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Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Topic Author's Original Post - May 24, 2019 - 07:42am PT
I have a hide-a-key on every car

I regularly pre-apologize to my wife for forgetting our anniversary

I have a premade pack list on my phone for every trip and scenario i.e.; surfing/climbing, climbing/backpacking, wine tasting/surfing and so on.

I often recite "keys, wallet, glasses, what am I forgetting?" Repeat...repeat- This, as I pat myself down.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
May 24, 2019 - 07:48am PT
My wife and I do an “alzheimer’s check” to make sure we have everyting before we leave a climbing area. Works great....whenever we remember to do it.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 24, 2019 - 08:44am PT
Don’t fight it, being organized is boring.

So last week I got off the plane at Heathrow and went into London. Hit the ground running, as it were. After my VIP tour of The Alpine Club I went on a walkabout. Wound up at Westminster Bridge and took a pic of Big Ben wreathed in scaffolding. Went to the wee ice cream kiosk, scarfed, and headed down to the Tube. One stop west I remembered I needed to get off to go to the Falkland Islands consulate to check on my political asylum application. As soon as I hit the platform I realized it was already closed but the train doors had already closed. I reached for my phone in my pants pocket. GONE! Phack! I’d been pickpocketed in the throng at the bridge? Jeezus! I’d also forgotten to lock the damn thing! OMG! Wait! Had I left it on that park bench about 6 blocks down river? No! In my jet lagged fog I remembered I had kept a death grip on it at the bridge rather than tempt fate with it in my pocket. Then I remembered I had set it on the counter of the ice cream kiosk while I fumbled for coinage. I raced back to the kiosk and the nice Polak girl said in really bad English
“A man take phone”.
‘A man?’ WTF? Then she handed me a tiny scrap of paper.
“He say you call him for phone.”
How the phuk was I to call him? He had my phone! Then it dawned on me that I did have a phone! My hotel had given me one! Hallelujah! After an interminable ring a guy with a worse accent than the nice Polak answers. Yes, he have phone. He by The Eye (the huge Ferris Wheel on the other side of the river). No, he not at Eye he by rion. Rion? Yes, right rion! Oh, the big white lion on the other side of the bridge? Yes! You come quick, I go soon! I’m running, dood! I get across to the right rion, I hope, and realize I didn’t ask which of the 50 people around it would he be. Then he walks up to me smiling with my phone in his hand!
“You phone unrocked, I rook at you pictures!”
Dood, you rock! He didn’t look chinese, I think he was Nepalese or Tibetan. He got very insulted when I pulled some money out! Please, take it and make me feel better!

People are awesome.
formerclimber

Boulder climber
CA
May 24, 2019 - 09:05am PT
I always have full survival gear set in the trunk of my car (anything from fire starter and compass to tent and sleeping bag) + emergency sapsat beacon. Pepper sprays handy (3 of them in different locations), 2 car window breaking tools, one in a car in a cup holder, another in my backpack, etc, etc. Tire repair kit/inflator, battery jumper, a set of a few tools, saw, axe - always in the trunk/under car seats.
My key bunch has multiple attachment tools on it, from lanyard to carabiner and gets hooked onto something that's on me the moment I'm out. A couple of hide-a-key points.
Like to stay organized and prepared.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
May 24, 2019 - 09:16am PT
Before we leave for any trip, my wife always asks "What are we forgetting?" I always answer "Nothing," since by definition, anything else I mention we did not forget.

I do, however, keep my climbing gear pre-sorted and pre-packed. I start with my basic hiking package. If climbing, I add my free package. If aiding, I add my aid package. If roped soloing, I add my solo package. I have a separate gym package. I only need to customize for mountaineering or walls.

If only I could remember to take the appropriate package!

John
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
May 24, 2019 - 09:37am PT
hey there, say, all...

wow, i am a list maker... always did... still do...

with 'neat little circles' to CHECK-OFF, after i 'remember/do' them...

works great, as long as you leave the LIST in plain sight, all the time...

*sadly, it is a very messy list-- but-- the circles are really neatly 'neat' ...



then, only glitch is this--CARDS or mail:

if you check-off all but one thing, because of 'A REASON' ...
well-- when the reason is solved,
you can 'forget' you DID it, as-- i just throw the list away...

thus-- if it is a card, to send, i will SEND ANOTHER, :o

*trip 'remember list' though, work great...

JUST KEEP them in plain sight around the house, ;)


*i think my dad had a list, too...
i think my sis, does it...
not sure about some of the brothers...



my NEIGHBOR was trying it, but-- he forgets where he puts it...
he's back to just writing on his desk calendar...
*and, my one local friend, does too...


if all else, fails, PIN your 'cue cards' of what to do,
to your shirt... (only had to do that once, yearsssssssss ago...)
skywalker1

Trad climber
co
May 24, 2019 - 09:39am PT
I guess we keep our junk compartmentalized. Camping gears is in one place, mess kit is always ready to go. Food box is always ready to go maybe a grocery store stop.

River stuff is ready to go.

Rack and ropes ready to go.

It actually only takes 30 minutes to pack for a weekend trip. But we have a big truck that we rarely drive but on road trips. So you can just load the sucker up.

I hear you with the "pat down" before leaving the house! Hahaha.

S....
Trump

climber
May 24, 2019 - 09:50am PT
I’ve got 20 pairs of reading glasses and can never find one, but I never seem to lose my keys or wallet. For myself, I might be better served countermeasuring my countermeasures. This could take a while.
formerclimber

Boulder climber
CA
May 24, 2019 - 10:08am PT
If I put any item down, I always put it into the same spot - everything has own designated spot - so there's no time spent trying to locate anything. I had spent almost the whole life moving/always on the road, and the 1st thing at any place is to assign every unpacked item it's spot and memorize it. Items in the car trunk are also subject to strict organization.
WyoRockMan

climber
Grizzlyville, WY
May 24, 2019 - 10:20am PT
I often recite "keys, wallet, glasses, what am I forgetting?" Repeat...repeat- This, as I pat myself down.

I use, "Keys, wallet, spectacles, testicles."
JLP

Social climber
The internet
May 24, 2019 - 10:33am PT
Yes to checklists.
little Z

Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
May 24, 2019 - 11:28am PT
I know where everything is...until my wife or son uses it and then leaves it somewhere else
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
May 24, 2019 - 01:09pm PT
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NutAgain!

Trad climber
https://nutagain.org
May 24, 2019 - 02:53pm PT
This thread makes me feel much better about myself. I’m in good company, and actually under-prepared it seems.
john hansen

climber
May 24, 2019 - 05:40pm PT
Rockman beat me to it but my dad used to joke about the priest crossing himself.

"Spectacles testicles, passport wallet."
zBrown

Ice climber
May 24, 2019 - 07:22pm PT
I have misplaced my favorite tool

Anybody seen it?

Q- Ball

Mountain climber
but to scared to climb them anymore
May 25, 2019 - 12:10am PT
I stay up all night, like now, trying to turn my brain off for both past and future logistical questions.
Brockman

climber
May 25, 2019 - 05:00am PT
Skis

Boots

Poles

Gloves

Goggles

First Aid Kit . . .

FOR EVERYTHING - not just skeezin!
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
May 25, 2019 - 05:06am PT
Reilly,
You sure do some globe trotting. Do me a favor, before the taco shuts down and make a TR listing the places you have been.
perswig

climber
May 25, 2019 - 05:46am PT
I have misplaced my favorite tool

We've got a Seldin in one of the ortho packs, last used it to debride a non-union fx in a sub-10# dog so I could place a tiny little ex fix (which I hadn't done for a least a decade, so astounding that it all worked...).

There's another perio elevator that I like better, takes a nicer edge, no idea what it is.

Dale
NigelSSI

Trad climber
B.C.
May 25, 2019 - 06:18am PT
I once forgot my sleeping bag on a climbing trip. The cold and generally sleepless nights in my not overly large backpack with all the clothes on I could scrounge have cured most of my stupidity regarding the truly important things. I at least pack before the last minute now.
Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
May 25, 2019 - 06:25am PT
The power of three's


Keys, Wallet, Phone

Skis, Boots, Poles

Cash, Pass, Gas

Dope, Pipe, Lighter ( aka 'The Three')

Hat, gloves, goggles.

Shoes, harness, rope





formerclimber

Boulder climber
CA
May 25, 2019 - 08:13am PT
Have to remember so many things these days... John Muir, I think, only took a loaf of bread with him going off for several days.
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
May 25, 2019 - 08:19am PT
For Reilly:

spare keys everywhere

Boy Scout Motto: Be Prepared


spare everything everywhere
formerclimber

Boulder climber
CA
May 25, 2019 - 08:29am PT
In the modern world, if you make a mistake and get in a bind - if you don't have a local family, etc to bail you out - you're going to be ripped off, subject to price gouging and hardly can count on any help without the above (or any help at all); this is what necessitates high levels of preparedness.
In addition, I would not want to be stuck somewhere at -80 windchill or +100 having to make quick decisions and not having what I need to last for days, or be killed on the roadside: there's no room for mistakes sometimes.
David Knopp

Trad climber
CA
May 25, 2019 - 01:40pm PT
periwig could you translate that last post into engrish for dummies?
zBrown

Ice climber
May 25, 2019 - 03:45pm PT
^I can

It is a dental tool in my post

A spatula specifically

A classic antique


I use it for everything but dentistry

He is taking about dentistry

rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
May 25, 2019 - 09:51pm PT
Skis , boots , poles like Brockwoman said....Did a ski race in Wenatchee and ended up in the bathroom warming my unit in the bathroom sink ...and wind briefs.... !
10b4me

Social climber
Lida Junction
May 25, 2019 - 10:04pm PT
he by rion. Rion? Yes, right rion! Oh, the big white lion

sad
overwatch

climber
Arizona
May 26, 2019 - 02:17am PT
I believe the priest thing is spectacles testicles wallet and watch, for when peeps carried their wallet and watch in a breast pocket
Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
May 26, 2019 - 07:14am PT
Testicles to keep the boys playing quietly?
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
May 26, 2019 - 07:59am PT
The stint I recently had implanted between my brain stem and my cerebral cortex is helping a lot.
formerclimber

Boulder climber
CA
May 26, 2019 - 08:07am PT
You careless people are gonna die...you're only this way cause you know someone is always bailing you out like yer "wife" or whoever. It's like "we" or "my wife" in every post.

I remember meeting that guy who traveled alone trough all Americas without money or belongings... he was bumming and well, stealing. He was from a village in Andes though, very different from wealthy folks who post here....it's ridiculous to brag about own stupidity when you got big bank account and 10 family members to call for rescue.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
May 26, 2019 - 09:04am PT
(zB, Actually Veterinary/Canine Medicine, but it takes a Gnome)


Don't Roll On A Bicycle if You Can't Afford to 'Roll' off one

Now that this is, then
"past a certain age"
When ~Stop-Drop & Roll~ is a challenge,
not a "Course Correction"
Go get on a stationary bike to take a ride.

I'm still drawn to climbing up small blocks of rock
I like big holds all the way up & step off top outsStill, A thing I know I should stop
no time to heal up if I survive falling down
As of a year ago the tally was me 90%
That other 10% ? Yeah, that's where the Countermeasures
Should kick in or kick me.
you would think that after all these years
I would have gained enough
I have gained a lot,
I am more than halfway too
almost as round as I am tall
yo, that ought to keep my ass on the ground
You would think
almost
but...
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2019 - 11:19am PT
My wife's counter measure of choice to combat my stupidity is the sticky note. This avoids confrontation yet is a constant assertion of her superior lucidity and my cognitive deterioration. There seems to be a concentration of notes left in my personal bathroom and around the toilet it particular.
perswig

climber
May 26, 2019 - 12:09pm PT
could you translate that last post into engrish for dummies?

Hey, David - zB's close, although I typically used winged elevators for gingival and periosteal flaps with our dental extractions.
Our Seldin elevator lives in one of our orthopedic surgery packs. With the burgeoning availability of referral veterinary specialists even in remote locations (say, coastal Maine!), we GP-types don't have to or get to do as much surgery or in-patient medicine anymore; thankfully I started just before this trend and had to manage our Addisonian and DKA crises, and do intestinal resections, liver lobectomies, and fracture repair, blah blah. Panicked the whole time, mind you.

Now it's just mostly fun.
The above was a little Chihuahua/min-pin cross with a fractured radius and ulna that one of my bosses conservatively (incorrectly) managed for the original owner. Both bones ended up with overlapping ends and fibrous adhesions but absolutely no stability, rendering that foreleg unusable. The owners were going to euth, so one of our techs took him, and we went to surgery, excavated extensively (Seldin and other tools) to yield healthy tissue at all 4 fracture ends, packed in a cancellous bone graft, and after some trial and error, placed a 4-pin, may have been 5?, external fixator (methyl methacrylate molded into a lateral bar). Would have been a good fit for a plate and screws but we've never had those, and the new owner couldn't have afforded the referral surgery.
If it hadn't worked, plan B was to lop the leg off, but he was young, liked his new hardware, was using the leg in less than two weeks and ended up healing really nicely. Win.

Now you're sorry you asked!
Dale

edit: and to the OP, my countermeasure to my own stupidity is to not propagate, so when Darwinism smacks me down, the gene pool will be a tiny bit strengthened, not weakened.
zBrown

Ice climber
May 27, 2019 - 10:34pm PT
So thanks for setting the records straight Dale. Now has anyone seen my tool? It is still missing.




Although mine is old I guess they are still available

Sure hope I remember where I put mine




23 SELDIN PERIOSTEAL
P23
Periosteal Elevators are designed for reflecting and retracting the mucoperiosteum after incisions of the gingival tissue. A large flat handle instrument with one sharp blade and one dulll blade for reflecting tissue. 10.7mm/13.2mm
MSRP
$98.86



https://www.hu-friedy.com/surgical/periosteals/23-seldin-periosteal
Gunkie

Trad climber
Valles Marineris
May 28, 2019 - 12:49pm PT
Heck, I just let my wife organize everything. Then, when we forget something I blame her.

Q.E.D.
Largo

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
May 28, 2019 - 01:00pm PT
A sangha. If I can't catch my own bullsh#t, someone there will.
Q- Ball

Mountain climber
but to scared to climb them anymore
May 28, 2019 - 02:26pm PT
Contractor,
Funny thought to the original post about hide a keys. I always got one somewhere.

I was way up greasy creek during a cold snap in East Tennessee, ice was not thick enough to hold my truck, so I went Rambo on it with an axe to drive arcross. I was tired and kicking ice chunks out of the way, reached down and found a worn out hide a key box.

I laughed to myself about some dumbass lost theirs, then put it in my ignition. Haha it was mine!
Radical Rebirth

Trad climber
Texas
May 28, 2019 - 03:19pm PT
Had a carabiner on my keys and I always clicked them up and under the wheel well of my van . For years I never took my keys on a climb.

On two occasions, after long days in the Mountains, I’ve returned to my vehicle only to find I had lost my keys. One trip up Mount Baldy in the winter I somehow lost everything that had ever existed in the pockets of my jacket- one of those gortex jackets with 73 different zipper pockets. My phone was gone, keys , old receipts, ID, phone numbers, spider webs - every pocket wide open and spit shine clean of all the contents. Climbed back up Baldy again the next day trying to find some remnant but in the deep snow it was all gone.

Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
May 28, 2019 - 03:23pm PT
I got married.

My mother thought it sorta worked.

Jury is still out.
telemon01

Trad climber
Montana
May 28, 2019 - 10:01pm PT
Skis
Boots
Poles
Gloves
Goggles
Skins

That’s our morning ski mantra, my kids have heard it from day one and still recite it to this day- 24 years later
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