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klk

Trad climber
cali
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 28, 2008 - 12:42am PT
personally i prefer a decent rye content:

bulleit or maybe hayden's.

but i'm not a snob.



Wes Allen

Boulder climber
KY
Mar 28, 2008 - 01:13am PT
I am pretty partial to Woodford or knob creek - not the super premium, but still very solid. And, I usually mix with that other *famous* kentucky brew - Ale 8. Had three tonight, actually!
Blitzo

Social climber
Earth
Mar 28, 2008 - 01:32am PT
Wild Turkey!
Mike from Phoenix

Trad climber
Phoenix, AZ
Mar 28, 2008 - 01:39am PT
I have had some super premium, expensive bourbons, but don't believe the hype. I keep going back to Maker's Mark.

Just b/c it's more expensive and trendy doesn't mean it tastes better.
Curt

Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
Mar 28, 2008 - 01:47am PT
And here I thought you were a man of refined taste...

Curt

klk

Trad climber
cali
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2008 - 01:51am PT
Hey, I never thought I'd bail on Rebel Yell for smartass small batch crap. But Bulleit rules. Not that I would turn down good singlemalt, especially cask. But I really like that smoky rye-corn thing.

And cheers for the Ale 8. And Pearl in the can while we're at it.
Landgolier

climber
the flatness
Mar 28, 2008 - 01:54am PT
Evan Williams on weeknights, Kickin' Chicken (Turkey 101) on weekends. Early Times (even though it's no longer technically bourbon) before noon.

I've had stuff rarer than hens' teeth and more expensive than a divorce, and I say the hell with all of that. Leave the snobbery for Scotch, red whiskey is for drinkin', not talkin' about drinkin'.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2008 - 01:58am PT
yeah, that was my opinion, but i've really come to love the stuff that's right on the rye/corn edge-- smokier, drier, not so sweet. and really cheap compared to even a mass-produced single-malt.

yum.
Mike from Phoenix

Trad climber
Phoenix, AZ
Mar 28, 2008 - 01:58am PT
Curt wrote: "And here I thought you were a man of refined taste..."

I am. I just don't let others tell me what tastes good, let alone a magazine or an ad campaign.

So then what are your favorites? I bet they are really expensive. Have fun spending your money!

Also FWIW, bourbon often costs less in Arizona than it does in Kentucky.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2008 - 02:08am PT
MikefromPhoenix-- That's precisely the beauty of decent bourbon. Bulleit is only 22 bux a bottle in my overpriced neighborhood. I shudder to imagine the cost of an equivalent single malt from the cask. God bless America. We still make a few decent products.

Actually, the best liquors I've had in the last two years were both homemade. An obstler from the Tirol last year (a colleague in Innsbruck shared a bottle that one of his students had given him) and some weird local stuff that I can't recall the name of from a friend just outside of Fontainebleau. If my dollars were still worth anything I'd go back just for the food and booze.
Raydog

Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
Mar 28, 2008 - 03:15am PT
this thread is an inspiration.

yeah, take THAT to the bank.

you all ROCK.

plain and simple.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Mar 28, 2008 - 03:19am PT
If drinking Piss got you high, people would develop a taste for it and different methods for influencing good tasting piss would evolve and Piss snobs would argue about the accents and flavor of various urine.

Coffee, Wine, Whiskey and Off-WidthAcquired tastes

Just sayin'

Peace

Karl
Raydog

Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
Mar 28, 2008 - 03:26am PT
RE:
" If drinking Piss got you high, people would develop a taste for it"

wow, I just checked into reality - fukkin' cool G.
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Mar 28, 2008 - 05:33am PT
DID you know that a real bourbon can't be altered in any way from distilling and then aging in oak barrels? That's why Jack Daniels is not a bourbon-- it's charcoal filtered.

Also, the expensive bourbons come from barrels stored at the top of the warehouses, where the extra heat brings out more flavor and color from the barrels.
divad

Trad climber
wmass
Mar 28, 2008 - 05:48am PT
"If drinking piss got you high, people would develop a taste for it."

I can imagine that this would be a popular toast: "I'll drink mine if you drink urine."
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Mar 28, 2008 - 06:00am PT
By the way, once upon a time, urine was used to clean teeth.

So if piss did get you high, you'd get whiter teeth at the same time.

OF course some would say that you'd have to be high to drink piss.
FinnMaCoul

Trad climber
Green Mountains, Vermont
Mar 28, 2008 - 08:12am PT
My favorite is definitely the one in front of me.
ha-ha

climber
location
Mar 28, 2008 - 08:15am PT
karl baba FTW

"This one is just delightful...just a hint of asparagus"
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Mar 28, 2008 - 10:20am PT
I wrote
"If drinking piss got you high, people would develop a taste for it."

Truth is stranger than fiction

from

http://tinyurl.com/24jez6

"Reindeer are a kind of deer found in the cold regions of Europe and North America (locally referred to as 'caribou'). They feed on grass and lichens, but also have a taste for the fly agaric toadstool, Amanita muscaria, because of its intoxicating and euphoric effects. Amanita muscaria is found in pine and birch woods of western North America, northern Europe, and Asia.

The Sami have a custom of feeding fly agaric to their deer and collecting the urine to drink. The reindeer's digestive system metabolises the more poisonous components of the toadstool, leaving urine with the hallucinogenic and psychotropic elements of the fungus intact. Drinking the urine gives a 'high' similar to taking LSD. Under the hallucinatory effects of the drink, the Sami thought their reindeer were flying through space, looking down on the world. The reindeers' liking for the toadstool hallucinogens are such that they, in turn, have been known to eat the snow on which intoxicated humans have urinated, creating a reciprocating cycle."

And

"Of course, Fly Agaric is not without side effects. As with other hallucinogens, most users experience nausea when taking large amounts. This negative experience can often be avoided by preparing your stomach with a day or two of light eating or even fasting.

Muscarine, another of the potent ingredients in Amanita, can also cause the unfortunate side effects of sweating, over-production of saliva, and muscle twitches. To avoid this unpleasantness, traditional Muscaria-using cultures had the tribal shaman ingest the drug, and then the other members of the group would drink the shaman's resulting urine, which is still highly psychotropic, but purified of many toxins."

That was from

http://www.salvia.ca/store/amanita-muscaria.html

I don't know what to say! That's how Santa gets his reindeer to fly!

Peace

Karl
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Mar 28, 2008 - 10:59am PT
Knob Creek, Makers Mark, but when I'm camping it really doesn't matter, just hand me the bottle.
crazyfingers

climber
CA
Mar 28, 2008 - 01:07pm PT
Maker's Mark for sure.
I had the chance to tour their facility a few years ago. Very nice place with a lot of polish and cleanliness. I will never forget the aroma in the aging barn. Hundreds of barrels of bourbon, all stacked in a hot, stuffy barn. It was like breathing bourbon. Awesome!

Also got to dunk my own bottle into the wax. Got in trouble for "slam dunking" (hitting the bottom of the wax pot), but left with a really unique souvenir. Lady next in line: "tell me how to dunk it right, I don't want to mess up like he did." LMFAO

The Jack Daniel's factory looks like an oil refinery. Filthy!
Dick_Lugar

Trad climber
Indiana
Mar 28, 2008 - 01:15pm PT
Not a Bourbon connoisseur, been dabbling in Scotch the past couple winters. Anybody try Talisker by chance? Man, that's some fine smokey, peaty, oaky scotch.
stevep

Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
Mar 28, 2008 - 01:28pm PT
Evan Williams Single Barrel is very good, and reasonably priced, at about $25/bottle.
I prefer it to any single or blended scotch that's in that price range.
Dick_Lugar

Trad climber
Indiana
Mar 28, 2008 - 02:09pm PT
Evan Williams? It's on the list to try. Talisker's a little hard on the debit card @ $50-$60/bottle. I've had luck with Glenfiddich 15-yr.(sp?) single malt and Balvenie 12-yr., single malt double wood. Mmmm..is it 5 pm yet?
couchmaster

climber
Mar 28, 2008 - 03:36pm PT
Love Bourbon.

I see nobody has yet professed a love for "Fighting Cock".

Hmmmm.

Personally, I have lots of the stuff, all kinds, but tend to W.L. Wellers for the price -performance ration.

Have Woodwords, Bookers, Hayden, Makers mark, Crown Royal, etc, etc etc IN the cabinet right next to those and the "Fighting Cock" bottle, but reach for the Wellers as it's as good, or better, but not the price of the others.

If I could still get I.W. Harper, I'd be doing that, but sadly, the bastards only peddle it in Japan and in duty free shops any more. Bastards.

I.W. Harper ruled. (more corn in the recipe, it was soooooo good)
Crickett

climber
Mar 28, 2008 - 03:50pm PT
If you want something truly sublime, maybe for a special occasion, pick up a bottle of "Pappy Van Winkle's Family Reserve 20 Years Old Bourbon".

It's expensive (roughly $100) but if you love bourbon you should make sure to have a dram of this stuff before you die.
hungry man

Trad climber
around
Mar 28, 2008 - 04:14pm PT
Ancient Age is the best kept secret in all of spirits.
quartziteflight

climber
Mar 28, 2008 - 04:27pm PT
bourbon is bourbon in my mind. I usually drink rot gut, old crow, evan williams, early time...occasionlly I'll drink wild turkey, but when you mess the dirty bird ya get the spurs!!!!!!
Gene

climber
Mar 28, 2008 - 06:00pm PT
Help a Bro out....

What's the difference between Bourbon and whiskey?

GM
murcy

climber
San Fran Cisco
Mar 28, 2008 - 06:38pm PT
bourbon is a variety of whiskey. wikipedia will tell you more.

bulleit is very nice. as is plain old jack daniels. (not technically bourbon, i know)

among ritzy labels i've really enjoyed another not-really-bourbon: anchor steam produces "old potrero" small-batch early-american whiskeys.

http://www.anchorbrewing.com/images/pdfs/Flyer_Whiskey18th.pdf

i asked about a tour (they're here in sf) but they don't do them. i want to distill my own sometime... anyone here try that?

Sparky

Trad climber
vagabon movin on
Apr 10, 2008 - 02:50am PT
Best bourbon? While I don't think there is any one best bourbon, if there were it wouldn't be Bulleit. It's a very good smooth bourbon but would be blown away by George T. Stagg, Elmer T. Lee, Jeffersons Reserve or about ten other bourbons I could name.Get out and try some, they're the best value in whisky right now. Any comparable single malt would easily set you back one hundred or more dollars.

-Spark
troutboy

Trad climber
Newark, DE
Apr 10, 2008 - 07:29am PT
What's the difference between Bourbon and whiskey?


There are many minor differences, but the biggie is that to be labeled bourbon, the spirit must be aged in UNUSED, charred, oak casks.

TS
AbeFrohman

Trad climber
new york, NY
Apr 10, 2008 - 09:51am PT
and originally bouron was only made in bourbon county, kentucky, no?
Brian in SLC

Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
Apr 10, 2008 - 11:25am PT
Buffalo Trace, Maker's Mark, Evan Williams single barrel, Woodford Reserve, Knob Creek.

Took a tour of Buffalo Trace when I was driving from the Red. Neat-o. They have something like a half a million barrels in rotation at any one time. Crazy. And, the super spendy stuff doesn't set in one place, but, they move it around depending on the season. Interesting process.

-Brian in SLC
Brian in SLC

Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
Apr 10, 2008 - 11:29am PT
i want to distill my own sometime... anyone here try that?

Was a bit of a science geek when I was a kid. Used brewer's yeast to ferment corn flakes (the breakfast cerial) and sugar. Then distilled it. Actually worked ok.

-Brian in SLC
sketchy

Trad climber
Vagrant
Apr 10, 2008 - 12:03pm PT
I like cheap as hell rot gut whiskey. Or if I'm feeling spendy early times. For scotch has any of you connoisseurs tried Glen Salen. $15 a bottle and damn good.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Apr 10, 2008 - 01:11pm PT
Back when I was still drinkin i was likeing that there Evan Williams 7 yr bourbon @ $10.80 a bottle. It really is some tasty stuff for the price. Surly Times gave me heaRT burn big time.. Knob and makers tasty stuff but pricy. Evan was some darn good sippin wiggy........... I know Evan Williams, Ezra brooks he was my friend, hang out with em all night long untill the bitter end.. wrote a cool song in Em that started out with that line..
Tomcat

Trad climber
Chatham N.H.
Apr 10, 2008 - 01:22pm PT
Hmmmmm...I've tried several of those top shelf bourbons.Have half a bottle of Bookers in the cabinet,but still really like my Jim Beam Black the best.I guess I am a tasteless slob.

I hate it when I order Bourbon and they bring it in a snifter.
AbeFrohman

Trad climber
new york, NY
Apr 10, 2008 - 01:34pm PT
you'd prefer a plastic baggie?
Tomcat

Trad climber
Chatham N.H.
Apr 10, 2008 - 01:38pm PT
No,I'd prefer a good quality shot glass filled to the rim,thank you.And a Coke on the side,unless you have Cherry Coke,in which case I'll have that.

I mentioned being a tasteless slob.
SteveW

Trad climber
State of confusion
Apr 10, 2008 - 02:48pm PT
There's a great pub in Denver, a British place called Pint's Pub.
They brew their own brews, and carry probably the largest variety of scotch whiskey anywhere but Scotland, so they say.
Oh, they serve drams from about $8 to $500 for some that's from
a distillery that no longer exists. I keep to the $8 to $15 stuff, the Glenfarclas is awesome.
For those Wild Turkey 101 (is there any other, now really?),
drinkers, what you do is fill your shot glass with it, then
turn the lights down low. Light it with a match, it burns nicely with that alcohol content. Bring it up, drink it, blow it out at the same time, then swallow. Voila! Singed mustache, for sure. (I only did that when I was younger & dumber, now I'm just old and dumb). . .
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Jan 10, 2015 - 05:37pm PT
premium bourbon?? really??? I'm guessing some Silicon Valley dipshit will lay down a Ben Franklin for "premium bourbon", but that guy is lame.

I ALWAYS get change from a $20 when I buy a 1.75-liter (plastic!!!11) bottle of Benchmark. That's the way to go.

[Apologies in advance to my friends in the Silicon Valley community. I validate your lifestyle and your choices as consumers.]
Peter Haan

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Jan 10, 2015 - 05:53pm PT
Well finally! We are back on topic!

Things winding down and all, I always thought a good name for a bourbon would be "Ole Offwidth".

Russ McLean (and I) would drink Old Overholt, saying repetitiously to each other "Ole Overcoat" squeezin' the last bit of funny outta there while marveling that a booze could still be decently good and still be affordable.

And yeah I agree with Karl B. that if piss would get you high, we all would have certainly developed a finely graded palette for it by now.
Salamanizer

Trad climber
The land of Fruits & Nuts!
Jan 10, 2015 - 07:35pm PT
Bookers is definitely one of the best. It's the only one that I know of off the top of my head that is un-cut from the barrel. Everything else is watered down, and that makes a difference.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Jan 10, 2015 - 08:50pm PT
I found bourbon after tasting alot of good scotch and realizing I liked the sweeter, less smoky ones, which is more or less what bourbon's like. I like Woodford's (drinking some right now) and Knob Creek. Bulliett is OK, but has a higher rye content I believe and so tastes a bit spicier. Been meaning to try some older brands like Elmer T. Lee but haven't seen much of it around. My folks asked what I wanted for Xmas and had no idea so I told them just to buy me some bourbon. They're not drinkers and ended up buying me a HUGE bottle of Knob Creek from Costco. So I'll be drinking that for a while.
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Jan 11, 2015 - 07:53am PT
"Bourbon needs to be produced in America and made from 51 percent corn, whisky does not," says Maker's Mark Master Distiller Greg Davis. Bourbon also needs to be stored in new, charred oak barrels whereas whiskey barrels do need to be oak but not new or charred. "Lastly, to be called bourbon, the liquid needs to be distilled to no more than 160 proof and entered into the barrel at 125." For other whiskies the liquid must be distilled to no more than 190 proof. David notes that this isn't just common practice — "it's actual bourbon law."

Bourbon regulations are strict because in the 1800's distillers spent a lot of time adulterating, diluting, and tampering with their whiskies. "Finally, they set some standards with the Bottle in Bond Act of 1897" says Davis. Essentially, the act requires the spirit to be the product of one distillation season and one distiller at one distillery. "It must be bottled and stored in bonded warehouses under the U.S. government supervision for no less than 4 years. The act has made the U.S. the guarantor of the whiskey's authenticity and therefore bourbon's."


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kpinwalla2

Social climber
WA
Jan 11, 2015 - 08:14am PT
srbphoto - get thyself over to Jimgermanbar in Waitsburg and sample some of the 10 year Old Rip Van Winkle. Jim says he prefers it to Pappy 23, but I'm not so sure.... I had some there last night. The rock climbing in the Blue Mtns. may not be world class, but Jim's cocktail skills certainly are.
couchmaster

climber
Jan 11, 2015 - 08:21am PT


SBR has it. Lots of good choices upthread. I like them all. 2 points to add to the thread:

1st) The barrels must be new as said. After they use them once, many are sold to the Scottsmen to make Scotch. They clearly have more financial control and smarts than us yanks. Much like using everything including the squeal out of a pig, they keep using the barrels over and over.

2nd) Bourbon County was named to show gratitude and respect for the kindness of the Bourbon royals of France for the assist during the revolutionary war. A distinctive corn Whiskey was an early product of the county.

stormeh

climber
Jan 11, 2015 - 09:38am PT
I am a bit of a whiskey (especially Bourbon) snob and have a few things to contribute to this thread:

* I've seen reference that Jack Daniel's is not Bourbon. This is not true. Jack Daniel's meets the legal requirements to be called Bourbon but they have elected to use a different term on their label, Tennessee Whiskey. Tennessee Whiskey recently became a legal term and as was mentioned earlier in the thread, now refers to the Charcoal Filtration process than Jack Daniel's uses. It also must be produced in Tennessee. Another notable (and delicious) Tennessee Whiskey is George Dickel.

* Bourbon can be produced anywhere in the US, not just in Kentucky or Bourbon County.

* Try Bourbons made by Four Roses, they are delicious. Especially the Small Batch and Single Barrel, but the Yellow Label is good (and cheap, $18 by me) too. Buffalo Trace and Elijah Craig 12 Year are also great Bourbons for relatively cheap.

* Bookers was mentioned as the only available "barrel proof" Bourbon but there are quite a few on the market now, some tipping the scales at 140+ proof. Almost all whiskey is proofed down with water to a more drinkable strength, but you won't get as much flavor (as well as burn) on lower proof offerings. Other good barrel proofers now readily available are Stagg Jr, EH Taylor Barrel Strength, Four Roses Barrel Select, and Elijah Craig Barrel Proof.

Drink your whiskey!
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Jan 11, 2015 - 09:44am PT
Not while I am drinking.
Evel

Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
Jan 11, 2015 - 09:50am PT
I like Four Roses. Blantons is very good as well but somewhat pricy. Recently had a 10, 12, and 15 year old Pappy Van Winkle. Very Good!
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 11, 2015 - 09:53am PT
Rye-
Michters
High West (Utah)
Templeton
Old Overholt
Wild Turkey
Rittenhouse
Whistle Pig
Four Roses
George Dickel

Salamanizer

Trad climber
The land of Fruits & Nuts!
Jan 11, 2015 - 10:36am PT
* Bookers was mentioned as the only available "barrel proof" Bourbon but there are quite a few on the market now, some tipping the scales at 140+ proof. Almost all whiskey is proofed down with water to a more drinkable strength, but you won't get as much flavor (as well as burn) on lower proof offerings. Other good barrel proofers now readily available are Stagg Jr, EH Taylor Barrel Strength, Four Roses Barrel Select, and Elijah Craig Barrel Proof.


Not the only, just the only one I could think of off the top of my head. But now that you mention it, I've had the EH Taylor. It was good, but nothing special. Certainly not worth the 70 or so dollars a bottle it costs. Four Roses is consistently mediocre, too many spices and other crap that doesn't belong in a Bourbon IMO. I'll have to try out the other two you mention. As long as they're well under 100 bucks a bottle.
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 11, 2015 - 10:54am PT
Sal,
Check out Noah's Mill or Rowan's Creek. Both affordable and not overdone.
Johnny K.

climber
Jan 11, 2015 - 11:32am PT
Bulleit...with a dash of snowflake.<3
Roger Breedlove

climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
Jan 11, 2015 - 12:32pm PT
A few years ago, I starting switching from Scotch to bourbon. Partly it was just digging out of my own ruts, partly because my favorite Scotches were getting too expensive, and partly because bourbon is ‘Merican.

One of the most interesting things about whiskey, whether Scotch, bourbon, rye, or Irish, is that most are owned by only a few corporations, and most sell a series of labels, covering the palates of their customers. This says that whiskey can be made many different ways and among the well-made whiskeys there are many styles and price points—bad whiskey is bad whiskey, but you can always mix it with something sweet.

The 51% corn mash needed to make bourbon gives bourbon its basic taste. I call this “tractor pull.” Some folks think that this is the alcohol content, but there are very smooth 100 proof whiskeys with great taste but low “tractor pull” and there are 80 proof bourbons with great taste with high “tractor pull” I like to sip the low “tractor pull” whiskeys but I think that high “tractor pull” whiskeys do better in a Manhattan where the bourbon competes with the vermouth and the bitters. Bullet is a high “tractor pull” whiskey and Basil Hayden is a low “tractor pull’ whiskey. Bullet is made on contract by Four Roses, a great whiskey with a low rye mash bill’; Basil Hayden is a high rye mash bill made by the same company that makes Booker’s, Baker’s and Knob Creek.
At Christmas, my daughter purchased a bottle of Wathens single barrel whiskey for about $37. Nice sipping and mixing

I visited a liquor store in Brooklyn NY and asked for a recommendation. I now have a great bottle of Johnny Drum, single barrel, ($37). I haven’t figured out if there is a specific distillery or if this is contract whiskey. Nothing wrong with contract whiskey: Bullet is made by Four Roses which is owned the Japanese firm Kirin.

Interestingly he only pointed to a few of the well know whiskeys and only one costing more than $40, Blanton’s, from the same company that makes Buffalo Trace.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jan 11, 2015 - 01:04pm PT
J W Dant, and the two Dickels,




Over Thanksgiving my sisters kid now a man made a drink with Rye and a 100 proof ??

The liqucure, looked clear and was almost a dead ringer in taste to Angostonga Bitters??



If the drink fits wear it but of course many of the very best Hooches are made at home.

My Wife's Grandfather distilled several varieties of fruit. The best being a plum and also a cherry. That the crafty old Austrian batched, aged and,saved in a crypt. more than 700 bottles. The keys to the crypt doors he was going to leave to his grandson in his will, and then never had one! so It came to my wife (long routes).


It was a real privalige to help do the taste tests with the old man...

Not why I married into the family, but it was not a curse, to me.

SAlute' JHA? S




http://www.gq.com/life/food/201311/bourbon-whiskey-family-tree
long routes
Their are a number of sisters the Greedyist pack of vultures that have ever been seen . The Keys to the Crypt were overlooked While suplanting the will. The Karma of this went on as the crypt held an older very telling will . And 786 counted + bottles of various schnapps, Brandys, wines, ciders, & hooches.

EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Jan 11, 2015 - 02:08pm PT
Check out Noah's Mill or Rowan's Creek. Both affordable and not overdone.

That's why I drink Old Forester. Great price. I've tried other, more expensive bourbons. Nothing top shelf, but "better" bourbons. I always go back to Old Forester.
couchmaster

climber
Jan 11, 2015 - 06:34pm PT
Salmonizer said:
"Four Roses is consistently mediocre, too many spices and other crap that doesn't belong in a Bourbon"

Agreed, was shocked at how much better Jack Daniels Devils Cut (new product I just tried) was stacked right next to 4 Roses. Will never buy 4 roses again.
Evel

Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
Jan 11, 2015 - 06:39pm PT
Jack Daniels Devils Cut


The Devils Cut is Jim Beam.
Bill

climber
Chalfant Valley
Jan 11, 2015 - 06:56pm PT
Bulleit, and a lot of other "hand-crafted," "small-batch" and "artisanal" bourbons are actually mass produced by MGP Ingredients in Indiana. Which is not to say that they aren't fine whisky, but it's mostly marketing.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/28/your-craft-whiskey-is-probably-from-a-factory-distillery-in-indiana.html

Evan Williams has always done the job just fine for me.
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Jan 14, 2015 - 07:55am PT
i like that whiskey, uh
i can't remember the name of it,
it doesn't matter you'll recognize the one.

you know.
it like life is in one bottle
and death in a jar next to it.
and this special blend,
of whiskey.
it cross contaminates the two
exclusively sanitized domains.
and as a little bit of
death mixes with your life,
and my life blood
trickles thru death's folds,
all spiritual thresholds are
eliminated and at that
moment, zero exceeds infinity.

you ever had that batch? anyone.
couchmaster

climber
Jan 14, 2015 - 08:02am PT
Evan said:
"The Devils Cut is Jim Beam."

DOHHH!!!! Correct. Perhaps I was drinking too much however I suspect I just forgot and confused the 2 companies. LOL

Thanks
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jan 14, 2015 - 04:39pm PT
from a climber friendly region The Gunks!VThe best water makes the best Hooche. . .
as I have left the zone that
these folks http://tuthilltown.com/home call home I can not say any more .It is in the Gunks A world that has given rise
to some fine climbing on white cliffs
A nose for trouble! so the bet is the booze costs double?


KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 14, 2015 - 04:48pm PT
Tuiliytown Spirits outta NY. They also do a single malt. Tasty but spendy.....for the entire line up.
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Jan 15, 2015 - 06:08am PT
damn the distilled condition;
my kids are snug warm in their bed,
dreamin' freely to infinity and back;

and i'm outside 'neath the cold moon,
trippin and stumblin' over an 1/8 inch of now.

tears in my eyes.
ClimberDave

Trad climber
The LBC, CA
Jan 15, 2015 - 08:44am PT
I do enjoy some good bourbon, most of my friends are scotch drinkers, after trying a variety I have come to the conclusion that I really dont enjoy scotch.

Always wanted to try some of the Hudson whiskys, but the bottles are so small, looks like you'd get 2 good doubles and it would be gone!! LOL

My flask in the back country is usually filled with Buffalo Trace, or Bullit (whichever is on hand) and its also my go to if im at home making a mixed drink, when I don't have any rye on hand. (Old Fashioneds, Manhattans or Hot Toddys)

For sipping at home, I love me some Willet Pot Still, or Blantons, either neat or with a single small cube.
Just picked up a bottle of 4 Roses Single Barrel and found it to be quite tasty as well.
Bookers is good too but at 129 proof (or whatever it is) I need to watch myself. Another good hi octane selection is Knob Creek Single Barrel Reserve, it comes in at 120 proof but goes down pretty easily.
skitch

climber
East of Heaven
Jan 25, 2015 - 04:50pm PT
So I've started feeling full/bloated/fat after drinking a beer or 3, so I figured I'd pick up some bourbon. In my entire life I think I've had 1 whiskey & 7, and maybe a shot of whiskey in high school.

I definately do not have a taste for whiskey/bourbon. . .

They had Bulleit Bourbon on sale at Manor Market for $26, so I grabbed a bottle. I just poured an ounce or so with an ice cube and I'm not so sure that I like bourbon!

How long does it take to get a taste for it? Will I become an old dirty drunk in short order?
TYeary

Social climber
State of decay
Jan 25, 2015 - 05:09pm PT
Been enjoying this lately. Not Top Shelf, but top shelf in value for sure.
TY
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