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TrundleBum
Trad climber
Las Vegas
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Jan 31, 2008 - 07:49pm PT
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yah beat me to it Werner...
Smokers suck.
They all should be strung up and made to live in the fuselage of a 1950 airliner
(yah know the ones, where they used hand out complimentary 4 packs of cigs to all patrons)
I used to smoke, I tossed a butt once and that was it.
Before you know it I was tossing cars off cliffs into the ocean, burning heaps of plastic to get the ounce or two of salvage copper and robbing senior citizens of their pocket change in order to support my habit.
I just shudder to think back to when I did smoke.
I was so self obsorbed that I did not notice other people much.
Now I am stoked to apply all the free time I gain from not smoking, to be able to observe, critique and be judgemental of those that do.
I absolutely abhorr it when I drive my gas guzzling 'suburban' up to the valley, fighting my way through hours of carbon monoxide, apply DMSO all over my elbows and que up at a crowded route just to endure some idiot forcing me to smell some iota of scent generated by some infintesimal part per billion of the 'over 100' ingrediants that they put into 'taylor made' cigs.
I am so glad to have had quit and know that I am going to live this long fruitful life free of strife due to complications associated with smoking.
Now if I can just control everything else about my stuffy urban lifestyle such as:
cancer
car accidents
angry husbands
STD's
ice fall
rock fall
avalanche
lightning
the IRS
and judgemental people that love to follow contemporary vogue.
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Got a lighter?
signed:
devils advocate
Ps. throuout my life the people that were the most adamant about my quitting...
ARE DEAD !
Cancer mostly (non smoke related), some from alpinisim, a few that 'aced' themselves
and a couple from OD's.
How come Vegans and 'tofu fascists' always seem to have a cold, or a flu or this, or that or their stomach is upset because the thought of killing a mammal for food.. etc etc ?
Gimme a steak loaded with hormones, a nice cold beer with way to much preservative, a fat bowl of the dank and top it all off with a a Marlboro.
I aint been sick in years.
But I do get freaky in 75 mph freeway traffic.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 31, 2008 - 07:52pm PT
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Don't forget the part about non-smokers being sanctimonious self-righteous boring prudes. :-)
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dipper
climber
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Jan 31, 2008 - 09:16pm PT
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drc wrote:
I always pocket my butts east of Manteca (inside and out of the car). In the city, I really don't give a S%*#. Sorry.
And that is why our cities look like sh*t.
People trained to trash the city will be more likely to trash the wilderness.
If you treated the earth west of Manteca the same as you treat the earth east of it, those around you might be less inclined to toss their butts, burger wrappers, red bull cans, truck loads of yard waste etc.
If we all did just a little bit better, just imagine how much nice it could be for us all.
If you must choose to smoke, carry a small container to store your butts til you can dispose of them more respectfully.
Respect the earth wherever you are.
Respect yourself wherever you are.
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elcap-pics
climber
Crestline CA
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Jan 31, 2008 - 11:20pm PT
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Smoking climbers... it is part of the "I am invincible and am never going to die" mentality that many have... they know better of course, we all know the statistics, but it is a play now, pay later thing... I like a good cheap cigar sometimes and know better but if you can't have some pleasures in life then what can you say? You have to die of something they say and smoking is a really good way to die before you time... so man up and suck it down... fire all your guns.. just not near me please!
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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When I ran the SF Marathon, just before it started, there were these Japanese Runners; seeded, 5-6 minute milers, hanging out, having a smoke, before the next opportunity, 26.2 miles later.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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I rode my bicycle across America........twice.........and was a smoker;......(I since have quit)........it's a tough nut to crack. (33 days W to E........17 days N to S)........lots of athletes smoke......it's a dirty habit..........(Used to be one of my favorite things to do......) When you are in your 20's and 30's ....you can put all sorts of nasty pollutants in your body; and not even slow yourself down.....in your 40's , 50's and older......best to clean up your act if you want to go the distance.......
33 days later, coast to coast.....and STILL a smoker......(Started in Oceanside, Ca.;...this is at the end;...Surf City, North Carolina)
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AbeFrohman
Trad climber
new york, NY
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Largo?
How has it been, nic free?
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SteveW
Trad climber
Denver, CO
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You might as well just suck on the car's exhaust pipe. . .
spoken by one of those self righteous boobs that
quit 25 years ago. . .
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TwistedCrank
climber
Ideeho
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2008 - 10:09am PT
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you said "boobs"
teeheeheeheeheeheehee
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SteveW
Trad climber
Denver, CO
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Twisted.
I was a boob, dweeb, dumbo, you name it.
Smoking is not cool. Kills people. I did it for
15 years (2 pack a day), and continue to worry
I'll get lung cancer down the road. I'd rather
get hit by a truck. . .
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kev
climber
CA
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Dipper, so the 'city' (whatever the f&*k the 'city' is-is not trashed???)
How could you even compare 'the city' with the sierras or wherever you claim such moral superiority. So do you drive a car? Who do you work for? Are you the typical BS 'city' person.
DRC and I have dragged out sooo much trash from places varying from taquitz to TM. Hell the rangers in Idyllwild GAVE us trash bags after we dumped 4 bags of crap for them.
GET A F&*KINB GRIP. Do you carpool? Have you ever volunteered for fun?
I quit smoking a while back but what I know is that the vast majority of us smokers (yes I still call myself that because I am addicted to this nasty smelly unhealthy habit that I love but (is there a pun there) choose to avoid) that are dirtbags clean our sh#t up and everyone else's sh#t too. So perhaps you should get a less sanfran BULLSH#T perspective!
Ok I need to finish my beer and prepare for aid in the rain tomorrow..
g'night
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tenesmus
Trad climber
slc
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I don't get finding cigarette butts way up on climbs. "yeah, just dump that butt in the crack at the last belay... no one will notice...." lame as hell.
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Euroford
Trad climber
chicago
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i would love to quite smoking, but just don't have the incentive. surely this won't last forever, but i enjoy the habit and that hike up to chasm view, leave my non smoker friends in the dust.
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cintune
climber
Penn's Woods
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I quit with the help of Chantix. Pack a day for ten years or so, took the prescription for two weeks (instead of the twelve they recommend) and that was it. No interest, no cravings, just done. So I'd recommend it to anyone who really wants to quit. Better living through chemistry.
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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"I smoke two joints
before I smoke two joints,
and then I smoke two more"
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leinosaur
Trad climber
burns flat, ok
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One of the best cigs I ever had was an American Spirit Light I found intact about three pitches from the bottom after rapping Crest Jewel and Royal Arches. A gift from the tobacco gods, for sure. I'm about a "pack a year" man, these days. Campfires and the occasional cigar, mostly.
I know that any is bad, and the PA training I start this July may cure me of even the pack-a-year business, but managing to enjoy the occasional one without getting back on the train has spoiled me some.
I pocketed the filter, by the way, and usually go for the filterless "rollies," which leave barely a trace, anyhow. Quick biodegraders, I'm sure. Vegetable matter. Keep the cigar bands in my wallet, if they're good.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Come to where the flavor is......come to Marlboro Country....
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Buggs
Trad climber
Eagle River, Alaska
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tenemus,
Not so lame when you are halfway up the wall and out of smokes, dig a few half-smoked snipes out of the crack, and roll a semi-fresh nerve mender.
Aint that right, survival?
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