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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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when my father donned a shirt with this logo at a family christmas gathering, i went to the back of the property, flipped my gerry garcia shirt inside out and and permanent markered
'two wrongs make a republican'
passive aggressive interaction at its finest.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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As the U.S.A. by definition is a liberal democracy, are you trying to say that all Americans are mentally disordered? That seems a bit extreme.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Wow, your dad sounds like a swell guy. Does he have a Savage Nation hat? I got some nice comments sporting mine climbing a couple of weeks ago.
Borders, Language, Culture beeatches.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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" God help us...
8 crack dealers shielded by S.F. walk away"
But the SF officials responsible for this were not completely brain dead. At least they had the sense to ship them to San Bernardino County before turning them loose. Residents of San Bernardino County (or for that matter LA County) are not going to be happy when they find out about this.
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the Fet
Knackered climber
A bivy sack in the secret campground
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Michael Savage is funny. He's like the Andrew Dice Clay of talk radio. I wonder if he knows gays call each other savage as a pet name? Too bad he doesn't have the guts to go by his real name WEINER, LOL.
Liberalism is a mental disorder and Conservatism is selfish self delusion.
I'd be careful about listening to too much savage though, he's very negative. And like most talk radio hosts he uses fear and hate to encourage you to listen and make him money. Any one who is not a conservative like him is a FAR LEFT SF LIBERAL looney, because we are either for us or against us right?
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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Rok, though you may be right about insane people running the state, this here action was caused by city officials.
Savage is such a moron I can't believe anyone listens to him, and I am no bleeding heart lib. I actually think he and Coulter are closet liberals who just want to see what they can get away with, and make some dough off others' stupidity in the process. Does savage still digress into nutrition? I heard him once ranting on about the benefits of ginseng.
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
Yonder
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As far as I'm concerned, ALL 'isms' are a disorder, mental & otherwise.....
"illegal crack dealers"....does that imply that there are legal crack dealers?
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rectorsquid
climber
Lake Tahoe
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I think that a government agency breaking federal law (aiding and abetting) is not liberalism. It's way beyond that.
Sort of like how G.W. is not a conservative, he's way beyond that.
Extremism is a mental disorder regardless of it being up, down, left, or right.
Dave
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drgonzo
Trad climber
east bay, CA
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Wow this must be what it's like at a party at the Limbaugh household...sans all the OxyContin.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Limbaugh is a hack...neocon apologist.
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Svennordic
Social climber
Seattle Washington
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Too many illegal alien here now and voting. The liberals are looking to cash in on their votes. I guess crack dealers vote too.
Sven
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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If they're illegal immigrant crack dealers they probably can vote in San Francisco, mostly other cities have common sense.
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Paul Martzen
Trad climber
Fresno
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What an inspiring story.
Eight young free enterprise entrepreneurs are temporarily put out of business by government regulators. Realizing that overburdened tax payers will be charged $60,000 per year for each of the eight if they are incarcerated, or $7,000 per month for each if they stayed in a youth home, they used their individual initiative to better themselves. They abandoned government programs and set out on their own to rejoin the marketplace and contribute to the economy.
The president should give them a medal, but they are probably too proud, too self reliant to accept any acknowledgment of their contributions to capitalism.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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"Where are the people defending the burglars in the other thread? They should be here making excuses for these Honduran turds."
No one is "defending" the burglars in the other thread. Some of us just believe that in a civil society there should be due process before people are punished. And burglary isn't punishable by the death penalty.
As of for the drug dealers. Put them in prison for a while and then deport them.
The SF officials must have broken some laws - maybe aiding and abetting? If they have, they should be prosecuted.
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Ronin
Trad climber
Franklin, WV
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Actually, politics are a mental disorder. Partisan politics is just choosing a particular set of obsessive/compulisive behaviors and reactions to empower the illusion of differences among the inmates of the asylum.
I'm a nihilist anarchist masochist... I'd destroy everything, but it wouldn't make any difference, so instead, I go climbing and destroy myself.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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"I'm a nihilist anarchist masochist... I'd destroy everything, but it wouldn't make any difference, so instead, I go climbing and destroy myself. "
There must be a lot of those around here.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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More on this issue today;
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-immig2-2008jul02,0,1476174.story
from the link SF Mayor Gavin Newsom said...
In addition, San Francisco officials misinterpreted state law, he said, thinking that the Welfare and Institutions Code prohibited them from sharing juvenile criminal information with federal authorities. The city attorney, he said, has recently "clarified that that is not the case."
Russoniello wasn't buying it Tuesday, calling Newsom's explanation "all contrivance."
"They have said all along that it was the sanctuary policy that mandated they shield these people from ICE," he said. "It's only because it's so preposterous that the sanctuary law would shield drug dealers that they've now come up with this alibi."
Gavin’s lying through his teeth. And just today he annouces he’s exploring a run for Governor. Does he think the rest of Cali is as stupid as San Franciscans?
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Spiny Norman
Social climber
Boring, Oregon
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Gotta love people who want to talk politics but don't know how to think about policy.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jerry Brown is a hero for having the balls to actually fix problems. That is why he is one of the most popular and best governors California has ever had. If he is p1ssing bluey off he must be doing something right
Less than three weeks into Donald Trump’s presidency, Gov. Jerry Brown has never been more popular, and nearly two-thirds of adults in the nation’s most populous state want California to go its own way on climate change and immigration, according to a new poll.
The poll, released late Thursday by the nonpartisan Public Policy Institute of California, comes amid intensifying conflict between Trump and heavily Democratic California. State lawmakers are fast-tracking legislation to shield undocumented immigrants from deportation, and they have hired Eric Holder, the former U.S. attorney general, to help prepare for potential litigation against the Trump administration on issues ranging from climate change to health care and immigration.
Brown’s approval rating of 62 percent is a record high for the fourth-term governor in PPIC surveys, up from 57 percent in December. The Democrat-controlled Legislature has also seen its stock improve since Trump took office. Its 57 percent approval rating is the highest it has been since before the energy crisis in 2001.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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As the U.S.A. by definition is a liberal democracy, are you trying to say that all Americans are mentally disordered?
The "Liberal" in "Liberal Democracy" refers to Liberty, not a political point of view.
From the Oxford:
mass noun
1. A democratic system of government in which individual rights and freedoms are officially recognized and protected, and the exercise of political power is limited by the rule of law.
In other words any political view is equally at home in a Liberal Democracy.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Outside the Asylum
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OK, OK - the USA is a liberal, federal, democratic republic.
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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Jerry Brown is not as popular as the media polls claim. They conduct these polls in liberal cities like San Francisco and Los Angeles. They allow illegal immigrants to participate. If these polls were done up in Northern Counties, a much different picture would emerge. In the 26 northern counties that overwhelmingly vote conservative, you will be hard pressed to find a Brown supporter. And while we are at it consider that no matter how many people are in the wrong, its not a reason to join them. Herd mentality is what is driving the sheep in our state. Nowadays, it is the conservative who is the free thinker. I will continue to form my own opinions regardless of what the sheep say we all should think. A majority of Lemmings think its a good idea to jump off a cliff and swim out to sea and drown. They dont know that the phermone alpha that leads them to their death is a proxy for those who remain behind to reproduce and survive. California voters are like lemmings, ignoring the obvious facts about the real causes of poverty, ignorance and financial catastrophe which loom large here.
You cant have everything you want. So we must choose. Those who choose to spend our tax dollars tilting windmills and striving for an impossible utopia are forsaking the obvious needs of our people and infrastructure. Ghandi said "Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth." I find myself often in the minority of one position for advocating what I believe is obvious common sense. Necessities first, moonbeam ideas second. Perhaps a tax on millionaires who cannot show anything for all the taxes they pocket. Most infrastructure administrators get paid millions, with nothing to show for it. Feinstein is a good example.
You shall know them by the fruits they bear. Just look at the homeless situation in Sacramento and its demographics. That is the real proof of the California Legislature and its real goals. They dont give a shyt about anyone. They only covet money and power. By empowering illegals to overthrow and conquer our Nation, these deceitful leaders have ascended to power, cashing in on liberal comfort and "white guilt." Illegal immigration, refugees and sanctuary cities are a de facto invasion. A childrens crusade to conquer America. These are not evil people coming here. But they are desperate, predatory and uneducated. Our leaders are using them as proxies, just like the Lemmings.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Blind post If I had a hammer I would hammer out a WARNINING!
Ksolem,
Trad climber, Monrovia, California
Apr 8, 2017 - 03:18pm PT
As the U.S.A. by definition is a liberal democracy, are you trying to say that all Americans are mentally disordered?
The "Liberal" in "Liberal Democracy" refers to Liberty, not a political point of view.
From the Oxford:
mass noun
1. A democratic system of government in which individual rights and freedoms are officially recognized and protected, and the exercise of political power is limited by the rule of law.
In other words any political view is equally at home in a Liberal Democracy.
Mighty Hiker,
climber
Outside the Asylum,
Apr 8, 2017 - 04:36pm PT
OK, OK - the USA is a liberal, federal, democratic republic.
Not. for Very Much Longer ! A Few Months If That ! , the Republic under this Regime is failing! Yesterday early evening, after 6:30pm ,
The TV broadcast was interrupted by:
1)an all red screen.
2) a loud '3 Bells' alert: audio "loop, recorded" sound of '3 Bells' -like- 'fog horn' blasts
3) some mic. checking, (static between blasts, of different natures? Live clicks?)
And
4) a scrolling banner that red in large white letters " Civil Emergency Warning "
I quelled fears among the wife and kids that it was just the storm warning system.
It was not an amber alert or a storm warning .
It was a test of the Civil warning notification system,
the 1st steps that an Authoritarian dictatorship has to deploy before declaring
Martial law.
Of course in Trump-havens, where homes are multi-millions in assets
& cash so the flock, have no problem sheltering in cloister'd neighborhoods.
That my experience now includes a Civil warning alert blasted into my living room,
Across my 80 inch screen, ala' the 1960s. Duck & Cover, Civil Emergency drills,
Not all here remember the "hide under desks" Cold War days.
Jerry Brown is not as popular as the media polls claim.
They conduct these polls in liberal cities like San Francisco and Los Angeles.
They allow illegal immigrants to participate.
If these polls were done up in Northern Counties, a much different picture would emerge.
In the 26 northern counties that overwhelmingly vote conservative, you will be hard pressed to find a Brown supporter.
And while we are at it consider that no matter how many people are in the wrong, its not a reason to join them.
Herd mentality is what is driving the sheep in our state.
Nowadays, it is the conservative who is the free thinker.
I will continue to form my own opinions regardless of what the sheep say we all should think.
A majority of Lemmings think its a good idea to jump off a cliff and swim out to sea and drown.
They dont know that the phermone alpha that leads them to their death is a proxy for those who remain behind to reproduce and survive.
California voters are like lemmings, ignoring the obvious facts about the real causes of poverty, ignorance and financial catastrophe which loom large here.
You cant have everything you want.
So we must choose. Those who choose to spend our tax dollars tilting windmills and striving for an impossible utopia are forsaking the obvious needs of our people and infrastructure.
Ghandi said "Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth." I find myself often in the minority of one position for advocating what I believe is obvious common sense.
Necessities first, moonbeam ideas second.
Perhaps a tax on millionaires who cannot show anything for all the taxes they pocket.
Most infrastructure administrators get paid millions, with nothing to show for it.
Feinstein is a good example.
You shall know them by the fruits they bear.
Just look at the homeless situation in Sacramento and its demographics.
That is the real proof of the California Legislature and its real goals.
They dont give a shyt about anyone.
(I hope that 'Chainsaw' has your attention. -in the spirit of his initial share I've left the most important conclusion in its original rant form, . . . . )
They only covet money and power.
By empowering illegals to overthrow and conquer our Nation, these deceitful leaders have ascended to power, cashing in on liberal comfort and "white guilt." Illegal immigration,refugees and sanctuary cities are a de facto invasion.
A childrens crusade to conquer America.
These are not evil people coming here. But they are desperate, predatory and uneducated.
Our leaders are using them as proxies, just like the Lemmings.
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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Gnome Of the Diabase: . . . in Trump-havens, where homes are multi-millions in assets
& cash so the flock, . . .
I don’t think you’re clear on the voting demographics of the last presidential election.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Gubnor Moonbeam declared the end of the drought? Really? He has a crystal ball, or doesn't he believe in global warming?
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c wilmot
climber
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Brown is corrupt. If you disagree just call state officials and ask for your own state funded assessment of the feasibility of oil development on your private land...
After a phone call from the governor and follow-up requests from his aides, senior staffers in the state's oil and gas regulatory agency over at least two days produced a 51-page historical report and geological assessment, plus a personalized satellite-imaged geological and oil and gas drilling map for the area around Brown's family ranchland
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techingaste
Ice climber
placid lake
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making money is easy,
within capitalism.
it is everywhere, in excess.
greed decorates a lazy soul.
fear then moves in.
fear about running out of more than you need.
then ignorance takes root.
and hatred.
"he'll take what i deserve. strip him of his liberties."
republicans seek this path, because it's easy. and they are
weak. in spirit; in mind; and in body...(f*#k you i'm not sharing my excess i'll hoard it instead; christianity is boss, yo! and i want to sit on my ass in my big truck, or any big motorized transport and fling my lazy self about, because GODDAMn it it's my RIGHT!)
more difficult is the path of kindness, sharing, compassion, listening, and giving.
liberals are stout. replicans watered-down lager.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Jerry Brown is a hero for having the balls to actually fix problems. That is why he is one of the most popular and best governors California has ever had.
Here Here! Not perfect but a perfectly functional leader doing his job in this wacky state after decades of cluster-fuk attempts at govenorship.
He is fiscally conservative and wise. Prejudice people rail against him on a partisan stance but he is more Republican in action than any republican for a very long time.
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techingaste
Ice climber
placid lake
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i was skating the other day;
having a hard time with a new trick.
i got frustrated, though continued the struggle.
man that's a difficult sport..
i ended up leaving and found myself
wanting to go to the skateshop
and buy something... a magazine or some-shite
just to make my failure less painfull.
and i realized that i was acting like a republican:
substituting material gains for personal achievement.
it's way f*#king easier to just buy yourself success than
it is to earn it through repeated toil.
the lazy, fat, pasty white man is a shame to america.
an absolute shame, though representative of conservative america (our tepid man in charge is one himself.)
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Gubnor Moonbeam declared the end of the drought? Really? He has a crystal ball, or doesn't he believe in global warming?
Neither, he looks at the reservoir levels and snow pack and knows we have enough water for a while.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Had O'Reilly read anything but the headline he would have known this...
Still, the Brown administration warned that it’s not time to start letting the tap run freely. Some policies introduced during the drought, such as bans on hosing down driveways and outdoor watering within 48 hours of rain, will remain in place. Most significantly, state officials continue to hammer out a set of long-term water regulations that promises continued austerity down the road.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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I'll give Jerry credit on one count. He likes to drink raw milk, so he's seen to it that it is legal in California.
But...
I'd rather have a stong, uncorrupted leader with vision...
I think it's time to start following the money on that bullet train.
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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Dingus: I'd rather have a stong, uncorrupted leader with vision who has the courage to say what he thinks I need to hear rather than a weak, corrupted stooge who only tells me what I want to hear and stabs me in the back room deal.
That’s quite list of negative characteristics. Enter Satan.
What would you feel about a strong-willed, uncorrupted administrator who devotes him or herself to the adherence of an ideology? Is being "a good man" the paramount criterion?
If you live in the contemporary world, you demand performance. That leads to people who DO perform. Then you get what you get. (You may not like it.)
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Apr 10, 2017 - 12:12pm PT
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You mentioned that you don't like the 12% gas tax. Welcome to the majority of Californians. But if that's the case, just how did Brown get this thing passed? He spread nearly $1B around in pork to the districts of legislators who stood against the tax. That's an expenditure of huge sums of tax money to pass a tax. Legal bribery.
You know what's insidious about this tax? It will drive up consumer costs at the same time that it is indexed for inflation. So as the tax drives up the costs of everything we (rich and poor alike) buy, the tax goes up automatically to match.
Another related point. Poorer people generally drive cars or small trucks which use more gas than those of us who might buy a nice hybrid or even an electric. So not only are they hit disproportionately by rising costs (everything you buy rode on a truck,) and the simple increase in fuel prices as part of their income, but largely due to economic necessities they tend to use more fuel per mile traveled.
Now, in what way does Brown care two bits about under-privileged Californians?
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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Apr 10, 2017 - 12:35pm PT
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DMT, I have to agree with you that Brown is better than Governator, Pete the cheat Wilson and Dukemagen. He is not corrupt. But he is a pawn to the democrat majority. I would like a Governor who doesnt always give the Legislature what it says it wants. The executive branch is effective when it vetos some things. But you are right to counter some of what I said. Jerry is a good ole boy in diguise. After all, he owns 25 shotguns and a ranch in the sticks....I wish he would represent me a little more. I spent today working with a major developer's subcontractors. Every single worker didnt speak English..... Llamo poco Espanol, Para Aprendo que yo puedo. Mi Espanol es muy tontoria. Lo es difficile. Lo es muy importante aprender Espanol en California. When people claim that immigrants take jobs that noone else wants, thats not true. Ese esta no verdad! I used to get paid well for my trades. Now its not what it was. How can I not speak up? Todos la gente qui quieres la gubierno controllar todos el mundo no travajar en ellos vistas. They dont even know which end to grab a hammer!
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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Apr 10, 2017 - 01:01pm PT
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Hey Techinghast, who is this fat white blob yer talkin about? Alot of the folks you are implicating are the hard working families who built roads, forged steel, built houses, painted, hanged powerlines, the list goes on and on.... I see alot of folks who push pencils tellin the folks who cut the logs for their houses what to do. If you dont wield a shovel for a living then who are you to decree that we lose our jobs? What do you do for a living?
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Apr 10, 2017 - 01:09pm PT
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But he is a pawn to the democrat majority.
Sleep with dirty dogs, smell like a dirty dog...
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Apr 10, 2017 - 01:41pm PT
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mass noun
1. A democratic system of government in which individual rights and freedoms are officially recognized and protected, and the exercise of political power is limited by the rule of law.
In other words any political view is equally at home in a Liberal Democracy
Individual rights and freedoms [for all citizens, not just some], the rule of law? [Like respecting the decision of "some so called judge" and/or one of Hispanic descent].
I don't think Trump's political view point is equally at home...
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Toller
climber
Rushville
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Apr 10, 2017 - 02:04pm PT
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I had to give up climbing to arthritis about 6 years ago, but I recognize several names from rec.climbing maybe 100 years ago.
Same people?
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Apr 10, 2017 - 02:40pm PT
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Well, um, I guess I'm disorderd mentally. . .
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Apr 10, 2017 - 05:19pm PT
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maddog69
Trad climber
CO
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Apr 10, 2017 - 06:01pm PT
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The New Rant Form (c 2009)
(Circle one option only from each parenthetical bracket.)
I am a (Republican, Democrat, Steven Colbert).
I am (angry, irate, psychotically broken).
I attribute my joyless worldview to extremist (Republicans, Liberals) and (The Liberal New York Times Media, The Republican Fox-News Media, that Jon Stewart prick).
You people all need to (wake-up, turn the channel, take English 101 at community college)!
For sure, if you disagree with my (opinion, rant, 10,000 word manifesto) then you are a (fag-traitor, godless-miscreant, zealot-bastard) and, you should be (jailed, beaten, taxed) without benefit of a (fair trial, mortgage bailout, recount).
The world is full of problems that I can't solve, because I am not actually a (economist, college graduate, trustee here at the prison). I am however a naturally gifted analyst - despite the fact that I only get world news from (Fox, New York Times, Al Jazeera).
I am (particularly gifted, the Chosen One, delusional) when it comes to assessing who else is to blame for my manic joylessness. Further, I genuinely believe that I can become as popular as ( George Washington, Jesus, that Stewart prick) just by (writing un-edited 10,000 word manifestos, writing obsessed incendiary trolling comments, a mall massacre).
There is just no (joy, hope, chance of getting laid) in my world. This (crisis, disaster, apocalyptic orgy of doom) is clearly and obviously the fault of (Dick Cheney, Michelle Obama, The Illuminati).
I think that (real Americans, true patriots, Steven Colbert) are justified in fighting this (tyranny, socialism, Mossad conspiracy) using (full-auto war rifles, barrels of ANFO, gerrymandered re-districting).
We will only enjoy (liberty, lower taxes, getting some hootchi-kootchie) after we restore my beloved country to the former greatness of the sentimental past, as captured by such films as (The Sons of Katie Elder, Saving Private Ryan, Star Wars IV –A New Hope).
In the mean time, we have been historically (short-johned, gin-poled, electric banjo-pronged) by the inability of (Congress,
) to provide ethical, non-partisan leadership in these (dark times, strange days, early weeks of the revolution). Yes, until (congress, ) can provide some selfless political sacrifice I am keeping my (gun loaded, bunker stocked, money in oil stocks).
If you are not (with us, against us, half-in-the-bag by noon) then you are obviously (with us, against us, half-in-the-bag by noon) and you really need to WAKE UP.
Ride for the High Country
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Apr 10, 2017 - 06:07pm PT
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Apr 10, 2017 - 06:21pm PT
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Danged if I know. My only point is I do not have to have concurrent political views to appreciate the job of Governor Brown. The rest was just excessive use of adjectives and adverbs. :)
I voted for Jerry 3x, but didn't vote for him the last time because we now have divergent political views.
Jerry is an example of why I don't think people who are over seventy should run for public office. The older one gets, the possibility of compromise is lessened.
He's got a sixty percent approval rating. I don't get that.
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
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Apr 10, 2017 - 06:23pm PT
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Making dogma of a principle ends up betraying the principle. Same deal whether that involves liberalism or conservatism or whatever.
That sounds like the bigger picture of a mental disorder.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Apr 10, 2017 - 09:05pm PT
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He's got a sixty percent approval rating. I don't get that.
Not for long. I had a chat with the CPA today. He admits he could be off by a penny either way, but since this tax is indexed to inflation and it will drive up consumer prices his opinion is that it will be around .20 in three years. And the higher it gets the faster it grows.
I find this interesting since I'm not a big fan of (excessively) progressive tax rates. But this one could hardly be more upside down when it comes to punishing those with the least. Maybe this is what it will take to bring about a good house cleaning in Sack-Ramento. No, never mind. No point in dreaming.
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