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CF
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 8, 2008 - 09:21pm PT
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I was digging through some slides and found these of the rangers doing a search for the gun man that shot Kim Aufhauser in 1993. They went tent to tent clearing each tent.
Tuolumne Meadows was completely evacuated for weeks while they looked. They never did find the gunman and it cost thousands of $$$$$$$$$$
From Park Boy article
"Whew! And you wonder what inspires Park Boy's nightmares. Verifying Keith's tales would rob me of valuable toilet-swabbing time, but I can tell you that the last rumor is based on events of July 1993, when ranger Kim Aufhauser received a flesh wound in one of his legs during a still-unsolved episode that launched an ultimately fruitless manhunt. The search for his assailant involved 180 rangers and local cops and required clearing more than 1,000 visitors from a 53-square-mile area.
As Keith tells it, Aufhauser was an über-ranger, able to levitate up sheer cliffs, wingshoot mosquitoes with a pistol, and eat rocks. He was forever campaigning for rangers to be equipped with automatic weapons and FBI-style protective gear. Fearing that his pleas were falling on deaf ears, he allegedly decided to dramatize the rangers' plight by staging a criminal attack and wounding himself. After the incident, he left the Park Service, but among Yosemite worker bees, he'll live forever--fairly or not--as an eerie symbol of ranger "enthusiasm."
He now teaches PARK MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT, WEST VALLEY COLLEGE, Saratoga, CA.
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Carolyn C
Trad climber
the long, long trailer
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LOL! I remember that Dragnet-like episode (as a former Yos worker-bee). Crazy stuff.
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GDavis
Trad climber
SoCal
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Wait... it was him? BS! Tell me.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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1993?
Resume says ranger through '91 (?).
I remember hearing the news version, and then later hearing the back story.
Sounds a bit like Munchausen Syndrome.
Some people just HAVE to play hero.
That the guy did not face felony charges was just another example of the NPS double standard.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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OMG......My wife to be and I had just arrived back at 120 after finishing Crest Jewel, when a car load of gun pointing rangers pulled into our turn out to order the occupants of another car out onto the pavement.
It scared the sh#t out of us and the old hippy laying face down who picked up a couple hitchhikers on their way to enjoy a little RR away from the City.
The whole episode may be simply explained as, "it takes one to know one".
Berg Heil,
Charlie D.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Looks like he found a good niche for himself now. Some folks just aren't meant to be rangers.
Climbers screw up. Rangers screw up. It's sad when somebody else pays the price for it and it's fun to tell the stories but..
I ain't holding nothin' against any of the screw-ups forever cause I'm humble enough to fear my own screw-ups.
I tend to thin they just didn't have the hard evidence to prosecute at the time, maybe not the will either.
Peace
Karl
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Well yeah Karl, but did you read the resume?
Pretty grandiose huh?
Can somebody check and see if when he was supposedly riding elephants to the arctic that he wasn't actually hucking trash at the Stop-And-Puke in Visalia?
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Last I knew, he was living in Boulder Creek. I met he and his wife a few times, not a word about the incident.
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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there's a wee bit more about this earlier on this forum..
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J. Werlin
climber
Cedaredge
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From Kim's resume:
AWARDS AND OTHER STUFF
Along the way I have collected a couple of academic awards, some commendations, half a dozen work-related performance awards and a valor award for heroism.
You wonder if his chest is bruised from all the beating.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Well Mtnmun, did you really expect him to,.. uh,.. er,.. shoot his mouth off about it?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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You know, the more I consider this I am still troubled by Karl's ameliorating inclination to forgive this BS.
Sure, we've all made mistakes, but lets see a show of hands of all those who in one fell swoop have violated the rights of at least hundreds of people who were taking what was likely well earned recreational time, AND cost the american taxpayers over a half million dollars;
Hmmm.
That's what I thought!
This guy was park service! The same guys that hassle the phuck out of climbers!
But instead of being held to the highest standard, under the carpet it goes!
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Piton Ron wrote
"You know, the more I consider this I am still troubled by Karl's ameliorating inclination to forgive this BS. "
Dude, it's in the past. You can be upset, but what cha gonna do? How long you want your sins hung around your neck?
We don't even know the real story. I Imagine it's an ignoble one, and I don't imagine he's free from it. (does he still visit yosemite?)
but hey, it's got to hurt to shoot yourself so he's paid at least some price. He also lost his job, community, and housing in one fell swoop. That's far from scot-free.
As far as I can tell, the guy cares about his students, loves the outdoors, and is a better example of human being than many out there. So when do we let go?
I've found that, according to the golden rule, it's wiser for me to let go sooner than later.
Doesn't mean that if somebody actually knew some juicy bits of the story, they shouldn't share it. If they were upset about it, share that too.
But all I'm saying is that the human being behind the mistake appears to have found a better path for himself.
Peace
Karl
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SteveW
Trad climber
State of confusion
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It's lucky dick, the dick, cheney wasn't along on
that trip. He'd shot everyone, no questions asked. . .
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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I thought he only shoots lawyers.
(Like Karl said, there's SOME good in everyone.)
I'm glad that this guy cares about his students.
What does he teach??
Oh, "park management", well, nothing to worry about THERE!
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno, CA
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Actually, I don't believe he lost his job. He was simply transferred, if I recall correctly. You live in the park, Karl. You *have* to know that a Ranger would have to commit murder (mass, probably), with a ton of witnesses in order to lose his job. Otherwise, the Rangers who have had serious issues, in regards to rights violations, etc. would also have been fired, rather than simply transferred.
Gotta agree with Ron on this. It's a real shame he wasn't prosecuted, as well as claims filed civilly. This effected way too many people. It really goes a long ways towards showing the corruption in the park.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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I agree that it's important for the authorities to police themselves or be policed by a higher authority. They lose credibility for the good ones otherwise.
Bush and Cheney killed thousands, in my view. I'm waiting for them to get fired.
sadly the way of the world. Power is immune from the oppression visited on the powerless.
Still, bemoan the past with good reason, I think it too late to keep Kim in the dog-house. (or when do you supposed to let him out?) Maybe email him this thread and see if he has a comment.
Peace
Karl
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Might be interesting.
If he refuses responsibility and continues to pose as an authority on park management (taking yet more tax $?) then that doghouse could have some legs.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Just cause he screwed up back then doesn't mean he has no park management qualifications.
I wouldn't expect anyone to outright admit a crime but there are ways of talking around that,
Peace
karl
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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That only brings the debate back around to shooting lawyers.
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jiimmy
Boulder climber
san diego
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Karl,
Yoru always so full of crap
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SteveW
Trad climber
State of confusion
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I just realized how funny his last name is. . .
"aufhauser". . . say it a few times. . . .
awfuser officer. . . A stretch, but talk about
irony. . .
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Jiimmy wrote
"Karl,
Yoru always so full of crap"
I am! That's why I can forgive others, cause I understand the human condition.
But I'd feel worse if somebody who could spell his own name and one full sentence thought I was full of crap, because then I'd suspect I'm crappier than i already know I am.
Peace
karl
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MZiebell
Social climber
Prescott, AZ
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Just to keep the record straight (in fairness to Kim):
1) Kim left the NPS - he was a seasonal ranger who found useful (and better paying) work as an educator. He was not asked to leave.
2) There is not a shred of evidence to suggest that Kim's wounds were self-inflicted. Self-inflicted wounds are easy to identify. It is very difficult to mask those signs. This possibility was meticulously investigated by both NPS and FBI investigators who concluded unambiguously that Kim could not and did not inflict his own wounds.
Finally, on a personal note: having interacted with Kim one-on-one, he just doesn't seem like the kind of fellow who would shot himself to make a point. He was vociferous in pressuring the higher-ups at Yosemite to adhere to existing NPS policy that ALL rangers (not just permanent status, road patrol rangers) receive protective equipment and better training. Most of us who worked as NPS Rangers at the time very much appreciated his efforts.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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So MZ, what you're saying is that this is all a terrible tragedy?
A man wrongfully accused and pilloried?
He should call OJ.
Together I bet they'd be able to find the REAL shooter.
(or at least break into a room at the Palace Station.)
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CF
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 9, 2008 - 07:10pm PT
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I remember waking up early morning on 7/16/93 to the sound of helicopters coming in. By the time i got up all of the campground and lodge had been evacuated. People left all kinds of stuff in the campground as they had to leave quickly.
I was working as the emp housing manager so once everyone had been evacuated and the area sealed off i had to go to each housing area with the swat team. They would go to each tent and do a swat entrance and then once cleared i would lock the tent.
They set up the IC at the lodge and had all kinds of law enforcement from all agencies and lots of helicopters. I had to go through armed road blocks when I would go the valley and back. The searched my camper top to bottom each time while holding guns on you.
Now this all stemmed from a report of Kim getting shot by poachers by that pond on the right several miles down from the pass. He was shot at night in the leg. Rumors latter surfaced that he was practicing his quick draw from his back up piece on his ankle and shot himself. These are just rumors and i do not know what really happened.
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Gene
climber
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There seems to be a lot of "Ready! Fire! Aim!" on this topic.
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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MZ has a point, he does not seem to be the kind of chap who would shoot himself to make a point. Lets e-mail him and ask him to respond. West valley College must have a link to his e-mail.
e-mail sent!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Does Klaus strike you as "the kind of chap" to blow blue smoke up your butt?
By all means, bring him in on the talk.
I'd like to see that.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno, CA
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This oughta be good!
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
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one fine spring day in '92 a U.S. Border patrol officer discharged a .45 round into the tile floor of the small retail store in the Bianchi plant in Temecula, he was trying on holsters - scared the pee outa the admin staff sitting behind a sliding glass door...perfect little hole in the tile - we all heard it. Pretty funny.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Must've been poachers Ray.
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MZiebell
Social climber
Prescott, AZ
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Klaus,
I think you and I have been at this before on this forum.
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=83775
(I was "Good morning" back then...)
Anyway, nothing about this case has changed since then.
Edit: Wow! reading through that 2005 thread was fun if only to notice who's still with us. Ron, Nefarious, and Klaus... What happened to AngryT? Hey Klaus: you gonna call me a liar again?
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Apr 14, 2008 - 06:48pm PT
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A couple of hours ago my phone rang, it was Kim Aufauser responding to my e-mail. (see above) I was taken by surprise at first and felt like I was caught with my hand in the cookie jar.
Kim has become an urban legend at this point. He said he does not respond to the media or various web threads that have approached the topic of his mishap, but calls the person directly to give his assessment of the story.
As Kim related the story to me, he said he was on patrol in Tuolumne about 10 pm when he spotted a pedestrian where no pedestrian should have been. He pulled over to interview the person and without thinking put himself in a compromising position. As quick as you take a fall climbing, the suspect (male or female unknown) pulled a revolver and shot him, then fled into the forest.
Anyone who knows me, he said, knows I am incapable of shooting myself. He was in the hospital and had nothing further to do with the search. He was interviewed by the various investigating agencies and gave no one an indication that he shot himself.
He had left the park service two years prior to the incident to teach at West Valley College. Being a climber himself and mountain biker, hiker, etc he returned to Tuolumne for a summer job as a ranger the year he was shot. He wanted to spend the summer getting paid to be in the Sierra. Don’t we all?
Kim frequents J-Tree, the Sierra and various climbing venues. I am sure you may run into him one day. I was very impressed that he called and I must say, from meeting him in the past and this conversation, he is an upstanding guy.
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Apr 14, 2008 - 07:07pm PT
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I assumed that long stretch of road before the meadows where you would not expect someone to be walking.
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wildone
climber
Where you want to be
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Apr 14, 2008 - 07:18pm PT
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Must have been a revolver if they didn't collect a casing...;)
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno, CA
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Apr 14, 2008 - 07:37pm PT
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Maybe says a lot that he called. I don't know him personally, so I'll leave that judgment up to you guys.
I will say that what he stated above, that has been relayed to us is a bit different from what's on the actual report, however. Probably things that don't really matter, but still....
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Apr 14, 2008 - 07:45pm PT
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revolver was my word, he said gun.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno, CA
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Apr 14, 2008 - 08:28pm PT
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Ummmm... a little more like the reports states "he spotted a transient at the side of the road and stopped his patrol vehicle to talk with him. The transient immediately ran into the woods; as Aufhauser crossed the road in pursuit, he was shot three times - twice in the chest and once in the leg - by a small caliber weapon."
Could be jsut a mixup of words, but there *is* a difference between saying the 'the guy shot me on the road then ran into the woods, versus he ran into the woods, and as I pursued him into the woods he shot me.' Regardless, it's difference and the wording suggests two different scenarios.
Anyhow, just pointing it out. Stuff like that seems to matter to investigators and attorneys. Honestly, it doesn't effect me either way.
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Apr 15, 2008 - 12:34am PT
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I must confess, I took a bit of liberty in writing the story. I am not a professional investigative reporter. He said he put himself in a compromising position and was shot. He said it happened very fast.
He told me nothing about the actual shooting or what happened after it. I remembered the suspect ran into the woods. So there you have it.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Apr 15, 2008 - 01:36am PT
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Klaus, do you have some direct knowledge here that you aren't providing, aren't able to share publicly?
"but he DID shoot himself in the leg"
I checked the other thread and you seem really sure. From the very little I know you via the internet, you seem like a stand up guy.
Is there some facts or circumstances besides what's stated that makes you sure that this incident happens the way you say it did? Ping me on email if you can't say publicly and still want to get the story straight.
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Apr 15, 2008 - 12:48pm PT
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No one who wants to live would shoot themselves in the chest. Is that from the official report, Nafarius?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Apr 15, 2008 - 01:01pm PT
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Actually there's a guy who manufactures body armor who shoots himself in the chest with .44 magnums on a regular basis to demonstrate the efficacy of his product.
I just don't know about this.
There are elements that just don't pass the smell test, and while he may have responded by phone the guy, reputedly a climber, is certainly not very forthcoming HERE on perhaps the country's premier climbing forum.
Sure people sling a lot of crap around here, but it only tends to stick if you give it reason to.
And there was a big enough hubbub over this incident to justify a public airing.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Apr 15, 2008 - 01:17pm PT
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Ron wrote
"There are elements that just don't pass the smell test, and while he may have responded by phone the guy, reputedly a climber, is certainly not very forthcoming HERE on perhaps the country's premier climbing forum. "
Whether he is guilty or innocent, he would be savaged here and everybody knows it.
He did something by calling and that's more than many of us would have done
Peace
Karl
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Apr 15, 2008 - 01:24pm PT
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But I can assure you Karl, less by at least one, and there are few who doubt it.
Besides, being "savaged" by this crowd should be a point of honor. lol
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yo
climber
The Eye of the Snail
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Apr 15, 2008 - 01:32pm PT
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Kim is a girlz name.
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Standing Strong
Trad climber
the secret life of T*R
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Apr 15, 2008 - 02:48pm PT
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how come no one has addressed this?
" 'he was on patrol in Tuolumne about 10 pm when he spotted a pedestrian where no pedestrian should have been' "
sounds a little fishy to me. where exactly is it that no pedestrian should be?"
seriously. what the hell?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Apr 15, 2008 - 03:04pm PT
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It was stated before, but whose words ARE those?
If it was Aufhauser then I really DO smell a rat.
"A pedestrian where no pedestrian should be"?
C'MON!!!!!!!
That is absurd!
Never mind that it is a description of virtually ANY climber (LOL), we're talking YOSEMITE.
Its not a one block city park where they roll up the sidewalk after dark.
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Apr 15, 2008 - 03:04pm PT
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What was the source of the rumor that he shot himself? That is the one who should be questioned. Probabally some NPS brown noser trying to move up the ladder of corruption.
If I were a ranger and I see someone walking on the road at 10 PM several miles from the meadows, I would stop. Maybe they need a lift, or were lost.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Apr 15, 2008 - 05:20pm PT
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i think that language was from the 'incident report' which is, I'm guessing, like the NPS 'morning report' which almost always has inaccuracies in it's reporting of "climbing" accidents that my limited exposure to it has seen.
I'm going to try not to post to this thread any further as it seems to be mostly as Largo put it 'yarn', but would appreciate any corrections based in fact.
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Standing Strong
Trad climber
the secret life of T*R
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Apr 15, 2008 - 05:39pm PT
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how is the comment a "yarn" when it was said on the phone just yesterday? i'm fairly certain mtnmun is a reliable source.
seriously, i would be pissed if i got hassled while out on a night hike.
since when is it okay to hassle citizens when they're out and about, just because they're there?
i love nighttime activities like moonlight bouldering, night hiking, stargazing and nighttime hide and go seek cuz i'm still a kid like that. soooo....
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Crimpergirl
Social climber
On my way to Boulder
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Apr 15, 2008 - 05:52pm PT
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Maybe he doesn't care what anyone here thinks.
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Standing Strong
Trad climber
the secret life of T*R
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Apr 15, 2008 - 05:59pm PT
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maybe citizens deserve to hear why an LEO paid with our tax dollars would detain someone just because they were out at night
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Bart Fay
Social climber
Redlands, CA
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Apr 15, 2008 - 06:04pm PT
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SS>> seriously, i would be pissed if i got hassled while out on a night hike.
SS>> since when is it okay to hassle citizens when they're out and about, just because they're there?
CG >>Maybe he doesn't care what anyone here thinks.
Not that much evidence that everyone here thinks.
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Crimpergirl
Social climber
On my way to Boulder
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Apr 15, 2008 - 06:06pm PT
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You totally cracked me up Bart!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Apr 15, 2008 - 06:13pm PT
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As Mtnmun said, he didn't 'detain' or 'harass' a pedestrian. He simply pulled over to question them. Maybe he thought they were lost, needed a ride, etc..
Suppose it was an overdue or lost and dehydrated hiker and he drove right by. If you were that hiker you'd be cursing those 'stupid LEO's' for not stopping and offering some assistance.
I find it hard to believe a transient would be carrying a gun (maybe a pot-grower?) but I find it harder to believe this guy would shoot himself 3 times!!!
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Bart Fay
Social climber
Redlands, CA
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Apr 15, 2008 - 06:26pm PT
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Are far as three shots go.
Klaus:...snipped...He also shot at his body armor.
Two 22 shots to the BProof Vest. One to the leg.
Without knowing any details, seems like pretty good shooting in the dark.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Apr 15, 2008 - 08:41pm PT
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Mtmun again did not say whose words those are.
I believe that the scenario in question is whether after accidentally discharging a round into his leg the ranger then removed his uniform top and body armor to shoot twice and claim poacher as a cover up.
If this occurred anywhere near other people it seems highly unlikely he wouldn't be spotted after the first report.
What was the incident location?
Who EXACTLY said "where no pedestrian should be"??????
Mtmun?????
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Apr 15, 2008 - 09:19pm PT
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Kim told me, "he saw a pedestrian in a location where they are not normally found". 10 PM walking along a road? I don't know the location.
Thanks for clearing up the theory, Ron, I could not figure that one out. Is there any evidence this happened, is it in the official report, or, just heresay?
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Standing Strong
Trad climber
the secret life of T*R
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Apr 15, 2008 - 09:24pm PT
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does anybody know why tuolumne rangers shine flashlights across the meadows when it's only been dark for a couple hours? looking for people in "unusual places"?
and why they try to give you a ticket for overnight parking at 9:30pm?
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MZiebell
Social climber
Prescott, AZ
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Apr 15, 2008 - 11:22pm PT
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Mtnmun, thanks for taking the time to contact Kim personally about this and posting here.
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corniss chopper
Mountain climber
san jose, ca
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A case for Sherlock Holmes or maybe some 'Julia Roberts' type law student to concoct a 'Pelican Brief' that just happens to nail the truth.
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FTOR
Sport climber
CA
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a small detail of what i remember from the rumors going around at the time was that the downfall of aufhauser's story was the lack of corresponding bruising from the shots to his chest stopped by the vest. it's an outrage to this day that this was allowed to happen, literally thousands of vacations ruined to protect one person's vanity.
but really, so much water under the bridge... this is just a shameless plug for our route, dead ranger, named in honor of this folly.
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CF
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 1, 2009 - 10:48pm PT
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The incident happened at the shallow deer pond salt lick on the north side of the road half way between Tioga Pass and Tuolumne. It was at the west end where tourist stop all the time to look at the deer. I drove past there many times after the incident and saw the investigation team.
There were "rumors" about Kim playing with his gun and some locals saw some him acting strange that night at the pass. He was a very aggressive ranger and the incident cost a lot $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
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corniss chopper
Mountain climber
san jose, ca
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" The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there."
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Lokesh
Mountain climber
Big Bear California
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My understanding was that he carried a concealed 2nd gun, a .22 which is against regulations, it went off hitting him in the leg.....and then the cover up began.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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seems like Werner would have the inside scoop.
It says in Mr Aufhauser's resume that he recieved a Valor award for heroism, so would be interesting to see what that is about, might throw some light one way or another....
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Robb
Social climber
It's like FoCo in NoCo Daddy-O!
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OK, so who was there and saw it in person? Come on now don't be shy.So much speculation and so many experts and yet no eye witness acounts? You should all be examining your own lives for your own hypocricy! You ever f'ed up? Yah you all did back in the day and I was there and saw it all, yet I understand as polite people we don't air the dirty linen in public. Why don't we take a different take and rejoice in Kim's new life?
PS: Good on you Karl for understanding the relity of forgiveness!
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Lokesh
Mountain climber
Big Bear California
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Robb,
Truthfully I can say I've never fuc*ed up with the ramifications of this guy's.
And again, from the obvious fog....so many years later....the NPS never adequately fessed up.
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WBraun
climber
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I don't have any inside scoop on this. I have no clue what happened. Nor do I care. It's history. Gone, done over.
If people are still dwelling on it then your life must need other peoples bad experiences to enliven your own.
I knew Kim working with him on some Sar incidents. He was easy to get along with and a pleasure to work with.
He and Kerry Maxwell saved that base jumper's life at the base of Tissack. The dude was dying. I was right there. I had to tie the guy up because he trying to hit us with 2 broken arms because he was in extreme shock. The guys blood pressure was dropping fast.
They put the m.a.s.t suit on him and worked him to save him.
Saw Kim a few years later and I never brought up the past on him about any of that Tuolumne event, just stayed with the present.
Let it go, it's over and done .....
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steelhead
Social climber
san jose
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Sounds like you guys are a bunch of Haters! I bet you guys haven't done have the things he has. Even if he did do it how many of you would take a bullet for something you believe in? How many of you care about your fellow rangers so much you'd take a bullet for them? The government doesn't care if you make it home to your family at night. Sometimes it takes big things to make big things happen. I had him as a teacher in Medical First Responder. The guy is sharp as a knife and tougher than most college students at his middle age. I had the oppurtunity to be trained by one of the best hard but well worth it. Try meeting the guy before you put him down. Sure he's a little anal but only because most of the things he teaches are life and death situations. Don't forget we are the ones protecting the resource so you can come enjoy it and not worry about being robbed in the wilderness. We're the ones saving your ass when things don't go as planned. Peace.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Hey Kim,.. uh,.. er,.. steelhead,
thread's been dead for quite a while.
I guess better late than never, huh?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Don't forget we are the ones protecting the resource so you can come enjoy it and not worry about being robbed in the wilderness.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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This the problem with having someone like this molding the minds of future rangers.
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klaus
climber
Linda Mar
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Oct 14, 2016 - 03:52pm PT
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I remember this, caused me many inconvenience. Is this guy Kim Aufhauser still around? What a waste of our taxpayer money.
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klaus
climber
Linda Mar
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Oct 14, 2016 - 04:04pm PT
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snakefoot
climber
Nor Cal
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Oct 14, 2016 - 04:10pm PT
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^^^ ya, this was a bunch of BS! good riddance!
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Oct 14, 2016 - 05:18pm PT
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He shot himself and claimed something else?
Conspiracy duck likes him so STFU!
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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Jun 13, 2017 - 08:15pm PT
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Kerry Maxwell That's the dude who did Mt.Lyell every year? I saw him and another ranger at Minaret Vista in 1986.
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