Yosemite Facelift - A Modest Proposal (Part II)

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Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 8, 2007 - 11:26pm PT
A continuation of the recent thread.

Attendance summary so far (? = maybe):

paganmonkeyboy
khanom
Fluoride
Jaybro?
A. Crowley
Roger Brown
stzzo
Tuolumne Penguin
Ron Gomez
BoKu +2
bluering?
nature
K-man
Zander?
nita?
EKat?
Mark B?
Kurt & Elaina Smith
Ed Hartouni
Gary Carpenter?
Mike?
slakkey?
jstan
healyje
Quaken
10b4me?
Mighty Hiker

By my count, 27, including the maybes. A good start. There are a few others who are too shy to post publicly, but will be there. As we have up to 100 places at Yellow Pines on the 25th, there's still room.

Now we just have to figure out what we're doing as a group. Camping at Yellow Pines on the 25th/26th, and a sushifest (or equivalent) and party on the evening of the 25th, seem set. Hopefully Chicken Skinner can post something about camping the other nights, and general arrangements for those helping at the Facelift (park admission, camping). Then there's possible pancake breakfasts one or more other mornings. Doing Facelift projects in smaller SuperTopo groups also makes sense. What else?
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 8, 2007 - 11:27pm PT
Chicken Skinner's report on camping:

Hello everybody,

The camping situation is as follows. September 25th we have the whole Yellow Pines Campground for 100 people. September 26-30 we have Yellow Pines sites A and B for 50 people. September 26-30 we have 6 sites in Camp 4 for 56 people though I don't have the site numbers yet. I should have this information soon.

If you are going to commit, email me and I will put you on the list and verify your site number. I need to have your name, which nights you want to stay, which campground you prefer, and how many in your party. I am going to be booking the sites, please make sure I have this information, it is a lot easier on me. The first people to do this will get the sites until they have filled up. My email is yager@inreach.com.

Lets hear it for Mighty Hiker. Thanks for your help Anders.

Ken
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 8, 2007 - 11:36pm PT
Now, or sometime very soon, may be a good time to finalize your plans. Arrange time off school or work, travel arrangements, and so on. Once you've done that, you can commit and confirm, plus you can contact Ken, and he can allocate you camping.

Assume that there'll be some sort of big SuperTopian (and wannabes) get together on the evening of Tuesday September 25th. It will help if a few key people are there early to organize. I'll probably get to the Valley the previous Sunday, or earlier.

I suggest that the other SuperTopo group event at the Facelift be a breakfast on Sunday September 30th. A chance for those who can only come for the weekend to get together with everyone, and for us all to recharge before the last day.

I'm totally open to other ideas, e.g. it sounds like we can camp together in groups for much of the time, though perhaps not a single large group - at least, as long as we're helping! :-) We can certainly do projects for Ken together - we probably have knowledge and skills that few of his volunteers will have. We can do other breakfasts. The important thing is to get together, help Ken but not complicate things for him, and have fun.

I draw the line at group calisthenics.
nature

climber
Flagstaff, AZ
Jul 8, 2007 - 11:40pm PT
Gimme a break!?!?! Finalize plans!??!?!?!? Nooooooooooow?

I'll decide on some dates. I'll email ken. It'll be easy.

Thanks for the post, Anders.

Not sure how to do sushi on the 25th or beyond but we'll figure it out. It mostly takes money.
Standing Strong

Trad climber
making desirable discoveries by accident
Jul 9, 2007 - 02:55am PT
i don't FEEL like waiting until september. i wish it was right now!
nature

climber
Flagstaff, AZ
Jul 9, 2007 - 02:05pm PT
stzzo - really the only way to make it work for me is donations before hand. As many have probably noticed the location of the sushifests has not been disclosed for this reason. I obviously don't have this luxury but I'll just have to go for it and see what happens. I certiainly will bring in extra fish just in case. Worse case scenario is there's extra and we have to eat sushi two nights.
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 9, 2007 - 05:25pm PT
Perhaps one project would be for some climbers to hike to the base of the Half Dome cables, and clean up around and below that point. There must be a lot of stuff that people have dropped and thrown, although some knowledge of the location, and technical equipment and skills, would be needed. (Plus hard hats, and a spotter...)

Doug has a sound point. It is an enormous investment for him to put on a sushi event, of time for organization, and for materials. It can't be spur of the moment. It's very important that he recover his costs, and make something on top of it. We may need to set an amount payable for those interested in sushi, and a date for payment, then go from there. If there's enough interest, then those who've paid will eat. If there's any leftovers, others can. We can have BBQ apparatus to provide for those who just show up.

With luck, Ron, Brutus, and Nurse Ratchet will be there to help.

My guess is that we'd need 20 - 25 people to make sushi worth the effort.

I suspect we may have a fair number of people who just show up, and given that it may be simpler to just do a big BBQ.
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 10, 2007 - 10:05pm PT
The historical thread reminded me to post something - the Facelift will be another sort of SuperTopo campfire, but the real kind. We can get together and swap stories and lies, in person. weschrist can talk with some legends for real, and if he gets in some climbing, perhaps get a better understanding of what it's all about. Perhaps some of the legends will be there.

It would be fun to meet Fattrad, too - although Marquess of Queensbury rules may need to be used. :-) And LEB. And so many others, posters, lurkers, legends, wannabes.

You'd have fun, meet new and old friends, help with something important, spend time in the Valley, and maybe even get a bit of climbing.

Edit: WC can even, if he/she wants, do a bit of anchor replacement. Not sure if it would count as a Facelift project, but lots to do. Hand drill only, though. ;-(
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 13, 2007 - 01:44am PT
News bulletin: Fattrad announced today that he would be participating in the Facelift. Well, to be exact, given his capitalistic tendencies, he will be making a contribution of capital to the Yosemite Climbing Association to supports its good work. He'll also be hiring substitutes to work on his behalf at the Facelift - he says hiring substitutes has helped the materially rich avoid service in every war the U.S. has ever fought, so why not the war on litter? Dafty's substitutes will the ones be wearing natty striped suits, and unusually heavy ankle jewellery.

There are rumours Daftrat will make a cameo appearance at the sushi/BBQ on the evening of the 25th, at which event he'll eat humble pie. A raffle will be held to determine those who'll help him eat - as it will be low calorie filling, even 17 helpings should only temporarily derail his diet. The raffle is expected to be quite successful.

Rumours of appearances by weschrist and LEB remain unconfirmed.

Bump.
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 16, 2007 - 05:16pm PT
SOMETIME VERY SOON - SAY BY TONIGHT - WOULD BE A VERY GOOD TIME TO LET KEN KNOW WHETHER YOU CAN ATTEND THE FACELIFT, AND WHEN. Especially if you hope for a Facelift volunteer campsite.

Also, if you're attending the SuperTopo get together on evening of the 25th, at Yellow Pines, please confirm with both Ken and me.

Please don't leave this until the last minute, if you can possibly avoid it. Ken has an immense amount of coordinating and organizing to do in the next two months. Volunteer management - kids, adults, etc. Logistics - litter sticks, bags, projects, safety, and so on. Refreshments. Prizes. Speakers. Sponsors and NPS and Delaware North. And on and on. The simpler we can keep it the better - we need to help Ken, not add to his load.

Likewise for the 25th, and perhaps a pancake breakfast on the morning of the 30th - the sooner we know who'll be there, the easier it will be to plan.

Ken (Chicken Skinner) is at yager(at)inreach.com, and I'm at aiourom(at)telus.net, or (604) 228-1798.

Thanks!
Nefarius

Big Wall climber
Fresno, CA
Jul 16, 2007 - 05:24pm PT
While I can't provide an answer to the facelift today, as I have a tentative shoot during that time, you can put me down as a maybe, with me providing my own lodging.

Can you provide a link here, also, to the SuperTaco gathering so that people coming here may find it...

Cheers!
Matt

Trad climber
the land where lois don't roam
Jul 16, 2007 - 05:39pm PT
somehow i missed this before now- but i am in, and i know a few ST lurkers who will undoubtedly be in too. i especially like the end of summer clean-up date, so we who are around get to enjoy the cleaner park all through the fall.



edit-
see event info
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=414113&msg=414113#msg414113
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 16, 2007 - 10:15pm PT
Sorry - the original thread is at http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=407002&msg=411868#msg411868

A brief synopsis:

1. This year's Yosemite Facelift is September 26th - 30th. It's a lot of fun - clean up, projects, socials, speakers, food, prizes, old and new friends, etc.
2. Those helping with the Facelift can probably have free camping, either at Camp 4 or Yellow Pines, from the 26th onward. Possibly also free admission to the park. IT MUST BE ARRANGED IN ADVANCE!
3. It would be fun to have a SuperTopo get together at the Facelift, both to help out Ken, and because the Valley is the "heart" of SuperTopia. Climbers have a lot of helpful knowledge, skill and experience.
4. There is something planned for every night of the Facelift, from the 26th onward.
5. We're planning a SuperTopo get together on the evening of the 25th, at Yellow Pines group campground, near the base of the trail to Glacier Point. Yellow Pines has four sites, each with room for 25. The get together would include either sushi or a BBQ (TBA), fun, a campfire, tall tales, and a chance to meet the other inmates of SuperTopia. There are possibilities of a speaker or show at the village, though that would involve shifting location, and some arranging.
6. We're also thinking of a SuperTopo pancake breakfast on the morning of the 30th, a chance for everyone to recharge before the last day's projects.

There are lots of different things to do to help with the Facelift, from walking all the roads and trails in the park and collecting nearby garbage, to removing post-industrial remains, to simply climbing for a day, but ensuring your area gets a good clean up. Whatever you do, it's fun.

(bump)
Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Yosemite
Jul 16, 2007 - 10:20pm PT
I am working on the evening programs and this is what I have come up with.

Wednesday September 26th at 7:00pm : Tom Frost will host a showing of Sentinel, the West Face. Yosemite Lodge Amphitheater.

Thursday September 27th at 7:00pm : Reel Rock Film Tour featuring King Lines starring Chris Sharma. Yosemite Lodge Amphitheater.

Friday September 28th at 7:00pm : Tim O'Neil presentation. East Auditorium.

Saturday September 29th at 6:30pm : Tommy Caldwell presentation. East Auditorium.
There is an Octoberfest party at the El Portal Community Hall the same evening and I scheduled Tommy's show early enough to do both.

Sunday September 30th at 6:00pm : Party for the participants including free food, free beer and wine, raffle, and live music from the Joe Paquin Band. East Auditorium.

Ken
Zander

Trad climber
Berkeley
Jul 17, 2007 - 12:00am PT
Hi Taco fans!
I'm in for the Tuesday night dinner/party. I'm also in for working Wednesday. Hopefully we'll be given something as fun to do as last years cleaning of the pink spots in the Gunsite.
Nature, I hope it works to do some sushi. I'm willing to pay somewhat more than my share up front, weather I get reimbursed or not.
I can bring an extra barbeque. Maybe some sort of sushi first course and BBQ second course makes sense.
Looking forward to meeting you all.
Zander
Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Yosemite
Jul 17, 2007 - 12:11am PT
If you all decide on a BBQ, I will check on borrowing the local Rotary Club grill which is giant. It takes a truck to tow it. It should be more than adequate and I will pay for the charcoal or supply the wood depending on what you all want to do.

Ken
Fishy

climber
Jul 18, 2007 - 04:23am PT
Hi All,

I have booked the plane tickets, and am coming from Switzerland! Will be arriving Monday 25th - Ken has booked a site in Yellow Pines for my wife and I.

We will definitely be at the event Tuesday night - sushi would be great!

Nature, I can understand that getting the money is essential (I have been in a similar situation)... If there is a way I can get it to you before the event, just let me know.

Looking forward to meeting y'all!

Fishy Pete.
kuan

Sport climber
CA
Jul 18, 2007 - 01:01pm PT
Sounds like a good thing. I want to be there but I will be in school and so I can't commit. I will work on my own lodging if I screw myself out of a campsite.

Nature, I would be more than happy to pay for sushi in advance to make the sushi-thing happen. Just make sure there's enough of that Orgasmic Eel you were cooking up at night! Mmmmmm! I'll be the first one at the table once I smell that cooking!!!
Standing Strong

Trad climber
making desirable discoveries by accident
Jul 18, 2007 - 01:05pm PT
" I want to be there but I will be in school and so I can't commit. I will work on my own lodging if I screw myself out of a campsite."

ditto! i don't know yet what day i can go... but you can count me out of the sushi - i tried some fish in tuolumne and learned i don't like it... my cousins are still teasing me about the expression on my face when i took a bite of my cousin's trout.

i was thinking about the facelift and wishing tacoheads were in tuolumne while i was there. i'm so looking forward to this event :)
nature

climber
Flagstaff, AZ
Jul 18, 2007 - 07:27pm PT
Anders, do you have any idea how many people are interested in the sushi? I'm trying to decide what the price should be to make it worth my while. After adding up the finances from the last sushifest that just ended and estimating that I spent more on supplies than I was paid I'm now caught between wanting to make it happen and not wanting to take it in the wallet to make it happen. Maybe email me and let me know when you can?

Edit: maybe this will help with the idea of sushi and who's really in. The price will be $30 minimum and there needs to be a minimum number of people (probably something like 40). Otherwise I may have to pull out of the event.
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 18, 2007 - 08:08pm PT
Thanks, Doug - I was hoping you'd comment once Flagstaff sushifest was over.

Here's the current Facelift attendance list, AFAIK. Please provide additions and corrections, ASAP, and if you want camping during the Facelift, contact Ken.

CONFIRMED
paganmonkeyboy
khanom
Fluoride
A. Crowley
Roger Brown
stzzo
Tuolumne Penguin
Ron Gomez
nature
K-man
Kurt & Elaina Smith
Ed Hartouni (e-mail received)
jstan
healyje
Quaken
Fishy & wife (e-mail received)
Zander (e-mail received)
Matt
BoKu + 3 (two small folk) (e-mail received)
Nita & spouse (e-mail received)
Ed Hartouni (e-mail received)
Tim K & two small folk (e-mail received)
Mighty Hiker

MAYBES
Jaybro
bluering
EKat & Mark
Gary Carpenter
Mike
slakkey
10b4me
Kuan
Nefarius

SUSHI

As I hope is very clear, a Facelift sushifest will require significant advance commitment. Doug has to order supplies, and schlep everything up from Flagstaff. If we don't have the numbers, it won't happen. Please let Doug (nature) know asap if you're interested. (Hopefully he and Summit can attend, even if sushi doesn't happen.)

BBQ

The simple fallback for the 25th is a BBQ. Ken has already arranged to borrow the Lions' large grille, and the rest is pretty straightforward. This does have the advantage of flexibility, if more people show up than planned.

PANCAKE BREAKFASTS

One of those attending has significant experience with putting on pancake breakfasts, and is willing to do so on one or more mornings of the Facelift. He's self-contained in terms of equipment, but might need help with buying supplies, sous chefs, serving, and cleaning up. People would have to provide their own dishes, and perhaps $5/morning. I like this idea - who would be interested? One morning, or several, or all?

DECISION TREE

Based on information currently available, I'm leaning toward a BBQ and big campfire on the evening of the 25th, camping and working together whenever possible during the Facelift, and a pancake breakfast on at least the morning of the 30th. Should I do the Hamlet thing, or simply decide based on such feedback as there's been? It would help a lot to know numbers.
George R

climber
The Gray Area
Jul 18, 2007 - 11:17pm PT
Hey Anders:

I'll be there. Just talked to Ken, I'll be staying at Yellow Pines for the duration.

I have to confess I'm not much of a sushi fan, but I'm up for other group activities such as BBQ, etc.

Looking forward to seeing everyone.

George Ridgley
10b4me

climber
bitd
Jul 18, 2007 - 11:27pm PT
Anders,
I confirmed with Ken. I will be there for the nights of the 25th, and 26th.not ino raw fish either.
nita

climber
chico ca
Jul 19, 2007 - 12:30am PT
Me and that guy I hang out with- like sushi. BBQ is also fine.
murcy

climber
San Fran Cisco
Jul 19, 2007 - 12:56am PT
Boy, wifey, and I will be there Friday night to Sunday. We'll dust El Cap or launder the Apron or something.
paganmonkeyboy

Trad climber
the blighted lands of hatu
Jul 19, 2007 - 01:21am PT
this might be the first time i've been confirmed without a notary or other officer of the court/dr present...
Prod

Social climber
Charlevoix, MI
Jul 19, 2007 - 08:42am PT
Christa and I will be there and would love to help out. We'll be on a wall for the 2 start days, but will jump in right after we are off.

Who is ram rodding this thing?

Prod.
Mike.

climber
Jul 19, 2007 - 10:10am PT
Prod, By all I can tell the Facelift is Ken's brainchild with Anders (MH) riding shotgun on this version.

Anders, we'll confirm ASAP. It looks good so far.

RE the vittles: We think the BBQ idea is a pragmatic one and in keeping with the community spirit. We did love the sushi at SF2 (and would sign up without hesitation for a SF3), but it was really clear that Nature was totally busting his ass despite generous help from all. And if it's a financial wash, well, I can't blame him for being reserved about another event. As others have wisely suggested, one night of sushi might actually be better than multiple.

Thanks to Ken, Anders and all for keeping the stoke going...
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 23, 2007 - 05:18pm PT
The Facelift is organized by the Yosemite Climbing Association and its executive director, Ken Yager (www.yosemiteclimbing.org). I believe it is the largest single volunteer climbers event in North America. I attended for a day in 2006, plan to be there this year, and thought it would be nice to help Ken, get more SuperTopians involved, have fun, and do good. In legal terms, that makes me the soon-to-be-indicted deputy assistant gofer.

The weekly update, AFAIK, with notes as to details:

CONFIRMED

paganmonkeyboy
khanom
Fluoride
A. Crowley & two
Roger Brown
stzzo (25th & 26th)
Tuolumne Penguin
Ron Gomez
nature
K-man
Kurt & Elaina Smith
jstan
healyje
Quaken
Fishy & wife
Zander (25th - )
Matt
BoKu + 3 (two small folk)
Nita & Andy
Ed Hartouni (25th - 30th)
Tim K & two
George R (25th - 30th)
10b4me (25th & 26th)
Murcy + two (one small folk) (28th - 30th)
Prod & Christa (27th - 30th)
cragnshag + 3 (28th - 30th)
Mighty Hiker (21st - 30th)

That makes 43, although not all are adults, and not all can be there the whole time. I wonder if we can get to 50?

[Ed H was listed twice last time. Which doesn't say much for the attentiveness of the writer, or perhaps the readers.]

MAYBES

Jaybro
bluering
Gary Carpenter
Mike
slakkey
Kuan
Nefarius
Wild Bill

TO DO LIST

1. (You) Confirm attendance and dates asap, arrange camping with Ken.

2. (Me) Talk with Doug about sushi.
nature

climber
Flagstaff, AZ
Jul 23, 2007 - 06:07pm PT
I'm going to have to assume I will be the only roller/slicer in the bunch and will have to limit the Sushi Buy-IN. I'm leaning towards $25/person for the one night. Alone I can easily handle 20-25 people. I won't be able to bring in all the fish as I have with other SF's but I should be able to do the standard stuff like:

Unagi
Shrimp
Smoked Tuna/Salmon
Seared Tuna/Salmon
Softshell crab
Roes

IT's possible I will be able to bring in some fresh yellowtail but it won't be the stuff from hawaii and it won't be the same quality as the Big Eye.
nature

climber
Flagstaff, AZ
Jul 23, 2007 - 06:29pm PT
Sooze: it's simple. The 19th post in this thread is from someone named "Fishy". Go back a page and scroll to the bottom and all will be clear.
cragnshag

Social climber
san joser
Jul 23, 2007 - 08:19pm PT
I'm in + 3 others from out of town for fri-sun.

No sushi for us.
nita

climber
chico ca
Jul 23, 2007 - 08:42pm PT
Nature , What night? 25th or 26th?
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 23, 2007 - 08:45pm PT
It pretty much has to be the 25th - Ken has some good events planned for every other evening, including free food (and drink), speakers, prizes.
nature

climber
Flagstaff, AZ
Jul 23, 2007 - 09:00pm PT
yeah, the 25th is what we decided.

I guess with this one I need to start collecting names of folks that want in on the FishFest.

Shoot me an email at nature _at_ sushibynature (dot) com. I'll cap it at 25 and if I have a minimum of 20 it'll be a go. Once I get the list together we can decide on the fee. If the group wants to just do the minimum ingredients thing (shrimp/eel) we can go $20/head. For $30/head I'd be able to bring in some fresh Yellowtail or perhaps Big Eye or hamachi.

If anyone is heading up on the morning of the 25th from San Diego and wants to pick up my order we can save quite a bit on shipping and move that money into fish.
Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Yosemite
Jul 24, 2007 - 04:38pm PT
Just ordered a hundred more of these.


For picking up this.


Last years clean-up.


Amazing how much is out there.


Party afterward with large raffle, free food, free beverages, and live music.


Ken
jstan

climber
Jul 24, 2007 - 04:51pm PT
Can't believe it. There are only a couple of people in this picture, other than myself, who have lost a lot of hair. That is strange. I didn't feel out of place at all.
Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Yosemite
Jul 24, 2007 - 06:17pm PT
Jstan, Are you going to be able to make it this year? If so, do you need camping? You are looking pretty suave here.


Ken
jstan

climber
Jul 24, 2007 - 06:54pm PT
Actually I had so much fun climbing in JT a couple of weeks ago I was thinking of coming up to Yos for nights 9/16 through 9/30. Don't know how to arrange this but you can count on me being on the Facelift your full period. I believe 26-30. If I bring no food I may have enough room in my pack to carry one of those long stringy things and some other stuff. Do you have an email address through which I can arrange camping for the other days?

The first time i went west a century ago one member of the group advised me to buy all our food before crossing the Mississippi - which I dutifully did. Last year I noticed there was actually food to be had in the Valley. A big improvement I must say. If that has changed let me know. If I bring no food and there is none in the Valley I will have to compete with Bear 46. I believe I know how that would play out.
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 24, 2007 - 08:02pm PT
John, you could mail needful things to yourself, c/o general delivery in the Valley, then pick them up when you got there. Though then you'd have to ship them back, too.

The experiences you refer to were not only last century, but last millenium. Especially if one has more than a minimum of money, buying food in the Valley to cook is ok. 10% of the selection of a good supermarket, but still not bad. And there's lots of other options. Ken will ensure we're not misnourished!
WBraun

climber
Jul 24, 2007 - 08:17pm PT
Jstan, Anders

If you need to mail anything you can send to me and I'll hold for you. Either US postal service or UPS/FEDEX.

Werner
Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Yosemite
Jul 24, 2007 - 08:34pm PT
Thanks Werner. I can loan gear and ropes to you Jstan if you don't want to send it. I have way more than I could ever use at one time. Anders is right, you will not starve and I may have to have you both to dinner prior to the clean-up seeing as how you both have offered to help with organization. I appreciate it. Thanks.

Ken
nature

climber
Flagstaff, AZ
Jul 24, 2007 - 08:39pm PT
So far I have had one person confirm they are in on the sushi. I realize it is a ways off so I'll just keep tabs. Probably sometime around the beginning of September is when I'll have to cut off.
Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Yosemite
Jul 24, 2007 - 09:33pm PT
Nature,
If it will help, I can confirm that my wife and I would love to try your craft. We have two kids also(11 and 4 years old). The 11 year old loves sushi, the 4 year old won't eat much. Bear #46 is psyched and I am sure has invited all of it's friends by now.It would be awesome if it works out, though I can understand the hardship of putting something like this together. If you pull it off it will be a Yosemite first I am sure. Thank you.

Ken
nature

climber
Flagstaff, AZ
Jul 24, 2007 - 09:35pm PT
I am psyched that #46 is in. I'm sure #46 would prefer the fish raw so I now have no choice. Send #46 to Alaska to pick up some sockeye salmon?
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 24, 2007 - 09:41pm PT
Still waiting to hear from LEB, Fattrad, and a galaxy of other SuperTopo luminaries. Facelift is meant to be inclusive, and all are welcome, even trolls. Though a few rhetorical things may need to be checked at the entrance station. Clashes of civilization, inane questions, political flaming, and so on.
Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Yosemite
Jul 25, 2007 - 09:51pm PT
I would like to thank everyone that has responded with camping requests, it is making my life a lot easier. I still have a fair amount left, though it is starting to fill up. The sushifest sounds like fun and I hope it works out. If others can make it, let Nature and Mighty Hiker know so that plans can be made. As an alternative we can have a grill set up with a more casual evening. Either way it will be good. Thank you all for making this event work and hope to see you all there.

Ken
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Jul 25, 2007 - 10:27pm PT
Just sent the email for the wife and I - we plan on doing the whole run from the 25th to the 30th.

Least we can do for all the stoke that the Valley has given to us.

Nature - add two more EXTREME sushi fiends to your list. Also my man - I spent some quality time behind the counter of some sushi joints in the past and can still work a maki mat pretty well.

Sous Chef Ricky D at your service.
Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Yosemite
Jul 25, 2007 - 10:41pm PT
Awesome! Ricky D. I will check on your mellow dog for you and get back to you.Thank you.

Ken
paganmonkeyboy

Trad climber
the blighted lands of hatu
Jul 25, 2007 - 11:15pm PT
nature - i'm in the the sushi and can help you roll if i get my firkin finger back by then...
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 26, 2007 - 09:10pm PT
Current list & daily bump:

CONFIRMED

paganmonkeyboy
khanom
Fluoride
A. Crowley & two
Roger Brown
stzzo (25th & 26th)
Tuolumne Penguin
Ron Gomez
nature
K-man
Kurt & Elaina Smith
jstan (21st - 30th)
healyje
Quaken
Fishy & wife
Zander (25th - )
Matt
BoKu + 3 (two small folk)
Nita & Andy
Ed Hartouni (25th - 30th)
Tim K & two
George R (25th - 30th)
10b4me (25th & 26th)
Murcy + two (one small folk) (28th - 30th)
Prod & Christa (27th - 30th)
cragnshag + 3 (28th - 30th)
Ricky D & spouse (25th - 30th)
Mighty Hiker (21st - 30th)

MAYBES

Jaybro
bluering
Gary Carpenter
Mike
slakkey
Kuan
Nefarius
Wild Bill
klk

Trad climber
cali
Jul 26, 2007 - 09:28pm PT
Put me down as a "maybe"-- or rather, i will show up for at least a portion, but due to work commitments i just won't know until pretty late how much time i can take off.

if we run out of camping spots before i know my dates, i can always commute. i just want to hear john play his bagpipes.

Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Yosemite
Jul 26, 2007 - 10:38pm PT
klk, I have you down as a definite maybe. Maybe I'll have camping left and maybe I won't. Seriously, I will probably still have camping if you don't mind switching around a bit. Let me know when and if you need a site when you can and I will try to arrange it for you.

Ken
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
Jul 27, 2007 - 10:40am PT
I missed the FaceLift thread when it first appeared, and came across this one a few weeks ago.... Told myself I couldn't afford to go, money or time-wise - especially since the Jtree SushiFest is only a month later.

It's been gnawing at me ever since.....

SO.....

I STILL don't know if I can do it(money/time-wise) but it can't hurt to do a little research! (hahaha- isn't that how it always starts). I would love to be there for the party night being referred to in this thread and do a day or two of helping with the cleanup, and get my first glimpse of Yosemite....

 Whic airports are nearest?
 Which entrance to Yosemite would be the one I'd use to be going to this event?


Thanks in advance!
nita

climber
chico ca
Jul 27, 2007 - 10:51am PT
Happy, Jetblue -has a sale price from - NY to Oakland - $139 each way. From Oakland,maybe you can share a ride with a supertopian.

Don't forget to check the -Fresno airport.
nature

climber
Flagstaff, AZ
Jul 27, 2007 - 12:21pm PT
The number for sushi is creeping up. Looks like we have seven.

Shoot me an email at nature _at_ sushibynature (dot) com if you want in. Or you can use my (new) ST email address. rock@holdit.com now gets bounced as spam (how the hell did ST allow that email address to get into the hands of spammers?)

I'll cap it at 25 and if I have a minimum of 20 it'll be a go. Once I get the list together we can decide on the fee. If the group wants to just do the minimum ingredients thing (shrimp/eel) we can go $20/head. For $30/head I'd be able to bring in some fresh Yellowtail or perhaps Big Eye or hamachi.
nita

climber
chico ca
Jul 27, 2007 - 01:39pm PT
Pagan, I know you can't get to noisy in the campgrounds, but my husband is bringing his guitar.... he knows tons of songs.


Mighty Hiker and Ken,we will respect all rules.... That is a promise!










ps...Karl Baba, has shut my husband down -several times. :-)
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Jul 27, 2007 - 01:51pm PT
Only seven for sushi?

Come on people - let's get that number up there. Don't be telling me that you don't like sushi.

It's easy enough to learn how - guppies and neon tetras are less than 3 bucks a dozen at Walmart pet shops. Start small, be consistent and by September you will up there with the big boys.
nature

climber
Flagstaff, AZ
Jul 27, 2007 - 02:09pm PT
guppy-maki: yum yum

Actually, the number would appear to be just a bit larger (nine confirmed and two more that will be there but might be late arriving on the 25th). I'm assuming Anders is in on the sushi. In looking at the list there are a few other folks that I know will be in on Sushi *IF* they plan to be in the ditch on the 25th (like k-man).

I'm pretty much planning on their being enough folks. And, as is typcial, the closer we get to the deadline the more folks well get. OF course there are those folks that lust looooove to sign up after the deadline so who knows how big this will get.

Others I am pretty sure would be in on sushi due to past interest:

Matt
A. Crowley
healyje
kuan (a maybe in attending)


what do ya'll's have to say? when are you arriving?

Edit: In reviewing this thread it looks like others expressed interest:
Zander is in?
sttzo - you at least had ideas on how I should pull this off - does that mean you are in on sushi?
Fishy and wife?
Mike. and Moria?

And then there are the folks on the list that don't seem to pay enough attention to ST to get a yay or a nay either way, like:
K. Smith
and a few others.

Maybe between Ken, Anders and myself we could ask the "list" as it would be easier to know early. I certianly will entertain the idea of having a bit of extra stuffs for walk-ups but with the price of Big Eye being what it is I probalby won't allot for more than 3-5 walk-ups.
nature

climber
Flagstaff, AZ
Jul 27, 2007 - 02:32pm PT
D'oh! my bad! We did and I missed that part where you included your nick.

That said, if anyone does email me please include your taco nick (I'm sure most would have w/o me asking)
Zander

Trad climber
Berkeley
Jul 27, 2007 - 03:22pm PT
Hi Nature,
I'm definately in.
Looking forward to it!
Zander
Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Yosemite
Jul 27, 2007 - 03:38pm PT
Nita,

We have the whole Yellow Pines Campground on the 25th. The only other people there are the campground hosts. Site A is nearest the river and farthest away from the hosts, if I recall correctly. As long as they aren't bothered everything shall be fine.

Ken
nita

climber
chico ca
Jul 27, 2007 - 06:34pm PT
Ken,Thanks for the info.. Please put us by the river..far- far away.......



Hey, What's up with you local- Yosemite Kids? Wally,Karl Baba, Moosie,Jobee??? You guy's better show up... at least for Sushi night.

How about you- part time locals- Mayfield and Chapman?
Hossjulia and Finner?
Anastasia and that guy you hang out with?
Klinefelter?
nature

climber
Flagstaff, AZ
Jul 30, 2007 - 08:26pm PT
A.C. OK! I'll start the collection as soon as I have 20 on the list.

The number stands at 13 right now. Brutus and Em are trying to make it but not sure yet. Nita and hubby would be in late that night so I have them down as maybe.
Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Yosemite
Aug 3, 2007 - 07:30pm PT
Stzzo,

I went to Yellow Pines yesterday and you are right site D is at the end of the road. Site A is closer to Sentinel Beach and site D is more secluded. Regardless we have the whole campground the night of the 25th so Nature can do his sushi magic anywhere he pleases. I reserved the whole site for the night of the 26th as well. After that I have sites A and B reserved through the weekend. The Yosemite Fund has sites C and D.

The evening shows are arranged and there has been one addition. On the 26th Royal Robbins will join Tom Frost and co-host a showing of Sentinel, West Face. All other shows were listed earlier in the thread. Raffle prizes have been coming in at a regular pace.

I must be a glutton for punishment because I not only started the addition on my house, I also started a new job. It is nice to have an income again but, what was I thinking?

Ken
lucho

Gym climber
San Franpsycho
Aug 4, 2007 - 01:09am PT
bump.............
Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Yosemite
Aug 4, 2007 - 01:24am PT
Gym Climber? I don't think so! 'fess up now.

Ken
Prod

Social climber
Charlevoix, MI
Aug 6, 2007 - 11:32am PT
Chicken Skinner = Ken?...

If so Ken, this will be our first trip to Yosemite. I am looking for some advice on camping etc.

-We will arrive in Fresno late on the 21st and will get a hotel somewhere between there and Yosemite.

-22nd we plan on hiking and fixing lines in the notch of lost arrow direct.

-23rd-25 or 26th climb the LA direct.

-After the direct on we are just planning on going with the flow until we leave on the 30th.

What do you recommend we do about camping from the 22nd on, we will have a rental car. Roy aka Tarbuster has recommended we reserve a camp site (upper pines) and rent bikes to get around.

Thanks for your help,

Prod.
aka... Guy
the kid

Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
Aug 6, 2007 - 02:42pm PT
Looks like Elaina and I can't make it. We have a Womens climbing event at the New and i almost forgot about it. Anybody planning another JT old school rendezvous? Or is that just every weekend like the old days?
ks
nature

climber
Flagstaff, AZ
Aug 13, 2007 - 06:14pm PT
*bump*

Looks like we might have a "logo" for this years event?



good stuff:



nita

climber
chico ca
Aug 13, 2007 - 06:25pm PT
Kuan, Love your - facelift art work and self portrait. You should add your self portrait picture to, Blitzo's thread. ;-)



edit: Nature, her art style,humor and unagi.
nature

climber
Flagstaff, AZ
Aug 13, 2007 - 06:27pm PT
we have a winner!

what gave it away, nita? She's sent you art work?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Aug 17, 2007 - 04:47pm PT
Aw, man I'm such a moron sometimes, I thought it was August 25 this upcoming weekend. Stupid!

Well, I'll have more time to prepare...and more to time to rally Crowley into doing some routes with me. Maybe I can talk Matt into rope-gunning Serenity/Sons for me.
The Doctor

Social climber
Da Bronx
Aug 20, 2007 - 03:35pm PT
Just confirmed, Pennsylenvy and yours truly will make the mad dash(13 hours) from one ditch (Grand Canyon)to the other ditch for the festivities.Hello all
paganmonkeyboy

Trad climber
the blighted lands of hatu
Aug 20, 2007 - 03:50pm PT
Yes ! the dr and PE in da house !!
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2007 - 04:05pm PT
Hmmm - PMB, the doctor and PE all at the Facelift. The sushi eating suddenly has become considerably more competitive. To quote Shakespeare, they're definitely in the lean and hungry group.
john hansen

climber
Aug 20, 2007 - 10:54pm PT
So Chicken Skinner. Where is Yellow Pines campground?

Don't think I will be camping there, but I might drop in to meet a few Super T folk.


Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Yosemite
Aug 21, 2007 - 01:54am PT
John,

It is the second left after the El Cap turnaround on the one-way Valley Loop (southside drive). The first left is Cathedral Beach, the second left is Yellow Pines and Sentinel Beach. It is just before the Four Mile Trail parking. You need to get in the left lane and look for it carefully or you may drive past it and have to drive back around to El Cap turnaround for another pass.

See you there.

Ken
john hansen

climber
Aug 21, 2007 - 12:19pm PT
Ah yes that,s one of my favorite spots. I just never knew you could camp there. You must have some pull.
elron

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe
Aug 22, 2007 - 02:33pm PT
I'm a maybe for Friday night through Sunday
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 22, 2007 - 03:21pm PT
nature posted to the other (Facelift/sushi) thread:
"Speaking of funding I spoke with Jesse the climbing ranger in Yosemite and he told me that he might be able to get me some funds from the park for the sushi and reduce the cost to everyone. I will stick with the $30/person for now and if that comes through I'll give you a refund at the fest. Jesse is really excited about the sushi.

He also has one major concern which is drinking and driving from the sushi in Yellow Pines to your camp. As he'll be on-scene and "working" he said he'd let the other rangers know he has the scene under control. But he also pointed out that if anyone gets busted for DUI or the like it'd shut us down for good. We will make a point to ensure this doesn't happen."

This makes a lot of sense, not just for sushi night (Tuesday 25th September), but the other nights. Particularly if many are camped at Yellow Pines. Many of the Facelift evening and social events are at or near the lodge, which involves a bit of a drive (or a nice starry walk) back to YP. So we'll need to be careful to have designated drivers and so on.

I'd like to suggest that we invite the YP campground hosts and Jesse, on a complimentary basis. Jesse's new wife, also. Perhaps others?

Edit: Sorry, I think I meant the visitor centre, not the lodge. Which would make it about 30 minutes walk?
nature

climber
Flagstaff, AZ
Aug 22, 2007 - 04:00pm PT
Jesse also mentioned that it is possible to get a public intoxication ticket for making the drunken walk to your camp. Typical Naziville.
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 22, 2007 - 04:17pm PT
It all sounds rather hypothetical. Perhaps you could get arrested for public intoxication in the Valley - walking while drunk - but I suspect only if you were being a nuisance in some other way. Loud, disturbing others, damaging property, posing a threat to yourself or others, or some such. And you'd likely get fair warning.

We undoubtedly need to behave ourselves at Facelift, given the nature of the event and the location. A little restraint seems called for - it's not the right place or time for excess.

Part of the point of the Facelift is to make nice with the powers that be. So let's do so. Talk talk, and making nice, is often a good strategy.
nature

climber
Flagstaff, AZ
Aug 22, 2007 - 04:19pm PT
making nice

you mean "making rice", right? ;-)
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Aug 22, 2007 - 04:29pm PT
WUI?

Walking Under the Influence?

Never heard of such a thing. Maybe we should wear ear tags and not shave for a week and Jesse will think we are bears.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 22, 2007 - 04:45pm PT
As a usually non-dramatic, understated, non-paranoid member of the climbing community in the Valley, vis-a-vis law enforcement, let me say that little latitude is given these day to public intoxication by the authorities.

I don't think that climbers are singled out, but given the liberal policies of the past, and our long history of being in the park, that it may seem unusually draconian.

One should be circumspect in revelry associated with any intoxicant. And under no condition be driving around in any altered state. Not only that, but seemingly minor infractions having to do with the condition of your vehicle (light out, fenders hanging off, etc, etc), or minor violations of the speed limits, weaving, you name it, can and probably will be used to initiate contact, especially at night.

"Caeser's wife must be above suspicion"

and it sounds like we are going to be married to Jesse this time around.

Forewarned is forearmed
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 22, 2007 - 04:46pm PT
Yes - we can:
1. Make dice with the rangers.
2. Make lice with the rangers. (Maybe not)
3. Make mice with the rangers. (Whatever turns your crank, I suppose.)
4. Make nice with the rangers.
5. Make rice with the rangers.
6. Make vice with the rangers. (Probably not.)

A good time will be had by all.
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Aug 22, 2007 - 04:48pm PT
Ahh heck - just give Jesse a big ol spoonful of wasabi and tell him it's guacamole.

Let the fun begin.
nature

climber
Flagstaff, AZ
Aug 22, 2007 - 04:54pm PT
For what it's worth, though I only spent about 30 minutes with Jesse he comes off as a good guy. I got the honest feeling he really is on our side. Though you can take his words any way you want I didn't get the feeling it was lip-service.

I forgot what he called the offense (I think it was public intoxication). It's not just in the Park you can get in trouble for such a thing. Granted it rarely happens but it is a law. I think he simply was trying to point out the things we (or anyone) *could* in trouble for. Yeah, we're married to him for this event. That doesn't upset me or bother me at all. We had two LEO's at the last sushifest and it was great to hang out with them, talke with them, and learn from them. It's fair to say that there have been rangers many of us have encountered that we'd probably consider going way overboard so perhaps that skews our perception and causes a stereotype (It does for me and I certainly make a point to me more careful in the Park).
Ouch!

climber
Aug 22, 2007 - 05:24pm PT
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 22, 2007 - 10:31pm PT
Nice cartoon, Ouch! I'm looking forward to your "Facelift SuperTopo softball game" cartoon. All the usual suspects, and a few new ones, will be there.

May I have my "100 post thread" gold star now, please?
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Aug 22, 2007 - 10:38pm PT
Softball?

Do I need to bring my glove?

And should we decide NOW if the Merced River is a "foul" or a "home run"?
Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Yosemite
Aug 22, 2007 - 10:43pm PT
You will need your glove to protect yourself while cleaning up the abundant amounts of toilet paper.

Ken

P.S. Mighty Hiker good job on having a thread reach 100, I haven't achieved that goal yet.
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 23, 2007 - 12:11am PT
On second thought, maybe a beach party? A chess tournament? Croquet? Three legged race? Potatoe race?

Actually, softball would be fun, but would take some organizing. Team selection could be interesting, too.
Jello

Social climber
No Ut
Aug 23, 2007 - 12:34am PT
Wish I could be there for the festivities and clean-up. Alas...not possible.

-JelloNeedsAFaceliftToo
Standing Strong

Trad climber
i said lay-daaay, step inside my hyundaaai
Aug 23, 2007 - 02:16pm PT
that sucks about them being strict about drunken walking!!! wtf, if people are being responsible and not driving under the influence they shouldn't be punished.

i should be at the facelift. i'm fairly apathetic about alcohol and will be happy to stay sober and be a designated driver if anybody needs one.
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 18, 2007 - 04:46pm PT
Bump. One week to go. Plus this thread got over 100 posts. SuperTopo merit badge or something.
Crimpergirl

Social climber
St. Looney
Sep 18, 2007 - 05:58pm PT
Toilet paper? Ewwww!

Glad to see all those 'grabbers' are there for us to use. :)

And as far as other activities, I'll watch. I learned the hard way (i.e., spent time in a cast) that I am best left a spectator in life except for climbing!)

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