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Chief
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The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 24, 2018 - 10:42am PT
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It used to be Bob and Doug MacKenzie and there are others.
I'm going to fess right up and say that from my narrow view of the world, these guys nail it.
https://youtu.be/F-glHAzXi_M
And then there's Letterkenny.
https://youtu.be/_KLSbCtinXs
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Dec 24, 2018 - 10:55am PT
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Looks like we need another wall,lol.
Kidding,just. Not much different than over here.
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hamie
Social climber
Thekoots
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Dec 24, 2018 - 11:21am PT
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Kinda like military intelligence?
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Dec 24, 2018 - 11:31am PT
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The RED GREEN show
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Dec 24, 2018 - 12:41pm PT
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like the Department of Justice
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Dec 24, 2018 - 01:00pm PT
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Canadian culture peaked with the Trailer Park Boys.
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MH2
Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
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Dec 24, 2018 - 01:37pm PT
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Hey. Any trees down out your way? Got hydro? Lots of opportunity for a saw out where we are.
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Chief
climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2018 - 01:38pm PT
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Buddy with the thick glasses was an immediate deal breaker for me so I’ve never watched an episode of TPB.
Most of the Canadian population lives an urban lifestyle within a hundred miles of the US border.
Then there’s the rest of us.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 24, 2018 - 01:42pm PT
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This story sums it up.
Driving to the Chossies from Seattle we stopped at the BC Liquor Store in Skookumchuck.
It was a weekday and there wasn’t a car in the lot. Go figure. Walked in - not one customer.
Five employees were standing at their positions looking at us. Well, it appeared they were
looking at us but after a couple of seconds it was obvious that they had the dreaded 1000 yd
stare. The radio was blaring full blast - the first Soviet/ Canada Cup. I realized there was no
point in expecting any service so we waited for a break in the action. It took quite a while but
finally the puck got swallowed by somebody, or something like that. The zombies suddenly
awoke and feverishly saw to our needs. Luckily our needs were simple.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Dec 24, 2018 - 02:46pm PT
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I played hockey for 45 years,hung em up 9 years ago when I turned 50.
I have been in every province,love the place. [Click to View YouTube Video]
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hamie
Social climber
Thekoots
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Dec 24, 2018 - 03:20pm PT
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BTO BTO BTO
Had to type it 3 times, as the system would not accept just the three letters "BTO"!
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Dec 24, 2018 - 05:00pm PT
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Buddy with the thick glasses was an immediate deal breaker for me so I’ve never watched an episode of TPB.
Ah, Perry, you're such an old fuddy-duddy. One of my sons gave me some Trailer Park Boys episodes on DVD a while back, and I've been hooked ever since.
Maybe it's just that, living in the US, I'd forgotten what humor was. Seriously, can any of you Americans imagine a US network comedy show with an early episode entitled "Mrs. Peterson's Dog Gets F*#ked Up"?
Thank gods I've moved back north. (And, yeah, I looked for you in the grocery store (where we last met) yesterday when I was in Squamish, but you weren't there.)
And what about "Kids in the Hall"?
And the best skiing in the world?
And Hockey Night In Canada?
Best wishes for the holidays
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Dec 24, 2018 - 05:03pm PT
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Most people spell the name of the country wrong. The proper spelling uses only 3 letters, all consonants - CND.
C, eh? N, eh? D, eh?
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Dec 24, 2018 - 05:27pm PT
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Orr,is it Aye?
And,Bobs not your uncle.
Good wishes to you all as well!
(In Canada you can misspell as long as a classic hockey players name is used)
Lol
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 24, 2018 - 05:39pm PT
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So we’re gonna be name droppers, eh? This wuz fer sale in the eponymous museum.
Sadly, I had flown there so it just wasn’t on. Oh, 1 pt for Hosers and 20 points for Yanks
if you know the town.
A bonus 20 pts for the Hoser who knows the rare reptile found very nearby,
and I don’t mean in a bar. Yanks need not apply.
And talk about coinkidinks - La Femme just showed me a scandalous pic from
Liard Hot Springs - hands down the best on the planet, as long as you don’t get et by a griz.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Dec 24, 2018 - 05:42pm PT
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I know the town well.
Isn’t it Aye?
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JTBach
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Dec 24, 2018 - 11:03pm PT
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A different part of the culture:
I went to visit a girl who lived in Sylvan Lake, Alberta and do some climbing in the Rockies and Bugs. While I was with the girl the provincial workers started a work action for more pay. They didn't all go on strike, just those that they thought would draw the public's attention. They were right. It was the prison guards and beer store workers that went on strike.
And while they are the epitome of Canadiana to us dumb southerners (i.e., 'Mericans) the RCMP aren't the nicest people in the country. The jail in the Red Deer, Alberta RCMP post is in the basement. I was told by the girl I was visiting that no one being brought down to the jail made it all the way down on their feet. She should know, her brother was one who didn't make it all the way down.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Republic, WA
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Dec 25, 2018 - 09:11am PT
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I'm still impressed by the Psyche Ledge party. Never a peep from the LEOs. Anywhere in the States and the authorities would have shut it down at least or busted someone in the process. Even though it is a rather peaceful gathering it wouldn't fly down here. That's quite an improvement over getting thrashed for trying to crash the local high-school graduation party like Daryl and Dave did.
Cheers y'all.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Dec 25, 2018 - 05:30pm PT
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Culture,indeed. [Click to View YouTube Video]
I don’t care if it’s Budgie,Trooper,Prisim,Great Big Sea or the Sadie’s,Canada has always had great music.
Merry Christmas.
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Jan 19, 2019 - 03:24pm PT
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Nirvanna the Band the Show. not all that funny but really interesting idea for making a series.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 19, 2019 - 06:09pm PT
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So is foie gras still legal in Canada? It must be if poutine is.
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Timmc
climber
BC
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Jan 19, 2019 - 07:59pm PT
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Thank you Gary. That GG clip is incredible.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Jan 19, 2019 - 08:12pm PT
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jan 19, 2019 - 08:31pm PT
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That GG clip is incredible.
Isn't it? A clip from a forgotten time.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Jan 22, 2019 - 07:31pm PT
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Anders that escalation will lead to no good!
It is kind of amoosing tho
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 10, 2019 - 04:39pm PT
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Canadian...culture. Alliterative but antithetical.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Mar 10, 2019 - 04:58pm PT
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Great photo malemute!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Mar 10, 2019 - 05:18pm PT
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Nor am I,but,pond hockey,you bet!
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Yury
Mountain climber
T.O.
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Mar 10, 2019 - 05:37pm PT
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Lituya:
https://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/2181894/canada-again-takes-moral-high-ground
"Ottawa’s decision to detain Huawei executive Sabrina Meng Wanzhou and accept Saudi teenage political refugee Rahaf Mohammed Alqunun are both examples of a deep-seated impulse to do the right thing even if it means facing unpleasant consequences." Cases of Sabrina Meng Wanzhou and Rahaf Mohammed Alqunun should not be bundled together because they are of totally different nature.
In case of low profile Rahaf Mohammed Alqunun it was a trade off between progressive values and irritating Saudis.
Apparently the risk was not that high.
In case of high rank Huawei executive it was a trade off between following orders from Washington, DC and irritating Chinese.
As a Canadian patriot, Trudeau needed:
 to follow American orders (otherwise Canada/Canadians may be punished by the US)
not to irritate Chinese (otherwise Canada/Canadians may be punished by the China)
It was an interesting challenge and Trudeau failed to find a proper solution because he was not smart enough.
For example Trump told that he was not told about this case in advance, while Trudeau told that he was informed but made a political decision to comply with American request.
Here I am not talking about progressive smart, but about street smart.
Any teenager from a rough neighborhood would have figured out that the only proper response should have been a discreet communication with Chinese about American request.
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yanqui
climber
Balcarce, Argentina
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Mar 10, 2019 - 05:43pm PT
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The recent stuff seems to be about (or aboot) SNC-Lavalin.
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Yury
Mountain climber
T.O.
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Mar 10, 2019 - 05:49pm PT
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SNC-Lavalin case generated a lot of noise, but in reality nothing serious has happened. It looks like it's used to make sure that Trudeau is not reelected in October.
On the other hand Meng Wanzhou's case has not been resolved yet.
As a retaliation and a way to apply pressure, every few weeks Chinese arrest one or two Canadians with apparently made up excuses.
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Ben Harland
Gym climber
Kenora, ON
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Mar 10, 2019 - 05:54pm PT
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The mood here, from what I see, is let's see what the deal is with SNC Lavelin. It doesn't seem to be too bad, but why is Trudeau playing so coy? I sure hope it doesn't take him out like Martin got hosed by the sponsorship scandal.
Back to culture -- I don't know if this made it south of the border, but in the 90's Bruce Macdonald made a string of road movies that were big for kids in my generation: "Road Kill", "Highway 61", "Dance Me Outside", "Hard Core Logo".
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Mar 10, 2019 - 05:55pm PT
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I believe that the Canadians' inherent fear of the dark has had positive effects in the snowbird communities of America.
It seemed inevitable that we would need to invade Canadia until the admirable performance of those Canadian teenagers at the ski area rescue. More study is necessary.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Ben Harland
Gym climber
Kenora, ON
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Mar 10, 2019 - 06:26pm PT
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Well Jim, I can dig a higher ethical standard. I would hope it doesn't run too deep. Butts throwing in the towel makes me very nervous.
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Yury
Mountain climber
T.O.
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Mar 10, 2019 - 06:46pm PT
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Jim Brennan:
Canada and the USA have a mutually binding treaty that compels each nation to prosecute domestic legal extradition proceedings for individuals charged with a crime in either nation's jurisdiction.
Jim Brennan, I am not sure that you understand that from formal point of view, Meng Wanzhou has not violated any US law (on US territory) or international law (outside US).
You also may not be aware that US law is not applicable outside US (again, from theoretical point of view of international law).
It means that formally, extradition request for violation of US sanctions against Iran was politically motivated and could have been rejected.
I understand that US has largest military and can do whatever they want, but this doesn't make such behavior legal.
Again, Trudeau's decision was politically motivated and not the smartest one.
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Yury
Mountain climber
T.O.
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Mar 10, 2019 - 08:06pm PT
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Jim Brennan:
If you're wanted in the USA and find yourself in Canada, you are exposed to being extradited to the USA. Jim Brennan, I agree with you.
Many countries are willing to comply with US extradition requests because US has the largest military and economy and can punish them in case of non-compliance.
So Canada should also accommodate all legal and illegal US extradition requests with just a few exceptions. Meng Wanzhou was such exception.
The only real way to dispute this is if the individual has a refugee claim against the nation demanding their extradition. No, it's not the only exception.
1. Typically such extradition agreements have a clause preventing extradition in case it's politically motivated.
2. You have also described another exception yourself:
Jim Brennan:
Canada and the USA have a mutually binding treaty that compels each nation to prosecute domestic legal extradition proceedings for individuals charged with a crime in either nation's jurisdiction.
Violation of anti-Iran US sanctions that happened outside US territory is neither domestic nor in US jurisdiction.
Again, my main point is that Trudeau should have avoided Meng Wanzhou's arrival to Canadian territory altogether.
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Mar 10, 2019 - 08:46pm PT
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My only complaint about Canadian culture is how expensive the beer has become. I recall they were charging about $12/six pack in Canmore back in 2012. WTF? Is that still the case? Different prices in different regions? I'd become a home brewer at those rates. Ugh. Love the Great White North even so.
BAd
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Mar 10, 2019 - 08:54pm PT
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My only complaint about Canadian culture is how expensive the beer has become. I recall they were charging about $12/six pack in Canmore back in 2012. WTF? Is that still the case? Different prices in different regions? I'd become a home brewer at those rates. Ugh. Love the Great White North even so.
I don't know sh#t about Trudeau or extradition, or hockey, or...
...but I do know about beer.
After 20 years working in Seattle (arguably the beer ceapital of the universe), I moved back to Canada late last year. And not to Vancouver, but to a tiny city on the coast well north of Vancouver. And yes, I was worried about the price and availability of good beer. But, sometime in the last ten years, the pendulum has swung, and good beer is far cheaper here in Powell River than in Seattle.
True, the selection isn't as wide, but there is plenty to choose from, and one of my favorite Belgian beers sells here for just over a third the Seattle price.
Cheers!
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Mar 10, 2019 - 09:00pm PT
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Wow, Ghost, thanks! It's now safe to travel north again. Time to dust off my passport card.
BAd
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hamie
Social climber
Thekoots
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Mar 11, 2019 - 11:05am PT
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I'm with Ghost on this one. As far back as I can remember, the first thing which we would do on driving into the US would be to stop at a gas station and stock up on cheap gas and cheap beer----a combination which we found a little perplexing. Returning to Canada we would always bring back 24 bottles/cans, duty free. Last week I drove back from Spokane with zero beers, the first time in decades. US beer is now equally or more expensive than Canadian brews.
So much for the question of price....let's NOT get into a discussion of taste, selection, strength etc!!
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Ben Harland
Gym climber
Kenora, ON
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Mar 11, 2019 - 11:59am PT
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I know this isn't quite what you guys are talking about, but you can still buy 30 PBR's for $16.50 in Michigan -- the cheapest I dare to go in Ontario is $35.50 for a case of Maclays. So I still bring my cube back across the border with me. I'm sure to offer to pay the duty on the extra six, but haven't been taken up on it yet.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Mar 11, 2019 - 12:09pm PT
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True, the selection isn't as wide, but there is plenty to choose from, and one of my favorite Belgian beers sells here for just over a third the Seattle price.
Vancouver wouldn’t know a really hoppy beer if it bit them.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Mar 11, 2019 - 12:24pm PT
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When I'd go to Nelson, I'd get avocados and maple syrup to bring back. If I remember correctly, avos were something like $.50 up there and $2 here. As far as culture goes, I always loved getting the hell outa N. ID and cruising into the lovely and welcoming Eastside of Kootenay lake.
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Yury
Mountain climber
T.O.
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Mar 11, 2019 - 07:35pm PT
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Ghost:
... good beer is far cheaper here in Powell River than in Seattle.
... one of my favorite Belgian beers sells here for just over a third the Seattle price. Ghost, I have a suspicion that you are Putin's/Trudeau's troll and that the only goal of your inflammatory post was to sow discord and undermine American democracy.
Could you please share a price of your favorite Belgian beer in Seattle and in Powell River?
Could you please also share the name of this Belgian beer.
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hamie
Social climber
Thekoots
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Mar 11, 2019 - 09:31pm PT
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Yury
Mountain climber
T.O.
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Mar 12, 2019 - 04:08am PT
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I prefer Belgian white.
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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Mar 12, 2019 - 07:25am PT
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I'm with Jim B. Remarkable beer in any province or state.
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Mar 12, 2019 - 07:39am PT
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So what IS the price of a middle of the road Canadian and/or other country's sixer? In Bishop, I'm getting decent brews (Beck's, LongBoards, etc.) for about $12/twelve pack or approx. $1/bottle. How does Kanuckistan compare?
BAd
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Mar 12, 2019 - 09:29am PT
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Canadian...culture. Alliterative but antithetical. I gotta agree. Beautiful country. Pretty nice people. No noticeable culture. Please don't tell me that Leonard Cohen counts.
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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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Mar 12, 2019 - 09:45am PT
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So what IS the price of a middle of the road Canadian and/or other country's sixer? In Bishop, I'm getting decent brews (Beck's, LongBoards, etc.) for about $12/twelve pack or approx. $1/bottle. How does Kanuckistan compare?
BAd
$12 US is like $16 Canadian.
Check some prices here
http://www.bcliquorstores.com/product-catalogue?category=beer
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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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Mar 12, 2019 - 09:53am PT
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I can get a 2L growler fill for $12 to $16 at a brewery. Haven't bought much bottled beer in the last 5 years.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Mar 12, 2019 - 10:00am PT
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Ghost, I have a suspicion that you are Putin's/Trudeau's troll and that the only goal of your inflammatory post was to sow discord and undermine American democracy.
Could you please share a price of your favorite Belgian beer in Seattle and in Powell River?
Could you please also share the name of this Belgian beer.
I wasn't planning to undermine American democracy, but my secret plan was to undermine American beer prices. If I can get enough American Supertopians to understand that they are being seriously ripped off, they will lead a massive protest movement to make good beer affordable again.
The Belgian beer I was referring to is the one front and center in Jim's photo, above. Gulden Draak, from Brouwerij van Steenberge. Long one of my favorites, but which I pretty much had to give up drinking when the price went through increase after increase, to the point that a 750 ml bottle now retails for US$16.49 in Seattle.
So imagine my joy when I found it in the local liquor store here in Powell River for CAD$3.89 for a 333 ml bottle.
Now, to get a true comparison, you have to add tax (10% in Washington, 15% in BC), convert the currencies, and adjust for bottle size. Doing all that gives a per ml price 2.38 times higher in Seattle. So, the 750 mls for which a Seattle resident pays US$18.14 (after tax) would go for just US$7.61 if he could get it at the price I pay here.
Time to man the barricades my American friends!
Edit to add: To compare selection and price of other beers, as well as wines and spirits, follow the link in Oplopanax's post, above (http://www.bcliquorstores.com/product-catalogue?category=beer);. The current conversion rate is almost exactly CAD = 0.75USD. Although, as I mentioned above, tax is 15% in BC vs 10% in WA.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 12, 2019 - 10:33am PT
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Mar 12, 2019 - 06:24pm PT
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Chief you used to work in logging camps?
I worked in the oilpatch in the early 80's.
I am sure that we have experienced the finest in Canadian culture, especially in the local bars
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