what is the criteria to be considered a "VALLEY LOCAL"

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east side underground

Trad climber

crowley ca

Topic Author's Reply - Aug 28, 2008 - 02:57pm PT

mungeclimber, you are right its Not important, something to do when you can't do anything

Clint Cummins

Trad climber

SF Bay area, CA

Aug 28, 2008 - 02:57pm PT

locker,

Check your list:

> Sheryl Haber - 3300
> ...
> Sheryl Haber - 2000

"She's once, twice, three times a local..."?

WBraun

climber

Aug 28, 2008 - 03:05pm PT

Why guys like Dingus and Nefarious who live in the Valley, (central), who suffer extreme heat in the summer and cold fog in the winter are the real "Valley Locals" who climb outragious stuff we never see.

east side underground

Trad climber

crowley ca

Topic Author's Reply - Aug 28, 2008 - 03:16pm PT

WBRAUN = VALLEY LOCAL

Ksolem

Trad climber

Monrovia, Ca

Aug 28, 2008 - 03:19pm PT

My problem is that I don't like to do crummy routes. Therefore, even though I have climbed there every winter season since 1981, I will never actually be a Josh Local. To rack up several thousand routes in that place you have to climb a lot of choss. Heck, even RV only has 1500.

I would be surprised if I have done over 500 different climbs in Josh. Of course some I have done a stack of times, and others took a long time to do...

Russ Walling

Social climber

Nutsonthechin, Wisconsin

Aug 28, 2008 - 03:19pm PT

You need to have been in a bivy sack with Curry employee that was over 250lbs and have punched, or have been punched, by someone in the Camp 4 parking lot over bolting. Oh, and eaten Basmati rice with Werner.

east side underground

Trad climber

crowley ca

Topic Author's Reply - Aug 28, 2008 - 03:26pm PT

How about drinking to much old english at the deli, a very important requirement?

Nefarius

Big Wall climber

Fresno, CA

Aug 28, 2008 - 03:27pm PT

You up for some basmati rice this weekend, Werner?

Bart Fay

Social climber

Redlands, CA

Aug 28, 2008 - 03:47pm PT

Local Schmokle.
All I know is that if there was a well kept Valley Local List akin to what Gordo has
been maintaining it would be a lot easier to know which ropes to crap upon.

east side underground

Trad climber

crowley ca

Topic Author's Reply - Aug 28, 2008 - 03:51pm PT

how about a new thread, ever had your ropes crapped on?

Mighty Hiker

Social climber

Vancouver, B.C.

Aug 28, 2008 - 04:09pm PT

If you're a hillbilly, you're only a local if seven of your eight great-grandparents were born in the place - and they were all cousins.

A famous parody of such parochial attitudes, perhaps apocryphal, is a supposed headline from The Times in the late 19th century: "English Channel covered by dense fog. Continent isolated."

We humans do like to feel possessive about places, but localism and parochialism amongst climbers is usually silly and often counter-productive. Ultimately it would lead to each of his sitting on his or her rock in the forest, claiming superiority, when it's pretty clear that we need to be inclusive. Also, most climbers aren't local to an area in any real sense, having been born and raised elsewhere, and only recently moving there.

east side underground

Trad climber

crowley ca

Topic Author's Reply - Aug 28, 2008 - 04:25pm PT

you are right about humans being possessive about their turf, localism is akin to Nationalism and maybe patriotism? When people are willing to give their all to protect whats theirs, to keep others out of "My country, My rock, My wave," Kind of a F@#ked-up deal. Maybe thats why immigration issues are such a big deal all over the world. Whats the answer?

the Fet

Knackered climber

A bivy sack in the secret campground

Aug 28, 2008 - 05:02pm PT

I think it funny when people think they have more right to a National Park because they live there or near by. It belongs to all of us.

It's strange that whenever I'm in the valley people are constantly coming up to me asking where such and such is, or what times things close, etc. It doesn't really happen much anywhere else. I usually have the answers, and I guess it's just the way I carry myself, that at least it seems like I know what's going on. I feel more at home in the valley than almost anywhere else, like that is where I'm supposed to be spending my time, maybe that's reflected in my demeanor.

It's weird when "locals" call it 'the ditch' to be cool. LOL. Or complain about the crowds and noise. Why are your there if it's sooo bad. I can easily avoid the crowds and overlook the tourists and see the beauty right behind them.

Ouch!

climber

Aug 28, 2008 - 05:21pm PT

To be a Local, you must have slept with a bear, never washed your hair, and peed in the Merced River.

east side underground

Trad climber

crowley ca

Topic Author's Reply - Aug 28, 2008 - 05:41pm PT

so I'm a HAOLE, whats that make you? BARNEY?

Captain...or Skully

Big Wall climber

up Yonder (someplace else)

Aug 28, 2008 - 05:57pm PT

Stupid so-called dinosaur....he needs teeth....& claws!

east side underground

Trad climber

crowley ca

Topic Author's Reply - Aug 28, 2008 - 06:08pm PT

I would NEVER use that BARNEY'S name in vain ( I have a young child!!) I was refering to BARNEY FIFE of Mayberry fame. Maybe you are not old enough to remember.