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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 17, 2019 - 05:09pm PT
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11 years here has been a wonderful roller coaster! I love the crazy campfire and have mentioned just why on so many threads over so many years. This may sound over the top, but I've read so many books on WWII when the bad guys came in and people and culture disappeared. PLEASE, no offense owners of this site, but I can't think of another good simile......just pare it down about 90%.
So if you all disappear here please keep in touch with lynnie on FB.
Some might say, get a life fool, but I do have a great one! I just want to keep you all a part of it. Hugs.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Apr 17, 2019 - 05:22pm PT
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Lynne, you discovered this place 11 years ago, at a time when you needed something that you could not find.
But you found it here, and have drawn strength from it ever since.
Some of us fell off the path of normal a long, long time before you did. Like you, many of us didn't really know what was wrong, or where to go to find what was missing. But we found it in the climbing community, and, for the last three decades, part of that community has been on the web.
This forum, and rec.climbing before it, was as close to "home" as many of us had ever been. And even those of us who had some kind of real-life home/family/community still needed what we found online.
It now looks like this forum is going to go the way of rec.climbing, and that is a sad thing.
But, given the vast expansion of the web, we will probably be able to find new online communities and, who knows, maybe find many of our old ST friends there.
All the best.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 17, 2019 - 05:34pm PT
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Thanks, Ghost and johntp and so very sorry Klaus. I never thought about ST and the future. The future is forever veiled. We walk towards it with all kinds of emotions and goals. It's good to walk forward.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
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Apr 17, 2019 - 05:50pm PT
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OK Leichtfuss, just talked, what 24 hours ago....we fer sure need to get together for a serious food and drink session! All things pass, you of all know that, time heals, you of all know that and we will ALL still be friends when this phase moves on. You of all know that. So you, me and Kelly gotta get together!
Peace my great friend
I own the rights to all said above and this is not a politically motivated statement or thought
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 17, 2019 - 06:14pm PT
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Oh Yeah, Gomez. We will start the New Way in Jtree to celebrate rlf. All things change, yet stay the same. Cheers and we will remember.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Apr 17, 2019 - 06:25pm PT
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hey there say, lynne and all...
wow, i just wish and hope that folks stay...
you all share words... words (even without the images) can still
say so very much... and, we can imagine the trips, and
hopefully folks can share links...
i know, it is not like having a real chat, where we can 'pull out the magazines and books' and show all the neat pictures that we have seen, that
match everything that we want to say... but, i reckon, it is like:
talking by 'out fashioned' phone... we run to the books case, and grab the book and 'explain the photo' as best we can...
okay, okay, i know-- i am a bit, old fashioned, and different, that way...
but--
i try to find the light and best that i can in stuff...
i hope to still hear your WONDERFUL CLIMBS...
ADVENTURES... and, hope to still SHARE all your hopes and dreams...
and, hear health update and hopes that you and your families, will
be healthy and safe...
we really still CAN have a 'taco' here...
and, a quilt... not the same-- but,
it can still whether the storms of the world...
i've seen so many amazing things here, in the realm of
helping, others...
hearing hoping... :)
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Apr 17, 2019 - 07:38pm PT
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I’ve participated in a few forums over the years for my various passions and hobbies. Over active and arbitrary moderation has always been the death nell of a forum. It’s a shame that this forum has gathered the disparate climbing clan from various locals and eras and looks to be be facing a ground fall.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 17, 2019 - 07:42pm PT
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Well put Tolman_Paul!
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A Essex
climber
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Apr 17, 2019 - 08:00pm PT
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if we only knew the Mind of CMac
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Apr 17, 2019 - 09:04pm PT
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Lynne, I will always consider you a gem -- both in person and in cyberspace.
John
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d-know
Trad climber
electric lady land
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Apr 17, 2019 - 10:33pm PT
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Impermanence.
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John M
climber
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Apr 17, 2019 - 10:36pm PT
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Hey Lynne.. I didn't answer you on the photo thread.
Yes.. I use to post as Moosie and we did meet at TPR. I was on my way out of the park having to move out permanently, and you were in a time crunch, so we didn't get to talk, but it was nice meeting you.
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A Essex
climber
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Apr 18, 2019 - 05:24am PT
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think of ST as a Buddst mandala
I would post a visual, but....
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Apr 18, 2019 - 08:19am PT
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It’s not just the administratiors...the internet seems to breed weirdness. It is a repository for people to freely express their thoughts under an avatar cover and that doesn't necessarily draw out the best in people.
I don't think there is a place for a forum that is solely climbing oriented. The only threads that have any longevity are the ones where people can pontificate their “views” ad nauseam.
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Nick Danger
Ice climber
Arvada, CO
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Apr 18, 2019 - 09:17am PT
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Lynne, Although we have never met in person, we do share a common love of the deserts of Utah, of climbing, of boating. I have very much enjoyed your postings and your comments on some of my TRs. I, too, have found a digital community here that will sorely be missed. Might have to take the advice to move to the over 50 crowd on mountain project.
Since we are in a boat that is taking on water here, I might as well out myownself. My avatar of "Nick Danger" originated in the early 1970's when I used that name to sign in on trailhead registers and summit registers, such as they existed in Colorado and Wyoming. Nick may be my nom de plume, but Bob Dickerson is my given name.
I am going to miss all of you folks. Lynn, you have been an especially positive presence here, and I have very much appreciated that positive energy.
PEACE
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Apr 18, 2019 - 09:21am PT
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Donini, if this place folds, is there somewhere else you're going? I've really enjoyed your posts over the years.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Apr 18, 2019 - 09:33am PT
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bouldering88's plan is good, but my ISP doesn't even provide a news server anymore. And Google's web interface is too manky.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 18, 2019 - 09:37am PT
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Word on the street is the new happening site is sheepbuggerers.org.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Apr 18, 2019 - 10:11am PT
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It would be poignant that after all the complaints about how behind on tech ST is, to have people back on REcClimbing.
I am sort of sad to imagine losing this forum; my climbing has dwindled enough in recent years that I wouldn't feel right following to another site.
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A Essex
climber
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Apr 18, 2019 - 10:20am PT
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i heard there are these new sites: Fakebook and InstaSpam
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Apr 18, 2019 - 10:32am PT
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You guys are totalling missing the BULGEMELON II thread over at widefetish. It blooms as we speak.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Apr 18, 2019 - 10:50am PT
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Lynne, Sent you a FB Friend request. New friends like you have made this place a treasure.
I've deleted my questionable photos and vow not to post politics. I will stay but maybe less active for reasons not related to the recent pruning.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 18, 2019 - 11:37am PT
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Dudettes and Dudes, thanks for all the comments as well as the kind words!
Neebee, I'd never have an original hand painted oil portrait of Dan if not for this campfire. Thank you for you and all you contribute !!!
Savage, friend request confirmed. Great idea to start now getting connected.
Happiegrrrl2, fun times we had that day climbing with the Gordobots in Josh...Todd, Tucker, Wendell etc. As well as the fun time fooling around with John Stannard as we put up my tent in C-4. I was new and needed all the help I could get. Pro would never have connected but for ST.
Reilly, I can always count on you for a chuckle.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 18, 2019 - 01:27pm PT
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AND, pardon my saying so, but I never would have found out about Facelift if it hadn't been for ST. I wouldn't have played one good harmonica riff (in 10 years, not bad) never would have met NITA and ANDY and all my other great compadres....but I'm secure.
It's just those coming up behind me. It's those that actually find their Dad on ST, yes that happened here. It's the many condolences sent out to grieving loved ones. Shoot, that's how I found this place.
Do you remember that for many years Jerry Dodrill had a remembrance thread here where all our lost tribe members were listed. Listen to me, talking about the tribe. I never knew what the tribe was until a few years back.
Edit: ForeverPumped, I changed it.
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Apr 18, 2019 - 02:15pm PT
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Ugh!
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mynameismud
climber
backseat
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Apr 18, 2019 - 02:24pm PT
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there is always mud n crud they do not own pictures and do not want to
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Apr 18, 2019 - 03:23pm PT
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Speaking of gone ,where’s Jebus?
Sad.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Apr 18, 2019 - 04:14pm PT
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For the record if I disappear it is not voluntary. It will be because I got nuked for calling out RJ in a blatant lie for claiming that Tad left voluntarily.
From an email conversation I just had with Tad.
Hi Nick, you don’t have to call him out or make a big scene of it.
If you want, your call, you can post this for me;
“I didn’t request my posts be removed , I was deactivated and my posts purged before I had a chance to reply to his last post directed at me which he has since deleted.”
If you lied about Tad how do we know that you did not lie about DMT? how can we trust anything you say? How does this not affect your credibility for whatever climbs that you have claimed to have done in whatever style they were reported as????
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Apr 18, 2019 - 04:17pm PT
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Nick,you are pure gold man,here or otherwise. You are living it.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Apr 18, 2019 - 05:15pm PT
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likewise, I am not going to full on leave unless they nuke me without my consent.
have already got rid of all copyright/external postings, but I do have thoughts that sometimes run political, so....
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Apr 18, 2019 - 05:26pm PT
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Again,likewise.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 18, 2019 - 06:54pm PT
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Mom, "OK kids, don't load photos you don't own and no politics please."
Then Dad comes home from his tour of duty and the hammer falls.
No disrespect meant.....seemed like a good simile for how attitudes change.
Edit: Just saying here there are ultimatums and then the BIG ultimatum. I think the BIG one took a few by surprise.
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johntp
Trad climber
Punter
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Apr 18, 2019 - 07:49pm PT
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For the record if I disappear it is not voluntary. It will be because I got nuked for calling out RJ in a blatant lie for claiming that Tad left voluntarily.
I had a similar exchange with Tad.
Have no clue where this forum is headed. I don't plan to leave, but it does seem a 20 pound sledge hammer has been used where a ball peen hammer would have done the job.
Just who has placed the hosts under notice of a lawsuit for copy right infringement? Why?
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 18, 2019 - 07:58pm PT
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I've noted that several people have deleted their posts on this thread....oh well.
It's Easter, a special season for me.....all about rebirth and resurrection. It could happen here.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Apr 18, 2019 - 08:42pm PT
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Keep on shining Lynne!
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Apr 18, 2019 - 09:02pm PT
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Hi Lynne
I second Mr Dorworth's opinion
Looks like your "moon shots" survived pretty well
Mfm and my fotos are gone
Mine definitely did not violate copyright
You could tell by the amateurish nature
A link I put in is still there
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Apr 18, 2019 - 09:15pm PT
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I clicked on bouldering 88 ‘s link, and though his was a thoughtful gesture, I was reminded of why I stopped. Going over there.
Back to Widefetish!
Where glory starts at four inches!
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tornado
climber
lawrence kansas
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Apr 18, 2019 - 10:13pm PT
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When I wake up tomorrow morning I hope Celine Dion is gone. Barf.
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Apr 19, 2019 - 06:32am PT
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Whoa, Tradman, that's messed up. I never met Tad, but I did here and always enjoyed his posts. It was cool to see his van buildup thread. All gone. WTF? Went climbing in Pine Creek yesterday. That was good! Here's a pic that I effin' own:
I hope most of you continue to post if the forum stays up. I hope to meet you someday, Lynnie. We have mutual friends--Aeriq and Justthemaid.
BAd
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Apr 19, 2019 - 07:20am PT
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Not sure what to think about what's been going down here this week. Looking back at my time on this site - I realize how many of my meaningful experiences and relationships over the last decade were made possible through ST . It's my hope that when the dust settles, the site will continue in some form and a lot of us will still be around.
People having hissy fits , overreacting and deleting their accounts makes me sad- I wish they could just walk away and stop posting without scorching the earth and destroying the continuity of many of the threads forever. I talked my husband off that ledge and months later- he's relieved he didn't pull that trigger. It's selfish IMPO.
As a side story- BITD... rockclimbing.Com underwent a similar transformation. They changed owners- photo hosting disappeared overnight (eliminating every photo that wasn't a click-link) and there were some other changes that weren't so great initially pissing a bunch of people off. There was a mass exodus here to ST ( Me, Happi, DMT, Dirtineye, and Cosmic moved here at that time- just to name just a few i can remember off the top of my head) That site persevered and many of the friendships continued, so I dont despair.
Peace To everyone
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Apr 19, 2019 - 08:49am PT
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Just learned that Moosedrool is gone. :-( Dear friends go, and some stay.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 19, 2019 - 09:06am PT
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It’s just physics - the sun comes out and the snowflakes melt.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 19, 2019 - 01:47pm PT
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Thanks for letting me know zBrown! Appreciate! And again thanks for the kind thoughts you guys. The climbing community is different from the real world. It accepts nearly anyone and helps out where it can and does it quickly unlike people in "regular life." imho
zBrown and anyone, can you find out if the first thread I ever posted is still there? I can't even remember the name, but it was tons of pictures of several bouldering contests in So Cal back in the late 70's early 80's.
If you can tell me how to check threads I've posted I'd also appreciate that. Gracias!
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John M
climber
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Apr 19, 2019 - 02:21pm PT
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Lynne, I looked through your photo file. It looks to me like your file is safe. I couldn't find any offending photos. Could be wrong, but I didn't see any.
I couldn't figure out which thread you meant.
Here is a link to a list of what I believe is all of the threads that you started.
http://www.supertopo.com/forumsearch.php?v=0&cur=0&ftr1=&ftr2=&ftr3=&ftr4=Lynne+Leichtfuss&scope=topics
The way I found it was to search for something like bouldering. Then when on the search page. delete bouldering. Add your name to Author nickname line. then click below that.. Search only forum topics.
hope that helps.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
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Apr 19, 2019 - 02:24pm PT
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Lynnie you can also go up to the search, go to forum and next to it type in your copyright name. All of your posts that you legally owned and have apparent copyright to should be posted there....if of course they were not deleted without your prior knowledge or permission, which of course is apparently not needed or considered here.
Peace
You coming over this weekend? Did Kelly talk with you yet?
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 19, 2019 - 02:52pm PT
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Hey thanks John M and Ron! I think my family has nabbed me for Sunday....
Tomorrow my van goes in for its 200,000 mile check up. Hoping and praying for the best or I'll be starting a "Vehicle" thread. Cheers. :)
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ron gomez
Trad climber
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Apr 19, 2019 - 03:24pm PT
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Well have a blast girl.....we still gotta get together.
Peace
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 19, 2019 - 05:44pm PT
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Not exactly sure what you mean. But all of us that knew and loved rfl have pics of him. I have a bunch I took and so they are "safe."
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 19, 2019 - 05:52pm PT
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zBrown....big hugs, so cool!!!, not the thread I was looking for but loved seeing these. I'd totally forgotten about them. So good to see Wendell, TGT, he was a super person to climb with even tho some didn't care for his politics. Again, big THX!
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JOEY.F
Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
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Apr 19, 2019 - 06:24pm PT
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I haven’t posted much, as I haven’t climbed much for a couple of years. But a thought, I would not have reconnected with POTECB (princess of the El Cap bridge) Denise Umstot, who was my next door neighbor in SF, and enjoying being with her and her new son, Soren (captain obvious) ,when he was so young. 15+ year gap... and meet her along with Russ Lenarz, (Slakey) at Facelift. If it wasn’t for this place, that wouldn’t have happened. Among many other attributes, that’s why I like it here.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 19, 2019 - 07:04pm PT
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zBrown, Dude! You found it!!! I will go through it to see if I need to delete anything. Is it possible to save these threads somewhere? Your gift is better than a Chocolate Bunny, THX!!! :)
Blanck1, I think we are all working thru it. Susan Walker was right, don't jump ship right yet.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Apr 19, 2019 - 07:08pm PT
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Lynne
The short answer is
I will save it for you
For now
Though it likely is not going anywhere
Will explain it all at a later time
👌
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 19, 2019 - 08:12pm PT
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So much thanks!!! Late works. Cheers. :)
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Apr 20, 2019 - 07:26am PT
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Lynne, regarding your thread:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/603398/Some-Old-Pics-and-Slides-Soon-Ready-for-ST-Viewing
I saved a copy of it in PDF on January 27, 2019.
At that time, all of your pictures, or most of them except for some which you had either deleted or moved within your photo hosting site, were intact.
I just put it in dropbox for you and sent you the link. As of the time of this message, it hasn't completed loading. You might need to give it an hour or so.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
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Apr 20, 2019 - 07:37am PT
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Nice Roy! The bouldering thread was a classic.
Peace
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Apr 20, 2019 - 07:44am PT
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If you would like a copy of Ron, please just let me know.
And for that matter: I saved a number of valuable threads to PDF. It is not in any way a comprehensive compilation, but I do have some stuff.
If any of you are curious whether or not I saved one of yours, and you would like to have a copy, just send a query to my Gmail account at: rcmcclenahan
(They are alphabetized, so I will need to know the exact title)
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ron gomez
Trad climber
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Apr 20, 2019 - 08:19am PT
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The photo content was really cool. To see those pictures sure brought back TONS of great memories, times and friendships. It really is a disgust that legal junk has to get in the way of truly harmless intent. I know attorneys serve a great purpose, but man, can some of the lemons really screw it up.
Hope you and your bride are well Roy
Peace
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Apr 20, 2019 - 08:38am PT
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It's disgraceful Ron, there's no other way to put it.
That they feel they were forced into this move, is the only allowance I can see.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 20, 2019 - 09:43am PT
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Tar, I suspect there are copyright vultures who work like those that go around looking for small out-of-the-way companies that are not up to speed on the latest disability access requirements. They literally blackmail these small companies.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Apr 20, 2019 - 12:01pm PT
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Hi Lynne
It appears that tB has you covered. I saved the thread as it existed yesterday.
So my work here is finished. I'm going to meet up with Tonto.
Take care or take care of business (business ain't gonna take care of you)!
Do not know if this one is legal. I took the photo, but the kat is feral and refused to paw the form.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Apr 20, 2019 - 12:50pm PT
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Ours was called Marmaduke. They like to eat!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 20, 2019 - 03:03pm PT
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Tarbuster, as usual you are awesome! Thanks! Your Tuolumne Thead is awesome. Do you have that in hand as well?
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johntp
Trad climber
Punter
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Apr 20, 2019 - 07:38pm PT
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It's disgraceful Ron, there's no other way to put it.
That they feel they were forced into this move, is the only allowance I can see.
Tar, I suspect there are copyright vultures who work like those that go around looking for small out-of-the-way companies that are not up to speed on the latest disability access requirements. They literally blackmail these small companies.
Yeah, pretty much the way I read it after thinking about it. CMac has a few financial endeavors that are more financially profitable. To let us run rampant on the forum at risk of his other economic interests does not make sense. If he has been threatened with law suits based on the forum, he has to keep silent pending the results of litigation.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Apr 20, 2019 - 07:47pm PT
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Hell yes, Lynne: I saved my Tuolumne threads.
Well, I mean the one I did as a trip report in 2011. My only official trip report! Ain't that grand!
As for the Tuolumne Meadows Appreciation thread: I saved that one also, December 30, 2017!
It's good to know that's how it goes ...
Hugs and kisses,
Roy
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Apr 22, 2019 - 03:57pm PT
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FCK.. What happened to Moose?
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