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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 27, 2007 - 09:23pm PT
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OK its not a Randy Weaver special. Its 100% legal and if you want to see what one looks like (but not the proper way to use it) see Three Kings.
Its that burly revolver with the 3" long cylinder, and since its chamber accepts the .45LC and the barrel is rifled it qualifies as a legit.
But fill 'er up with five rounds of the Winchester magnum buck loads and firing double action (and easily one handed!!!) it'll spit out 25 pieces of 000 buckshot in less time that it takes to get 25 rounds out of an MP5 with two hands.
Not as accurate beyond point blank.
Slower to reload (the sixth "shot" is when you throw it).
But many thousands $ less (not to mention headaches) than an SMG.
Thing is, at well over 3 pounds, its more of a below-the-counter gun or a vehicle dedicated beast dispatcher (birdshot for snakes, .45LC for car maimed animal) and distress signaler.
So rather than carried this one has been sitting on the shelf or in the case for years.
The same niche is more effectively covered by my derringer, contender, or .45
But its a helluva conversation piece, more cylinder than frame!
(Plus if you dont tell people its a shotgun and put a balloon on a stick 50 yards out you can hold it up and then pop it after pulling down a blindfold! Think about using a slug the first time, deliberately missing, and then wagering on another try....)
Called by the manufacturer (MIL Inc of Piney Flats, TN) the Thunder Five, it is my only revolver with a safety lever!
I bought it for just under a half grand and will sell it to a climber for $250 or a yahoo for three bills. No scratches, light cylinder and barrel wear, fired about 400x.
Also have too many high end riot guns if somebody's headed to bear country.
email me
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WBraun
climber
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Jul 27, 2007 - 09:26pm PT
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I need one
But it's got to be sawed-off.
For my next big job at the bank.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 27, 2007 - 09:28pm PT
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The barrel is already down to 2" !!!!
I suppose you could shave another 1/4".
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jul 27, 2007 - 09:33pm PT
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I gotta come to a SushiFest and check out your hardware, Ron. Er..., I mean your firearms.
Sounds like a unique gun. I'm shopping for 45 ACP's though. Prolly go Kimber. You were saying Sig's are tasty, weren't you? The Kimber is just a beautiful piece of American hardware though, ya know?
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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Jul 27, 2007 - 09:35pm PT
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I'll bet it would chamber (and fire at least once) a .454 Casul.
I wouldn't want to try it myself, but I would be interested in seeing it done.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jul 27, 2007 - 09:39pm PT
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Could always string fire it, Chaz.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 27, 2007 - 09:39pm PT
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Actually Chaz they made two calibres/gauges. The other was a .45-70
That enough for you??!!!!!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 27, 2007 - 09:43pm PT
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Was just dry firing (with snapcap) one of the new Kimber rifles at Dixie Gun today.
Laminated stock, stainless fluted bull barrel.
More than a grand without a scope, but sweeeeeeeeeeeeet.
Barely got out the door without one.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jul 27, 2007 - 09:49pm PT
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yep. they're known for their handguns, but you gotta love a company that puts that much love into a gun/rifle.
ATTENTION TO DETAIL, BABY...YEAH!
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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Jul 27, 2007 - 10:38pm PT
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I couldn't imagine .45-70 in something that small.
I know they make Derringers in .45-70, but making them is one thing. Selling them is another.
And actually shooting one is all together crazy.
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turd
climber
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Jul 27, 2007 - 10:48pm PT
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Ha!
http://www.thunder5.com/docs1.html
I had a friend who owned one of them there precision-engineered hand-shotguns.
He brought it over to my house to show it to a few of us, and the quote of the evening was "what the hell is that, a f*#king flare gun?"
I was wondering who bought the other one.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Jul 27, 2007 - 11:04pm PT
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When it's on a rest day, will it double up as OW pro?!?
...or can I just intimidate my way up them phat bastards wit' it?
Berg Heil & Bench Rest...
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Ouch!
climber
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Jul 27, 2007 - 11:47pm PT
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45-70 usta mean .45 cal with 70 gr of black powder. Lots of guns would handle that. Don't know what they are charging them with these days.
Friend gave me a 45-70 cartridge that he took from the remains of a steamboat that wrecked just below Ft. Peck, Montana on it's way to supply Terry and Custer's columns. He caught the river low and used a metal detector. Found all kinds of goodies.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 27, 2007 - 11:53pm PT
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Yeah.
We talked about that already.
.45-70 was one of the few cartridges to successfully transition from black to smokeless powder after 1896.
It packs plenty of punch.
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turd
climber
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Jul 27, 2007 - 11:57pm PT
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Momentary hijack:
Ouch -
That's cool. Related subject - Did you know they still haven't found the metal boat frame that Lewis and Clark abandoned near Great Falls? It's almost certainly still there....Wouldn't that be cool to find.
Now back to "Weird Guns" on A&E.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 28, 2007 - 12:13am PT
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Speaking of weird guns AND Lewis and Clark anybody know what they carried and made good use of for the stew pot?
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turd
climber
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Jul 28, 2007 - 12:18am PT
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I'm guessing you're talking about the air rifle.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 28, 2007 - 12:21am PT
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Bingo!
OK, tougher, what were Meriwether Lewis' last words and when and to who?
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turd
climber
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Jul 28, 2007 - 12:49am PT
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Despite what my kids say, I wasn't there. But everything I've read says Lewis said,
"I am no coward, but I am so strong. So hard to die." To Mrs. Grinder at the Grinder house.
Edit: Ron, have you ever seen Lewis and Clark by Ken Burns?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 28, 2007 - 01:02am PT
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Early 10/11/1809 in the Natchez Trace to Priscilla Grinder (through a locked door), "O madam! Give me some water and heal my wounds."
(source; the Dale L. Walker book)
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 28, 2007 - 01:03am PT
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negative
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Ouch!
climber
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Jul 28, 2007 - 01:04am PT
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I bet the guys had some puckerstring moments trying to stop some of those big Grizz with the rifles they had on the L & C Expedition. I suppose they lined up and fired in bunches.
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turd
climber
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Jul 28, 2007 - 01:05am PT
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Shit!
I've heard that one too and other variations such as,
"oh what a sweet evening"
"clark will be along soon"
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 28, 2007 - 02:46am PT
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Didn't Jeb Stuart carry two Lematts?
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Jul 28, 2007 - 06:43am PT
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What are we talking about here?
Perazzi?
Or garbage?
I don't want to face a Federal Penile Facility, unless it's the best.
EDIT: To the Cheney-Listening-Cops - I was joking; I don't want a shotgun of any sort, for any reason, including, shooting my lawyer in the face.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 28, 2007 - 10:56am PT
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Awesome weapon AC. You can see why the cavalry liked 'em.
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Quaken
Trad climber
Las Vegas
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Jul 28, 2007 - 02:07pm PT
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Bluering,
Kimber Pro Carry..can't go wrong
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yo
climber
The Eye of the Snail
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Jul 28, 2007 - 02:47pm PT
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 28, 2007 - 02:54pm PT
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Yo, is that you on the far left?
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yo
climber
The Eye of the Snail
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Jul 28, 2007 - 03:01pm PT
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Yep and here's you on the left.
Crap I love that movie.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 28, 2007 - 03:33pm PT
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A question mark in a box?
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T Moses
Trad climber
Paso Robles
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Jul 28, 2007 - 06:51pm PT
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Damn it! Not legal in CA.
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LccMonkey
Trad climber
utah
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Jul 28, 2007 - 09:26pm PT
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What are you asking for it Ron. I just might take it.
Also what do you think about the AK-47?
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M.Tea
Trad climber
Utah
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Jul 28, 2007 - 09:33pm PT
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"Good, bad...I'm the guy with the gun""-Ash.
Classic.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 28, 2007 - 09:40pm PT
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Price stated in OP.
AK 47 what?
I mean REALLY!
Experts pretty much agree its the #1 assault rifle. Specially in third world areas where rifle cleaning and maintenance are less assiduously practiced, and ammo less uniform.
Personally I like the way the 7.62X39mm sounds more than it performs so my favorite "kalashnikov" is the Galil in 5.56mm
If I want more energy I'd go to 7.62X51mm
in an M14 or HK 91.
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M.Tea
Trad climber
Utah
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Jul 28, 2007 - 09:48pm PT
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Hey Ron
Ever shoot one of these Kalash variants? Opinion?
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LccMonkey
Trad climber
utah
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Jul 29, 2007 - 12:37am PT
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Check out the new 223 XCR from Robinson Arms in SLC.
Conversions for 308 and 7.62 x 39 comming soon.
Robarm.com
This should replace the AR 15.
The vepr is one of the best ak versions.
monkey
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mdavid
Big Wall climber
CA, CO, TX
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Jul 29, 2007 - 09:02am PT
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nice, but i don't have a void waiting for her
CCarry KelTec 380
Carry SigGSR 45
Home VangComp 870
Problem Steyr Scout
the 410 from a pistol would make for great rattlesnake quieting
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M.Tea
Trad climber
Utah
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Jul 29, 2007 - 10:28am PT
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If the XCR goes the way of other Robarms products...I'll wait and see. Can you even get them yet?...or is everyone waiting, as usual for Robarms product?
Can you believe the price of 5.56?
wow..I mean, I know there is a war on...but jeez.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 29, 2007 - 10:55am PT
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I just paid $.26/rd for a case of Wolf.
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M.Tea
Trad climber
Utah
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Jul 29, 2007 - 10:58am PT
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Where? good price!
Gotta love Wolf...if your gun can eat it!
Another beauty of a good AK variant
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wildone
climber
Where you want to be
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Jul 29, 2007 - 11:30am PT
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AC- Was that a Superposed, Athena grade on the first page?
I've shot skeet with one..pretty beautiful.
I like dsa fals myself in 7.62.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 29, 2007 - 12:00pm PT
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$.26/rd SUCKS!!!!!
I used to get HSM for eleven.
I'm working on a multi-gun crank operated platform and now it costs over $50 just to load up a couple of betamags!
My FAL seems to kick harder with the same rounds as the M14 or HK91.
Part of the weight trade off I guess, but at $7/ea you can't beat the price for magazines. Don'tcha love these gumbies that spend $ on a well made box feed and then only own 2 or 3 clips?
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M.Tea
Trad climber
Utah
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Jul 29, 2007 - 12:12pm PT
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good for right now....at least it isn't brass...or was it?
"I'm working on a multi-gun crank operated platform"
What are you mounting on it? Sounds cool.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 29, 2007 - 12:18pm PT
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HSM was brass factory reloads.
2 betamags doesn't make guessing hard.
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M.Tea
Trad climber
Utah
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Jul 29, 2007 - 12:23pm PT
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we need to see a pic of that rig when finished.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 29, 2007 - 12:56pm PT
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Back when I bought my 181 series in stainless for $169.95 it was a lot of chuck for the buck.
Still have new in box Ruger factory 20 and 30 rd clips which during the CB ban could have fetched well into three figures.
In '82 I brought mine to Amherst and my dad thought it was cute.
Then I field stripped it and reassembled it in under four minutes blindfolded and he was impressed.
Then we went plinking and he was REALLY impressed.
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Ouch!
climber
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Jul 29, 2007 - 06:01pm PT
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Fun guns. If I stuffed the cylinders of the .44 with all the FFF or Pyrodex they would hold and still allow a 240 gr. bullet to squeeze in, I could make a buck do the chicken dance at 60 yards.
I like that little .36 Navy. It's cute.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 29, 2007 - 07:34pm PT
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mdavid,
how is that VangComp? Does it reduce recoil any?
I just put one of the new Knoxx SpecOps stocks onto my new 500 (with a ramming brake) but haven't tried it yet.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Jul 29, 2007 - 07:50pm PT
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Do you *really* have a Derringer?? I would love to see a pic!
I am Canadian. Handguns are supposedly outlawed up here.
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LccMonkey
Trad climber
utah
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Jul 29, 2007 - 10:00pm PT
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250??
Would you take 225?
mike
asca
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wildone
climber
Where you want to be
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Jul 29, 2007 - 10:17pm PT
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AC- I like the ruger red label myself, or some of the Bennelli over unders. My pop's friend had an Bennelli m4
. Whoa. 8 rounds of 3 inch mag by the time the first shell bounced.Load the first round with the pump, all the rest are select-fire, so you get the sound of the pump to stop someone before you have to use it, and you don't have to take your hands off the controls .
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 29, 2007 - 10:24pm PT
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Monkey, I'll give you the yahoo price.
How long is the barrel on that Benelli?
(7 X 3" plus spring space,..???)
My M3 Super 90 is an awesome beast, also dual mode.
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