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Jennie
Trad climber
Idaho Falls
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Topic Author's Original Post - May 7, 2008 - 09:57pm PT
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This is scary. I warned Jody about taunting and making inflammatory posts. A friend in Yosemite reported Jody was hit, at El Cap Bridge, by an unidentified photographer whom Jody had taunted about winning a photo contest. So much for Mr Tough Guy.
Apparently he isn't hurt. I was able to reach his daughter by phone. She said Jody was out on a shopping spree spending the winning fee as well as royalties for a couple of photos that will appear in September Rock and Ice.
Does the transition to successful outdoor photographer make law enforcement officers forget how to duck?
http://addeadline.mountainhardwear.com/
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marky
climber
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I read maybe the first sentence or two then stopped
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Open mouth. Insert foot. . . oops!
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Read the transcript on Fox News -
"I got the prize and you didn't, I won the money and you didn't, neener, neener ,neener WHAM!"
End of transcript.
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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hmmm...somehow the words "taunted" and "sucker punch" don't seem to belong in the same sentence/thought.
Hope all is well, Jodester.
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jstan
climber
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But did Jody get a picture of it with exceptional composition?
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Shack
Big Wall climber
Reno NV
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I figured Jody could take a punch.
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SammyLee2
Trad climber
Memphis, TN
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Try getting you assed kicked into darkness. Happened to me. I learned combat handgun skills in that same year. Not planning to let it happen again. At the same time, I'm not planning to kill a fellow over a single punch.
Blah, blah, blah. Anyone one of us, regardless of how "bad" we are, can be hit by a sucker punch. Not file charges and go on. Life as a man.
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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Yeah, SL2--I mean, why can't females understand that when a man goes out, his footwear reflects the action that may soon come?
"Why are you wearing THOSE shoes?"
"Umm, because you NEVER know what can happen."
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Loomis
climber
Lat/Lon: 35.64 -117.66
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Jody, good job!
$1000.00 Shopping spree, damn I'm jealous.
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SammyLee2
Trad climber
Memphis, TN
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Yeah Mojede, I'd like to see those shoes that kicked me near to death. Won't ever. I tried, for years, to find out who those guys were. No longer a plan. Gone forever.
I am careful these days, to be prepared. Watch their hands, early on. Stand back, more than arms length. But hell, these days, I wear a suit with dress shoes. No choice, no kick ass footwear, but an alert mind and a concealed weapons permit.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Idaho Falls
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Topic Author's Reply - May 7, 2008 - 11:48pm PT
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"But did Jody get a picture of it with exceptional composition?"
Yes, jstan. My opinion is Jody's entry (grand prize) had exceptional composition. The vivid orange really stands out against the neutral colors of the rocks and surf.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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"She said Jody was out on a shopping spree spending the winning fee as well as royalties for a couple of photos that will appear in September Rock and Ice. "
That's when I knew this was a troll. Photos never seem to equal shopping spree.
Peace
karl
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
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Any one with shorts as tight as Jodys you don't "sucker punch" anyway... you slap them.
Side note: Jennie = Jody - Michelle + Mimi
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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worthy photo
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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So, Jerry hit Jody?
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Prod
Social climber
Charlevoix, MI
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I avoid Jody like the plague, he is just too contentious for me. As soon as he gets into a thread I am usually heading out. I have read very few of his threads, or threads that he infects. What’s funny is when I saw Jennie posted a thread about Jody I immediately thought Jennie = Jody too.
Also I recently heard that Jody is a big (strong) dark haired guy. I would have pegged him as a small red head that most likely had a runny nose problem as a child. Funny how you try to match a face/ persona to what you read.
Granted I do not know Jody, and he may be a great guy. The above was just my impression.
Prod.
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rockanice
climber
new york
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Prod, you're thinking of Mr. Beasley's friend.
Edit: Fattrad, more info = Brian Keith's TV son on "Family Affair" (if you meant me). OOPS. It's Mrs. Beasley and Buffy's doll not Jody
Maybe Prod (nice pic below) knows how to post that one.
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Prod
Social climber
Charlevoix, MI
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Hey Rockandice,
This is what I was thinking....
Prod.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Some of you people need a humor detector. It was a joke! Except the part about him winning the contest. That was real.
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Jody vs DaftRat...
Tasers at 5 paces please.
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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I heard that Mimi punched his lights out. Maybe it was just a rumor...
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Or it could've been misplaced humor. . .
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L
climber
The salty ocean blue and deep
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Congrats Jody.
I remember that photo from a photo thread quite a while back. Very cool shot compositionally, and the colors...striking.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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congrats jody.
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Sebastopol, CA
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Yeah, nice one. I have to wonder if Jody is really "Above the Fray," or if the sleeper wave contained within the t&c could still wash over him... hmm. As L said, I could swear I'd seen that photo before. Oh well. ;-l
BTW, $1K shopping spree for a full page print ad, plus all rights in all media in perpetuity blah blah blah... is what we call crap rates, aka: rights grab. Those terms are atrocious. The winner here is Mtn Hardwear. Sorry Jody. I still think your photos are winners though.
Can't believe this stuff. You might as well have just signed over the copyright by merely entering the contest:
"Publicity: Except where prohibited, by participating in the Ad Deadline Contest and regardless of whether you are the winner, you grant Sponsor and its subsidiaries, affiliates, and licensees an exclusive, irrevocable license to use, alter, adapt, edit, publish, distribute, copy, exhibit, display, market, promote, advertise, publicize and/or otherwise exploit your entry, including your name, signature, photographs, likeness, written and other entry materials, as well as additional photographs, video footage or other images that Sponsor may take of you if you are a winner, in whole or in part, in any manner and for whatever purpose Sponsor shall individually elect, in any and all languages, and in any and all media now known or hereinafter developed, including but not limited to, website, television, radio and/or printed materials, worldwide in perpetuity, without further compensation, notification or permission. You shall not claim or be entitled to receive any compensation or credit for such use. If you are a winner, you agree to wear Mountain Hardwear's branded outerwear and apparel as directed by Mountain Hardwear during any trip, photo shoot or filming related to a Prize."
Sheesh.
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handsome B
Gym climber
SL,UT
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$8,000-$10,000 is a pretty fair price for full, exclusive rights on an image
Mountain Hardware is getting a good deal
Jody makes nice landscape images
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
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I think if someone sucker punches you, then yes do have the right to kill them.
Juan
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno, CA
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I wonder... Did they Provide Jody with Astroglide before handing him a pen?
Yikes!
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Sebastopol, CA
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Thats a $1K RETAIL shopping spree, so it might cost MH, what, $200?
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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$1K- $8k- $10k- it doesn't really matter if the world is only 6k yrs old and you are perpetually on the edge of your seat waiting for The End of Days... or something like that.
EDIT
hey randy,
i thnk if you've spent enough time in church, you are likely to be experienced enough to know that you should show up w/ your own astroglide!
(ba dum bum!)
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dirtbag
climber
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This is just begging for an Ouch-toon.
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L
climber
The salty ocean blue and deep
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That's what I was saying Jerry--I never forget a photo.
Edit: Could probably argue that "published" wording. Also, just because the content's the same, it might not be the exact same photo.
Dirtbag--where are you? We need your expertise on this....:-)
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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Dang it! I did punch him but it was for a different reason! Now I need to go back out there and punch him again... Now my fist is going to be swollen for the weekend!
AF
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dirtbag
climber
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"Dirtbag--where are you? We need your expertise on this....:-) "
Jody: don't swallow any plastic forks. Believe me.
That's 'bout all I've got. :-(
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Sebastopol, CA
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It's pretty clear: "To qualify, your entry and related materials must: ... Not have been previously published, made publicly available in any manner whatsoever, or submitted in connection with any other contest or promotion."
I'd assume that includes the internet.
Hey, who cares though. I'm happy for Jody that he won.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno, CA
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"hey randy, i thnk if you've spent enough time in church, you are likely to be experienced enough to know that you should show up w/ your own astroglide!"
hahaha LOL! Being raised Catholic (I've since retired) I resemble that comment! hahaha Seriously, when you go to church, CYA!
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Jerry - interesting comments. But there is no evidence that his 2 images have been used before.
Clicking on that link to Jody's thread shows a near-identical photo, but it's not the same image.
So technically you (and L) are wrong. Nice try, though...
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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You mean someone else punched him?!
(That isn't fair! I want to be first!)
Pouting...
AF
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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jerry-- i really doubt it includes the internet. it seems to be aimed at eliminating photos previously published by, say, other outdoor gear companies or maybe one of the mags. if you eliminate every photographer whose uploaded an image to their flickr page, you'd not have many entrants.
sure, the internet--more specifically, this commercial chat room-- is nominally "public," but then so are the picnic tables in camp 4.
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L
climber
The salty ocean blue and deep
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HK,
If you read my post, you would see I said it might not be the exact same photo, just same contents. Go see.
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Sebastopol, CA
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Oh, the same photo is indeed not there now. But in the stock photo world, we deal with "Similar's" and this would absolutely qualify. Call it related, or whatever. And as to the internet, I've had magazines not publish my photos because I posted them on this very site. So, to me, the language is very clear.
Gotta run, ya'll have fun.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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So Jerry - even if you are correct, what's your motivation for bringing this up?
Jody is KNOTT a professional photographer, and he is quite pleased to have won the contest
and to get $1000.00 worth of gear for images that otherwise would have languished in obscurity.
And if he is indeed being so grossly exploited or taken advantage of, more power to him if he bent the rules.
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handsome B
Gym climber
SL,UT
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Hardman,
I think Jerry was just ribbing him for breaking the rules when he is a hired rule enforcer.
Yes, those terms apply to internet forums. I have had images nixed because of it.
I am still sad he got taken to the washers when he shoots some nice stuff.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Again, he is KNOTT a pro! Why are you guys applying professional standards to him?
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Dammit I'm not reading all these words. Did someone deck Jody or not?
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Jennie
Trad climber
Idaho Falls
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Topic Author's Reply - May 8, 2008 - 07:55pm PT
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This thread WAS intended as a joke leading into Jody winning the photo contest . I figured most would realize the spoof when they saw the thread title and click on it for humor's sake (re: the "El Cap Bridge" posts Jody made earlier this week). Jody is fine. I don't remember much about El Cap bridge, in Yosemite, but the chances of two serious photographers getting into a fight at a bridge in Grand Teton N.P., on any given day, are about one in thirty six billion. But to those who expressed concern about Jody's well being, thanks.
If Jody is contentious (see explanation) he's on the right forum (no explanation necessary).
Reserve caution when judging Jody or anyone on an online forum. Sometimes the harmony-gang come out as celebrated and those who express sincere conviction get disdain. Jody is a pleasant, humorous and well intentioned guy. Whenever a friend needs him, he's there and when someone at work or in the community needs assistance he's there to help.
From my observation, Jody disputive posts usually come after belligerent, over the top statements from others. Try civility first.....
Yes, Jody is a tall, darker haired guy. Now what's this issue with short red-haired people?
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Yeah, really. Redheads can be hot.
(especially when they're sporting Woz-autographed MacBook Pros)
Oops - wrong thread...
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Sebastopol, CA
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Thats a better topic Knott.
I really am glad Jody won and all.But look. A cop signs an affidavit saying his photo has never been publicly viewed, wins the contest, spouts off about it and gets punched. (Well I guess that never happened?) But anyhow, it's just funny to know that he'd already shot himself in the foot. The contest is a hoot with those terms, and then they wrote "Above the Fray" next to the photo, when clearly he's in the thick of it. Like him or knott, its pretty ironic and I got a good laugh when I realized this last night. I wasn't going to say anything, but L's comment set me off.
The thing that gets me isn't Jody at all, its how the industry is cutting corners, making it damn near impossible for a photographer to make a living. I've been e-mailing Jody from time to time regarding exactly these kinds of publishing ploys, and am a bit disappointed in him for even contributing, but you're right, he isn't a pro, and doesn't need the money, so good for him and congratulations. Really.
BTW, Knott, I have some stuff I need to get to you. Lets talk.
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bringmedeath
climber
la la land
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this thread blows... someone punch him anyways. Mt hardware blows too.
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Lost Arrow
Trad climber
The North Ridge of the San Fernando
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If one in olden days sucker punched a Samurai what would be their punishment?
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Shack
Big Wall climber
Reno NV
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When I read "El Cap Bridge", I just figured Tom showed up and
Jody was in his spot, so he punched him...
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Jerry - "affidavit"?
LOLOL!!
Dude, yer killing me! ;-)
Let's go climbing one of these daze - I can get that stuff from you then...
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Sebastopol, CA
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Rule #7: "...winner will be required to complete and return an affidavit of eligibility (declaration of compliance with these Official Rules)..."
Who's killin' who? Can't you read? LOL!
Yeah, lets hook up and climb.
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Prod
Social climber
Charlevoix, MI
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Hi Jennie,
As I stated I usually get right out of Jody threads as well as threads infected by Jody. That being said I do not have a lot of evidence to counter this statement by you.
“From my observation, Jody disputive (I think you mean disruptive) posts usually come after belligerent, over the top statements from others. Try civility first.....”
Except for the last post I saw from him, on side by side ethics topic.
“"Up is up.
Down is down."
Speaking of arrogant, self-righteous, self-centered egotists.”
This in my book was an unprovoked personal attack toward J.B. It seems to have come from Jody not liking J.B.’s post. Up until that point I do not believe there were any personal attacks anywhere on that thread. From someone who does not know him (me), it really makes him look like a stereotypical obnoxious brat. Actually in most threads I have seen him post on I think I must have seen the same thing as my previously stated perception indicates.
That is a very nice picture. Too bad his words are not as pleasing to most. It is nice to hear that in person to friends and family he is a good guy.
As to redheads? I have nothing against them. That was just how I pictured Jody.
Prod.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Idaho Falls
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Topic Author's Reply - May 9, 2008 - 10:32pm PT
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Prod,
J.B. and Jody are actually friends. Personally, I believe their online scuffle was just friends posturing against each other in humor. On ST, sometimes it's difficult to detect the mock arguments from the real.
Jody was irritated over the statement about Half Dome being "raped" (made by another poster), and got into the quarrel, earlier.
Being entitled to your own judgements, I think you might change your mind about Jody if you were acquainted with him beyond ST hissing matches.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Talk sh#t, get in a fight. It's how some of us became lifelong friends.
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Barbarian
climber
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She can be reached at 867-5309 (I got her number off the wall).
Sorry....couldn't resist. It was too easy.
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