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AntiChrist

Gym climber

Urth

Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 10, 2018 - 07:08pm PT

StupidTaco is always my go to source for political updates, but I'm not finding anything. Anything new? What's the president up to these days?

Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber

moving thru

Dec 10, 2018 - 08:02pm PT

Johnny Mac, wonder what he's up to now?

mouse from merced

Trad climber

The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.

Dec 10, 2018 - 08:25pm PT

Fritz

Social climber

Choss Creek, ID

Dec 10, 2018 - 08:26pm PT

2018 Elections update

Despite the active early input of several foul-mouthed, right-wing haters, that thread made it to 900 posts & today, before getting locked. (How tidy of management to lock it at exactly 900 posts;)

I agree there is a need for a thread for political news & opinion. The more schist-talk, the quicker they get locked, as gifted-amateur haters like some here, have somehow figured out.

rottingjohnny

Sport climber

Sands Motel , Las Vegas

Dec 10, 2018 - 08:30pm PT

Cosmic giving moose the bird was the last straw...

Jon Beck

Trad climber

Oceanside

Dec 10, 2018 - 08:39pm PT

Cosmic giving moose the bird was the last straw...

serious party fowl

Lituya

Mountain climber

Dec 10, 2018 - 09:56pm PT

Seems to me all the banninations around here have been foul-mouthed liberal screamers and death-threat makers. Are you on board too, Fritz?

Gary

Social climber

Desolation Basin, Calif.

Dec 11, 2018 - 04:56am PT

Kavanaugh disappointed the anti-abortion people.

7SacredPools

Trad climber

Ontario, Canada

Dec 11, 2018 - 05:39am PT

Why do people that hate political threads post on political threads about how much they hate political threads?

Fritz

Social climber

Choss Creek, ID

Dec 11, 2018 - 07:54am PT

Lituya! Re your remark:

Seems to me all the banninations around here have been foul-mouthed liberal screamers and death-threat makers. Are you on board too, Fritz?

I suppose it would seem that way to you, while it seems to me like far more conservatives, who just can't restrain themselves, have been tossed.

It's likely a world-view sort of thing. Usually, it seems like my glass is 3/4 full, while you may be bothered that yours is 1/4 empty.

That said, anyone on ST who posts threats, or lots of foul-mouth spewing, or racist or sexist posts, or just pisses off management, may well find themselves banned.

My body of ST work may be a consideration, but I am not the kind of pundit who engages in the above behavior.

Then of course, my political credentials should, but somehow don't, give me an in with you right-wing folks.

EdwardT

Trad climber

Retired

Dec 11, 2018 - 08:17am PT

Fritz is a Russian troll?

capseeboy

Social climber

portland, oregon

Dec 11, 2018 - 08:56am PT

History doesn't repeat itself, it never changes. Poland by Michener.

News: north, east, west, south.

According to Sam Vankin, the more you have to say on social media the more you will be bashed, trolled, and hated. Less content = more likes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmXcjvL9VSc

Reeotch

climber

4 Corners Area

Dec 11, 2018 - 09:09am PT

Nope, nothing new at all, whatsoever, under the sun . . .

Fritz

Social climber

Choss Creek, ID

Dec 11, 2018 - 09:25am PT

Edward T! Per your question:

Fritz is a Russian troll?

Try to keep things straight lad. I'm the Idaho native patriot, you are the Russian troll.

Besides my above body of work, I also have the work of bodies, we Idaho folks have to maintain.

Marlow

Sport climber

OSLO

Dec 11, 2018 - 09:29am PT

Group led by Thomas Piketty presents plan for a fairer Europe: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/09/eu-brexit-piketty-tax-google-facebook-apple-manifesto

At the heart of the manifesto is a call for a European assembly that would have a budget of up to €800bn a year, financed by taxing corporate profits more effectively, as well as income and wealth.

The EU has been accused of failing to address the manifest unfairness of huge multinationals such as Apple, Google and Amazon channeling profits through member states where taxes are lowest.

The budget would be worth 4% of the EU’s GDP – four times the current budget. Funds would be raised from four sources: an extra 15% levy on corporate profits, tax increases on individuals earning more than €100,000, a wealth tax on personal fortunes above €1m, and a tax on carbon emissions.

Half of the proceeds would be returned to member state governments. A quarter would go to research, innovation and education. A fund to better manage migration and a fund to make agriculture and industry greener would also benefit.

perswig

climber

Dec 11, 2018 - 10:01am PT

Fishing with the AntiChrist.

Good route name, Mouse.
Dale

mouse from merced

Trad climber

The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.

Dec 11, 2018 - 10:02am PT

News about political news:

As usual, we stoopid 'mericans get our news from foreign sources.

Thank you, Marlow.

Myself, I much prefer political gossip and innuendo to "news," fake or real.

e.g.--Melania's coat, with its message ("I'm with stupid!") was pure gold.

Lituya

Mountain climber

Dec 11, 2018 - 10:39am PT

Fritz is a Russian troll?

I've come to believe Fritz lives in the border lands, soon to be lost to his alternative body of work.

dirtbag

climber

Dec 11, 2018 - 10:52am PT

News? How about the latest chapter of “My God, What a F*#king Idiot”?

The Trump Shutdown.

the Fet

climber

Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La

Dec 11, 2018 - 11:13am PT

the Fet

climber

Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La

Dec 11, 2018 - 11:17am PT

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Jon Beck

Trad climber

Oceanside

Dec 11, 2018 - 11:45am PT

I just watched that Oval office dumpster fire and I think that Trump makes a compelling case that if indicted he can not be tried as an adult.

couchmaster

climber

Dec 11, 2018 - 01:55pm PT

Where there's smkoe there's fire? Everyone who pitched into Stormy Daniels go-fund me now get to watch their funds scoot over to the Presidents side of the wall. Last May

"Stormy raises $250,000"

http://time.com/money/5205869/stormy-daniels-money-raised/

Todays news:

"Stephanie Clifford, the porn star better known as Stormy Daniels, was ordered to pay $293,000 in attorney fees and sanctions to Donald Trump..."

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/420865-judge-orders-stormy-daniels-to-pay-trump-293k-in-legal-fees

In other news: Winemakers Gofundme effort to convince Hillary has stalled at $100 due to being overreaching and wrongly trying to convince Vice President Biden into not running. https://www.gofundme.com/help-hillary-not-run-for-president

couchmaster

climber

Dec 11, 2018 - 02:00pm PT

Make your own Trump Tweet https://faketrumptweet.com/

Have fun!

Jon Beck

Trad climber

Oceanside

Dec 11, 2018 - 02:07pm PT

"Stephanie Clifford, the porn star better known as Stormy Daniels, was ordered to pay $293,000 in attorney fees and sanctions to Donald Trump..."

It was worth every penny of it. Of course Dumpster will be taking a victory lap on a complete and total win.

wilbeer

Mountain climber

Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,

Dec 11, 2018 - 03:18pm PT

Sketch,why aren’t you skiing?

mooch

Trad climber

Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)

Dec 11, 2018 - 03:21pm PT

After today's get together, it was funny to watch Pence spend the entire meeting looking like he was filming a Southwest Airlines’ “Wanna Get Away?” commercial.

Norton

climber

The Wastelands

Dec 11, 2018 - 03:30pm PT

That is not the point

The reality is that Donald Trump committed a felony by paying off a sex toy to shut up
at the same time that he was running for President.

That is a clear violation of campaign law, that is illegal, that is a felony.

Beyond doubt, this is different from Bill Clinton lying about a blow job from Monica during his presidency, and not as a candidate. His lying was perjury and his intent was not to influence an election as Donald's was, but to protect himself, his wife and daughter from the national embarrassment of having his sex affair brought out into the open.

Jon Beck

Trad climber

Oceanside

Dec 11, 2018 - 04:04pm PT

Anyone who believes otherwise is a moron.

classic Trumper, if you do not agree with me you are a moron. Very ironic after the paragraph above that statement

EdwardT

Trad climber

Retired

Dec 11, 2018 - 04:05pm PT

Norton

climber
The Wastelands

Dec 11, 2018 - 03:30pm PT
That is not the point

The reality is that Donald Trump committed a felony by paying off a sex toy to shut up
at the same time that he was running for President.

That is a clear violation of campaign law, that is illegal, that is a felony.

How so?

Trump paid Daniels out of his own pocket. Cohen paid Daniels. Trump paid Cohen. The funds weren't part of his campaign's finances.

John Edwards' campaign donors gave one million dollars to his mistress. He was tried and acquitted.

The US Congress regularly uses tax dollars to pay off sexual harassment victims.

Yet, Trump's actions are criminal?

The selective outrage over this is impressive.

Edit: Good one, Mooch.

mouse from merced

Trad climber

The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.

Dec 11, 2018 - 04:10pm PT

I heard it through the grapevine...

Harley is running next term!!!!

Ksolem

Trad climber

Monrovia, California

Dec 11, 2018 - 04:28pm PT

Good grief. An off topic thread without a topic. That's a level five troll for sure...

Kavanaugh disappointed the anti-abortion people.

Yes isn't that odd. He took the position he said he would during the hearings.

EdwardT

Trad climber

Retired

Dec 11, 2018 - 04:31pm PT

AntiChrist

Gym climber
Urth

Topic Author's Reply - Dec 11, 2018 - 04:26pm PT

Trump paid Daniels out of his own pocket.

Well then, he lied about it... repeatedly.

Cohen paid Daniels. Trump paid Cohen.

I thought you said Dump paid Daniels? Yall can't keep your lies straight!

Either way, it Cohen paid Daniels it was to benefit Dump's presidential campaign, which is a campaign contribution, which wasn't reported. If Dump paid Daniels he is a flat out chronic liar... which everyone already knows.

Either way the POS is losing... so much losing... no other prezident has ever been this good at losing... losing with all you losers.

Excellent display of Dunning-Kruger.

Keep 'em coming.

Too funny.

Lituya

Mountain climber

Dec 11, 2018 - 04:39pm PT

Yes isn't that odd. He took the position he said he would during the hearings.

Good observation, K.

john hansen

climber

Dec 11, 2018 - 05:43pm PT

Pelosi and Schumer should have called out Pence today. Just ask him straight up , in front of the President, if he believes the lies Trump has on his flashcards. Say something like " Mr vice president, how do you put up with and defend this mans constant , daily lying to the American people?
You know these facts are not true Mike..what do you say..where is the proof of these 'terrorist's that have been detained?"

If trump is going to make it into a for TV spectacle, turn it against him. It could be a "Have you no decency" moment.

Say flat out "The Emperor Has no Clothes"

Mike did not say a single thing during the whole meeting, just sat there looking embarrassed.

Also if trump shuts down the 30 percent of government that would be unfunded ,including the Justice Dept, does Mueller and his team qualify as essential personal and keep working during the shutdown ?

High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber

Dec 11, 2018 - 05:54pm PT

:)

#badass

Norton

climber

The Wastelands

Dec 11, 2018 - 06:00pm PT

Edward, as I have said many times, it is not my job to educate you.

You are an adult now, use the new thing called an internet search engine to verify for yourself what defines campaign illegalities,

Don't trust your "gut instincts" as Donald says he does, instead use and value self education

7SacredPools

Trad climber

Ontario, Canada

Dec 11, 2018 - 06:11pm PT

The far-right read that meeting as Trump taking charge the whole way through.

I follow that WWG1WGA group to try and understand the cult-like support for your president but holeee are they whack. We have similar groups in Canada. There's just no reasoning with people that truly believe Satan helps rich socialist/communist child molesters run the "Deep State."

7SacredPools

Trad climber

Ontario, Canada

Dec 11, 2018 - 06:26pm PT

Yes isn't that odd. He took the position he said he would during the hearings.

Not exactly a sure thing.

High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber

Dec 11, 2018 - 06:28pm PT

"It's like a manhood thing for him. As if manhood could ever be associated with him." -Pelosi today

"It goes to show you: You get into a tinkle contest with a skunk, you get tinkle all over you." -Pelosi today

It's hard to believe Nancy Pelosi is 78 years old.

#badass

rottingjohnny

Sport climber

Sands Motel , Las Vegas

Dec 11, 2018 - 06:46pm PT

Trump hasn't done anything to warrant impeachment which means he'll likely win the Nobel peace prize....

wilbeer

Mountain climber

Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,

Dec 11, 2018 - 07:46pm PT

Being a John is a crime,especially when you cover it up during an election to be POTUS.

What is the matter Sketch?Too cold?

7SacredPools

Trad climber

Ontario, Canada

Dec 11, 2018 - 08:01pm PT

Mary Elizabeth Williams' piece on Piers Morgan and his grovelling for the CoS position is hilarious.

"It takes a truly brave artist to allow himself to be regularly laughed at as a caricature of English pomposity and bombast; to play, for decades, the role of Basil Fawlty without the charm. Yet Morgan not only does it flawlessly, he evolves in it. In his current incarnation, he's the aging man on the melting iceberg of tabloid journalism, eternally thirsty, begging for validation while courting contempt. And while his latest stunt is unlikely to land him a post in the current administration, it should absolutely seal his qualifications for a retrospective at the Tate Modern."

https://www.salon.com/2018/12/11/piers-morgan-is-our-greatest-living-artist/?fbclid=IwAR0vNs8k7nMZ4TEQHUzjV8FzYLjl3VjwECQ5piCDKzb36JG_zvLVanwKuQg

couchmaster

climber

Dec 11, 2018 - 08:11pm PT

Moose said:

"Still no strong candidates to challenge him.

Moose"

Well, about every 15 min the political news changes. He's the last 15 min change: It's beto. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/beto-o-rourke-narrowly-tops-moveon-2020-presidential-straw-poll-n946501

Invariably these kinds of stories get started and run in the news by someone with an agenda, in this case, given Beto's drunk driving running from the cops thing (who of us have not done that?) it might even be Trump cause that F* the cops spew won't play well with anyone who doesn't live in California and believes that the law is whatever they think it might be at that very moment. Jus sayin' -midwest ain't playin'.

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Dec 11, 2018 - 08:22pm PT

"So far, all the disgusting doings by Trump don't qualify as the impeachment offenses."

I agree, Moose...though it's conceivable Mueller might bring something forward that qualifies, I'm not holding my breath. More likely, there will be more dirt that gets painfully close to Trump that will have some kind of impact on his re-electability.

Dirt speculated that Trump will bow out of his candidacy due to the lack of campaign funding that will come his way due to the vast accumulation of dirt on him during his 2016 campaign and ever since. I think this is a very plausible scenario...one that could become clearer as Mueller's final reports come forward. We'll see.

NutAgain!

Trad climber

South Pasadena, CA

Dec 11, 2018 - 09:23pm PT

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I didn't really know much about Nancy Pelosi before watching this, and I have more respect for her now:

In our society, we accept when men use irrational methods to seize power in a heated debate/argument, such as by increasing the volume of their voice, raising their pitch, and using body language to express anger/dominance/indignation/dismissiveness.

When women use these same tools, they are harshly judged as being over-wrought, emotional, irrational, harpy/screetchy biotches not worth listening to.

Nancy did an amazing job of regulating her behavior, tone, and word choice to not play Trump's game, where she would be certain to lose because of our societal prejudices for male and female behavior. It's like being in a boxing match with your hands tied behind your back.

Even with the unfair constraints working against her, she still came out of the discussion seeming more rational, reasonable, and claiming her power without relying on the caveman tools that Trump does. That earns my respect.

Unfortunately a large part of America probably thinks that Trump came out strong in that discussion. Our collective failure to teach effective communication and problem resolution strategies to the members of our society creates the space for people to vote for this type of governance. Generations raised to laugh at Jerry Springer and Ricki Lake shows and soak up gossip headlines about emotionally crippled and dysfunctional music/TV/movie stars has destroyed our boundaries for maintaining civil discourse to resolve serious problems.

I feel the urge to crack open the abscess and let out a full on wide-ranging rant, but I'll lock it down right about here.

10b4me

Social climber

Lida Junction

Dec 11, 2018 - 09:30pm PT

Unfortunately a large part of America probably thinks that Trump came out strong in that discussion.

I heard a conservative guy say just that. He said that dems can't go mano a mano with trump.
well, get someone who will.

Tom

Big Wall climber

San Luis Obispo CA

Dec 11, 2018 - 10:26pm PT

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Dec 11, 2018 - 11:16pm PT

Dear 'God'...

Please let that happen.

Ksolem

Trad climber

Monrovia, California

Dec 11, 2018 - 11:50pm PT

I'm not sure the dog-catcher would take that job at this point...

mouse from merced

Trad climber

The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.

Dec 12, 2018 - 01:50am PT

Dick Gregory might agree with your comment.
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EdwardT

Trad climber

Retired

Dec 12, 2018 - 03:36am PT

Norton

climber
The Wastelands

Dec 11, 2018 - 06:00pm PT
Edward, as I have said many times, it is not my job to educate you.

You are an adult now, use the new thing called an internet search engine to verify for yourself what defines campaign illegalities,

Don't trust your "gut instincts" as Donald says he does, instead use and value self education

No racist claims? You must be slipping.

It's not a matter of researching the topic. It's about you being full of sh#t. Your backpedal speaks for itself.

Have a nice day. ;-)

WBraun

climber

Dec 12, 2018 - 06:27am PT

Search for the idiot on Google and I found YOU

Rollover

climber

Gross Vegas

Dec 12, 2018 - 07:15am PT

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High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber

Dec 12, 2018 - 07:20am PT

I feel the urge to crack open the abscess and let out a full on wide-ranging rant, but I'll lock it down right about here.

NutAgain, if you'd like to deepen your angst and depression further, I would recommend the book, The Fifth Risk, by Michael Lewis.

I just finished it. While a part of me hopes not to, I am considering a re-reading again just to sink further in some of its stunning insights and details. Last Sunday Lewis and the book were profiled on Fareed Zakaria GPS; there he gives a good summary of what's going on and what he learned.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2018/12/10/exp-gps-1209-lewis-fifth-risk.cnn

God help us.

dirtbag

climber

Dec 12, 2018 - 07:21am PT

Regarding the chief of staff mess...While it’s amusing on one hand to watch the rats in the White House scramble, the reality is that increasingly, it is being staffed by kooks, crooks, and malcontents. We really do need the best people, and in a normal White House, attracting such people would be fairly easy.

But, this is not a normal White House. Let’s hope the sh#t doesn’t hit the fan the next two years.

dirtbag

climber

Dec 12, 2018 - 07:24am PT

I didn't really know much about Nancy Pelosi before watching this, and I have more respect for her now:

Just based on her huge but understated role in passage of the ACA, she will be ranked among the most effective speakers. “Obamacare” should be called “pelosicare.” I’m a huge fan.

rottingjohnny

Sport climber

Sands Motel , Las Vegas

Dec 12, 2018 - 07:45am PT

A very conservative friend , who worked in the Reagan thru the Obama administrations laughs when Trump is discussed...He says Trump can't hire anyone because he doesn't know anyone , the disadvantages of being a hotel magnate...Trump's claim that he's an outsider are true...My friend continues by describing Trump as a nutjob... Furthermore , he describes Mattis as woefully inadequate ....Don't throw the babies out with the swamp water...

Reilly

Mountain climber

The Other Monrovia- CA

Dec 12, 2018 - 08:28am PT

he describes Mattis as woefully inadequate

I would like to know why and how. Does he not offer the president his opinion?
Are his opinions inadequate? I’ve never known any Marine officers, and I guarantee I’ve
known more than most anybody in this august body, lacking in either opinions or the
willingness to express them. And IMHO Marine officers are often very well read which
is an attribute universally applied to Gen Mattis.

EdwardT

Trad climber

Retired

Dec 12, 2018 - 08:33am PT

I would recommend the book, The Fifth Risk, by Michael Lewis.

It's on my Christmas list.

I've read Liars Poker, The Big Short & Flash Boys. All, fun, informative reads.

Brandon-

climber

The Granite State.

Dec 12, 2018 - 08:42am PT

Watched the video above with Trump, Pence, Pelosi and Schumer. Why this discussion happened in public is beyond me. And, Trump speaking over other people constantly? One of my pet peeves. Let a person finish their sentence, for crying out loud.

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Dec 12, 2018 - 09:14am PT

"I didn't really know much about Nancy Pelosi before watching this, and I have more respect for her now:"

One can gauge the overall effectiveness of a Democrat by the degree of sustained dislike of them that comes from the GOP. Pelosi has been deeply hated by the Right for many years now- that's a clear indicator she's been effective in moving policies that have been in conflict with those on the Right.

10b4me

Social climber

Lida Junction

Dec 12, 2018 - 09:29am PT

speaking of Santorum.

A friend, Tyeary who post on here occasionally, told me of the time he gave a ride to Bridwell. Now Bridwell was a pretty conservative guy, and Tony is not. Anyway, they got to discussing politics. This was about the time that Santorum was running for president. Tony asked Bridwell his opinion of Santorum. Bridwell responded that he thought Santorum was too liberal.

what the country needs is someone to really up the reigns on trump. Kelly tried, and that didn't work. Maybe it's an impossible task.

Jon Beck

Trad climber

Oceanside

Dec 12, 2018 - 09:30am PT

getting the pardon started Mr. President?

That ship has already sailed. A pardon will not help much because if Cohen fails to testify against Trump the settlement can get torn up and he could get re-sentenced.

High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber

Dec 12, 2018 - 10:00am PT

"One can gauge the overall effectiveness of a Democrat by the degree of sustained dislike of them that comes from the GOP. Pelosi has been deeply hated by the Right for many years now- that's a clear indicator she's been effective in moving policies that have been in conflict with those on the Right." -apogee

This is exactly right.

It's shocking how we can be SUCH SUCKERS for the gop narrative, the anti-science narrative, the anti government narrative, the anti-dem narrative if we hear em enough.

...

What's an ex felon? (cf: ex-convict)

re: felon vs ex-felon

Once a person has been convicted of a felony, he or she can be considered a felon for life, according to the strict meaning of the word. ( The term ex-felon, for example, is rarely used.)

A person who has committed a felony is a felon. In addition, upon conviction of a felony in a court of law, a person is known as a convicted felon or a convict.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony

dirtbag

climber

Dec 12, 2018 - 10:03am PT

what the country needs is someone to really up the reigns on trump. Kelly tried, and that didn't work. Maybe it's an impossible task.

Yeah...a hopeless task.

Trump is too f*#ked in the head.

Tom

Big Wall climber

San Luis Obispo CA

Dec 12, 2018 - 11:26am PT

Why this discussion happened in public is beyond me.

Trump intentionally brought in the press cameras, and then put on a show for his fan base. Fox News and other right-wing news outlets declare the demented charade a tremendous victory for Trump (Trump used the word "tremendous" nine times during the 16-minute meeting; "great" five times; "incredible" four times; also, "fantastic" and "spectacular"). The fan base verdict will be that Trump stood tough when the Democrat bullies called him a liar for presenting fictitious statistics about the imaginary effectiveness of a non-existent border wall.

Trump's claims that "tremendous amounts" of the wall have been built are complete lies. NONE of the wall has been built, at all. Some additional fencing has been built, as near El Paso. But, Trump's statements about existing walls, and walls currently being built, are outright lies.

Trump is fixated on perception and appearance, and is oblivious to substance and reality. His self-image is that of a magical, or God-like, entity that can conjure an alternative reality and force it into existence with his deranged lies and absurd delusions. It is entirely possible that Trump is truly insane, and that he believes that his performance in the Oval Office that day was a historic act of exemplary statesmanship. Trump may also believe that his wall is being built - Jared Kushner, Stephen Miller and other aides have their own private agendas, and they may be assuring Trump that his kingdom has come, and that his will is being done, on earth, if not in heaven.

One of Trump's con-man schticks is to play the role of "Champion Combatant For The Little Guy". He repeatedly used this fraudulent persona during the campaign and into his presidency. Despite repeatedly hurting the little guy with his pro-oligarch agenda, his fans continue to lap up the bellicose rhetoric of Donald "Too Tough" Trump. Trump needs to engage others in public combat as part of his tough-guy schtick. Otherwise, he's just a foolish old man making ludicrous and absurd statements that have no basis in reality.

One way he claims to be fighting for the little guy is scapegoating, demonizing and terrorizing illegal immigrants, whom he refers to as "enemies" and "invaders". Instead of addressing actual, reality-based causes for the shifting economy, he claims that "Mexican rapists" are stealing jobs that should go to citizens. Trump needs to have an enemy that he can blame for the ills of his fan base, which is a group that comprises self-styled victims who are anxious to be rescued by a racist totalitarian demagogue.

Trump fights for the border wall as part of this tough-guy act. He has little to no interest in building the wall itself. He has hardly spent any of the money already allocated by Congress for border barriers. He is only interested in perpetuating a condition of conflict and crisis so that he can puff himself up on Twitter as a heroic warrior for the people who are mesmerized by his 130,000 p.s.i. ego.

EdwardT

Trad climber

Retired

Dec 12, 2018 - 12:07pm PT

One can gauge the overall effectiveness of a Republican by the degree of sustained dislike of them that comes from the Dems. McConnell has been deeply hated by the Left for many years now- that's a clear indicator he's been effective in moving policies that have been in conflict with those on the Left.

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Dec 12, 2018 - 12:31pm PT

That's entirely true, Edward.

Klimmer2.0

Mountain climber

San Diego, CA

Dec 12, 2018 - 01:05pm PT

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What and who is Q?
Who is within Q?:

A:
Military Intelligence
POTUS
JFK Jr. (He truly lives believe it or not)
All of us
We are Q.

Learn more:
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https://qmap.pub/

If you don't honestly look into it you will never know.

I'm looking forward to John-John's and his family's return to the public after decades of being safeguarded by the military witness protection program. It will be a very happy and a very wonderful good day ...

10b4me

Social climber

Lida Junction

Dec 12, 2018 - 01:25pm PT

McConnell has been deeply hated by the Left for many years

It's because of his mail order bride.

dirtbag

climber

Dec 12, 2018 - 02:26pm PT

Klimmer, get help.

Lorenzo

Trad climber

Portland Oregon

Dec 12, 2018 - 02:56pm PT

A person who has committed a felony is a felon. In addition, upon conviction of a felony in a court of law, a person is known as a convicted felon or a convict.

Also, accepting a pardon doesn’t change that. The Supreme Court ruled in 1915 that accepting a pardon carries with it an admission of guilt.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3928528117882105076

As such, you no longer have 5th amendment protection for that crime.

WBraun

climber

Dec 12, 2018 - 02:59pm PT

Yer all guilty and more guilty than Trump!!!

Because yer all st00pid politards........

Lorenzo

Trad climber

Portland Oregon

Dec 12, 2018 - 03:28pm PT

I beg your pardon?

Fritz

Social climber

Choss Creek, ID

Dec 12, 2018 - 03:43pm PT

Speaking of felons. It appears the Republican Presidents have had a rough stretch for the last 48 years. I never dreamed the Dept. of Justice had hated Republican Presidents that long & that much.

And as the right-wing knows, if one political cartoon is good, two are better.

Tom

Big Wall climber

San Luis Obispo CA

Dec 12, 2018 - 05:33pm PT

Felons in California can petition a court for a certificate of rehabilitation, which is then forwarded to the governor as a plea for a pardon.

https://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/criminal-law/arrests_and_searches/california-certificate-of-rehabilitation.htm

A Certificate of Rehabilitation (“COR”) is a California court-order declaring that a person previously convicted of a felony (or misdemeanor sex offense) is now rehabilitated. The purpose of the COR is to restore civil and political rights of citizenship to ex-felons who have proved their rehabilitation. The standards for determining whether a convicted felon is entitled to a COR are high. The COR is effective for convictions that resulted in state prison time and is a crucial first step for obtaining a pardon by the California Governor.

Before anyone erroneously conjectures that I know this because I am the same person as Thomas Carope Kasper (which I am not), a simple Google search of FBOP records will show that T.C. Kasper was in a Federal prison at the same time that I was doing hard time on El Capitan, with online photos and trip reports to prove it.

(I am still asked, occasionally, if I was "The Guy On The Airliner". One time, I told classmates that I was, indeed, currently serving 20 years on Terminal Island, but the warden had let me out for the weekend so that I could attend my class reunion.)

madbolter1

Big Wall climber

Denver, CO

Dec 12, 2018 - 05:45pm PT

If, as HFCS says, "A person who has committed a felony is a felon," then God is an iron.

(Spider Robinson)

Tom

Big Wall climber

San Luis Obispo CA

Dec 12, 2018 - 06:38pm PT

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What does that mean, "God is an iron"?

When I take my clothes out of the dryer, their natural tendency is to become wrinkled. If "God is an iron", shouldn't I naturally look better when going out in public?

Q: Why don't Trump supporters breed elephants?

A: Because after 18 months they all say, "NO CONCEPTION! WITCH HUNT!"

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When I send my dirty Patagonia clothes in for free repair, they always come back fresh-as-a-daisy and crisply ironed. It's cheaper than dry cleaning, but it takes about three weeks.

madbolter1

Big Wall climber

Denver, CO

Dec 12, 2018 - 07:06pm PT

Spider Robinson's point is that God commits ironies.

A person commits felonies and is thus a felon.

God commits ironies and is thus an iron.

Get it? (snare drum sound)

Actually, I thought it was pretty dang clever when I read Mindkiller.

Tom

Big Wall climber

San Luis Obispo CA

Dec 12, 2018 - 07:07pm PT

^^^^^^^^^^^^

In the music industry, that is called a "Rim Shot".

The steel rim of the snare drum is struck once, and then, in rapid succession, the pigskin snare drum head struck once. That is how the iconic "Ta-Tche" sound is produced.

Many times, it is possible to see that players of drums have mechanical distress on their drumsticks, far away from the tips (as if rodents were involved). This is due to shaft-striking the steel rims of drums as a simple and effective technique of obtaining alternative sounds.

I know this because I am a failure as a musician (my amplifier doesn't go to 11).

It is much easier to produce the Rim Shot sound by only using one's mouth, as while Beat Boxing. More physical coordination is necessary if using actual sticks and pigskin.

And, it is not necessary to purchase equipment of any kind, if you are skillful enough to master the arcane auditory art of Beat Boxing.

Trump

climber

Dec 12, 2018 - 07:39pm PT

The more schist-talk, the quicker they get locked, as gifted amateur-haters like some here, have somehow figured out.

Looking at the last couple of pages of that locked thread (still with 900 posts, so I guess no posts have been deleted), I see:

Speculation that EdwardT is stupid (he’s not a liberal, is he?)
Trump has been confirmed lying about every accusation (every one? really?)
The ship is sinking, the rats are always the first to realize, except maybe Biggie Rat (just to be clear, the Trump admin are rats, and trump is a big rat),
The pee tapes! (is their existence a fact of reality? and why so must interest in them on your part?)
Time for Trumps nap or meds
Bone spur draft dodger has lost it - insanity
The damned white nationalist party (repubs, I think)
The con job of the century

So, why was that thread locked? Who are the amateur-haters spewing their schist talk?

madbolter1

Big Wall climber

Denver, CO

Dec 12, 2018 - 07:50pm PT

Thanks, Tom. As soon as you said it, I remembered it. But I can drag less and less up from the murky depths of my memory anymore. Sigh

BTW, Mindkiller is an awesome read. Highly recommended.

Tom

Big Wall climber

San Luis Obispo CA

Dec 12, 2018 - 07:51pm PT

Measuring a person's effectiveness by measuring the animosity of an opposing group's response is inherently inaccurate.

There is some truth to that correlation, but to primarily rely on an animosity correlation, instead of more direct evidence, is, well,

TRUMPIAN

TRUTH IS NOT TRUTH - Rudy "Fooli" Giuliani

Yale Law School has conferred Fooli Giuliani's Orwellian denial of reality as the "2018 Quote Of The Year".

https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-fg-quotes-of-the-year-20181212-story.html

Last year, that award went to White House Senior Advisor Kellyanne Conway's Orwellian statement, "He was relying on ALTERNATIVE FACTS" when White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer blatantly lied that Trump's inauguration ceremony attendance was the biggest in history (period).

NOW, THIS IS A GOOD ONE:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/11/29/how-donald-trump-appeals-to-men-secretly-insecure-about-their-manhood/

TRUMP'S TOUGH-GUY ACT APPEALS TO WIMPS WHO WISH THEY COULD BE TOUGH
NYU PSYCHOLOGIST LINKS "FRAGILE MASCULINITY" TO SUPPORT OF TRUMP
GOOGLE SEARCH TERMS FOR PENIS INSUFFICIENCY CORRELATE HIGHLY WITH TRUMP VOTERS

Trump appeals to men who suffer from ‘fragile masculinity’
Brad Reed
29 NOV 2018 AT 06:46 ET

Two psychologists at New York University have conducted a study showing how President Donald Trump appeals directly to men who suffer from what they call “http://www.supertopo.com/inc/editforum.php?did=PTw2PCUjKyAgLSA,&dtid=PTw2PCEmJiYkISY,fragile masculinity.”

Writing in the Washington Post, New York University psychology professor Eric Knowles and NYU psychology doctoral student Sarah DiMuccio claim that many male Trump supporters feel far more insecure in their own masculinity than they’d have you believe — and they are drawn to Trump’s authoritarian rhetoric because it makes them feel more powerful.

“The political process provides a way that fragile men can reaffirm their masculinity,” they write. “By supporting tough politicians and policies, men can reassure others (and themselves) of their own manliness.”

In particular, the researchers found that there was a strong correlation between counties that voted overwhelmingly for Trump and internet searches for topics related to masculine insecurity, including “erectile dysfunction,” “hair loss,” “how to get girls,” “penis enlargement,” “penis size,” “steroids,” “testosterone” and “Viagra.”//

Most interestingly, the researchers found there was not a strong correlation between these search items and votes for Mitt Romney in 2012 and John McCain in 2008, which seems to indicate that Trump was uniquely adept at awakening “fragile male” voters.

Tom

Big Wall climber

San Luis Obispo CA

Dec 12, 2018 - 11:56pm PT

Anthony Scaramucci, a Trump supporter, is lucid in his explanation that Trump's core of supporters don't care that he lies.

Scaramucci explains that they LIKE a disruptive hellion in the system. They cheer Trump as he disrupts The System, and entertains them as he pours sand into the machine.

Facts and reality are irrelevant, as in a math class disrupted by an obnoxious and doofus star athlete who can't keep up.

Not knowing why, they charge.

"A Climber's Guide To Yosemite Valley" - Steve Roper - the Green Book

EDIT: If anybody has a more accurate version of the quote from Roper's guidebook, post it. I am, as always, much too lazy to find my book.

VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

Experiencing a wild experience, after Googling Plastic Surgery Disaster, is rarely a tick-list goal for any El Capitan climber.

ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber

ne'er–do–well

Dec 13, 2018 - 12:10am PT

https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/ivana-trump-1-2000.jpg

mouse from merced

Trad climber

The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.

Dec 13, 2018 - 05:24am PT

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-confides-friends-he-s-concerned-about-impeachment-n947296

"It's hard to impeach somebody who hasn't done anything wrong and who's created the greatest economy in the history of our country.
I'm not concerned, no. I think that the people would revolt if that happened."

EdwardT

Trad climber

Retired

Dec 13, 2018 - 06:17am PT

zBrown

Ice climber

Dec 12, 2018 - 07:15pm PT

Utter nonsense

Gimme some milk or else go home, fool

Another pathetic attempt by zbrown.

Tsk, tsk.

Oh yeah - learn how to post images, ya moran!

It's not complicated.

Bracket your image link between [img]
and [/img].

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Dec 13, 2018 - 09:40am PT

Trump ducks for legal cover after Cohen sentencing
The president claims he never directed his ex-lawyer to break the law and questions whether any campaign finance violations even occurred.

By CAITLIN OPRYSKO, JOSH GERSTEIN and DARREN SAMUELSOHN 12/13/2018 09:03 AM EST Updated 12/13/2018 11:33 AM EST

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/13/trump-breaks-silence-michael-cohen-sentencing-1061817

(Excerpts)

President Donald Trump on Thursday ended his silence on Michael Cohen's prison sentencing, claiming he never directed his longtime attorney to break the law and that he bears no responsibility for Cohen's campaign finance violations.

President Donald Trump first denied advance knowledge of the payments but has since shifted his position to state that even if he was aware of the payments, they had nothing to do with the election.

Man, that kind of repositioning sounds eerily familiar, doesn't it? Like 'I never had sex with that woman'...'that depends on what the definition of is, is'....

Yet his base will accept this bullshit just like they have the millions of gallons of yellow custard this guy has spewed from his arse.

EdwardT

Trad climber

Retired

Dec 13, 2018 - 09:48am PT

zBrown

Ice climber

Dec 13, 2018 - 09:27am PT
^more pitiable babble from the ST dunce

try putting the brackets on your hands, so that you don't continue to clutter up the neighborhood with trash

this was a test to see if you were coordinated enough to get your feeble brain and deformed hand to work together to click

if you can't, then get your momma to help you again, fool

And just like that, we're back in junior high.

zBrown

Ice climber

Dec 13, 2018 - 11:56am PT

I am overwhelmed, as I am totally sure everybody on the ST is, by your insight and intellect so I am going to withdraw from your little games.