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bvb

Social climber

flagstaff arizona

Jan 24, 2008 - 12:47pm PT

anyone care to take a stab at why they named the movie after yeat's "sailing to byzantium?"

That is no country for old men. The young
In one another's arms, birds in the trees -
Those dying generations - at their song,
The salmon-falls, the mackerel-crowded seas,
Fish, flesh, or fowl, commend all summer long
Whatever is begotten, born, and dies.
Caught in that sensual music all neglect
Monuments of unageing intellect.

An aged man is but a paltry thing,
A tattered coat upon a stick, unless
Soul clap its hands and sing, and louder sing
For every tatter in its mortal dress,
Nor is there singing school but studying
Monuments of its own magnificence;
And therefore I have sailed the seas and come
To the holy city of Byzantium.

O sages standing in God's holy fire
As in the gold mosaic of a wall,
Come from the holy fire, perne in a gyre,
And be the singing-masters of my soul.
Consume my heart away; sick with desire
And fastened to a dying animal
It knows not what it is; and gather me
Into the artifice of eternity.

Once out of nature I shall never take
My bodily form from any natural thing,
But such a form as Grecian goldsmiths make
Of hammered gold and gold enamelling
To keep a drowsy Emperor awake;
Or set upon a golden bough to sing
To lords and ladies of Byzantium
Of what is past, or passing, or to come.

-- William Butler Yeats

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber

Toquerville, Utah

Mar 12, 2008 - 08:20am PT

I think its obvious Bob.

Its a rough world, then you die.

Just saw it DVD). Liked it same as all the other Cohen Bros films.

But why must Hollywood always mis-portray guns (and climbing)?
A silenced shotgun?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Loomis

climber

Lat/Lon: 35.64 -117.66

Mar 12, 2008 - 08:44am PT

But I am the old man.

426

Sport climber

Buzzard Point, TN

Mar 15, 2008 - 12:18pm PT

Callit frendo

WandaFuca

Gym climber

San Fernando Lamas

Mar 15, 2008 - 02:33pm PT

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

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WandaFuca

Gym climber

San Fernando Lamas

Mar 15, 2008 - 02:50pm PT

Just saw it last night.

It is one of my favorite movies.

MisterE

Social climber

My Inner Nut

Mar 15, 2008 - 03:17pm PT

Just watched it last week. The locator beacon was a bit of a stretch, and the ending a little bit confusing but I liked the rest of it.
The most important lesson is: if you steal $2mil from a herion dealer in the desert, don't go back to give the dying mexican water!

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber

Toquerville, Utah

Mar 15, 2008 - 04:52pm PT

And throw away your boots, and don't take the HK, and hole up in another state after changing vehicles and directions a few times, and,....

ha-ha

climber

location

Mar 16, 2008 - 07:42am PT

great movie, but it's no Lebowski or Fargo.

the reveal in the book of the death of Moss and his little girly friend was much better than in the movie, imo. i wish the bros would've stuck to the book a little closer. great flick nonetheless.

"Whatcha got ain't nothin new. This country's hard on people, you can't stop what's coming, it ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity."

atchafalaya

climber

Babylon

Mar 16, 2008 - 05:14pm PT

just saw it. great movie, I couldnt turn away. But the hollywood style ending sucked. Still a great movie though.

rockermike

Mountain climber

Berkeley

Mar 16, 2008 - 05:19pm PT

Saw No country a month ago or so. I liked it even if too dark. Had nightmares for a few days afterwards.

But I just saw another (also with tommy lee jones) that I liked even better. Three Burials from 2005 or so. neo-western. I won't say more. see it.

cintune

climber

Penn's Woods

Mar 16, 2008 - 05:27pm PT

MisterE: The most important lesson is: if you steal $2mil from a herion dealer in the desert, don't go back to give the dying mexican water!

I think the more important lesson is to always transfer the cash to a new pack asap. That's what I always do, now.

the Fet

Knackered climber

A bivy sack in the secret campground

Mar 17, 2008 - 11:23am PT

After all the hype and awards I thought it was weak. Watched the DVD last night, I fell asleep 15 minutes before the end, boring. Then my wife woke me up and she watched the end again, looking for something she missed. Nope nothing there.

You don't need a clean hollywood resolution, but for cripes sake have something. Have it end in some kind of irony, or reveal. No character development. No subtext.

This is just a unimaginative "and a bunch of sh#t happens." leaves you thinking "what's the point?" movies. The acting and action were good, not great.

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber

Toquerville, Utah

Mar 17, 2008 - 11:48am PT

Could it be that the "point" is there is no point?

John Mac

Trad climber

Littleton, CO

Mar 17, 2008 - 11:54am PT

Watched it this weekend and thought it was a great movie with great acting. I was totally absorbed in it and then bang, it was over. Watched it the 2nd time before returning the DVD to McDonalds. Definately got my dollars worth on this one.

the Fet

Knackered climber

A bivy sack in the secret campground

Mar 17, 2008 - 12:21pm PT

Could it be that the "point" is there is no point?

Yes. But why would I be interested in something with no point. I guess it appeals to some people. But that just seems like a cop out to me. At least when forrest gump did it, they made it interesting.

climber

The Eye of the Snail

Mar 17, 2008 - 12:38pm PT

There's somebody lookin for me. Not police. Just call me if anybody else checks in tonight. And by anybody I mean any swinging dick.

Mighty Hiker

Social climber

Vancouver, B.C.

Mar 23, 2008 - 07:15pm PT

I liked it, for all its bleakness. It would be easy to try to read too much, or too little, into it - it wasn't that tidy, and neither is life.

Perhaps it was all about sin. Even Moss, at the start of the movie, 'sins' - he chooses to follow the dying dog to the drug crime scene, rather than the antelope he'd shot. And his attempt at redemption - with water, at that - went sour. Javier Bardem in the role of Satan, punishing them all.

Kelly McDonald was the schoolgirl in Trainspotting - she was a real surprise, not to mention her accent.