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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 24, 2013 - 01:05am PT
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Believe me, 10b...Max is on a leash most anytime we're on a walk. There are a few places, though, where it's just the right thing to let him walk and run free. We're fortunate to live in a place that affords that luxury.
How do all the ST dog lovers teach their pups basic commands? How many of you try to instill some level of structure in your relationship with your pup? If so, what is the acceptable level you seek?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 24, 2013 - 01:46am PT
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apogee, I'm sure you're well aware of how the yotes will lure dogs to their
demise. Your buddy clearly doesn't take you seriously - you're not the Alpha
Dude. For starters you need to start from scratch with carefully structured
walks on a very short leash/choke chain. His life may well depend on doing
it right and being consistent.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 24, 2013 - 02:18am PT
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Feck, Reilly...I'm so Alpha with Max that my friends & family think I'm an as#@&%e. (I think they think that, anyway.) When we walk, his leash is plenty short.
I've established a clear structure with him, on the other hand, he's a relatively young male and acting like it. (Jeebus...the irony blows my mind.)
I'm all about the 'pack behavior' psychology, but finding a balance between Alpha structure and being a plain ol' dog nazi is tough.
Of course, it's only been 4 months, he's only ~ 3 yrs old, and who knows how much (or if) he received any kind of training before he came to this home. Maybe I'm expecting too much.
Is this what it's like to have kids?
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RP3
Big Wall climber
Sonora
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Oct 24, 2013 - 02:27am PT
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Bruce at Bishop Pass after climbing Mt Agassiz
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David Knopp
Trad climber
CA
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Oct 24, 2013 - 10:25am PT
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beagles doing what they do best.
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SCseagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Oct 24, 2013 - 12:36pm PT
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Is this what it's like to have kids?
Putting choke chains or correction collars on kids is frowned upon. But yes, similar.
Susan
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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Oct 24, 2013 - 12:45pm PT
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Putting choke chains or correction collars on kids is frowned upon. Then how am i supposed to get them to stop begging for scraps when i eat?
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AKDOG
Mountain climber
Anchorage, AK
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Oct 24, 2013 - 01:36pm PT
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My pup pulled up lame. According to the Vet she has a torn ACL, anyone of you dog lovers have experience with outcomes of dogs after having a surgical repair (TPLO)
The dog is very active almost daily mountain runs and skis in winter, currently if she does anything more than a short walk, the limp gets worse. Any experiences would be appreciated.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Oct 24, 2013 - 01:41pm PT
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My big black Lab Toby had the same thing. The vet did the TPLO, and he was back to normal before long. It never bothered him again. Good luck!
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thebravecowboy
Social climber
Colorado Plateau
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Oct 24, 2013 - 05:08pm PT
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Three years ago my folks found a dog that was near death, her belly and groin frozen to the snow. They coaxed her home, cleaned off the dead flesh.
After a couple months it became apparent that her rear legs were not functional. We invested $4,000 in ACL repair (both hind legs!).
She is a gawdamned wondergirl now! She went from hardly walking to the fastest dog I have ever known. Let her off the leash today and she f*#king dances down the trail!
ACL surgery for the mutt is super-pricy and completely worthwhile! Do it. You will feel like Mother Theresa and your dog will regain that vital ability to roam vigorously, to 'splore fully.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Oct 24, 2013 - 05:32pm PT
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Yes last year my 110lb. leonberger. It took 8 weeks of very careful recover time, but he's back to himself.
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AKDOG
Mountain climber
Anchorage, AK
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Oct 24, 2013 - 06:52pm PT
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Thanks for all the responses
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Oct 24, 2013 - 08:02pm PT
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hey there say, all...
always love this thread, i do! :)
*well, yeah, and the cat threads, and , and, and... :)
say, thebravecowboy...
wow, WHAT a story... and such a wonderful successful outcome...
the dog was sure in the right place at the right time to be found,
though it HAD been in the WRONGest PLACE ever, :(
and to AKDOG:
hope it all gets well soon...
and to ekat, wow, ekat, good share, as to info, too!
fun thread, thanks to all for sharing the 'dog life'...
:)
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Oct 24, 2013 - 08:11pm PT
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hey there say, apogee...
patty ann marie, my dog...
will do anything i ask, to teach her, for:
peanut butter... and just a small tad, at that...
however, i have NOT taught her to not chase squirrels, etc, as, she is a backyard dog, and that her is best exercise here...
HOWEVER, if i had, i do believe she would have learned, as, i DID teache her this:
on our walks, she pull me awful hard at the sudden SIGN of a squirrel, :O
so, with my trusty peanutbutter in hand, i TAUGHT her to 'slow to a stop' and SNEAK very very slow towards them... :))
then, at the last minute, before they saw her (as, we got awful close that way) :)) well, THEN, when i was holding her hard enough to not fall over, i'd say 'okay' and she'd charge the last few feet, as i held her good, and squirrel of course was up the tree by then...
funniest thing for anyone to see...
the 'stalking dog' we are walking at great clip, leashed she is, and then i am pulled to a STOP now, and she freezes and does her STALK...
FOLKS nearby that see this wonder what the 'man oh man!' is WRONG WITH HER...
then, they too, see the squirrel...
(i even wonder what is wrong with her, at times, when she suddenly stops,
as, she loves her walks)...
but--consistency... you have to NOT them respond wrong, or it will be a habit... and like timid said, you must make sure you test the dogs work...
patty ann marie, will not sit, etc, or stop, when there is company at the door, as, WE NEVER have company to practice with... :(
it is trouble to work at this, but are going to do it now...
as, WOW--have HAD more company lately and we NEED this done, :)
(she thinks she is part boxing kangaroo) ;)
all her commands, though, that she has learned DO WORK elsewhere, and here, after company is in... it is AT THE door!!
where we must do our work...
and with her, i'd not let her off leash, as, i have read that dogs that are part whippet, it is NOT a good idea...
their INGRAINED nature to sight-hound and then run, is just too strong...
some may go to trail so strong, they will not even be thinking to come back, :( and get lost that way... :(
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Oct 25, 2013 - 06:12pm PT
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Oct 25, 2013 - 06:17pm PT
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In the mean time, keep him on a leash.
Yes and no. I don't know where you all live, maybe more densely populated areas than I do. I've had no issues with my dogs being off leash in the mountains. On steeper terrain, a leash can be dangerous.
There is no black and white.
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Edge
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Oct 25, 2013 - 10:49pm PT
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Home early from work today, so I took the dogs on a new trail just 15 minutes walk from our house.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Oct 26, 2013 - 02:33pm PT
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Slack and I on our latest mission.
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Tadman
Mountain climber
CA
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Oct 27, 2013 - 02:56pm PT
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Luna (the pup) is a rescue. 1/3heeler, 1/3 aussie, 1/3 piranha, 1/3 luv machine!
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Tadman
Mountain climber
CA
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Oct 27, 2013 - 03:02pm PT
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Proof that Luna has actually chilled for the 30 seconds it took to snap this pic
No surprise...Our last Cattle Dog was a semi contained explosion that lasted for 15 years.
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