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donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 27, 2019 - 05:29pm PT
I am starting a new discussion board and calling it SUPERBACKUP.

Basically the style will be the same as here. It will look the same and feel the same but the rules have changed: I love to moderate trolls.

Trolling will be tolerated until someone messages the moderators on our own thread (me and 9 others) who will initially warnings.

Posts will not be deleted by management.

Accounts will be suspended until people cool off.

Mad-Hatters will only be allowed to post x number of times a week.

Everything will be done by vote, 10 people will run the forum, who will in turn work for the forum members and not the other way around.

Posters will own their own content and be allowed to change their posts or delete them at any time, unless someone quotes them. When responding it will be a good idea to quote what you are responding to.

Each member will be screened to keep spammers off.

Only climbers and their friends allowed.

I think I can run a forum with minimal interaction, not as stringent as gunks.com. What the hell happened to that thing anyway?

The idea here is to create together, historical content which will have eternal significance and having backup, will never nowise be deleted. The forum will have a new MO.

smash, Smash, SMASH! - Songify This: "No matter what you've done you deserve respect, even if you make mistakes, your lovable, doesn't matter your looks, skills, or age or size or anything, your worthwhile, no one can ever take that away from you, your worthwhile, no one can ever take that away from you."
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2019 - 06:35pm PT
This is what I mean about too much moderation:

http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2650411;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;
ruppell

climber
Apr 27, 2019 - 06:41pm PT
I think I can run a forum with minimal interaction, not as stringent as gunks.com. What the hell happened to that thing anyway?

It died with the 90's. I'm pretty sure your ranting, lack of punctuation, and flat out take over of many threads lead to it's demise as well. Plus, it was run from Chris from the GCC. That combo was toxic. Maybe if he had ten jurors to help mitigate the sh#t show it would still be around. But most likely not.
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2019 - 07:12pm PT
Gunks.com was being migrated to a new version of the same, everything was in the process of being moved over. (I had nothing to do with it's demise, rather I spammed the spammers, and I still have some copies of the threads.) Then all of a sudden, seemingly, nothing! I asked the moderator to sell it to me, he just sat on it.

ruppell

climber
Apr 27, 2019 - 07:50pm PT
For f*#ks sake man go talk to Chris. He still owns the domain. Make him an offer to buy it then run it however you see fit. The site always sucked but maybe you'll change that.
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 28, 2019 - 06:39am PT
I asked him if it was for sale on facebook. No repose, as of yet.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Apr 28, 2019 - 09:57am PT
buahaha

superbackup.com is for sale!
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 28, 2019 - 01:04pm PT
Okay, I bought it:


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Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Apr 28, 2019 - 05:07pm PT
Wide fetish name has more class
L

climber
Just livin' the dream
Apr 28, 2019 - 05:15pm PT
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supperbackup.com

Hmmm....Supperbackup.com

Kinda makes me hungry......
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 28, 2019 - 05:35pm PT
"Wide fetish name has more class"

Maybe you don't understand what I'm doing.
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 28, 2019 - 05:44pm PT
Just got a response from Gunks.com. "not for sale. 6 more months of grad school, then back to the Valley." I suppose you should consider all those posts deleted. Perhaps he will make a book out of it and sell it. The TOS on these forms are that once you post you do not own the post anymore, right? I would like to change that, and this way the person who posts can be responsible for photos.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Apr 28, 2019 - 07:30pm PT
The problem with this proposed site, as with several other "history archives" that have been proposed/started, is that the principle people involved have a public persona that provides no sense of credibility regarding the nature of the moderation.

By stark contrast, SuperTopo has become what it is organically and without some "cause" that the forums needed to reflect.

I think that the fact that a NEW sense of "cause" has emerged around here, and that it's lawyer-driven, is the basis of the sense of betrayal among many long-time participants.

Good luck with the effort, but I won't bother with it.
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 28, 2019 - 09:59pm PT
All I am attempting to provide is a place where things don't disappear, as they have with gunks.com or now with supertopo. I have a friend who had all his posts deleted who tells of the massive obliteration of route and area information of others as well, without warning and seemingly without reason. It will only work if people gain an interest in it, which may never happen. All I want to do is create the possibility for this to happen in some kind of context where important contributions are insured to remain. What I think important would not count in this case. The ground rules need to change for this to take place. I trust you understand my concern. The goal of the project is preservation, something I did not think was important until now. It does not seem to me that WideFetish Forum is geared with the same intrests, maybe I am wrong? If someone has a better idea in mind (rather then do nothing) I would like to know what it is.
Mike.

climber
Apr 29, 2019 - 07:31am PT
"The TOS on these forms are that once you post you do not own the post anymore, right?"


I thought you had all the answers. Nope, just another jag-off trying to be cute.
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2019 - 07:40am PT
If I had all the answers Mike I probably would not be writing this post or this thread. I wonder what I would be doing instead. Probably not reading threads, right?

Now if I thought I had all the answers ... you really don't want a smart guy do you? The dumber the better.

What happened to your thumbnail Mike?

Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Apr 29, 2019 - 10:16am PT
Time for supper!
Gunkie

Trad climber
Valles Marineris
Apr 29, 2019 - 01:33pm PT
Gunks.com.... geez, it was like 6 isolated desk jockeys yammering back and forth every few days. I occasionally jumped in as a 7th isolated desk jockey. Nice folks, but Donny, you crushed that place like a penny placed on the train tracks. Besides, climbing in the Gunks only holds so many good stories.

donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2019 - 07:49pm PT
Sh#t! I spelled supper rather then superbackup!

Now I understand "Hmmm....Supperbackup.com

Kinda makes me hungry......" WTH!
Mtnmun

Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
Apr 29, 2019 - 07:58pm PT
If I get too much salt in the gravy, I will need a supper backup for sure.
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2019 - 08:07pm PT
They want $5,000 for superbackup.com. I offered them $300. Anyone go any ideas for a better name, you do you guys like supper?
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Apr 29, 2019 - 08:33pm PT
BackDoorTopo.com

YerGonnaDie.com

StupidTaco.com

GneissTits.com

WideFetish.com

NawMean.com
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2019 - 08:40pm PT
ok StupidTaco.com

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Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Apr 29, 2019 - 08:43pm PT
I like YerGonnaDie.com


Mass appeal
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2019 - 08:48pm PT
yergonnadie.com is taken
Domain Broker Service can help you get it.
Find alternate names below

Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Apr 29, 2019 - 08:52pm PT
Lol... you should probably take a typing class and hit up 39dollarglasses.com before you buy anymore mispelled domains
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Apr 29, 2019 - 09:28pm PT
Now go secure:

 MealAppeal.com
 What's For Dinner .com
&
 Superdinner.com.
&
maybe delete your adress in that last post?

Ya still show Lymes-Brain , don't ya think?
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2019 - 09:39pm PT
Well, I was already thinking about supertoco.com at the very moment you said stupidtoco, so I figured I saw a sign. I thought I had scoobysnacks.com before I spelled it correctly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWOFtixfies

Close enough to supertopo ... spell check has Ruined my life.
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2019 - 10:09pm PT
I got a refund for those two. Still need a name.
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2019 - 10:22pm PT
how about suppertaco.com ?

Lyme brain maybe, it's 1:30 pm that much I do know.
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Apr 30, 2019 - 12:44am PT
OK, still have a lot of trip reports to port... but I've got the site basically up and running for my personal repository:
https://nutagain.org/

It would be reasonably straight-forward to expand this type of design to be multi-user. The only reason I'm not offering it up now is because I'm not willing to sponsor the cost of the server infrastructure (although that would be pretty modest in the scheme of things... this is only a virtual server with 1 vCPU and 32GB storage, but it could scale up for a few hundred dollars per month to be a pretty beefy server that could handle the load of this community.
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 30, 2019 - 06:18am PT
Looks interesting.
A Essex

climber
Apr 30, 2019 - 08:24am PT
geritolverbaldiaherria.com
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
Wilds of New Mexico
Apr 30, 2019 - 08:48am PT
GneissTits.com

LOL!!!1111
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2019 - 11:06am PT
Well, according to my website developer it cost under $1000.00 to get it going. I wonder who would use it?
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - May 14, 2019 - 01:35pm PT
I am lost. Where are the different newsgroup software platforms one can buy? What about usenet? And then I just discovered what alt groups are, so it looks like moderation is always necessary. I don't want to monitor a newsgroup, but I would help get it going. Over all it looks impossible. At this point I am just going to think about it. Does anyone have any ideas? As creepy as supertopo is, I think they have been doing a lot of work all of which none of us has paid a penny for.
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
May 14, 2019 - 03:44pm PT
Right on Nut Again, nice site, keep it up . . .

Life beyond
the taco, lol. Is there such a thing???
LuckyPink

climber
the last bivy
May 14, 2019 - 08:58pm PT
there's your name

Beyondthetaco.com
overwatch

climber
Arizona
May 14, 2019 - 09:03pm PT
^^Hey, now!
Aeriq

Sport climber
100-year Visitor
May 14, 2019 - 09:12pm PT
I like Lucky Pinks idea, but this one is available and I think a lot more communal:

http://www.sierraclimber (without the "s").com

I was going to throw down, but I don't want the hassle...

Someone please buy this and make it work.

https://www.godaddy.com/domainsearch/find?checkAvail=1&tmskey=&domainToCheck=sierraclimber.com

I got the idea from my old hang "Cascadeclimbers", and "Sierraclimbers dot com" is a redirect.
Ballo

Trad climber
May 14, 2019 - 10:06pm PT
Missed opportunity: humblebrag.com
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - May 15, 2019 - 06:15am PT
Sierra climber sounds like a good idea, but now i think the bigger problem is what software to use, for me anyway. And another thing, look at this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/cats/comments/borh6u/cats_playing_on_the_ceiling/

Do you know what that means? It means that someone has been moderating supertopo and that's scary. If there is no moderator all hell breaks loose and I am nave to those kinds of alt threads. How much work is this going to be?
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - May 15, 2019 - 06:25am PT
I like the feel of this board below, what do you think? I hate that reddit and facebook, don't like the photo deal at the index.

I also do not like the posting on your own page idea, I would rather dump into a topic then a person. Topics are what its all about, can you imagine if all this junk on supertopo was in facebook? What a mess that would be.

[I am not so sure I want to do this, it might use up a lot of time.]

https://community.gravityforms.com/c/job-board
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
May 15, 2019 - 07:39am PT
Sierra Climber does nothing for me. The problem for me with ST has always been itís calicentricity. I would love a forum with more of a worldview.
Don Paul

Social climber
Washington DC
May 15, 2019 - 10:32am PT
Don if you are going to try to keep this going you need to negotiate with Chris to get the supertopo.com domain. Maybe link to ads for his topos and books. If you start over from scratch, I don't know if you would get the same group of people, which is what is irreplaceable. It's a concentration of US climbers who developed the sport. Cali centric, yes, but lots of Coloradans and I think it mainly reflects the demographics of American climbing in the past. If it's too focused on Yosemite, it may be because for many people including me, it gave us the most memorable climbing experiences.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
May 15, 2019 - 12:44pm PT
I also had many memorable experiences in Yosemite and it definetly was the place that prepared me for my alpine climbing.
Yosemite is still a major, major area, especially for bigwall, but itís influence has lessened in the last few decades. The climbing world has exploded, not only in the number of climbers but also in the number of venues.
When I first started climbing the Gunks, Tetons and Yosemite were the ďmust get toĒ climbing areas...sure has changed.
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
May 15, 2019 - 03:30pm PT
Light bulb moment: Donald Perry, you are that Lyme Disease dude right?

Holy sh#t... With that news you and Klimmer should for sure take over the forum. Let me know how I can help.
Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
May 15, 2019 - 03:41pm PT
I like turtles
overwatch

climber
Arizona
May 15, 2019 - 03:47pm PT
I like lamp
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - May 15, 2019 - 07:30pm PT
I have a feeling that this board is outdated and has some problems.

It would probably be better to start over with a well supported board that feels good, not like craigslist forms or reddit.

https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk form type looks okay if it is supported software. And, the advertisements would have to go only at the top and not in the middle of the threads.

A big problem is spam and how to eliminate it.

I'll ask if they will sell a link.


donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - May 15, 2019 - 08:22pm PT
The Washington Post has a simple forum:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-frustrated-by-advisers-is-not-convinced-the-time-is-right-to-attack-iran/2019/05/15/bbf5835e-1fbf-4035-a744-12799213e824_story.html?utm_term=.c0cad64f2f1e

But the discussions within discussions seems to be very stupid.
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2019 - 10:55am PT
i have got no call back from super T... getting ready to launch. Once I go there is no turning back, it's like getting married.

Jud observed: "you guys are no help with domain names"

I don't think there is an answer, the answer appears to be found in imperfect choices.

Buy Supertopo? Maybe later. Don't think the American ego can do that, look at gunks.com, that guy is going down with the ship all hands on board.







donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2019 - 11:06am PT
vBulletin regularly and automatically backs up their newsgroups, as well as it is downloadable to your computer. That means that anyone can have a copy of the whole site. VBulletin is literally the largest and most popular board program available. Yahoo!, NASA, nVidia, Skype, AMD, Capitol Records, Virgin Records, Warner Bros. Records, and SmartFTP), those are off the top of my head. If anyone is familiar with vBulletin let me know.

Who is interested in maintaining and moderating such a site? I don't think it is a good idea to do it alone.


donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2019 - 12:53pm PT
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
May 17, 2019 - 01:14pm PT
moretalkingthanclimbing.com is available...
johntp

Trad climber
Punter, Little Rock
May 17, 2019 - 01:31pm PT
I like lamp

overwatch, yer a lurker. Good to meet you and your brother in SoCal. Without the taco we would have never met.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
May 17, 2019 - 03:03pm PT
Is that a bulletin page copyrighted?

Just askiní
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
May 17, 2019 - 03:13pm PT
supertopoforum.com is available if Chris wouldn't mind.

Would be best if you could arrange to host what's already here instead of starting from scratch

If the name needs a change www.supertacoforum.com

Peace

Karl
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2019 - 06:07pm PT
That's starting off with a lot of memory, perhaps $300.00 a month. I would need members to pay a fee or make donations. Who is willing to do that?, is anyone willing to do that?
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2019 - 06:08pm PT
I bought a forum from VBulletin
RJ Spurrier

SuperTopo staff member
May 18, 2019 - 10:33am PT
DustyDreamer:
Thank you for raising concern about each author's rights to their content posted here.

I posted this on the Refugee thread, but it may be helpful to also have this restated here:

Please be aware that the previous Terms of Service which was in place for most of the Forum's 18-year history did not provide us the right to grant permission to use or display posted content except as part of SuperTopo services. So, while you can obviously feel free to copy and paste your own content, you will need to obtain permission from each individual author if you want to use their content. Simply posting here on SuperTopo does not make content public domain. Those who post retain all patent, trademark, and copyright to any content they submit, post, or display on SuperTopo. We do not have the right to give you permission to use other people's content.

rj
overwatch

climber
Arizona
May 20, 2019 - 07:50pm PT
overwatch, yer a lurker. Good to meet you and your brother in SoCal. Without the taco we would have never met

Right back at you John. Still am wowed by your generosity.
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado & Nepal
May 20, 2019 - 07:53pm PT
Donald Perry,tell us more about Vbulletin.

Maybe start a separate thread to discuss it?
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