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Donny Quijote
Sport climber
Boulder F'n CO
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 8, 2004 - 02:00pm PT
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You'll be hearing from my lawyers.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Marin Hot Tub Country
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So in other words, your people will be contacting his people?
How do you sue a pseudonym?
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Irisharehere
Trad climber
Gunks
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Be careful, Donny's going to give you a spanking!!!!!
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yo
climber
NOT Fresno
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Two fully punctuated sentences? You're not Donny.
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scottie_c
Trad climber
Burlington, VT
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why go to court?
... surely I must not be the only person wondering
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Donny Quijote
Sport climber
Boulder F'n CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 9, 2004 - 04:21pm PT
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Ok...next person to post is a big old homo.
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coylec
Big Wall climber
Portland, OR
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This is interesting?
Do you plan to claim diversity jurisdiction?
What claim are you suing under?
What relief do you seek? An injunction?
Are you going pro se, or do you have a lawyer retained?
Did you know that if you represent yourself, you can still be subject to FRCP Rule 11 sanctions for frivilous claims?
coylec
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Donny Quijote
Sport climber
Boulder F'n CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 9, 2004 - 04:52pm PT
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Haw!!..funny. I guess that means you coylec. BOOM!
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caughtinside
Social climber
Davis, CA
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Chris,
Donny answered all your questions in his first post. 'You'll be hearing from my lawyers.'
Don't think too hard up there, eh?
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Donny Quijote
Sport climber
Boulder F'n CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 9, 2004 - 05:01pm PT
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For the record...I would like the above statement retracted.
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atchafalaya
Trad climber
California
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"While the idea of John Edwards as President is distressing (an ambulance chaser lair, er lawyer as our Chief Executive?)"
25 of the 42 presidents were lawyers. Surely, there are more important things to be disstressed about... like what kinda climber Scott Peterson would be
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TheMaestro
Big Wall climber
Yosemite
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So let me get this right.......you are taking me to court? Sweet dude, do it, then we all can see the true pansy you are in front of everyone. Donny, the only reason why you are getting bent is that all I have said about you is true, so there isn't any slander here. And as far as threats to your well being, nothing to worry there either. Man, I just saw you yesterday and if I wanted to, I would have come up and b*tch slapped you. But I didn't. So do me and everyone else a favor here on SuperTocos and shut the f*ck up. No one cares to here from you or your other psuedonyms that you use on this site. You don't climb, you only read trashy climbing mags and spay about people who you don't know.
That is my whole issue with you man. So once again, a little less posting from you and a little more shut the hell up!
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TheMaestro
Big Wall climber
Yosemite
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One more thought...........For all those of you who think donny and all related psuedonyms of said tool should be banned, please speak up. I for one am sick of his dribble and think he should loose his SuperToco privies.
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Donny Quijote
Sport climber
Boulder F'n CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 9, 2004 - 05:44pm PT
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Yeah...."saw" me. Ok Jose.
You'll be hearing from my lawyers.
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TheMaestro
Big Wall climber
Yosemite
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Yo Brick, you are right, obviously I didn't see donny yesterday. Just said it to mess with him or who ever the hell he is. But he is the tool that I speak of and like I said in my previous post, I am just sick of his dribble and him just being the little b*tch that he is. But after reading the previous postings from him, I wonder if it really is the same guy. His earler posts were filled with so many grammatical errors that who ever is writing this time is obviously not the same guy.
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Donny Quijote
Sport climber
Boulder F'n CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 9, 2004 - 06:23pm PT
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Look you pinheads....how many times do I have to point out that the original Donny troll thing was still me. Holy crap....do I have to continue typing like this:
shut up homos you couldnt climb 5.11 even on toproppe. so even if you did so what anyone can
..just to get some goddam respect around here?? GODDAM!
Maestro. I'll see you in court.
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yo
climber
NOT Fresno
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Ain't me, Brick, honest. I don't need chickenshit alter egos because I'm man enough to hide behind my original pseudonymous self. Please, I don't wanna lose my ST privies!
I am a Donny fan, however, and have him to thank for the success of the Sport is Stupid thread. An admittedly lame troll, with Donny's help (and Paco, who it has been revealed is also Donny) has become so big I can't even load it anymore. What a country.
And if Donny ain't also the Maestro, then I'm a Chinese jet pilot.
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NeverSurfaced
Trad climber
Someplace F*#ked!
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I'm no computer guy, by any stretch. But can't one of you computer geniuses check where the posts come from through some IP address or something & put the whole alter ego thing to be once and for all? Come on:
Jody = Flash
Fish = Paco = Donny = The Maestro
Chris Mac = SATAN
One of you computer geeks has got to be able to figure it out!
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yo
climber
NOT Fresno
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Seriously, one of you dorks solve this sh#t. These are important mysteries.
What's freaking me out are the Daves and daves. And the whole Melissa/Michelle thing. Or Mike and mike and Mike. who I think is the same as Mike, so why is Mike/Mike. hogging two handles when there's another dozen Mikes lined up to get in?
Half the time I don't know who's talking. At least half.
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Demented
climber
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i really don't want to know. It's kind of like finding out that the Tooth Fairy or the Easter Bunny is not real. Like looking behind the Wizard of Oz's curtain. Or pulling the mask off the Lone Ranger
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dirk_007
climber
boulder, co
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Your time is running out Donny. Myseld and the Maestro saw you the other day. And if it wasn't for a crowd of witnesses and that I needed to be somewhere we were gonna jump your sorry ass. Make all the comments you want, the both of us could kick your sorry ass while taking a sh#t. And would only take as much as energy as well. Better look over your shoulder Donny....next thing you know you'll be wearing special orthopedic t-shirts the rest of your sorry existance reading your precious pansy climbing mag..
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Donny Quijote
Sport climber
Boulder F'n CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 9, 2004 - 08:38pm PT
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What??...Maestro and me one in the same? It's no fun arguing with yourself..and Fish?..I don't even know who that is.
Oh yeah,
I'll see all of you in court.
Wait a sec....Dirk? Ain't that name kinda masculine for a wench?
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mark
climber
yosemite
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Donny you miserable sack of sh#t. The next time I see your sorry ass im gonna bury it. But i know this, I won't see you climbing......cause you don't. I'll just kick your ass in the climbing store while you drool over your stupid mags you puss faced little pip squeak. You talk alot of sh#t. You'll know its me, i'll ask you your name, say whats up, and as i shake your hand Im gonna drop you like the sack of sh#t you are....
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Donny Quijote
Sport climber
Boulder F'n CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 9, 2004 - 09:16pm PT
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I request that the above statement be stricken from the record.
Thank you.
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TheMaestro
Big Wall climber
Yosemite
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Nov 10, 2004 - 11:10am PT
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To all of you who are misguided:
First, I don't know who the f*ck dirk007 is, but if he doesn't like donny, he is ok in my book. Next, for those of you who think I am donny, that is just laughable. I am someone who spends my time in the valley every summer dealing with the likes of ptpp. Not some moron like donny who sits at home reading climbing mags, spraying, and wishing he was out on the crag.
I agree with most of you that there are way too many pseudonyms and alter egos on this site and something should be done about it. Unfortunately, I don't think there is an end in sight. I will say this though, the donny today either took 3rd grade english to learn how to spell, punctuate, and congugate his sentences, or it is a different person. Given the moron that he first showed us to be, it leads me to believe that donny is a completely different moron than before.
And donny once again, STFU, nobody cares what you have to say.
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Demented
climber
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Nov 10, 2004 - 11:14am PT
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Maestro. Gotta concur with Jefferson. Loved you on Seinfeld.
Now- my question to you is - you wrote "dealing with the likes of ptpp"
I am curious. How DO you deal with PTPP?
By pounding him with beers? By making HIM buy the beers?
By walking the other way as soon as you see him? By carrying his load to the base?
Inquiring minds, and all that.....
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TheMaestro
Big Wall climber
Yosemite
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Nov 10, 2004 - 11:17am PT
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Hey demented, as far as dealing with ptpp, its more or less lessons of how to deal with a kook who clogs routes on the captain. If you read the thread about pee on me pete, you can read the many times I have encountered him on El Cap. How do I deal with him? I just laugh.
Peace
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nature
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Nov 10, 2004 - 11:19am PT
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"By pounding him with beers?" Empty beers that you drank, right?
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Demented
climber
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Nov 10, 2004 - 12:12pm PT
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sorry maestro. i missed your rant on disco stu's pee'd on pete thread. pretty classic.
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dakine420
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Nov 10, 2004 - 02:57pm PT
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i find this thread to be rather funny that donny wants to take the maestro to court over things said in this forum. if that was even remotely plausable, almost all those who write here in st would be on trial. so my response to all this is this. donny be a man and not the little bitch you make all to beleive you are and learn to laugh. sure maestro, oncler, stu, and many, many, others make inflammetory statements to you but don't you think you bring it on yourself. there is only one other tool on st who recieves more sh#t than you and that is that moron flash. and he deserves all that comes his way in my opinion.
hopefully all that people write about you isn't true and hopefully you actually climb and you are not just some poser in a climber's forum.
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cybele
Ice climber
finally, west of the Mississippi
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Nov 10, 2004 - 03:19pm PT
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E re-extends his warm invite for you all to come slug it out at his place, Olde English on him. He's really, REALLY bored, now.
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TheMaestro
Big Wall climber
Yosemite
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Nov 11, 2004 - 12:44pm PT
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Donny=Jody=Flash=D#@&%e bag=Poser Climber=Tool=Moron
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Donny Quijote
Sport climber
Boulder F'n CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2004 - 12:53pm PT
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Jody = Donny? That DOES it Maestro, I'll see you in...
oh wait. I already said that.
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TheMaestro
Big Wall climber
Yosemite
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Nov 11, 2004 - 01:07pm PT
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STFU you tool!
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Donny Quijote
Sport climber
Boulder F'n CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2004 - 01:09pm PT
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Bullying the witness....that'll cost you. Not to mention all the above documented slander.
My lawyer will lay waste to your girlylawyer.
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Donny Quijote
Sport climber
Boulder F'n CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2004 - 02:49pm PT
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Fattrad....that's instigation. You'll find your self behind bars with that attitude.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Nov 12, 2004 - 05:13am PT
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"I'm no computer guy, by any stretch. But can't one of you computer geniuses check where the posts come from through some IP address or something & put the whole alter ego thing to be once and for all? Come on:
Jody = Flash
Fish = Paco = Donny = The Maestro
Chris Mac = SATAN
One of you computer geeks has got to be able to figure it out!"
That's wrong! It doesn't add up. Those numbers are wrong. I am really determined to figure this out once and for all. Frig frig frig. The answer is sitting in front of my nose, and I can't frickin' SEE it. GEEEEEEEZ.
No wonder it takes me so bloody long to solo a wall!
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dakine420
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Nov 13, 2004 - 11:38am PT
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Pete, you keep saying the numbers don't add up, and you don't get it. You are absolutely right. YOU DONT GET IT DO YOU?
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Nov 13, 2004 - 05:02pm PT
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Not yet, Dakine, but I'm going to get it, and although I am not yet sure, I believe you to be part of it. I am too pre-occupied with core identity issues right now to crunch the numbers, but I have a hunch you're part of what doesn't add up.
I believe it is possible you are posting under one or more other fake identities here, though I am as yet unsure who. Once I figure it out, I'll be able to tell you why.
If you ARE, and I believe you to be, you're a lameass sack of sh#t. If you're not, then I'll retract it what I say and apologize. There's a promise for you. Please feel free to HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE.
In the meantime, why don't you show me that you are NOT a lameass sack of sh#t, and have the balls, like say Ammon, to BE WHO YOU ARE AND SAY WHAT YOU MEAN.
What you SAY, dude, don't mean sh#t if nobody knows WHO YOU ARE. It just makes you another whining internet pussy.
It is possible that TheMaestro, about whom this post is titled, actually might be OK. He wrote something in another post that he might be willing to forgive me some transgressions under certain conditions. That requires some sack, unlike you, Dakine.
The Maestro will show even more sack if he reveals to me, and everyone else, who he is. I do not know if he has the balls or not. It takes a helluva lot more balls to be real and stand up for your core identity than it does to climb El Cap, but make no mistake - it takes balls to do that. Or ovaries.
Except Melissa. She is a walking and talking-loudly nameless faceless one-name internet bitch with NO OVARIES. She will never have a baby, and she will never get married. No real man would take her.
Note: That was intentionally inflammatory and completedly uncalled for, as it is a personal attack based on nothing but my own opinion.
I believe she has core identity issues that include things like that above, and I will be prepared to edit or even delete these inflammatory comments above if she will quit doing it to me.
But I don't believe she will, because this WILL take ovaries, and she's been sniping at me pettily for years, the little bitch.
Arg.
Have sack.
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dakine420
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Nov 14, 2004 - 02:40pm PT
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Mr. Zabrok,
I just read your previous post and I personally have lost any thread of respect for you. You write this long winded post about the gift of forgiveness and olive branches to all your detractors, and then your post here on Attn: Maestro, is filled with venom and hatred. I just finished reading the string of posts on 'for pee on me' and it appears that the maestro finally did tell you his name and then you called him a liar. Why would I tell you my name? Because when I do, then I guess I am lying to you as well right? Seriously man, how would you ever know if it is actually his real name or not? If I told you my name, how would you know if it was real or not?
Sounds like you need some lithium based mood enhancers. If you ever come to boulder, I'll personally waive the consultation fee and get you a script for some zoloft. But you are litterally all over the board with your responses. You actually could assist in my practice by doing a case study on you. You first reach out asking people to look into what makes ptpp, pete and hope that they accept you for who you are. Then you viciously attack those like myself for not revealing who I am. I personally don't care what you choose to do, but it appears to me and probably most on ST.com that you are trying to get the record straight.
You are not only defending yourself within the climbing community with your climbing ethics and practices, but there are some pretty serious allegations regarding your unwanted advances to minors. Allegations that potentially could run deeper than you could possibly imagine. I am not siding with anyone here, but I think it is about time that YOU start adding things UP and start getting IT.
Sure, ammon, stu, maestro, rrrADAM, and others are attacking you and you do need to defend yourself. But lashing out at others under the premise that what they say is plain bullsh*t because they don't use there names is pretty lame. Sure, you might completely disgregard this because I wont give you my name. And pete, I wont even with my sack and all. The only way I will reveal myself to you is if you come for a psych eval, and like I said, I will waive your consultation fee.
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shakey legs
Trad climber
san diego ca
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Nov 14, 2004 - 03:26pm PT
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How about in the future every one use their real name or they do not get a response. P.s. Meastro I will represent you we can keep this guy tied up in court for years.
David
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Ammon
Big Wall climber
The Ditch
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Nov 14, 2004 - 05:46pm PT
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Just for the record:
I was not attacking PTPP, just telling HIM the issues I have with how he portrays himself.
Cheers!
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Nov 15, 2004 - 09:08am PT
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Thanks, Ammon. I appreciated your straight-uppedness. I do not think there is a single climber on this website who is more "straight up" than Ammon. Straight to the summit!
Attention the Maestro, there is a reason I chose this post as the clue is in its title.
And you other asshxoles Disco Stu and Dakine - Mark my words, what I have been STRiving for I have finally achieved, and it's all in the NUMBERS. Back the f+ck off now before you regret it, or you will be oncling up to a friend of mine in a way seldom seen. This is the way the process is served, and you may find yourself served with a plate of papers that are very unpalatable.
This has been YEARS in coming. You have been warned. You have 72 hours to remove all your slanderous hearsay against me, and I mean every fricking word, and after that you're toast. I'm going fishing, and when I get back, if there aren't some big frickin' changes round this place, you'll be clobbered with something the likes of which you have never seen in your life. May I suggest you start with the Canadian Assassin post? If I see some post deletions there by the time I get back, I'll back off. I expect some changes by the time I return, as a demonstration of your good faith.
I believe in good faith, and solving problems without embarrassing people, unlike you. While you fight your cowardly battles with lies, I rely on the truth. And the TRUTH is in the numbers, if you know what I'm saying.
Don't make me do this. I don't have the time, but I do have the inclination, and you have the money. Well, I don't care if you have much money or not, your climbing gear and all worldly assets would suffice.
You may think you're a nameless, faceless and dickless detractor, but you're wrong. You are merely a dickless coward. Sleep well, as you have only three nights of peace left. However if you would prefer more peace, may I suggest "edit" plus "delete"?
Mark my words - I have been STRiving for this for a darn long time. I do not wish to embarrass you for you are a fool, and if you have any brains at all, you can clean up your act very quietly, and nobody will notice this post, or understand what I'm writing. They'll just think I'm crazy and stupid.
I might look like I'm stupid and crazy, but it would be crazy of you to think I'm stupid. I'm not Donny, dude. I'm Pete Zabrok of Oakville, Ontario, Canada. I'm real trouble, and you could be in real sh|t real soon, if you "get" what I'm saying.
Mark my words.
End of rant.
Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!
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Demented
climber
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Nov 15, 2004 - 09:47am PT
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pete- it seemed like it was rrradam asking to be sued.
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Mountain Man
Trad climber
Outer Space
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Nov 15, 2004 - 09:54am PT
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Why mess up a world class rant with rationality?
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rrrADAM
climber
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Nov 15, 2004 - 10:35am PT
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Like I said in the thread linked below Pete, "I dare you" !!!
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?m=47046&f=0&b=0#msg48064
None of what I said was hearsay, as I was there to witness it, and was the recipient of the kiddie porn links you sent me via Private Message on rc.com. Furthermore... Nothing I have posted is "privilaged information" gained from my time as an Admin there, as if I could post that, this post would be longer than anything you have written... Albeit, much more interesting. Since it is "privilaged information", it is out-of-bounds for public thread.
I even asked you very simple, yet pointed, direct questions in that thread and you never even ackowledged them... True to form.
Like I said in that thread:
...my job requires me to continually have to undergo an extensive background check before I am granted "unescorted access" at operating nuclear power plants... Point is, I'm not gonna lie to the authorities and jeopodize my job. Even posting this could put me in jeopordy of being prosocuted and/or sued for slandar, if it were just a lie because I didn't like you. I am willing to go to court and swear to this, and bring what proof I can provide. If you wanna deny this, then "sac up" and call the authorites on me and charge me with slandar. If I weren't lying, you would do it in a heartbeat, as I have two houses in SoCal, so you could easily win a shitload of $$$ in Civil Court... But you CAN'T call the authorities because it's true, EH ??? Pete, I dare you.
Stop blowing smoke up our ass and passing out idle threats when your "damage control olive braches" fail to make you look like the victim. I have assets, sue me. Please, I would really appreciate it if you would accelerate the process and contact the authorities. Pedophiles are very unpopular amongst the general population in prison, and poetic justice would be a rather large inmate showing you his "weewee", forcefully. I'm calling you on your bluff. Bring it Internet Superhero. Put on your cape, clip "weewee" to it, and do it !!!
Alas, I'm SURE you don't want to jeopordize your freedom by contacting the authorities yourself about this, EH "predictable pete" ???
BTW Pete...
Someone in that thread said you showed him pics of young chicks in 2001 in Yosemite:
He personally showed my some pics of probally 13-15 y.o. girls in 2001 at curry village.
Your version of this was:
The only naughty photos I have ever shown anyone were some photos of an extremely slender and young-looking hottie. She told me I could show a few, as she was very proud of the photography. While she looked extremely young, she was 21 or 22 at the time. I have not commented on this publicly before, as I figured it was nobody's business. Anyone with half a brain can figure out who she is, anyway. She was proud enough of the photos that we submitted a few to rockclimbing.com, but the Powers-That-Be were appalled, and therein began the rumours.
Untrue if his date is even close, as the pics you refer to were taken in the Fall of 2002 in Arizona, and uploaded a few months later. The pics you uploaded to the site are dated you dummy, so this shows just another one of your lies in an attempt to twist the truth.
To quote you Pete:
"...the NUMBERS don't add up."
(Note-Anyone can brows his photos at rc.com to verify this... Look for the silhouettes.)
I say what I mean, and mean what I say,
Adam S. Bingel (rrrADAM)
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Donny Quijote
Sport climber
Boulder F'n CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 15, 2004 - 01:22pm PT
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Hey you bastards....TAKE IT OUTSIDE!..this thread is about me...ME!! ME I TELL YOU!!! You already have your own thread full of anger and discontent. This is MY GODDAM THREAD...and here we'd like to foster an appetite for PEACE, LOVE AND THE AMERICAN JUDICIAL SYSTEM!
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Dave Buchanan
Gym climber
Marin Hot Tub Country
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Nov 15, 2004 - 02:02pm PT
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Hi Adam -- long time no speak. Thanks again for taking the time to call me (way back when) and
giving me your version of events. People were wondering why I was "sticking up" for Pete.
In fact, if you check the Canadian Assassin thread, I wasn't exactly complimentary
in my early posts. I thought (and still do) think he's a kook. But based on the information
that I have, here's why I have to respectfully oppose the kiddie porn allegations against him.
The 15 year old girl should have taken screen shots of Pete's remarks, or at the
very least copied and pasted what he wrote. It's rather inconvenient (or convenient)
that she has forever disappeared without a trace--or any contact info.
What Pete told me he wrote doesn't match other versions I have heard.
If I remember correctly you were actually involved in that chat yourself.
It would make your case so much stronger if you had taken screenshots
or had archived the chat somehow. Anyone else who was in that chat could-have and
should-have as well. It's too bad they didn't -- it's pretty hard to dispute a screenshot!
Furthermore, In the PM where he allegedly sent you the kiddie porn links, what happened to the PM?
If I remember correctly, you said you deleted it immediately.
However, this seems odd, especially if you went straight to the FBI.
Instead of a he-said/she-said situation, you could have furnished them with some direct proof.
If you were worried about having porn-links on your computer,
you would have nothing to worry about, since you had already contacted the FBI.
Also, regarding the point about the date that the photos were shown in Curry Village, you are
quoting a less-than reputable source when you say: "someone in that thread".
Someone In That Thread is just another anonymous poster. This is heresay of the worst kind.
So, with all the Pete-slamming, I would say that much of it appears to be warranted.
But as far as the child-porn stuff goes, I have to give him the benefit of doubt,
since you failed to capture or document any of it. It would have been really easy for you to have done so.
So while I'm not calling you a liar, I would venture to say that it doesn't pass
the muster of *beyond a reasonable doubt*.
It really is a case of he-said/she-said. And a bunch of people repeating it
doesn't make it any more valid; there are way too many people passing
this info around as the gospel.
Again, Pete might indeed be an idiot, kook, and danger to the climbing community.
But I simply do not believe the child-porn stuff based on what's been presented.
(by a single person whose integrity has been the subject of much public debate)
I know for a fact that pete comes-on to a whole bunch of grown women;
sometimes successfully -- most times not. But that's another story.
(Wow, I just managed to make a fairly long post without mentioning internet bitches!)
Dave
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peeonmepete
Social climber
Gayville
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Nov 16, 2004 - 07:20am PT
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does anyone need a lawyer?
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dakine420
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Nov 16, 2004 - 11:47am PT
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Pete, I am just going to say this once so listen very carefully,
GO F*CK YOURSELF!
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Donny Quijote
Sport climber
Boulder F'n CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2004 - 05:56pm PT
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Yeah, you'll all know JUST how the law works pretty soon.
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yo
climber
NOT Fresno
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Nov 16, 2004 - 06:23pm PT
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Jefferson is Paco!!!! And thus Donny. And thus Fish as well, apparently.
I can't wait for Pete to get off his fishin trip. Can't wait!
Round and round we go!
And if I remember right from seventh grade, it's "Como esta usted."
You're not Paco. Probably some Mormon missionary or sumthin.
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Donny Quijote
Sport climber
Boulder F'n CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2004 - 06:43pm PT
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Hey....you lying Jeffersonian Spaniard. Don't try that kiddie porn with me. I'll sue your ass into the Convict Discontinuity....whatever depth that happens to be at your location.
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Matt
Trad climber
San Francisco
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Nov 16, 2004 - 06:48pm PT
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wow- i am on some bad acid!
maybe if i sart drinking it will mellow me out some...
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Mountain Man
Trad climber
Outer Space
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Nov 16, 2004 - 06:58pm PT
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Watch the brown acid
Drink heavily
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mark
climber
yosemite
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Nov 17, 2004 - 09:49am PT
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Ok Pete....I give you some credit. But not much. You’re REALLY fish’n on this one. But I give you credit. Disco Stu is Mark Stroeve. As you were trying to be soooo clever. Its nice to see that you took the time to track down IP addresses...But let me fill you into some things here while you try to pound your chest at me.
1. The only person you could ever sue would be Adam Bingle. You personally showed me the pics at curry village when you were racking up for lunar eclipse. You had boxes @ camp5 as well in the lot. You showing me the pics and me calling you, a pervert is my OPINION. Not slander. Anyone who would show me pics like that is in the same category in my book. It was in Aug. 2001 that you showed me those pics. So you have met me Pete.... we also meet at the base of Gulf Stream, and Eagles Way. Gave you a ride as well back to curry village before you started Eagles Way. Had bear boxes almost next to each other in CV. Spent time listening to your whinny voice with Wess in CV as well. Again my opinion.
2. My Opinion of you clogging up routes, trashing El Cap, being a whinny little wall bitch is my own opinion as well. Again Im entitled to my perspective of you. All of which if they let you into the country next year we can talk about. My problem with you is personal. Something that we will probably never resolve in our life. You trying to sue me over those opinions are as valid as Melissa suing you over the same thing that you wrote about her in the thread. Do you really want to go there Pete?
3. Adam Bingle is the only person again you could ever possibly sue. The comments that he made were Slander and he is willing to take you to court to prove them. Or disprove them in your train of thought. But since you already were removed from a climbing site for allegedly making inappropriate comments to a young female, your credibility doesn’t have a lot of merit to stand on. But again he’s willing to gamble his job, and two houses. What’s your gamble Pete? He’s the one not f*#k’n around. I am.
4. My opinion of you is just that. The thread was started by me telling you to piss off. You bag on some girl for her ascent of the Zodiac. But not someone else. So my issue with you Pete is a personal one. Your lack of being humble and just an out right ass to a majority of the community is B.S. But Im not better in that way. I let you get to me finally. And I should do what everyone should do...ignore you. What came of the rest of it are your peers and the community. Again it’s their opinion. As well as them calling you all the names they do and whatever else. But you can’t sue anyone for their opinion Pete. Again go back to #3.
5. If you’re really intent on pursuing this Pete, make 100% sure that you will win beyond a shadow of a doubt against Adam. If you want to try me then again there are plenty of people that would come forward. Through a series of a supena and such they would have to testify to the allegations that have been made against you. And since my climbing partner is a prosecuting attorney in the town that I live then no worries for me. If you pursue it and it costs me time from work you will pay restitution for my time. Which what I do for a living, Im not cheap. I stated my opinion of you. Nothing more, nothing less. No different from the opinion you have of Melissa.
6. You should have listened to Erik Kohl when he told you to bail Pete. I have no intentions of editing any posts, nor deleting them. I have made copies of what has been written if you really want to go there. But again refer to #3 and #5. I have stated my personal opinion of you. You trying to sue me over that is again as valid as Melissa suing you over your comments. People have their opinion’s Pete. It seems to be more negative than positive. The thread will fade in time. But Im entitled to my opinions. The sad thing is that you wouldn’t let go. rrrAdam called your bluff. You’re just trying to fish for me. Which Pete I hope you had a good fishing trip. But the only thing that has changed is me telling you who I am. I don’t give a crap. You are a very small fish in this ocean.
So my furry little foreigner you should put in a piece, lower off, and climb something else. The thread has gotten boring after what some people wrote.
 Mark
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Donny Quijote
Sport climber
Boulder F'n CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2004 - 12:49pm PT
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Haw....just joshin'. I KNEW some dork would Google that. It's actually the Conrad Discontinuity.
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Demented
climber
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Nov 17, 2004 - 01:16pm PT
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it's the brown acid. they're putting it in our water
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Michelle
Boulder climber
below the spraydar
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Nov 27, 2004 - 10:58am PT
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a little late here, but, here goes. I'll settle perhaps one question re: "And the whole Melissa/Michelle thing."
Melissa is blond, I am not. Melissa is a nice person and I am not too nice. Melissa actually climbs, while I spend more time bushwhacking and complaining about it (or drinking) searching for crags with nothing harder than a 5.8. I doubt Melissa would resort to violence against Pete even if she wasn't busy climbing; I, on the other hand, WOULD provide the public service (for a fee, of course) except that I'm too busy avoiding him. Melissa has done noteable classics in the Valley this year, I have done, uhm, I think maybe one, oh, maybe two, and it wasn't that notable and a bunch of new climbs on Sonora Pass (you guessed it, no harder than 5.8). I believe Melissa strives to acheive goals and meets most of them, where I strive to become content with my climbing mediocrity since I'm lazy.
etc. I now have to go to work in retail hell, and I hope Melissa is out doing something fun!
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Mountain Man
Trad climber
Outer Space
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Nov 27, 2004 - 11:08am PT
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Climbing 5.8 and proud of it
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Spinmaster K-Rove
Trad climber
Stuck Under the Kor Roof
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Nov 27, 2004 - 07:20pm PT
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"25 of the 42 presidents were lawyers. Surely, there are more important things to be disstressed about... like what kinda climber Scott Peterson would be "
This was definitely the best post in this whole stupid thread :)
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Holdplease2
Trad climber
All over
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Nov 27, 2004 - 07:30pm PT
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For the record: Melissa is not that nice.
Additionally, I have personally witnessed Melissa bushwacking, drinking, complaining (well, not really), and hanging out at crags with nothing harder than 5.8. All in the same day.
Just goes to show, Michelle, she is far more accomplished than most of us would imagine. One must be careful not to underestimate her prowess at those activities so central to the valley climbing ethic.
As far as violence towards PtPP goes, well, if he catches her on a good day his moniker will change to "Pass the Penis Parts Pete". Can't imagine if he catches her on a bad day. Shudder. ;)
-Kate.
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TheMaestro
Big Wall climber
Yosemite
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Nov 27, 2004 - 10:10pm PT
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I Eli M. Hughes 'aka TheMaestro' must agree that this is one of the funniest threads posted here on SuperTocos. Not because it is about me, rather that it is shear lunacy the responses that it created.
As I have previously stated, I do flame other people on this site. Some people I flame I know to be climbers, others I know to be poser climbers. Regardless though, I feel that all true climbers are very strong minded and willed individuals. Which is why there is so much bickering that occurs here. Is it bad? I don't think so. I am sure most find it all somewhat amusing. However, there are some issues that have been raised here which require some thought. I am not refering to the political threads, but I am refering to issues related to the ethics of climbing and how we choose to climb.
I admit that I do get pleasure from some of what I write because I know it will illicit a response from those who I direct it towards perhaps I am a fool for doing so, but atleast I am honest to admit it.
So, for donny, kohl, flash, and ptpp, hopefully we can all see each other in court next summer. I choose the valley to be our court room and then we can hash all this sh*t out. Two of you I know will be there and the other two wont. They will be reading their stupid climbing mags working on their boulder problems.
So there you have it pete and eric. Be the men you say you want to be and not the chump stains you make yourselves to be.
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Michelle
Boulder climber
below the spraydar
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Kate, I stand corrected.
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James
Gym climber
City by the Bay
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I would like to know if I am a poser or a "real" climber according to the other wankers on supertopo. My vote is for "poser" .
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rrrADAM
climber
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re: http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?m=47046&f=0&b=0#msg48064
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http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?m=47168&f=0&b=0#msg48124
Why is it that after almost 2 months, you have not taken the action you threatened when I called your bluff Pete ??? I have many assets, and if what I am saying is untrue, then you would have an open and shut case, and could profit hansomley, and at the same time stick it to me. But alas... As I stated in the above linked thread, you would never take this to court.
Since you say, privately, that I am full of sh!t, but have NEVER addressed a single issue publically that I have raised to you directly regarding any of this (see above thread), but instead replaced your hard drive a couple weeks ago [go figure] (do I need to link to the thread where you refer to changing out your hard drive?)... How about this ??? I know some people who would be very interested in obtaining your hard drive, and since you don't need it any more, and maintain, privately, that I am full of sh!t, why not prove me wrong once and for all publically ??? I don't even want to be directly involved, and I will pay the cost for you to send it to Jody COD, and I will contact him with the info on what agency to contact. Since I am not high on his "favorite peoples' list", he can be viewed as an impartial person in regards to this. See, I trust that Jody's job in Law Enforcement will preclude him from allowing any evidence to be tampered with (hence the reason why I am not directly involved in it going to the authorities), and I also trust that he would not divulge any information that could obstruct any investigation... Hell, my previous post caused you to change out your hard drive, as you aren't stupid, so not gonna get anymore info out of me that would enable you to cover any tracks further. But let me guess... You accidently ran over your old hard drive with a large magnetic wheel, then accidently dropped it in Lake Ontario, right ??? Please prove me wrong and offer up your hard drive, at my cost, as why would you not want to prove me wrong Pete ???
(Note... Jody, if you are unhappy that I volunteered you for this, I am sorry, and will find another person, but you are the best choice for a myriad of reasons, as this could be very "life changing" for Pete.)
Maybe now that you have destroyed some of the evidence by replacing your hard drive, your balls may be larger and you might be willing to take me up on my challange to you. GREAT !!! May I suggest you contact Richard (drkodos), as I believe he is an attorney, and since I am also on his sh!t list, what better way for the both of you to stick it to me, by holding me to my words in a cort of law by suing me... Think about it, you two could bring about my finacial ruin, as well as pulically stick it to me. Since you have destroyed the hard drive, you have nothing to worry about, right ??? We both know you didn't send any links to kiddie porn to anyone else, right [wink] ??? And even if you did, they would be more than willing to perjure themselves when subpoenaed to cover for you, right [wink] ???
Richard, I'm sure you'll read this, so PLEASE talk him into taking this to court... You can make a hefty sum and stick it to me.
To those screeming "BS, show some proof !!!"...
Ask yourself, "If any of this is true, and he is now aware that I have gone to the athourities due to my above linked post, would it not make sense that he get rid of his hard drive ???" My post alone tipped him off that the authorities have been contacted, and he is acting accordingly to get rid of what evidence he can... He knows me, and he knows I am not lying, in regards to either my actions, nor his... Can't blame him for getting rid of the disc drive, gotta blame my big mouth for that. Also ask yourself, if this is ture, what is more important... Him going to jail for it, or proving it to your liking on the net for the purpose of drama, but allowing him to destroy/obstruct even more in making any details public ??? Ask yourself, if this is true, his getting rid of the hard drive makes it harder to put him in jail, as that would be the easiest nail in his coffin, right ??? Honestly, I regret even posting my initial details of what happened, and that I contacted the authorities, as this has spurred him to get rid of the hard drive. I would gladly have continued to have taken a public beating in return for him not to get rid of the hard drive, as that one item alone is the simplest way to convict him. Think about it.
Side notes...
I laughed when I read about how you posted about how C-Mac should ban people from st.com, as I seem to remember you saying that nobody should ever be banned, and that we (rc.com) were sacless for doing so when Stu was banned a couple years ago ( I can provide the link to your replies), as he was your ally. Same with Lox, as those who gave your detractors a hard time were good in your book, and you were quick to encourage them, and even give them ammo... They became good little "tools" for you to use. Just as you think Richard is the best thing since sliced bread, as it takes the heat off you, and he happens to try to discredit those you don't like. Point is... You want those who are on your side to have a LOUD voice, but those who are not to be silenced, ridiculed, and/or discredited. Just like when you were on rc.com, I am sure that you are/were the most prolific lobbier to C-Mac for deleting, moderating, and editing posts in which you the one on the bottom... But when you are on top, and it is others such as myself or any other "distractors" who are on the bottom, you want it to stay, encourage your friends to pile on, and even "bump" threads to keep them on top. Does anyone actually not see this ??? If not, then watch as all of a sudden many old threads get replies to bump them up, and push this one to the bottom without not even a reply from him regarding anything I have said [wink]. Ever notice when he can make someone attacking him look stupid, he doesn't hesitate ??? He sure beat the IP addresses, multiple IDs, other climbers, and even dividing the site into seperate forums to death, but never even once replied to my direct questions posed to him in the above linked thread. He was even quick to post all kinds of crap about me in one of those same threads, but then disappeared when I replied with details. Go figure. What action will Pete take ??? That's easy... 1)Send an email to C-Mac asking that this post be deleted, moderated, or edited, and that I be banned to protect his "good name". 2)Email his "tools" to help him out; they'll believe anything. 3)Email those he'd also sent the kiddie-porn links to and ask them if they know me and/or told me that they'd gotten them also, and if they'll lie when subpoenaed, or at least plead the 5th. 4)Dread the time this is on the first 2 pages of this site. Thank god I'm not Pete, or I'd be bumping all the threads that rip him apart and call attention to this... Hell, he'd have created another thread with all the details compiled into it, with a better title to draw more attention to it, just as he had done on rc.com for years... I can care less, and I'm sure he's glad that at least all this is discussed in a thread entitled: "Attn: "TheMaestro", I'll see you in court." posted by another user, as it will get much less attention that way.
And I only have one ID here at st.com, and one at rc.com... I had however created another one years ago when PTPP was flogged by the users of the site to use to inject a bit of humor... That was 'dr_piton', and I even PMd Pete with it telling him it was me, and he thought it was brilliant humor.
I look forward to "your day in court Pete".
Now feel free to flame away, as you should be able to tell by the amount of posts/replies I have made here, I have become very apathetic regarding all the drama, so I don't read it daily (or hourly as the current drama queens do)... Do a little research and you'll find that I haven't run much on rc.com in a year or so, and have not even been an Admin for months. I have a new son now, so my priorites have changed a bit, and internet drama is pretty near the bottom of the list, so I don't even get drawn into the drama over there much anymore either... I just have have the desire nor the time to care for it much anymore. Pete Zabrok being a pedophile and a predator still matters to me though, and I will do my best to see that he goes to jail as a result. Most know the truth about me, and even many here on this site who know me IRL, and those who are into stirring the pot don't care about the truth, so any reply would be stupid, as all they wanna do is sling mud, not truth, as truth and reason do not make for good drama.
Food for thought...
Just think about it... 20 years from now, some of our own offspring will google our names (how many of us have done this with our parents to see what is there?) and find that some of us were just 40 something jerks whose ego's were so fragile that we just had to show our asses where ever we went, as we could never be wrong. They will conclude that some of us were just RAVING LUNATICS, and will certainly be proud.
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WBraun
climber
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Holy schit are these guys for real? People in a real psycho ward aren’t even this bad. What’s even worst is I’m reading this bullsh#t. Keep it up boys….and drain your brains.....
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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You'd think they're on drugs... or need to be... kinda goes with your psycho ward idea... Thorazine anyone? Shocking, most shocking.
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Lambone
Ice climber
Ashland, Or
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hahahaha
wow, that rrradam guy sure sets a whole new standard for LOSER that may be hard for anyone around here to top.
keep it up insane-boy, you narcasitic sportclimbin' pansy.
look at this guy...how many photos of your rippleing back muscles do you really need to show the world?
http://rockclimbing.com/users/list.php?UserID=rrradam
the fact that you describe yourself in the 3rd person in your photo comments proves the claim that you are looney tunes. forget your meds lately?
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bulgingpuke
Trad climber
cayucos california
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Ya thats pretty lame...
so where did TheMinistrone go anyway? i miss his constant "lets flame tyler" attacks lol that was actually fun!
:-)
~TY~
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Matt
Trad climber
San Francisco
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Jan 10, 2005 - 12:51am PT
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superPORNO.com
that's a different site, or so i thought.
this could be a real timesaver for a few of the uglier climbers i know (btw- if you are wondering if i am talking about you, i am probably talking about you...)
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asdfasdf
climber
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Jan 10, 2005 - 01:25am PT
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rrrAdam = loser on any website.
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Donny... the OHHH!- Riginal
Sport climber
C:porn
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Sep 23, 2014 - 05:21pm PT
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Don't get too comfortable "TheMaestro", this lawsuit is still pending.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Sep 23, 2014 - 05:35pm PT
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What a gem of a thread!
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Sep 23, 2014 - 05:44pm PT
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As a newcomer to ST (Nov. 2008) ------I am impressed with this thread. Schist!
They had some-fun here in the old days.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Sep 23, 2014 - 08:10pm PT
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How do you sue a pseudonym?
Obviously, one files a lawpseud!
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Da_Dweeb
climber
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Sep 24, 2014 - 02:50am PT
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HEY GUYS!
What's going on in THIS threa~*
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