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this just in

climber
north fork
Jan 20, 2013 - 12:38pm PT
Credit: this just in
Credit: this just in
Credit: this just in
Slater saw this just east of J-Tree, yes you can use it.
Tony

Trad climber
Pt. Richmond, CA
Jan 20, 2013 - 04:57pm PT
dee ee,

That looks good for a Red-naped to me. I just saw my first Yellow-bellied a couple of days ago and took many photos. In the majority the white bar was covered by flank feathers.

Yellow-bellied Sapsucker <br/>
Don Castro Regional Park, Hayward, CA
Yellow-bellied Sapsucker
Don Castro Regional Park, Hayward, CA
Credit: Tony
Credit: Tony
Credit: Tony

For more than you'd ever want to know about Sapsucker ID:
http://www.paradisebirding.com/picidae/HybridSapsuckers.pdf
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jan 20, 2013 - 05:51pm PT
De ee,, ist year red naped SS to me..
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Jan 20, 2013 - 06:10pm PT
De ee - While we were in Morongo over T'giving, we say some hybrids. I wonder if that is what you have going on.

If not, I lean toward the Yellow Bellied mainly because I see a glimpse of yellow on the breast of your bird (see first photo). Also think I see some faint yellow on his vent.

But also because male Yellow-Bellies can have some red on their nape. Some sources say the red nape is unreliably because of that reason.

Either way, beautiful bird you saw!

Thoughts anyone?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jan 20, 2013 - 06:16pm PT
Was da boid E or W of the rockies?? I see that yellow tinge now Crimpie,, sharp eye you have..
Tony

Trad climber
Pt. Richmond, CA
Jan 20, 2013 - 06:17pm PT
Slater,

Here is the best I could come up with for an adult Red Crossbill.
Red Crossbill <br/>
Horseshoe Meadows &#40;Whitney area&#41;
Red Crossbill
Horseshoe Meadows (Whitney area)
Credit: Tony

I realized I have no photos of Clark's Nutcracker. I'll have to rectify that.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2013 - 06:20pm PT
I don't understand why they separate the Red-naped and Yellow-bellieds.
I see them as a cline. But for the sake of hitting 500 this year I sure
hope they don't get lumped!

edit:
Who wants to drive up to Davis tomorrow for the Iceland gull?
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Jan 20, 2013 - 06:25pm PT
I looked at the bird a while thinking "Red-Naped" but then noticed the bit of yellow. Then saw the glimpse on his vent.

I've battled with their IDs before. The link that Tony posted is nice!

Hard for me to get past the yellow knowing the red nape can be misleading for sure.

But I'm an amateur so I'd love to hear other thoughts too. I posted the Willoughby appreciation thread before this question. Sure makes his absence even more a bummer.
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Jan 20, 2013 - 06:26pm PT
I'd love to go Reilly. Wish I could! Too far a drive (heh heh) and I've got the crud right now. Boo on the crud.
Tony

Trad climber
Pt. Richmond, CA
Jan 20, 2013 - 06:32pm PT
Regarding dee ee's sapsucker, all three (RN, RB, YB) have yellow on the underparts. They used to be considered a single species, Yellow-bellied. If it is a first-year bird, Yellow-belled are slower to develop adult-type plumage. According to the paper I cited earlier (http://www.paradisebirding.com/picidae/HybridSapsuckers.pdf), field guides fail to convey the complexity. I was forced to wade through this when we found a likely hybrid in Christmas count a couple of years ago.
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Jan 20, 2013 - 06:36pm PT
Good stuff Tony. I haven't read that link thoroughly yet. Crud is preventing that concentration. So is it that he seems to be developing slowly that makes you lean red-naped mostly? The lack of full malar stripe had me wondering red-naped.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jan 20, 2013 - 07:57pm PT
i go back to my original guess-- ist year red naped..;-D
Tony

Trad climber
Pt. Richmond, CA
Jan 22, 2013 - 02:31am PT
Crimpie,

For first -year Yellow-bellied, I was referring to brownish color in the head well into winter. I have only seen juvenile Red-breasted, but here is an example of a juvenile Yellow-bellied taken in lat eFeb (not mine)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/13237694@N00/6933115435/sizes/l/in/photostream/

I think dee-ee's is a female Red-naped judging from the white chin.

I concur that we need Willoughby to keep us honest.
Mike Bolte

Trad climber
Planet Earth
Jan 22, 2013 - 09:48am PT
nice shots tony

I'm in india for a few days.
Credit: Mike Bolte
Credit: Mike Bolte
Credit: Mike Bolte
Credit: Mike Bolte
Credit: Mike Bolte
Credit: Mike Bolte
Credit: Mike Bolte
Credit: Mike Bolte
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Jan 22, 2013 - 10:05am PT
Thanks Tony. I learn so much from you guys. I can read all day, yet a quick conversation offers 10 times more information. I'll see if I can coax Willoughby back to offer more Sapsucker tips. I guess it's no coincidence that the Cornell birding team of greats calls themselves the Sapsuckers!
Slater

Trad climber
Central Coast
Jan 22, 2013 - 11:36am PT
Hey, anyone got that Duckumentary link?

I went to PBS to show it to my students and the stupid PBS webpage has it but it won't play, there is not "play" button.

dumb

I got my students all psyched for it!
There is a 1 minute short on youtube... but not the same.
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Jan 22, 2013 - 12:59pm PT
Beautiful shots (as usual) Tony. I'm anxious to see the duckumentary link. I'd not heard of it before. I sent an email to Willoughby - maybe he'll come on by here.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jan 22, 2013 - 01:13pm PT
sometimes they are like attempting an id of flycatchers lol!
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Jan 22, 2013 - 01:41pm PT
Or shorebirds for me. All birds within a mile of water are "peeps". :)
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jan 22, 2013 - 01:43pm PT
peeps,, and dickie birds lol! On the subject of hybrids,, ive only had the occasion to confirm a few amongst the song bird variety.. Most difficult at times.. The last one i mounted was a grackle blackbird hybrid.
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