Yonder (the edge of Treason)
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I like 'off track' better when I'm drunk....
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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They don't ever talk about climbing over on those forums.
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Slakkey
Trad climber
From a Quiet Place by the Lake
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2008 - 11:23pm PT
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Well, I just returned for a 2 week trip from Washington State. First week was spent spending some time sailing. Second week was spent some time on Mt Rainier. Like I said I am not a perfect example of one who contirbutes to the forum on subjects just related to climbing. But, when I cam home and read the majority of the front page Related to Politics It just made me wonder why people think this is their own personal soap Box. Yes people have a right to their own opinion and yes this forum is more like a virtual capfire than most but the point is. it is just interesting to me that for what is considered a community of people who for the most part spend a part of thier life outside. spend so much of their time on the computer. writting about stuff that for the most part others really have little or no interest in.
Maybe I am wrong.
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salad
climber
Escondido
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slakkey, did you get on the JMT?
if you ever get thirsty give me a ring. drop me an email.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Nutsonthechin, Wisconsin
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Do not ever mistake this cesspool with a campfire. If one third of the shiit talked on here was presented as such at a real campfire, there would be a lot of guys sleeping it off horizontal style in the dirt. FACT.
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Flashlight
climber
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Amen! If I see one more thread about packing a suitcase I am going to go nuts.
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Cracko
Trad climber
Quartz Hill, California
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Just remember..........you can always post up with a climbing related thread!!! It's called independent will !!!! All these threads complaining about no climbing related threads just becomes part of the problem.
A very humble
Cracko
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
up Yonder (the edge of Treason)
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That crackwhore crack looks like the goods, mon.....
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Lost Arrow
Trad climber
The North Ridge of the San Fernando
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Blame all the crybaby liberals.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there russ.. say, them are powerful but true words.... i have grown up with 5 brothers, and have 3 sons, who had 4 male cousins, and 3 male uncles, and have also been around folks with LOTS of guys in the household and--when they dont know when to back down, or clam up, or sit it out, or re-evaluate (or give equal time when no re-evaluations are to be wanted),
or move on,--they're near down for count.... (luckily in many of these cases, all the guys involved were young enough and the "nearby family 'ref's stepped in"..... hmmmm, how much more so, disagreements may flare, if too heavy-spoke, with no reins...
*though, i do see honor in you folks, here on the internet-fires---meaning--you all eventually tend to know how to ref yourselves, if and when, the going gets too tough....
you are climbers, after all, and "know the ropes"... and can thus "handles the pitches"...
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Hardman: "
Finally, I never understood why people would want to carry on political dialogs with a group of climbers, on a climbing-specific forum. "
This is a climbing forum? I thought it was your personal mac support forum.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Nutsonthechin, Wisconsin
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hey there..... neebee... say.....
Your brother Mark knew about TCB.... they didn't call him "Boom Boom Chapman" for nuthin'.
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Blowboarder
Boulder climber
Back in the mix
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heh.
wes, that thing looks prime. what size?
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10b4me
climber
the gray bands
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Wes, what state is that in?
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there russ... say... oh, my... so i heard, yep, thanks to "supertopo communications"... :)
but---i sure dont know if he knows that i know...
*course, in our large family, at times... someone always wanted to see some kind of tcb when it seemed some kind of an injustice was perceived by them... trouble was, there was just so many different "brilliant minds" tending to want to fix stuff...
say, there, russ... :) ...thanks for the share...
boom-boom chapman, huh? oh, my....
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Graniteclimber wrote:
This is a climbing forum? I thought it was your personal mac support forum.
LOL!!
Off the top of my head, I've probably started 20 - 30 Mac-related threads since Jan 2002,
and I have posted (especially offering helpful advice) in quite a number of others as well.
Then you have your average Political Pontificator™, who starts 20 - 30 political threads every MONTH.
One thing that is completely puzzling is that there seems to be some need for folks
to post REDUNDANT threads when there's already a discussion going on. Is there a need
to see one's name on the front page? Do those people even bother to READ the other threads?
WTF?
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Nutsonthechin, Wisconsin
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With all due respect fattrad..... there is no way the level of outright shiit talking that goes on here, could have happened at the facelift. If it did, and various commies were still standing, it would reflect poorly on the patriots that were there. Please say it is not so.....
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Dunno Russ, I think it's the chickenhawks that would have to be worried.
Us liberal anarchists have a much higher pain tolerance from all the baton beatings and tear gas.
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Slakkey
Trad climber
From a Quiet Place by the Lake
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 5, 2008 - 12:39am PT
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Salad,
No JMT this year as just too many other projects so time ran a bit short. However have pack weight down to 30 pounds now and did a fair amount of research on the whole thing so hopefully next season. Also looking to do a more extended trip on Rainier as well. more than likely the Kautz Route. A little more technical than the Disappointment Cleaver Route. One thing we learned was it might be better to go a little earlier in the season next time on Rainier. More snow and not as diffacult route finding due to crevasses becoming more diffacult later in the season.
I am always thursty.
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Mimi
climber
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FACT is too scarce in these parts. LOL! No way would so much of this worthless rhetoric be tolerated around a real fire!!!
Unfortunately, neebee, the anonymity firewall provided by the internet facilitates cowardly behavior not usually exhibited up close and personal. Hence, FACT. This certainly applies to the poli threads, thankfully less so to the climbing threads. But funny how many of the same clowns on the poli threads maintain their same weak sauce on controversial topic climbing threads.
A good measure of character on here is shown by those climbers who maintain civility between each other on the poli threads as well as the climbing ones. Interesting how many of the same 'poor ethics' people seem to line up on the same side politically. No offense to you genuine idealists out there.
McCain/Palin in '08!
I predict the margin of victory will be larger than 2004 including the popular vote. Really sorry to so many of you. Seriously.
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salad
climber
Escondido
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rad. i wish had a nick name that started with 'boom boom'. i was dubbed 'the saltiest man in chico', 'satan', and 'charles manson'. all be it by the same dude, but he had a talant for nicknaming.
i must say, even though im not large, and more importantly, a lover not a fighter... if someone addressed me the way some people address people at times here on the taco, i'd be damned if i wouldn't come up swinging.. or at least really fuken pissed...
edit: duh.
edit II. hahaha wtf?
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there mimi... say, as to your quote:
"Unfortunately, neebee, the anonymity firewall provided by the internet facilitates cowardly behavior not usually exhibited up close and personal."
say, when i was first on the internet, it was only with a about three gals that i know---so i had never known that at first... but it is so true, i had later found out (due to some odd exchanges between some other gals trying "for turf" or something in a certain discussion group:
that was when i learned about all these odd terms, such as flaming, flame warrious, hit and run post, trolls, etc...
thanks for the share... :)
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WBraun
climber
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The Diebold voting machines are being hacked and set as we speak ......
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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hacked? I thought they came that way.
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Mimi
climber
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LOL, Werner!!! I almost alluded to those stolen elections. Ya might know you'd be keeping tabs.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Nutsonthechin, Wisconsin
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Never forget Boom Boom Wilford too.... KO'd a dude right through the bushes at a restaurant for talking shiit..... and then probably went and freesoloed his route, then chopped it.....
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Hardman, agreed. I was just pulling your leg... You rarely make off-topic posts.
I enjoy the political threads up to a point, but it's out of control right now. We're in the middle of the conventions and beginning the end run to the election. It should quiet down after the election.
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Slakkey,
Cool, make sure you follow though, I want details!
I want to take my family on the JMT while they (kids) are still in the stage where you can really make an impression on them...but old enough to remember the physically hard times as well as the esthetically bueatifull times (which should be most of it).
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Nutsonthechin, Wisconsin
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Typo edit: Mimi thought I said Whitford, but it should read Wilford. anyway....
Meems: not Jo, but Mark...
but I did see Jo KO the PoodleBoy outside the bar... after she thought he kicked a raccoon (he never did by the way) Walked up to him and punched him right in the gut.... doubled him over and ended his night at the benches.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Hardman, agreed. I was just pulling your leg... You rarely make off-topic posts.
No worries - it's just that one of my recent leg-humping Internet Bitches also brought
up the Mac thing, so my post was for general consumption, but especially for my bitch...
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Mimi
climber
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That's a good one. Poor Poodle Boy. Sad story that.
I thought you wrote Jo's name and then spotted the err and deleted. Yeah, as I posted, I bet she does sport a good punch.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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I wanna hear about this Poodle Boy...
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JOEY.F
Social climber
sebastopol
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37.55N -119.43W (Elev. 8180 ft) Text Forecast (°C) En Español
Last Update: 9:34 am PDT Sep 4, 2008
TUOLUMNE MEADOWS WEATHER FORECAST:
Overnight: Clear, with a low around 49. North northeast wind around 8 mph.
Friday: Sunny, with a high near 79. North northwest wind between 3 and 8 mph.
Friday Night: Clear, with a low around 50. North wind around 8 mph.
Saturday: Sunny, with a high near 79. North northwest wind between 7 and 10 mph.
Saturday Night: Clear, with a low around 51. North northeast wind between 3 and 10 mph.
Sunday: Sunny, with a high near 75.
Sunday Night: Clear, with a low around 51.
Monday: Sunny, with a high near 74.
Monday Night: Clear, with a low around 51.
Tuesday: Sunny, with a high near 70.
Tuesday Night: Clear, with a low around 52.
Wednesday: Sunny, with a high near 71.
Wednesday Night: Clear, with a low around 52.
Thursday: Sunny, with a high near 72.
Good time to get crackin! Havn't been this year yet...
hopefully Sunday for a few days
sorry, learning how to cut and paste, this seemed like a good place..
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Mimi
climber
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Well, okay. Since you asked HK. He was a friendly, cute gay man with very curley brown hair who worked at the deli. He was known to subtly flirt with some of the male climbers requesting a bagel dog. A couple of these climbers would routinely delight in turning down the hot mayo (or secret sauce) when asked. Always got a chuckle.
When I inquired years later about some of the old faces from the 80s, I learned that he'd been murdered in San Fran. Stabbed to death. Didn't get the details. I wouldn't have imagined him ever meeting such a fate.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there joey f... say, enjoy it for those of us that can't get there... sure is a BEAUTIFUL places... say, thanks for the weather report...
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Nutsonthechin, Wisconsin
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wow on the Poodle Boy..... but..... the one Jo socked was not the hot mayo kid from the Deli..... He was a different Poodle Boy... I know of at least three even at this advanced age.
The Jo poodle boy was a major Vitamin L dealer from the Bay Area. Kinda scary dude, with a fro-ish mop of hair and pupils that were always too big. Pretty fit and pretty thick. Not someone you would want to sock unless you had a good escape route planned. Jo didn't care.... she just downed him. Kick assss™™™™
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Mimi
climber
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Ha! Sorry I missed that one.
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WBraun
climber
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Yes, I saw this poodle thing with my own eyes pacing back and forth outside the MT bar in a dress with make up.
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JOEY.F
Social climber
sebastopol
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You're welcome Neebee,
good to hear old stories here on Taco, too
Funn!
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Mimi
climber
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WB, did you happen to see the sunrise this morning? I got to work early and opened the live webcam on HD and captured a real gem. I don't think I can open the photobucket at work but I'll post it in the evening.
Have a goodnight.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there joey f... yep....
say, i remember, as a very young kid, when i first say the tuoloume area, it was the most lovely thing i had ever saw... at the time, it was very green... and the sky topped it off, perfect... long long ago, long ago.... :)
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there russ... say, if you are still around... i dont remember too well, as it was another "long long ago, long ago" but:
mark had some pics where he had spent the night up on the rocks... was this el cap, or not??? did he climb it?
also, what other stuff did he climb, half dome, etc, too???
i never did know... did he do all the standard routes that every did there, as well....
i DID read of a few that he did with kevin, though i only found bits and pieces of this info, on yahoo searches...
*could you list a few, please, if you aint too busy this fine shiny night... why, you'd be a right nice knight in shining armor, if you could...
*i DO have that neat pic of mark on "crack a go go" (picture by vern, right?)
thanks russ....
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JOEY.F
Social climber
sebastopol
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Neebee,
Hows about a campfire in TM and listen to stories about the poodle boy/Jo smackdown. I'll buy.
yeah, its awesome,
Hope to meet you and your brother sometime.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Nutsonthechin, Wisconsin
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neebee.... your brother was a God in Yosemite. If it was there, he climbed it.
Maybe one of those list guys will pop in, like Ed or Clint, and give you the rundown. It was plenty, and they were good.
Here is a pic of Kauk, taking a pic of Chappy when we were all in Hueco Tanks, TX. in the late 80's or early 90's (?)
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there... joey f... ya never know... the good lord just may get me out that-a-way someday... always loved yosemite... felt special hearing them ol' waterfalls... really home-like...
granite and waterfalls... and meadows and deer.... (easy on the bear, though)... and add some wildflowers, and all is A+ high quality god-work....
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there russ.... awwwww, thanks russ... say, i knew he was a special guy... but i never got to know much of yosemite days, sadly... i really love my brother... it is hard being in big family as ours---we got seperated too much, and more so, as we followed all kinds of trail in life that lead different ways....
mine led to texas and not yosemite and the mountains that i loved...
say, russ... thanks for sharing my brothers good name with me...
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there russ.. .aw man, say, i was in south texas then... wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy down at the tip-o-tex...
same state, different spot, i reckon... say, nice pic... i think it is also posted on a chappy thread here, somewhere...
thanks for the pic-post... i really like it... :)
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there russ... say, thanks... !... :)
i am on my way.... :)
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Nohea
Trad climber
Aiea,Hi
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Slakkey more and more My ipod fills with slakkey music, great music and great post. I do get suckered into the political crap. On this site you cannot beat the TR reports.
Has anyone found that guys cheater stick he lost and posted about?
Aloha,
wil
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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You should clarify that you mean TRs (Trip Reports), and knott t*r reports™ (rambling about, like, whatEVER)...
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Nohea
Trad climber
Aiea,Hi
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True Trip Reports. Here is a tiny one.
Friday night I peddled around Haleakala and the sun caught me here.
But when the sun went down I was here
Aloha,
wil
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there nohea/wil.. three cheers for the beautiful sunset! and enjoying it... :)
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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It's an election year, what do you expect.
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goatboy smellz
climber
cien años de soledad
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hey there neebee,neebee,neebee, say it's Friday!
Time to rally up and get out of this weekend.
So we can fill this place back up with tha good stuff.
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Wearing a hoody with a mexican blanket serape? Ain't that a little g'hey?
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Tahoe climber
Trad climber
a dark-green forester out west
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To the original poster, I definitely agree - as do thousands of lurkers. I've gotten to where I just don't read or post in most threads because of that.
You know, it's tough, because I'm all about not having a monitor of some sort, and I enjoy the free nature of this forum, but all the guys that say it's a virtual campfire have never been around one in my opinion.
No campfire I have EVER been to has had this much political ranting.
And the truth is that if people were as rude to each other around the fire as they are here, they'd straight get their ass kicked, for sure.
I'm not saying I'm perfect and don't get drawn in sometimes - I'm just saying I like to read about the climbing on a climbing forum. That's why I keep coming back - for the gems. But they're getting harder to find.
So I'll add my thanks to those that try to keep this a climbers forum, too.
Peace - and no offense to those who don't have an outdoors life.
You've got enough problems.
TC
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
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hey wes,
where is "crackwhore"?
that thing looks pretty cool...
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dipper
climber
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Jody wrote "Amen! If I see one more thread about packing a suitcase I am going to go nuts."
Going to go?
Uh, you've arrived Jody.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Nutsonthechin, Wisconsin
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That "this is an election year" and "it will pass in a couple months" is total bullshiit. The raving will go on regardless of who is picked, and bait will be cut and eaten at nearly the same rate.
This has been going on for years here, not with the tide of which assshole is in the White House, but on the whim of a few driven individuals that have some overriding onboard need to continuously spray their "I'm smarter than the President" bullsh#t, while living in a van down by the river and poaching broadband service. It is fukking pathetic.
As for the "post more climbing content if you don't like the way it is going" crew..... well, posting good content takes time, and devoting time and effort to do something like that, one would need to at a minimum enjoy the medium and respect the members and the forum to which their work will be hosted. I'm not seeing that here.
Fuk it... I'm pulling a Riley. I quit. You will not see me on these forums again.
(I'll be back in 17 minutes)
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Found out last night how to pull myself away from the ST and get back on early night schedule so can work out early a.m. fore it gets too hot......leave your battery at the office. hehe
Just catching up on this crazy thread. Russ, buddy, you had me scared there for a momentito. : D lrl
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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You think it's bad now, just wait 'till climbing season lags in Nov-Feb and we have a new asshat president!!!
Y'all will be really cryin' and filling up the board with t*r crap, skiing threads, and crying about how the election was stolen.
Mmmwaahhhh!!!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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How do you do red ink ? No...don't tell me I'd drive everyone czy. : D
EDIT: re: teaching neubies in earlier post....someone at TM was nice enough to teach me how to open a beer with a carabiner..of course not a gear beener. What a feat ! Mexican beers are harder to open than Euros. : ) (Keeping on topic here)
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Hey, unfair, I've been on my best behaviour....and it's BORING !
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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I've been trying. Really. Though I'm apparently now on double-secret RussProbation™®©, and have to redeem myself.
I was just wondering, though. Is it still OK to talk about poker?
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Nutsonthechin, Wisconsin
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Anders..... your GIANT TRIP REPORT was fantastic and much appreciated and was quite a redeemer.... but hey, I'm just one turd of many in the punchbowl. No need to listen to me.
Post as you see fit and if in your heart you don't see yourself as a near continuous political poster who does not really have a dog in the race, can't vote on the passions of which you type, and does not even live in the U.S., then carry on with a clear conscience ;)
Secret probation is thus lifted, and your case has been handed over to HK for a followup review.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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While I work on both PCs and Macs, I have a Mac at home and prefer it but I am no expert and I have always found Hardman Knott's (and others) Mac postings to be of considerable help and interest.
So there.
Now back to the scheduled programming.
EDIT
Hey Russ, are you calling me bullsh#t? That does it, the gloves are off and the gauntlet is thrown down. Your place or mine? How about meeting half way (which would put it somewhere on the East Coast I think). ;-)
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Blowboarder
Boulder climber
Back in the mix
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States Evidence Sample A that the red sweats and denim jacket combo NEVER went out of style. Stone cold pimpn'
Although Ron's lucky he's not getting chased down by the federales or homeland security in that gettup.
Russ, I feel you man.
Quantity does not equal quality.
took a 35' once and landed softly on the ledge lower left above the stalagtite start.
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Blowboarder
Boulder climber
Back in the mix
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Amen, brother. I'm all about Walt Minnick. Either that or assassinating Sali...oops, this isn't the anarchists thread...all so confusing..one forum=big muddy mess...segregate this sh#t...just like america intended...f*#k, too many politicos in teh systemz...
http://www.WaltForCongress.org
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there blowboarder... say, actually, i have worn a similar "get up" as ron has on there...
works very very well for all kind of weather--- a poncho like that sees me through the cold winters (wraps around good to keep the wind out)(can even put a long coat over it to keep the snow off it)... great in spring, before it is too hot, as you can roll/fold the edges back:
turns into a good blanket to sit on, too... neat for all kinds of stuff...
but hey:
now a days, i must agree... you get mighty suspicious looks when you wear one... sad to say... (but i still do use it in winter on occasion---mostly around the cold house now)....
and as to mark's clothes... that was our good ol' california style back then for sure, many a times---yep, was and still is, always great for hitting the road, any kind of weather... (not too good at mix-and-match perhaps) :)
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Blowboarder
Boulder climber
Back in the mix
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hi neebee...i too had a nice poncho like that, got left in a friends vehicle overwinter and molded beyond recognition come springtime...alas, should have taken better care of it...your brothers combo works because of the mix and match, not despite..cheers!
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there goatboysmellz... say... i love that great outdoors picture!... and moon in the sky... man, oh, man.... say, you have inspired me!...course, i got no where to go... hmmmm....
SO: this weekend i must trek on across town and see my co-worker friend... at LEAST she is on the side of town where the WOODS are and at LEAST i will really feel like i am in the great outdoors again.... (i will even get some home-grown tomatoes, if the deer did not get them first)...
well:
i will let you know how this weekend "wildnerness-kind-of-sort-of turns out... (i will be walking through the trees, but not a rock in site, mind you----however---i WILL keep this picture in mind, goatboysmellz... a good vision is a must, in the great outdoors when one is to-trail...
thanks for the inspiration...
*say, send a trip report if you go climb that thing, okay?
by the way, what rock is that? (seen it before here on supertopo, too, right?)
thanks for the share...
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there blowboarder... hahahaha, say---so very true... there is not ONE chapman in our family that would EVER wear a matching sweatsuit combo (material-match, or color-match)....
hmmm, sure dont know why... it must be our brainwaves.... we're a mite on the vogue-dont-like-us style... :)
*course, we aint afraid of a "special occasion"---sure dont want to be kicked out of any fun-doings, when we're invited... :)
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Mimi
climber
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Werner, here's the magnificent sunrise I lucked out on! You one lucky sucka living where you do.
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Mimi
climber
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Rad sunrise bump for HD!
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jbar
Mountain climber
Atl,GA
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I'm with Russ. WTF It gets so aggrivating that I have been driven to reply. Never again. Common sense rules from her on. If there were a campfire with ppl bitchin and cryin about this sh#t it must have been cuz they all agree. Russ is right. If you want end all conversation quick like or find yourself suddenly looking at the starts just start talking this crap. I remember the one time me and a buddy got hammered on a rain day (even drank that nasty rose tequila swill) we started talking about religion. Don't remember what we said but everyone went to bed. Embarassing!
HEY Goatboy: Awesome pic! The notch looks totally melted out. I was planning on climbing it late October. Think it'll be in again by then?
Bluering: Season lags nov - feb? Sh#t Late Dec - early Feb is the only time we can ice climb down here in dixie. I know, I know. Most of the posters on here are westies. Last feb I even went to Bishop and climbed around on Cardinal. Course I was the only lunatic out there.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Mimi, spectacular !!!!!!!! Thanks. lrl
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Indeed. Now you will see it near the top when you click this part of the thread...
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Mimi
climber
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Good one, HK. I was so excited to post it, I didn't pay attention to the page break. That light doesn't seem real.
These webcams are much appreciated. Much thanks to the Yosemite Association for keeping them going and including the climate data.
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Jim E
climber
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Nov 16, 2008 - 04:31pm PT
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perswig
climber
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Nov 16, 2008 - 04:46pm PT
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Touched pick to ice yet, Mr. Ewing?
(Nice pic. I'm numbing my brain watching Warren Miller flicks.)
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Jim E
climber
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Nov 16, 2008 - 05:42pm PT
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No, perswig, not yet but very, very soon.
Fattrad, just trying to keep some LEB free havens on the front page.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Nov 16, 2008 - 05:55pm PT
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just trying to keep some LEB free havens on the front page.
I'm for that! She's mounted quite a campaign lately.
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Boise
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Nov 16, 2008 - 05:56pm PT
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The window is still open....
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Sir loin of leisure...
Trad climber
X
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Nov 16, 2008 - 06:07pm PT
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skully,sara bera went running,she's spossa come home and we gonna go shopping..
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paul roehl
Boulder climber
california
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Nov 16, 2008 - 06:24pm PT
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In keeping with the semi political drinking theme:
Q. Why did Hitler quit drinking whiskey?
A. It made him mean.
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Boise
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Nov 16, 2008 - 06:27pm PT
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Maybe he needed just 1 more shot....
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Nov 16, 2008 - 06:36pm PT
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Yawn, same ole same ole, which is not the same as olé.
But since this is a non-climbing thread, thanks Slakkey, I just have to say that I despise George W Bush to the full. The guy should be jailed for life, but he will be held up by the right-twits a a hero. Go figure.
Now for Hardman Knott... ;-)
Hey Paul, does whiskey make you frisky?
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Jim E
climber
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Nov 16, 2008 - 07:43pm PT
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^^^
Now there's a little PERSPECTIVE!!!
ahhhhhhhh
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Wonder
climber
WA
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Nov 16, 2008 - 07:56pm PT
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Last pitch or so of the Nose ?
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 16, 2008 - 07:58pm PT
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t*r said -- "it looks like a ginormous sliiide."
Yeah, it really does ....
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Mimi
climber
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Nov 16, 2008 - 07:59pm PT
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Right time of year for this place.
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ddavis
climber
Brooklyn, NY
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Nov 16, 2008 - 09:02pm PT
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As a filmmaker making a film about a climber, I come here to read about climbing related things.
Political stuff is interesting, but can be found a zillion places elsewhere on the internet.
I take part in a forum that discusses filmmaking issues. If someone gets on there and tries to talk about politics, the message doesn't even get posted. Why?
Moderators...
This site has no moderators, it would appear, and therefore, anyone with a point of view (or maybe even a pointless point of view...)who craves an audience (LEB comes to mind) can blather on about anything but climbing.
I'm not a climber per se, but last year I did manage the east ledges and ended up at the top of Zodiac and I jugged up a pitch or two (I forget exactly how much...it was too much frigging fun to be counting) of the Nose. I watched the Hubers break the Nose speed record. These are things to talk about on a forum like this, not politics. I watched Everest climber Dave Hahn heading up El Cap with Conrad, Ivo and Mr. Chin. I watched Cedar Wright perform slackline magic. Why tell you this? Cause it's a friggin' forum about CLIMBING for crying out loud. Politely say "No!" to extraneous BS. Don't let it be posted.
The solution is an easy one: moderators.
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the museum
Trad climber
Rapid City, SD
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Nov 16, 2008 - 09:35pm PT
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Went on an outing today.. Baldy - Elev 5608'. 1 mile each way. What a fine winter day.
Captions on top people.
Approach chimney
Second chimney
South Seas, Chopping Block, and Cathedral Spires in the distance..
Summit area
On descent from the Thin Man's Pleasure chimney. The man child was along today.. What a good kid Huh?
Crux move..on descent
Butt shot..
THE END
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jbar
Mountain climber
Inside my head
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Nov 16, 2008 - 09:46pm PT
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Museum thats awesome how you instill a love for the outdoors in your son. Too many kids today have no reason to get their butts off the sofa.
I spent Oct 24 - Nov 2 on a climbing trip in the Rockies and blissfully unaware of this forum. Supposed to be alpine ice up at longs but there wasn't any. I bet the poo was really flying close to election day. I made a point not to even look until the smoke cleared. People get stoopid.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Nov 16, 2008 - 11:36pm PT
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hey there the museum... say, this is great stuff!....
wonderful photos and wonderful looking times...
thanks for sharing all this...
*also, i have not been able to backtrack on this tonight... but i will hopefully, soon:
say, mimi.. that was a really nice rock-and-tree photo...
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luggi
Trad climber
atwater california
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Nov 17, 2008 - 12:15am PT
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Captain...I am not sure I really want to enter this however....you made a comment about knowledge...I look at it this way, there are people that have knowledge and they post stuff on the site....which is yada yada. BUT...wisdom is being able to utilize that knowledge most effectively. That is really as deep as I should go....this is supposed to be relaxing...
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Jim E
climber
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Nov 17, 2008 - 12:17am PT
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climbing, climbing, climbing.
all climbing.
climbing all the time, 24 hours a day 7 days a week, climbing.
No cover charge any time.
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Jim E
climber
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Nov 17, 2008 - 12:30am PT
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I think I posted this one many moons ago in another thread, but hey, it's climbing, climbing, climbing.
No cover charge anytime.
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Wonder
climber
WA
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Nov 17, 2008 - 12:31am PT
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Yaaaaa !! Thanks Mike. I should start climbing again. I think I still got it in me.
Might be moving back to cali soon.
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Jim E
climber
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Nov 17, 2008 - 12:35am PT
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Not exactly climbing, but hey, I was climbing when I found this little guy hiding in a cave at Mt Arapiles.
I posted this up in some sort of mystery places photo thread. Someone correctly identified it and the location but I never got the story of what the little dude is doing there.
No cover charge anytime.
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Jim E
climber
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Nov 17, 2008 - 12:38am PT
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that's a fine head jamm
20 years later and I still bear the scars.
But there is still not cover charge.
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Jim E
climber
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Nov 17, 2008 - 12:41am PT
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I still got 'em, too.
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Jim E
climber
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Nov 17, 2008 - 12:45am PT
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What do we have here?
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Wonder
climber
WA
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Nov 17, 2008 - 12:54am PT
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You got Mike, sweeet! On top in no time !
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 17, 2008 - 12:58am PT
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Ok, time for "change" in my posting (hopefully I won't bite too many hooks)
Me on the Nose in 81.
Some old codger soloing OKellys
Peace
Karl
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Jim E
climber
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Nov 17, 2008 - 01:00am PT
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Marathon, yes.
I had two pairs of Megas but one pair went up in flames when my old biz burned to the ground. They sure were good boots, they'uns.
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Jim E
climber
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Nov 17, 2008 - 01:02am PT
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Nice pic, Mike. Where be dat?
Karl, nice to see you in a climbing thread.
Great Texas Flake shot!
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WandaFuca
Gym climber
San Fernando Lamas
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Nov 17, 2008 - 01:03am PT
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First, I have to vehemently disagree with ddavis upthread--real climbers don't do anything with moderation.
But in the spirit of this thread . . .
. . . I submit A Texan from Space . . .
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le_bruce
climber
Oakland: what's not to love?
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Nov 17, 2008 - 03:01am PT
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Mike., can you help me figure out what is about to happen in your photo above the caption "Where the hell are you going, dude?"
If I had to guess, I'd say you've soloed, rapped, and jugged/cleaned a pitch that traverses a ton, but didn't lower out your bags when you were back at your lower anchor? Doesn't seem right though.
Edit: The pic of the Mushroom is wild!
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Nov 17, 2008 - 07:57am PT
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Hey, if there existed an old guidebook photo of me at peak handsomeness, leading the
Bridge of Khazad-Dûm, I'd be posting that with no cover charge too!
No such luck.
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jstan
climber
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Nov 17, 2008 - 09:52am PT
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Indeed!
Nervous some?
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Jim E
climber
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Nov 17, 2008 - 10:44am PT
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Chiloe,
Good thing you're protecting that piece of rock.
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Jim E
climber
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Nov 17, 2008 - 10:46am PT
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Fattrad,
Here's something political for you.
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Jim E
climber
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Nov 17, 2008 - 10:48am PT
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Caption needed.
Edit:
Mike, notice the Megas clipped to the pack.
edit II:
Watch for Mega appreciation thread.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Nov 17, 2008 - 11:05am PT
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Good thing you're protecting that piece of rock.
That was my non-directional anchor!
The topo sez, there's a runout on Tarbuster's lead above.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Nov 17, 2008 - 11:07am PT
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Caption needed.
Miss that old "Cheeseburgers in Paradise" t shirt from Lahaina. Not the shorts, though.
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Dick_Lugar
Trad climber
Indiana (the other Mideast)
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Nov 17, 2008 - 11:08am PT
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Ya, Mega's are the shizzle! Mega's appreciation thread Jim is much needed!
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T2
climber
Cardiff by the sea
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Nov 17, 2008 - 11:24am PT
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Caption.... "I don't think I have the guns for that one"
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Nov 17, 2008 - 11:33am PT
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Caption.... "I don't think I have the guns for that one"
Hah! But he prolly sent whatever it was ... even at 14.
Looks different now, of course.
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perswig
climber
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Nov 17, 2008 - 12:16pm PT
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Caption - When does the guidebook say my peak handsomeness will arrive, again?
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Jim E
climber
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Nov 17, 2008 - 12:20pm PT
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Peak handsomeness will return when this hair growth stimulator starts to work.
The head jam scraped all my hair off.
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T2
climber
Cardiff by the sea
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Nov 17, 2008 - 12:24pm PT
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Yea Chiloe with all due respect to whoever I was making that caption towards, but that was the first thing that came to mind. I have no doubt that kid cranks and probably would climb circles around me.
Best Regards
T2
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Jim E
climber
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Nov 17, 2008 - 12:25pm PT
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That 'kid' will be 45 in less than a month.
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T2
climber
Cardiff by the sea
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Nov 17, 2008 - 12:29pm PT
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Oh man "Im so confused"
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Nov 17, 2008 - 01:01pm PT
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I think we're talkin' about different ex-kids! The "caption" one ain't 45 yet.
But I guess we all useta be 14.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Nov 17, 2008 - 01:20pm PT
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That hair restorer looks evil. I bet it's converting your votes.
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Jim E
climber
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Nov 17, 2008 - 01:30pm PT
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ORG? I think I have a similar pic somewhere from the same day. Not scanned yet, though.
I told people it was my up-link to the mother ship.
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Jim E
climber
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Nov 17, 2008 - 01:37pm PT
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Now back to our regularly scheduled program.
Notice how my photos are so diverse? It's because I'm tolerant of opposing views.
No cover charge anytime.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Nov 17, 2008 - 01:45pm PT
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ORG?
Yep, lowering off The Light Within, I think. Or one of those over there.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Nov 17, 2008 - 01:52pm PT
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You're welcome......
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