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Anastasia
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 6, 2008 - 11:30pm PT
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Tell a story about the most dangerous driver you ever had the pleasure of sitting next to...
(I knew of a person who drove like a NASCAR driver in his VW van, (details later.) Who was yours?)
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survival
Big Wall climber
arlington, va
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My son...
Thought he was gonna kill me driving around a parking lot!
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Skip Guerin- no wait, he was way scary but an excellent driver.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
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Skip Guerin or Jon Freriks
Skip for pure speed and side slipping excitement in any weather.
Freriks for exclusively using the E Brake in his VW Squareback for like two years, since he had ZERO real brakes. Those rides down from Humber Park sure were something.
Honorable mention: Mark Wilford. (statute of limitations keeps me from giving more info)
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WBraun
climber
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Skip Guerin he was good but not really dangerous in the sense.
But Dale Bard, fuk!!
He'd pass around blind turns all the time because he had no fuking patience. He was plain fuking nuts as a driver sometimes.
Once he was so bad I made him pull over and said your not driving anymore and took his own car from him and I drove.
Your hair would stand on end and your knuckles would turn white.
There were guys in Camp that wouldn't get in the car with him driving anymore.
He destroyed the transmission of that rental car him and Bachar used to bring those Ad executives from New York from fresno airport to the Valley one day.
Those guys were so scared sh'it-less they wanted to pay me double so Dale would drive them anymore, hahahaha
I ended up driving them.
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Anastasia
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 7, 2008 - 12:44am PT
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DMT, you can write.
AF
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G_Gnome
Trad climber
In the mountains... somewhere...
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Oh god, I am bound to be the brunt of some stories in this thread. Good thing Waugh doesn't do the interweb or we would be here all night. I have almost killed that man more times than any man deserves.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Well, it's sad to remember several friends who I drove and climbed with, and who died in MVAs. Not always their responsibility.
My friend Eric was a rather exciting person to drive with. We once drove to Leavenworth in his parents' Valiant. On the highway east of Everett he passed on a double solid line, and got pulled over. Pretty much normal - Eric sometimes passed on blind curves on the Squamish highway. While the cop was getting organized, Eric urgently asked to borrow my glasses. I asked why, and he said his license required that he have glasses - which he'd forgotten or lost or something. At least he had a license.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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nearly clipped a lot of slow drivers, but I've mellowed.
recently, probably the ubergoober is the worst offender. impatient while driving like no one's business.
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mcreel
climber
Barcelona, Spain
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Italian truckers, when they're lost.
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TrundleBum
Trad climber
Las Vegas
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Either:
Mark Grant in his Peugeot wagon taking my up to his cabin in the Santa Cruz mnts, or
A Roman taxi driver instructed we were getting late for a flight, or
the Turkish 'taksi' driver I offered 2 packs of Marlboro's if he could catch the 'Stanbul bound bus I, like a moron stepped off of for to long, at a fruit stand.
Good crashes?
(as opposed to nasty, violent, not fun outcome kind)
Well here's one:
I was 18, had a '68 VW bus.
I woke on a winter Sunday morn,
drove to Pinkham Notch from N.Conway and made the approach to Huntington's.
A guy named Jim Tierny and I climbed North gully in very 'Scottish' conditions.
Back all the way around left to the escape hatch,
descend,...
back to 'Horse Feather's in N.Conway,
Dinner, a few brews with Kurt Winkler and his gal,
back to Jim's place in Jackson,
a few beers, a few puffs.
Jim suggested (strongly) that I stay.
It was Sunday night and I had to work in Boston the next morn.
Nope, 18, full of piss and vinegar...
I set out.
Into a decently cranking blizzard.
I made it to Portsmouth N.H,
before my head was bobbing.
Just before the entrance onto rt #95 (luckily)
I fell asleep at the wheel.
Just like the plane crashing, skimming along the Andean mountain glacier in the movie 'survive' my bus was tobbogan'ing between trees and light posts when I realized it was no longer a dream.
I instinctively started turning the wheel left to get back to the road
(which I best bet, guessed to be in that direction)
I hit a plowed driveway with the wheels cocked for a left turn,
and spun out into the south bound lane of rt #16.
The motor was flooded and stalled, would not start.
It was blowing stink and snowing to 'beat the band'.
I am now outside the bus, in my down booties, amped,
trying to push it back up into the drive I skated out of,
with oncoming 18 wheeler's honking and barely making it past me and the bus, as they swerve slightly to avoid me.
I am not winning the game here, and out comes the home owner in skimpy, living room, relax type, attire.
He's no help just complaining about a bad back, on disability, frick'n doctors etc etc... arrgh.
So I muster it all and push the van into the driveway, stuff my mnt boot under the front tire as a chock long enough to get the E-brake engaged... phew... alive
jump to:
The bus has been towed to a yard.
I am in the Portsmouth cop shop.
No charges, no injuries, no arrests, all is good.
Good except where am I to crash?
I aint going for the 'book me and give me a cell' gig,
I have a bus full of ice climbing and winter camping gear.
I catch a ride to the tow yard with some cops.
The whole way the tell me that I am gunna wind up back at the station.
Nope.
We get to the yard, there's my bus behind an 8' chain link with barbed wire topping it.
The cops laugh and pronounce that I am 'out of luck'.
Nope!
I ask them:
"you are the cops, I am the vehicle owner,
if I can get too that vehicle, can I spend the night in it?
Laugh they did, but acquiesce as well.
I hopped the fence and in a flash was in the van 'setting up'.
I awoke the next morning,
(it was about 10 - 12 degrees that night)
and walked in through the back door of the garage.
The four or so guys hanging out, starting their day, freaked!
Not only did they not know there was a vagrant crashed in their yard,
these N.H rednecks could not perceive how anyone could survive sleeping in a vehicle when it was 12 degrees.
I got a hot cup of Jo'
Fig'd the flooded carb,
called my boss and told'm "I'd be late"
Made work by 11 am.
No worries, half the crew was at least 1/2 hr late due to the storm/ road conditions.
Got off work at 3:30
went home and did a few bings and...
slept from 4:30 till I awoke to go to work Tuesday morn'n.
By Wednesday I was on the phone to Tierny concocting next week's assault.
Ah the vigor (and stupidity) of youth!
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TrundleBum
Trad climber
Las Vegas
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Actually...
Come to think of it...
Perhaps the scariest ride I ever had was when I was about 15.
I was hitch hiking from N.Conway N.H back to Boston after a winter back ski/pack trip.
There was a large storm during the week and now it was clear and warming.
The roads were covered with melt water and tongues of frozen melt water crossing the road.
Where the road was bare it was covered with salt and sand.
The driver took the back roads, off of rt #16,
the driver drove psycho,
the driver had Lou Reed, 'Sweet jane' looping on an 8 track plyr.
To this day, when I here 'Sweet jane'...
I think of that nut case, N.H redneck,
driving 'hell bent for collection',
in a shitbox stationwagon,
and me and my partner...
Shit'n twinkies as he casually drifted through the back road turns.
cars are to well engineered these days.
It is hard to find a driver that can safely, rationally press the performance of a modern car with out maxing the traffic conditions.
Doing 60 mph on a back road,
in the snow, slush, sand and salt,
in a piece of crap, rotted out, Mercury stationwagon,
bald retreaded tires, no shocks and an 8 track blazing 'Lou Reed'
Now that's bad arse 'Dukes O Hazard' type shiite there ;)
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Delhi Dog
Trad climber
Good Question...
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Too numerous to mention...
If you've been to this part of the world I'm sure you could back me up there.
Brazilians I thought were bad, but compared to Indian drivers...shoot, their babes-in-the-woods.
I’ve always wondered why they even put lines on the road. My theory is that it gives the drivers something to follow, never mind the oncoming car which is also following that same line, someone is bound to move over (just never happens to be the car I’m in).
Lights are for flashing, horns are for…honking, whenever and wherever the need arises, which is constantly.
The trick I’ve discovered is not to make eye contact with the other driver if your driving. You see, if you “don’t see them" well, they don’t exist and therefore you can pretty much get away with anything. This is the SOP for all drivers (at least here in the city).
Passing is a real test of one’s belief in karma or fate- whichever you choose because at some point you just have to hand it all over to karma, fate, or whatever and accept that if its happens then
1) either be able to bail quickly or
2) hope survival is a possibility.
Pakistanis are a serious contender for 2nd.
For pure speed and no brains...I’ve got to give it to the adolescent rich male teenagers of the Emirates in their BMW's, Mercedes, Ferraris . Crazy sons of b#$ches!
I’ve been passed on the shoulder (mind you I was in the fast lane going 85 mph) and from NOWHERE comes a Beemer shooting by me, must have been doing 150 easy!
Yep, too numerous to mention. I get back to the states and I have to say it pretty darn boring…
Cheers,
DD
ps Oh the motorcycles…ah skip it
the family wagon
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survival
Big Wall climber
arlington, va
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Saudi drivers #1
Egyptian Drivers #2
Philipino #3
China #4
No wonder I have so much gray....
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deuce4
Big Wall climber
the Southwest
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I drove plenty with Skip, when I was living at 1020 9th Street. Never felt too gripped.
I recall being pretty gripped one day with the Fish as he sped down the steep road into Oakhurst coming back from a trip to Fresno (where we sat though a showing of CHUD: Canibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers, possibly the worst movie I have ever seen).
His VW bus's tires were bald, I think he got up to about 100 mph, the bus shuddering though every turn, on the verge of tipping. Can't believe the old tires stood up to the careening.
I reckoned we were dust for sure.
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SteveW
Trad climber
Denver, CO
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My old buddie Howie Doyle. . .RIP, though from a heart attack,
not driving. But his lead foot was legendary. I wasn't along
for his land speed record from DC to Seneca Rocks in a Porsche,
but I took many rides with him in his old Nascar chebby station wagon. god that man was a speed demon. On our trip to Eldo in
'75 he got over $100 in tickets in 15 minutes on I-70. Thank god they didn't have good computers then or we'd been in jail for sure. god I miss him. . .
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TradIsGood
Chalkless climber
the Gunks end of the country
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DMT - classic.
I remember when driving was safe and climbing was dangerous.
Embellished a little for our reading pleasure?
Just guessing, no.
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swill
Social climber
Colorado
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Wilford
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justthemaid
climber
Los Angeles
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1st place:
I used to work with a guy named Hakkim. We had to drive several hundred pounds of lumber out to San Bernadino. He ties the entire load on top of his Rabbit (yup- one of those tiny cars from the 80's) with some scetchy-looking rope then drives at breakneck speed the whole way. Car was totally top heavy, and hard to steer. The load kept shifting around and I expected the whole load to cut loose on the freeway any second. Never occured to Hak to slow down or re-tie the load.
2nd place: Local climber Medusa
Who my friends would point the finger at: ...
Well, that would be ME. I've been involved 14 collisions. A certain irascible Southerner will pipe in any second here about my "navigation skills".
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Talk about bad timing.
The only thing that might die riding with Justthemaid is the passenger's sanity.
I used to be the worst driver I ever rode with until I stopped buying sports cars. Only really wrecked two (sports cars that is). Of course the 1968 chevy wagon that I got airborne once did not qualify as a sports car, although it DID peg the speedometer at 120.
Only injury I ever got driving was when some guy tried to pass my 62 beetle while I was turning left- only he was in a one ton truck. the pic is not digital, but it's hard to see how anyone got out alive, since the car is almost totally crushed from the driver's side. to the middle of the car.
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TrundleBum
Trad climber
Las Vegas
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Where's Jimmy Dunn ?
I recall hearing years ago, when he tried to join the establishment and make his million, he was working in construction of fast food places and making a bundle.
I heard there were a few Porsches that didn't make it through their expected lifespan.
I would love to hear some of those stories ;)
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deuce4
Big Wall climber
the Southwest
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I had a few rides in Jimmy's Porsche. Once while I was driving, averaged 120mph for a full hour in the middle of the night on the rez heading to Flagstaff. Another time we took turns shooting at signs with his semi automatic weapons out the window, as we ripped around hairpin turns somewhere in Colorado. Almost blew my head off with one of his hair trigger semi-autos as I was climbing back in through the window.
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Anastasia
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 7, 2008 - 08:33pm PT
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I don't know who is actually the worst for me...
I remember one very good friend who was driving holding the steering wheel with his knee, talking on the cell, putting hot sauce on his taco while smoking and messing with the radio on a very narrow road.
The other was Greg Evens who had put a Porsche engine in his VW Van and drove it like a nut through dirt mountain roads, skidding sideways through the turns.
All the time during the skids he would hang his head out the window laughing like a maniac, bragging in a proud voice...
"Doesn't she have power! Man! She is a beauty!"
I would sit in his passenger seat nodding, laughing and gripping the door like I was on a roller coaster.
Sick thing is I liked it.
The other is my cousin... I have images of him wearing his priestly black robes, going full speed on his scooter and since it didn't have breaks... He would jump off, while lifting it off the ground to take a second to talk to you.
All you could see was black robes swirling, beard tossing to the side, while the scooter was revving in the air along with his big voice talking over it.
I never could get use to that. I had a habit of flagging him down just to see him do his trick.
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The last person I am thinking... Though he "does not qualify as "dangerous," -he is just awe inspiring skilled.-
One reason for this is that Niels IS a race car driver.
In Greece Niels fast reflexes saved us from several accidents. It was such beautiful driving that I must call it art. I remember Kit and I exchanging looks after one close call in such admiration for it really was "jaw dropping" impressive.
Also...
Niels does have the most beautiful and powerful car I have ever been in. I discovered that G forces tickle in that car. He so deserves that car...
If I owned that much power I would kill myself.
AF
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swill
Social climber
Colorado
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Jimmy is something. Great story John. I had a Old English sheepdog years ago who became real close to Jim's dog "Billy" the Pit Bull. Anyhow Old English sheepdogs have hair not fur so they don't shed. One afternoon we took my car and Jimmy's Jeep up to Turkey rock and the sheepdog insisted on going with Jimmy, Maureen, and "Billy". So I pull into the the lot and Jimmy is all aggravated and pacing around... I'm scared. The Sheepdog is off in the woods somewhere. As it turns out the dog got so flipped out she shed half her hair off on the back seat on the drive up. He did not let me forget that for sometime.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Not worth starting a new thread, so I'll send this one off on a tangent.
Supposedly, Sacramento has the worst drivers in the U.S.
http://fox40.com/2017/06/27/does-sacramento-have-the-worst-drivers-in-the-country/
I just drove through Sacramento again, and I'm not seeing it. They're not even the worst on The West Coast.
Mid-afternoon, right through the middle of town on The 5, everyone is moving at speed. I'm tailgating the guy ahead of me, he's tailgating the guy in front of him, and someone's right on my ass, all at 80+mph. As far as the eye can see. Just hop on the train, and ride it. Then there were others zipping around, changing lanes all over the place like a bunch of goddamn NASCAR racers. It was as if they were all saying "Welcome Home, Chaz". I was right in my comfort zone. These are my people.
After a few weeks in goody-two-shoes Washington, where people are scared to death to drive the speed limit, or even close to it, and look at me like I'm Evel Knievel if I drive around someone waiting to turn left, honk my horn, or God forbid tailgate someone, and slow-motion Oregon, driving among the spirited folks of Sacramento was like a big breath of fresh air.
No wrecks - and no cops. I think the former may have something to do with the latter.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Chaz, you know damn well ARCADIA takes the cup, no ifs, ands, or buts. I was at the mall there the other day and could not believe this retard in his McLaren. He shoulda been driving a golf cart. :-/
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Anywhere I like
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I remember riding with a friend of mine when I was twelve he had to be like 17. Nissan Maxima doing 120 on the straight away with a bump that would give you air if you hit it at over a hundred. Truck coming out the direction us in the air at 120 flying past it. I'll never forget the look on that drivers face.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Here's a dangerous Washington driver observation, one in a long series:
I'm driving south on State Highway 20, Whidbey Island. Speed limit 55. The truck in front of me suddenly stops right in his lane - even though there's a quarter-mile long paved pullout designed to allow slow traffic to get out of everyone's way right next to him he could have easily parked in. He then turns on his emergency flashing signals, in the middle of the road, apparently intending to stop traffic on the State Highway.
Dude had spotted a deer.
The deer was 100' off the side of the road, with its face buried in the grass eating. I know that if a deer runs across a road this time of year, there may be a fawn or two following, and it's wise to slow down and look out. I saw someone clip one just the day before. I'm hip. But this one was just busy eating.
I saw what was going on, just a deer eating, so I used the slow traffic turnout to drive around both the deer and the Bozo trying to hold up traffic.
At that point, Bozo stepped on the gas, and chased me for a couple miles down the hwy and a block down Main Street, all the way to the Brewery. I was half hoping he would get out of his truck, so I could have bought him a beer and discussed his bone-headed decisions with him. But no luck, he called off the chase when I turned into the Brewery. I'm guessing he saw my California license plate, which was like waving a red cape in front of a bull to him.
If you think about it for even a second, you'd come to the conclusion that a truck stopped on a 55mph highway is far more dangerous than a deer munching on grass off the side of the road, but Washington Bozo couldn't trouble himself to think for a second, even though he's at the controls of a 4,000lb moving death machine.
Another dangerous Washington driver. Not an outstanding example, more of a typical one:
Same highway, this time in Oak Harbor where the road is four lanes wide.
I'm in a left-turn pocket, waiting for oncoming traffic to clear so I can turn left into the Wendy's and get myself a couple of Dave's Hot & Greasy Double Cheeseburgers.
Another Bozo going the opposite direction stops in traffic, blocking his lane, and waves at me like he's going to wait for me to turn left in front of him. Problem is, he never checked with the traffic in the lane parallel to him, traveling in the same direction he was. None of them were stopping because they didn't have to.
I'm not taking the bait, and I continued to wait for traffic to clear. By now, traffic behind Bozo is backing up, making my wait even longer, so he's actually f*#king me instead of helping me. If he would think about it for even one second, he'd realize how foolish he was. But like Deer Bozo, one second of actual thinking was apparently asking too much from him, even though he's at the helm of a two-ton moving death machine.
After about a minute, I can tell by his facial expressions that he's getting pissed off at me, for not breaking the law and making what we in California call an "unsafe left turn".
Where in The Vehicle Code does it say that left turns in an uncontrolled intersection have right-of-way? I'll save you the trouble of looking it up: Nowhere. That's where.
But according to some study, Sacramento drivers are the dangerous ones. Drive around a little on Whidbey Island if you still believe that.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Asian drivers
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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LA drivers are some of the worst... They are brainwashed and so arrogant that they forget they are driving along the base of one of the worlds most beautiful mountain ranges.. They behave like desperate idiots driving bumper to bumper...Zombies trapped in their self-important mind set with good paying jobs and the only thing to show for their life efforts are their lame-ass turbo charged cars....
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Any truck driver in Pakistan is way up there. Passing slowly around blind corners on 2 lane mountain roads knowing that they won't die until Allah decides it is time.
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hellroaring
Trad climber
San Francisco
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...when I'm on my bicycle anyone in my vicinity trying to drive & text, or any other preoccupation with their friggin phone/device.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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People in roundabouts who either a; don't know how it works, or even worse b; try to be nice and stop in said roundabout to let people in. Dangerous in general, and also to my mental health. Those people drive me crazy! In the scheme of things it's no big deal, but I live in a town of 3000 people and need something to bitch about.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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I like the fools sporting the license plate frame advertising that they are "Stanford Cardinal Alumni", or "Berkeley Alumni" who do things that are not only dangerous, but head-up-the-butt stupid.
Like the Stanford Cardinal I saw here in Santa Cruz, that not only pulled out in front of traffic - instead of simply waiting his turn for traffic to clear, like a normal person would - but had to do a three-point-turn in order to stay in his lane, while the rest of us stopped and watched.
One must be very highly educated to think he can do something so sh#t-all stupid.
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Capt.
climber
some eastside hovel
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Obviously no one here has ridden with Mark Kahrl. ;-)
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Chaz, you know damn well ARCADIA takes the cup, no ifs, ands, or buts. I was at the mall there the other day and could not believe this retard in his McLaren. He shoulda been driving a golf cart. :-/ e
Reilly, I believe it's called ARCASIA. I used to work with a guy who was rear ended while waiting for a red light to change. It was a sunday morning, with very little traffic. He gets out of his truck, and walks back to the car that hit him. The driver of that car was a Chinese woman. She rolls down her window, and screams at him that it was his fault.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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I have seen, and my ex-wife encountered one head on, many poorly-skilled Asian drivers.
This was on a residential street in Alhambra and her car was totaled.
The cops who arrived on scene had just investigated the guy for another accident less than one week earlier.
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Hubbard
climber
San Diego
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Spiewak and I were flying along the dirt track to Canjon Tajo in his Suburu and I mentioned maybe we should slow down a little as we were fishtailing through a few curves. Brian laughed and agreed and eased off the gas some. We went into the next blind curve and were confronted by a Baja 1000 type buggy speeding as fast as we had been going and this guy was right down the middle of the road. I grabbed the dash and prepared for impact. Both drivers were good with fast reactions and our car went off the road for a little bit and then recovered with dirt and rocks flying and a cloud of dust. A game of inches type moment.
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Hoser
climber
Vancouver,Rome
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Jul 10, 2017 - 04:24am PT
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I complain a lot about the drivers in Rome, to the point that I dont really get upset anymore, but it does bother me.
While being driven to the crag by a friend from Greece...I started complaining and he said he thought the Romans were worse than the Greeks. I pointed out some behaviours and he totally did not agree with me.
The guy who passed everyone on the shoulder to get to the front of the line..."probably just made a navigation error", the guy who started a second line at the traffic stop in a one lane road..."was being efficient and it was people like me who made traffic"...his drifting across lane dividers.."was not a big deal"...
There are often massive accidents here, not as many as you would think, but they do happen and they are often spectacular...Italy is in the top 3 for most litigious countries in the world.
Driving in Rome is not recommended but necessary if you wish to do more than buy a selfie stick at the Colosseum.
I think the best is when I pick up family/friends from the airport and we get to a stop sign and no one stops...its their first taste of driving in Rome. Where Canadian and American driving licences are not allowed to be directly swapped for an Italian one...because our driving schools and tests are too simple...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 10, 2017 - 07:58am PT
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The hoodlums who treat the Angeles Crest Highway as their private weekend race track are a sure sign of our society's decline. They think it is their right to drive dangerously and stoopidly. A moto passed us on a double yellow heading into a 25 mph curve and wasn't back over the line one second before a car came around the curve. If it had been some phuktard wannabe Ken Block in his POS '03 Accord it could have been bad.
On the way back one of those clowns was behind me. I drove 5 over the limit and a bit more on the straights and uphills for about 8 miles. I could see him coming unhinged back there. He finally lost it and passed me on a double yellow and immediately cut in front of me and slammed on his brakes. That's weak, bra! I went to pass him so he swerved left. I'm loving it! Only problem is then I had a pissed off wife screaming at me and harshing my vibe! Phuktard and I did the tango a time or two more before his pea brain told him not only had he met his match but that a Ford Raptor driver is not gonna be intimidated by some moron in a 12 year old Civic! He finally flipped me off and sped off.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Jul 10, 2017 - 08:26am PT
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The hoodlums who treat the Angeles Crest Highway as their private weekend race track are a sure sign of our society's decline. They think it is their right to drive dangerously and stoopidly. A moto passed us on a double yellow heading into a 25 mph curve and wasn't back over the line one second before a car came around the curve. If it had been some phuktard wannabe Ken Block in his POS '03 Accord it could have been bad.
On the way back one of those clowns was behind me. I drove 5 over the limit and a bit more on the straights and uphills for about 8 miles. I could see him coming unhinged back there. He finally lost it and passed me on a double yellow and immediately cut in front of me and slammed on his brakes. That's weak, bra! I went to pass him so he swerved left. I'm loving it! Only problem is then I had a pissed off wife screaming at me and harshing my vibe! Phuktard and I did the tango a time or two more before his pea brain told him not only had he met his match but that a Ford Raptor driver is not gonna be intimidated by some moron in a 12 year old Civic! He finally flipped me off and sped off.
Agree with everything you wrote. I freely admit that when one of those rice rocket riders ends up on the pavement, I don't lose any sleep over it.
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jonnyrig
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Jul 10, 2017 - 10:56am PT
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And the pie chart says:
LEARN HOW TO DRIVE! ya fricken morans!
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Drunk-driver-slept-while-Tesla-drove-Hwy-101-on-13435295.php
When a pair of California Highway Patrol officers pulled alongside a car cruising down Highway 101 in Redwood City before dawn Friday, they reported a shocking sight: a man fast asleep behind the wheel.
The car was a Tesla, the man was a Los Altos planning commissioner, and the ensuing freeway stop turned into a complex, seven-minute operation in which the officers had to outsmart the vehicle’s autopilot system because the driver was unresponsive, according to the CHP.
The arrest of 45-year-old Alexander Samek on suspicion of drunken driving reignited questions about the uses, and potential abuses, of self-driving technology.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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good bump
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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It's amazing how the tires squeal so much in the sand!!!
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otisdog
Social climber
Sierra Madre, Ca.
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My neighbor, a Phd out of Caltech, and a member of the board of a national oil company that is located in Asia, is a big Tesla fan. Left after Memorial day on a national road trip...."be back Labor Day weekend."
1st week of August he gets dropped of by a Uber, sans Tesla. Was sleeping in the Tesla one night as it headed west in northern New Mexico...Tesla couldn't figure out a 'T' intersection, and they both ended up in a tree....
Had a new Tesla delivered a couple of weeks later.
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Oldfattradguy2
Trad climber
Here and there
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Utah natives are pretty damn scary, especially in Utah County, but what do I know I have only driven in 45 states...
Got picked up hitching in 1980 by Jello, that was an adventure, glad I got to ask him if he drove his scooter chair the same way, he got a good laugh.
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Majid_S
Mountain climber
Karkoekstan, Former USSR
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In SF Bay area
Any Toyota Prius drivers are dangerous
Period
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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How do you know Chinese have moved into your neighborhood?
The Mexicans start buying car insurance.
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jonnyrig
climber
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I think as self- driving technology advances it could potentially significantly reduce accidents from carelessness and being under the influence.
Just think of the potential for road trips.. travel by night, enjoy your wine, sleep in the back, and wake up fresh at your destination.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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We hitch hiked from the Valley to the Meadows. It was a Grade V endeavor, no one would stop for us. Finally this chick in a Mercedes gave us a ride. She said that she was a local, had grown up in Yosemite. She was constantly passing other cars on blind curves on the way to Tuolomne. She said that knew the traffic patterns well and "no one was coming the other direction."
Another time I hitch-hiked from San Jose to Yosemite Valley. An older guy in a Cadillac gave me a ride. He said that he had to be at his brother's wedding at the chapel in 3-1/2 hours. I was so terrified of his driving that I pretended to go to sleep, but I was actually cowering under a blanket.
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skywalker1
Trad climber
co
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Whitewater Kayakers!!!!
S...
Edit: I forgot to tell a story and give a name. Geoff I will leave it at that had a habit of passing cars just when we were entering a single lane bridge in WV. The later is important.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Aparently me when I am in my plow truck...
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Dave
Mountain climber
the ANTI-fresno
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"How do you know Chinese have moved into your neighborhood?
The Mexicans start buying car insurance."
Proof that liberals are dicks and racists, as much as they accuse conservatives of the same.
Wow...
Nicely done, Gary.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Kunlun, and how stoopid was that woman to walk behind that psycho? Ho Lee Phuk!
Just yesterday I watched some tard clearly speeding (I have a radar gun implant) behind me. Without my implant I could also tell they were speeding as I was doing the limit and they were gaining on me fast. I got to the stop sign, waited the 0.2 seconds I normally wait (and I actually did stop) and took off. The tard stopped at the stop sign and sat there for like 4 or 5 seconds! There was no other traffic. If they were in such a big hurry what changed? I see this constantly. I used to attribute it to them seeing ghosts. Probably now they’re checking their all important phone to see if their big stock option move paid off.
Page 2:
LA, in a tacit admission of failure ‘To Serve and Protect’, has announced they are going to raise residential area speed limits. The most libtard city council in the country, save Portland, is basically saying “To hell with y’all, yer on yer own.”
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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G_Gnome posted this a while back...
Oh god, I am bound to be the brunt of some stories in this thread. Good thing Waugh doesn't do the interweb or we would be here all night. I have almost killed that man more times than any man deserves.
I'd say this. When you put Jan in a capable car like his Subie WRX Turbo he goes fast but it's not downright scary.
But the time I let him drive my 4 door long bed Tacoma from Mojave to L.A. down the 14? Good God. That road is like running the gauntlet at the speed limit. I just wrote it off, I'm not getting home alive.
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Worst Driver I have seen ever:
Giant lifted pickup truck going down Rosecrans in San Diego.
Cut off about 15 cars in only 15 blocks, forcing all of them to slam on the brakes, since none thought it was worth a major accident that the ahole truck driver was looking for.
A few specs from Car and Driver to indicate capability on the Angeles Highway:
Raptor price as tested $71,265 (base price: $57,335)
Braking, 70–0 mph: 198 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.70 g
C/D FUEL ECONOMY Observed: 12 mpg
epa rated 18mpg highway
Civic SI $24,975 (base price: $24,775)
Braking, 70-0 mph: 159 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.97 g
FUEL ECONOMY: C/D observed: 26 mpg
C/D observed 75-mph highway driving: 36 mpg
Civic sport $22,175 (base price: $22,175)
Braking, 70-0 mph: 160 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad*: 0.93 g
FUEL ECONOMY: C/D observed: 31 mpg
C/D observed 75-mph highway driving: 43 mpg
I won't even mention the specs on the Civic type R,
which is so expensive it costs 50% of a Raptor.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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The most dangerous highway in the USA is a 2-lane that runs through the Navajo reservation near Shiprock, New Mexico. Lots of drunk indians crossing the centerline. The road is an north-south offshoot of the old Route 66.
It's designated Route 666.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I drove that unwittingly on a Friday night! I was on my way from Seattle to ABQ.
Holy Jeebus! I got ran off the road twice in a 40 mile stretch!
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Mark Rodell
Trad climber
Bangkok
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Thailand has ranked high in traffic deaths per capita for many years. I lived there for over twenty years and had a car for a few of those years. Driving was a high stress affair and I finally sold my car, finding it more calming to take a taxi and bury myself in reading.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Charles Cole got my attention more than once.
On the way down from Idyllwild to Hemet there's a stretch where you can see a long section of the road ahead as it winds down the mountain. It was one of his favorite places to pass. Of course after you get the view, it goes blind again. No worries, there's no one coming (except for the guy that was in a turnout and decided it was time to go.)
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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I have had several people WIDE eyed tell me about drives with G_Gnome, but my experience was a little different.
We were on the way home late at night from Cochise Stronghold in my truck . Guyman and I were asleep in the back not seatbelted in. I wake up to all hell breaking loose. We are in the fast lane and rubber is flying everywhere & it sounds like the fender is about to rip off. I figure we have blown a tire off the rim and are going to roll at 70+ mph. G_Gnome drives the 5800 lb. truck into the dirt on the left without hitting the center divider fence. I realize that the truck next to us had blown the tires off it's trailer and what I heard was everything hitting us. Jan does not let off the gas & gives the driver of the truck & trailer time to get control of his rig. Then he calmly pulls the truck back up on the freeway.
He never missed a beat.
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Moof
Big Wall climber
Orygun
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A couple weeks back I was riding my bicycle home on a nice sunny afternoon. As I rolled up to red light at a major intersection in the bike lane, a Dodge Durango pulls into my bike lane to turn right without looking first. I have 1600 lumen light flashing on the bike, and a 700 lumen light on my helmet, so it is not hard to see me coming... I blast my helmet light into the passenger window to keep from getting run over.
The driver gives me the “what the hell are you doing there” look, and then proceeds with her turn without ever actually stopping. A moment later there is a crunch as she nails the passenger door of a car in the farther of the two lanes.
Not safe for anyone in any lane around her. The guy behind her saw the whole thing and just lost it laughing his arse off. Instant karma.
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Don Lauria
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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Layton Kor in the late 60s. He was always in a hurry.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Usually the drunk guy with the ugly pants and a heinous slice.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Tell a story about the most dangerous driver you ever had the pleasure of sitting next to...
When I was in the Navy, I flew combat jets from aircraft carriers as the copilot. I guess they considered me a straight shooter because they told me that I was always going to be paired with the "problem" jet pilots. And so I had my share of baby-sitting dangerous pilots in a dangerous flying environment.... and there were mishaps. (DISCLAIMER: I did not have a stick or brakes in front of me.)
Once my pilot made a last-second course correction just before catching a wire, and he slapped the wing onto the deck. Thankfully we didn't cartwheel in a fireball.
Another time he rotated too high on touchdown (air braking on a land airfield) as we were really low on fuel so the jet was super light. He dragged the rudder down the runway, shortening it by about 1 foot. That was the time the skipper let us take a jet to Key West for Thanksgiving, as long as we didn't bust an airplane. The jet was grounded and the skipper had to send a maintenance crew across the country to replace the rudder.
Another time he misunderstood the green shirt's hand signals on the carrier deck, and we rolled across the deck and crashed into another jet.
Yet another time we were doing some aerial refueling, and he ripped the basket off the tanker. We diverted to a land base with the basket stuck on the refueling probe and 30 feet of 3-inch steel hose whipping around on the side of the jet. We thought it was going to bust the canopy, but it didn't.
Another time we were doing ACM (air combat maneuvering, or dog fighting), and were in a rolling scissors. We came so close to a canopy-on-canopy mid-air collision with the other jet that I literally sh#t my pants. That was the most frightened that I've ever been in my life.
FINALLY: We were on the catapult at night with a 61,000 pound load, getting ready to bang off the pointy end of the ship. The cat crew showed me the weight board to verify the catapult power, but the bastard was really too far away and I couldn't read it. They usually come right up to the cockpit with the weight board; was this kid too scared of the jet intakes to get that close? My pilot started screaming at me to "roger" the weight board so that we could launch, but I argued that I couldn't read the damn thing (and my pilot couldn't read it either). We waited and waited for the kid to "get a clue" and move closer, but he didn't "get it" and just stood there holding the damn thing over his head. I went to break radio silence to tell the boss that the weight board was too far away, and my pilot punched me when I keyed the mic. I shrugged it off and told the air boss of our problem. My message was relayed and finally the kid moved closer. The weight board read only 50,000 pounds!!!! If I had listened to the pilot, then we would have gone swimming that night, strapped to 61,000 pounds of the Navy's finest. Oh, yeah, and once we were in the water, the aircraft carrier would have run over us. At night. In the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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Try Delhi traffic on a Friday evening (or anytime for that matter).
Or anywhere in Bangladesh.
Check the stats but I'm sure India has 5x's as many traffic fatalities as the US does in any given year.
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spud
climber
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PUDS.....Pernicious Utah Drivers, LDS or not. LDS also for Levan Death Strip on Interstate 15. Some of the scariest drivers back when I lived in SLC in the 70’s and scary today even more so!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Yeah, SLR wins although my bro-in-law was conducting a check ride and the dude actually did put them in the drink!
And 7 years ago a Suxhoi company pilot on a demonstration flight directly struck Mount Salak in Indonesia, killing all 45 on board (Sukhoi personnel and representatives of various local airlines). The TAWS was ignored by the pilot, distracted by a conversation with a potential customer. You can’t make that sh!t up!
And wazzup with the retards who won’t even let you off the elevator before they force their way on? 5 minutes ago the door opens for us, the only pax, at the third floor. A young woman is standing there, alone, and she tries to get on before we exit! No doubt she drives the same way.
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jeff constine
Trad climber
Ao Namao
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Skippy AKA Justthemaid remember the time 4 (Jen you Sven and I) of us were on the way to Mammoth you were driving the traffic was backed up on the 405 then you decided to cross the double yellow into the Car Pool lane, i said don't do it there Is a CHP watching, you did the deed and got a FAT Ticket. Bummers :( BAd mark for you lol!
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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I had a Dodge van that was getting on in miles, and I needed a more reliable one for work and trips out West.so I sold the old one to a guy I was working with and bought a new one. Everything was going well until one night he got drunk and decided to drive home anyway. He was on rt. 270 outside DC when he fell asleep and slumped over in the van at 50 mph, which then plowed into the back of a tractor trailer parked on the shoulder. The trailer sheered off the top of the van.
Remarkably, it just woke him up and he stepped out the front of the van.
So now he needs another vehicle. My wife’s car was available so I sold that to him. Two weeks later he got drunk again and plowed into the back of a cop car stopped at a light.
He did time for that one. Then he joined AA and became a Jehova’s Witness.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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My old buddie Howie Doyle
I always told Howard i’d Meet him at the crag.
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