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Mike Bolte

Trad climber
Planet Earth
Jun 15, 2013 - 01:42am PT
Nice Slater - I've been chasing one of those for the last three weeks.
cyndiebransford

climber
Kenai Peninsula, Alaska
Jun 16, 2013 - 03:14am PT
Today's birds at the Bishop's Creek area of Captain Cook State Park.
semi-palmated plover
semi-palmated plover
Credit: cyndiebransford
whimbrel
whimbrel
Credit: cyndiebransford
Bishop's Creek beach area
Bishop's Creek beach area
Credit: cyndiebransford
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Jun 16, 2013 - 01:43pm PT
I'm curious to opinions of those who frequent this thread over this debate:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/06/130614-bird-watching-birdsong-smartphone-app-ethics/
little Z

Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
Jun 16, 2013 - 02:29pm PT
Good post Tobia,

and an excellent article, presents the controversy very well. Personally, I see it as mostly an ethical debate. I see the real impact as being negligible. It boils down to how do you want to play the game, and how much respect do you have for the resource. Think of some of the ethical topics that have been (and still are) debated in climbing - bolts vs. no bolts, chalk vs. no chalk, gardening vs. no gardening - things that may make the climbing experience more enjoyable or easier but that can have an impact on the resource that one is enjoying. But then, really, how big is that impact? How does bolting compare to turning your local crag into a quarry? How does the disturbance of song playback compare to wholesale habitat destruction? or global warming? What has a bigger impact in the end, your playing tape to bring in a desired bird or the 3 hours you drove/flew to get to the spot where your target bird resides? It's a debate that really has a lot of parallels to climbing. Most climbers could agree when deciding if a route is "over bolted". Most birders can decide when or where playback would be abusive. But, as always, there will be folks who can't draw the line - because the competitive edge that can be gained is too enticing. And now, as pointed out in the article, in some cases the law has stepped in to make the decision. Sound familiar my climbing friends?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jun 16, 2013 - 03:28pm PT
Well, it will get you booted from some locales and possibly tooled at others.
So far birders have not devolved to the time-honored climbers' beatdown.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jun 16, 2013 - 05:37pm PT
Great photos Mike, Cyndie and Slater.

Credit: Bob D'A

Credit: Bob D'A

Credit: Bob D'A

Credit: Bob D'A
little Z

Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
Jun 16, 2013 - 07:43pm PT
oops! don't want to start anything. I know a lot of folks come to this thread to get away from the Taco rat race, so, with that in mind, here's a beautiful bird to mellow us all out

Brown Noddy, Cocos Island &#40;Costa Rica&#41;, photo by Jason Horn
Brown Noddy, Cocos Island (Costa Rica), photo by Jason Horn
Credit: little Z

EDIT: someone deleted a previous post that would have put my comments in context. whatever, bring on the birds.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jun 16, 2013 - 11:04pm PT
Credit: mouse from merced
Brown noddy followed by the female redwing blackbird, who is more cooperative than the male.
Credit: mouse from merced
Two evenings in a row at dusk on the Merced River near the El Portal Store, and this is the best I could do.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jun 17, 2013 - 12:28am PT
Here ya go, Crimpie, two more Bulbuls for ya...

Credit: Reilly

Pretty lousy but it was tough shootin' and I didn't want to intrude too much.
Slater

Trad climber
Central Coast
Jun 17, 2013 - 01:06am PT

Taking terns...

Credit: Slater

Credit: Slater

Happy Father's Day
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jun 17, 2013 - 12:08pm PT
Nice shooting everyone...great stuff.

Walden Ponds
Walden Ponds
Credit: Bob D'A

Cedar Waxwing
Cedar Waxwing
Credit: Bob D'A

Bullock's Oriole
Bullock's Oriole
Credit: Bob D'A

American Goldfinch
American Goldfinch
Credit: Bob D'A



10b4me

Social climber
Jun 17, 2013 - 03:35pm PT
fyi,
http://www.tucsonaudubon.org/what-we-do/festival.html

I think I will attend this as I will be there in August.
QITNL

climber
Jun 18, 2013 - 01:34am PT
Finally saw a bird that isn't a rosy finch. So what species is this?

Credit: QITNL

Credit: QITNL
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jun 18, 2013 - 01:39am PT
QITNL, The Bird Thread has different standards than the rest of ST.
We don't cotton to trolls, let alone suffer them.

























It's a Clark's Nutcracker ;-)
QITNL

climber
Jun 18, 2013 - 02:11am PT
Sorry, I just got back from wandering around in the mountains so I might be sarcastically challenged at the moment. It usually takes me a few days to understand anything my brother says. Maybe this bird is really common or something, you're gonna have to spell it out for me. Or maybe you are just pulling my leg.

Yep, Clark's Nutcracker, that's what it sounded like:
http://content.lib.utah.edu/cdm/ref/collection/wss/id/1286

Thanks!
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jun 18, 2013 - 09:24am PT
Clarks's Nutcrackers are some cool birds, part of the Jay family.

DMT
eKat

Mountain climber
Less than a second shy of 49 minutes
Jun 18, 2013 - 09:47am PT
The Clark's Nutcracker (a corvid, a member of the crow family) blows my mind.

The symbiotic relationship they have with their habitat's trees is flat out remarkable. I won't attempt to explain it, here. . . but if you're interested, pull a GOOG (rhymes with spooge) on it. . . and stand in awe.

:-)
little Z

Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
Jun 18, 2013 - 10:41am PT
many moons ago, when I worked at a raptor banding station in the Goshute Mnts in NE Nevada, Clark's Nutcrackers would occasionally blunder into the mist nets that were set up to catch hawks. Their bills, faces and feet were so covered in pine pitch that they would literally "stick" to the nets. And boy did they let out some ear-splitting calls when you had them in the hand, and they would hammer on your fingers like a woodpecker. very cool birds
10b4me

Social climber
Jun 18, 2013 - 11:17am PT
Clark's Nutcrackers, and Mountain Chickadees are my favorite mountain singers.
Timid TopRope

Social climber
'used to be Paradise, CA
Jun 18, 2013 - 01:28pm PT
Sorry if this sounds like I'm being a jerk and don't want ruffle anyone's feathers but some of you need to buy an updated bird book and learn which birds are most likely found in the habitats you frequent. Learning something is more satisfying than being told something.

While I'm on my soapbox I wish to convey my conflicted feelings regarding bird apps. Particularly when songs are played during nesting season they may be scaring some potential suitors away due to thinking a rival is laying claim to their spot.

Consider using them as an aid to help memorize songs and use your memory skills to learn the nuances of different songs and calls. Careful observations of call note (ie, the various chips of warbler species), personal mnemonic devices, etc. may take many years to master but will make you a better birder in the long run.

OK, done with rant. BTW, this thread sees a lot more action and has better photos than my local Audubon and Google Groups sites.
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