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Skostyleva
Sport climber
Aliso viejo
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 8, 2018 - 07:05pm PT
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Whoever climbed at the west face of Trashcan around 4 pm and took my mini rack on a yellow sling ( BD And Metolius cams) from a picnic table across Profundity route while Me and my group we climbing Profundity, please give it back..
It’s my bday present and used just ones...
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Rudder
Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
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Dec 11, 2018 - 01:57pm PT
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How many cams was it, Svetlana?
Most times it's an accident, maybe when they sort gear they'll notice. Hopefully they'll try to get them back to you at that point.
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Roots
Mountain climber
Redmond, Oregon
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Dec 11, 2018 - 04:17pm PT
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Doubt it was an accident.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 11, 2018 - 04:48pm PT
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Doubt it was an accident.
Yup.
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Skostyleva
Sport climber
Aliso viejo
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 11, 2018 - 05:16pm PT
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So how often does gear get stolen? What do they do with it after ? Sell?
I’m pretty desperate at this point and what hurts the most is that I will not be able to effort another set for a long time ..
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Dec 11, 2018 - 07:35pm PT
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Probably stolen by a climber, but you can check Craigslist.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 11, 2018 - 07:51pm PT
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So how often does gear get stolen? What do they do with it after ? Sell?
I’m pretty desperate at this point and what hurts the most is that I will not be able to effort another set for a long time ..
My guess is another new climber with low morals now has it on their rack. Lesson learned. Were the cams marked?
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7SacredPools
Trad climber
Ontario, Canada
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Dec 11, 2018 - 08:03pm PT
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What a shitty thing to have happen.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Dec 11, 2018 - 08:16pm PT
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Lots of non-climbers going through that lot. There are some serious kleptos out there that feel a compulsion to steal stuff they have no use for. A stash of exotic gear would have been a cool souvenir. I like to think it was not a climber but it very well could have been. The handful of times I climbed there I never used the picnic tables for that reason, keep gear in my car or in a pack at the base.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 11, 2018 - 08:31pm PT
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he handful of times I climbed there I never used the picnic tables for that reason, keep gear in my car or in a pack at the base.
Leaving gear anywhere at trashcan rock is a simple grab. Would you leave your wallet at the bar while you went to pee?
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Dec 11, 2018 - 08:46pm PT
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Did you try the local gear shop Nomad Ventures? Maybe turned in etc after discovery
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Rudder
Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
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Dec 12, 2018 - 10:27am PT
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Russ thinks like me, every time I think someone stole something of mine, I find it where I forgot I put it. hehe I've had a couple of things stolen in my life, but mostly my stuff has turned up.
Anyway, Russ, yes, I went by Nomads that night. I also had Svet call the ranger station and post here and on Mountain Project. In hopes whoever took it does their next gear sort and realizes it's not theirs and looks to find the owner.
It's Svetlana's first trad rack. Kinda of sad. Svet is very sweet and I hope she gets her gear back.
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Dec 12, 2018 - 10:48am PT
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Svetlana,
If you like, I can give you some of my old gear.
Rigid stem friends, metolius cams.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 12, 2018 - 10:56am PT
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Svet - I also have some stuff I could send if you don't get your rack back. Not the same as you lost, but good gear.
Nice lead zip
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Rudder
Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
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Dec 12, 2018 - 11:15am PT
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You guys are awesome!
I was thinking I could give her a cam too.
Man, if she had a rigid friend she'd be the coolest. :)
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the museum
Trad climber
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Dec 12, 2018 - 11:21am PT
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Svetlana, I would help you, too.
Post up a reply if you need anything.
the museum
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Skostyleva
Sport climber
Aliso viejo
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2018 - 05:47pm PT
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Wow,just wow... from all my hear thank you guys for your replies... reading them makes me want to believe in good people again..
I moved to OC not long time ago, still exploring JT climbing and don't know much about it. To be honest, I was not aware that Trashcan is the "spot", plus all the time we were less than 5 meters away from the picnic table. Lesson learned.
I'll be truly grateful for any donation, and if I can do anything in return do let me know..
One more time thank you all!
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Dec 12, 2018 - 05:59pm PT
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Was yours the only gear on the table?
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Dec 12, 2018 - 06:06pm PT
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Please post an e mail address that I can reach you at.
The only thing I would like in return is a trip report with all your new used gear,
and if you have it, that picture of Russ soloing left ski track in a Speedo.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 12, 2018 - 08:46pm PT
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Please post an e mail address that I can reach you at.
The only thing I would like in return is a trip report with all your new used gear, and if you have it, that picture of Russ soloing left ski track in a Speedo.
Yeah. But I'll pass on the pic of the Fish.
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the museum
Trad climber
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Dec 13, 2018 - 08:41am PT
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Svetlana, I saw your post on Mountain Project - contact me there. the email in Mtn Proj works fine, as opposed to here on this site.
I'll reply to your post there.
the museum
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 13, 2018 - 01:38pm PT
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I don't get it. We offer some gear to replace what was taken but no way is given to correspond?
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Dec 13, 2018 - 01:50pm PT
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^^^^^
Maybe she doesn’t sit on the keyboard 24/7 looking at the ST site. :0
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 13, 2018 - 01:57pm PT
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^^ Oy! That hurts zip. Maybe museum can give us the beta.
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Dec 13, 2018 - 02:35pm PT
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Maybe she didn’t wanna see Russ in the Speedo?
I’m sure she has a real life, and will get back to us.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 13, 2018 - 03:24pm PT
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Maybe she didn’t wanna see Russ in the Speedo?
I’m sure she has a real life,
The Fish in a speedo? No thanks.
Are you saying I don't have a life? Being a 13 year old in his mother's basement is a life. I've got the Loni Anderson posters to prove it.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Dec 13, 2018 - 04:32pm PT
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Maybe she didn’t wanna see Russ in the Speedo?
oh no...... she does.....
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Skostyleva
Sport climber
Aliso viejo
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2018 - 04:49pm PT
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Please post an e mail address that I can reach you at.
The only thing I would like in return is a trip report with all your new used gear,
and if you have it, that picture of Russ soloing left ski track in a Speedo.
Now I'm curious about that picture with Russ :)
Sent you a message with my email address.
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Skostyleva
Sport climber
Aliso viejo
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2018 - 05:01pm PT
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I don't get it. We offer some gear to replace what was taken but no way is given to correspond?
I sent my email in messages but somehow no one received them.
skos.oc@gmail.com
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Skostyleva
Sport climber
Aliso viejo
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2018 - 05:03pm PT
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oh no...... she does..... getting more and more intrigued
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Dec 13, 2018 - 05:20pm PT
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Svetlana, you can have my old rigid stem cams if you want them. I had them reslung a couple of years ago so they are good to go.
If you can get to Sender One Santa Ana, maybe we can meet there for the hand off.
Let me know here, or send me a message thru Mtn Project. Same user name.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 13, 2018 - 06:26pm PT
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I tried the email addy twice and gmail could not find it.
edit: has anyone reached this person?
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Skostyleva
Sport climber
Aliso viejo
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2018 - 07:01pm PT
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I tried the email addy twice and gmail could not find it.
edit: has anyone reached this person?
My bad, fixed the address skos.oc@gmail.com
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Dec 13, 2018 - 07:03pm PT
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Witness Relocation Program?
I just sent a test e mail, and it didn’t bounce.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 14, 2018 - 12:17am PT
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I sent an email to her revised address and it did not bounce.
My question now is this legit? I don't mind sending gear to someone who needs a lift.
But don't want to be scammed. Anyone here know this person to vouch for them?
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Rudder
Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
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Dec 14, 2018 - 02:43am PT
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I see Svetlana at Sender One in Santa Ana most Tuesday and Thursday nights, but I think she goes even more week nights. We've been out to Josh twice now in the last month. Here's a pic of Svetlana:
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Dec 14, 2018 - 04:21am PT
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Really John?
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Dec 14, 2018 - 06:11am PT
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Here is what I can contribute to your old school ghetto rack.
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Aeriq
Sport climber
100-year Visitor
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Dec 14, 2018 - 07:01am PT
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Very cool, Phyl and Zip.
That "friend of a Friend" is classic!
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Dec 14, 2018 - 07:54am PT
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That’s an excellent pile of gear Zip!
Svetlana, I sent you an email reply from the note You sent thru Mtn Project.
those cams I’m giving you Protected me on a lot of the classic cracks in Joshua Tree in the 80s and they will still be useful as a backup set once you can get a new set of flexible stem cams.
Safe climbing, Phyl
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Dec 14, 2018 - 08:24am PT
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Friend of a Friend saved many small cams that walked on me.
Never lost a cam, and I recovered quite a few too.
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the museum
Trad climber
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Dec 14, 2018 - 11:26am PT
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Wow zip and Phylp really came through here! Awesome!
the museum
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 14, 2018 - 12:18pm PT
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I thought everyone in the OC was rich?
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Rudder
Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
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Dec 14, 2018 - 01:13pm PT
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That's some awesome gear, guys! Svetlana will be stoked! :)
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 14, 2018 - 03:27pm PT
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Really John?
zip, I've been burned by sob stories before. I'm a pretty giving person but have sent gear to people that never even took the time to say thank you. So yeah, I'm a bit jaded.
That said, I've traded a few emails with Svet and will be sending her some cams and a couple collectors items.
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Dec 14, 2018 - 06:22pm PT
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John,
I can relate.
All good.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Dec 14, 2018 - 06:25pm PT
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Great to see the offers to help get an impromptu rack together.
Sounds like there are enough offers to send gear that I don't need to add on, but if the OP has any gaps in cam sizes (or needs nuts), post up and I may be able to contribute-- typical guy who's been climbing a few decades and has more stuff than I'll ever use and have replaced some older stuff that is still functional with modern stuff (but the older stuff still works).
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 14, 2018 - 07:14pm PT
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John,
I can relate.
All good.
zip, I took no offense; just wanted to explain the reason for my statement.
The magic here is that Svet will receive old gear that has seen a lot of routes. It isn't new pretty gear, but gear that has some mileage and memories. She won't have the prettiest rack at the crag, but that rack has experience.
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Skostyleva
Sport climber
Aliso viejo
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2018 - 11:35pm PT
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Here is what I can contribute to your old school ghetto rack.
Zip, that's generous! Now Rudder will have to spend more time with me and teach how to use nuts and hexes!
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Dec 15, 2018 - 12:01am PT
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I am amazed at how many new climbers think nuts are obsolete. It is just about the most efficient pro you can carry. I would recommend buying a set of nuts before even getting any cams. Hexes though, not so sure I would ever use mine again. Smaller ones on an alpine route would be useful for bail anchors I guess. The bigger ones are just cowbells and nobody needs more cowbell except Bruce Dickinson.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 15, 2018 - 04:29am PT
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I am amazed at how many new climbers think nuts are obsolete. It is just about the most efficient pro you can carry.
Agreed. Although there are times on thin cracks that plugging in a tiny cam can be reassuring rather than fiddling with a nut while pumped.
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Dec 15, 2018 - 05:46am PT
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I read Skostyleva's post right after she initialized the thread. I thought it might be possible that her "mini rack on a yellow sling" might be returned to her somehow, anything is possible (Mastadon finding the wedding ring years ago comes to mind).
I just tuned in again to see the outcome. The generosity of several people offering replacement cams, nuts, etc. is someways better to read than her own gear being discovered.
Threads like this make up for all the venom laced threads that have driven so many people away along with all their contributions. Too bad some of them can't
see it ain't all bad here and undelete their posts that were rich in humor (Tami) and others who posted so much climbing history, photography and common sense.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 15, 2018 - 07:56pm PT
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Threads like this make up for all the venom laced threads that have driven so many people away
Well written Tobia. There is a lot of good here, and good people. Without the taco there are so many people I would have never met or corresponded with. Many good times at Todd's in JT and the facelift. Too many people to mention.
When good people leave a forum for whatever reason, the forum suffers.
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Dec 16, 2018 - 06:04am PT
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From MP:
Just got an information that someone who was camping that weekend in Hidden valley, campsite 10, took my rack by mistake and were trying to find the owner later that night.
If someone by any chance knows people that camped in Hidden valley campsite number 10 on September 8th please let me know as soon as possible..
Thank you in advance
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Skostyleva
Sport climber
Aliso viejo
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2018 - 09:13am PT
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Update: some lady messaged me last night on Mtn project “ I just saw your post but we were climbing there that day late in the day. Someone came by and said they'd taken them by mistake. I think they said they were in Hidden Valley Campground site 10 but can't remember”
I tried calling JT visitor center To get any possible contacts of people camping at hidden valley but no luck so far, first come first serve campgrounds do not require any infor from people that stay overnight. I’m planning to call ranger today and ask to check if someone has left any message on the board at Quails spring or hidden valley.
Dear collective mind, any other ideas how can I pursue this lead ?
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Dec 16, 2018 - 09:46am PT
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Check Nomad's.
You can also submit a request to NPS at the lost and found section of their website.
I would imagine you can probably call them too.
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Skostyleva
Sport climber
Aliso viejo
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2018 - 10:09am PT
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Submitted The lost request last Sunday at JT visitor center and Nomads , called them again today and no luck, nobody turned the rack in ...
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 16, 2018 - 12:02pm PT
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Update: some lady messaged me last night on Mtn project “ I just saw your post but we were climbing there that day late in the day. Someone came by and said they'd taken them by mistake.
I guess it could happen. Seems strange to me though that someone would pick up gear by mistake unless the table was being shared by several parties. Even then, most people know their rack on sight. Hope it works out.
At any rate, unless something turns up in the meantime a package will go out to Svet tomorrow.
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Skostyleva
Sport climber
Aliso viejo
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 18, 2018 - 01:10pm PT
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I guess it could happen. Seems strange to me though that someone would pick up gear by mistake unless the table was being shared by several parties. Even then, most people know their rack on sight. Hope it works out.
I find it weird as well, but also weird that they didn't leave any message or their contacts at official JT lost and found.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 18, 2018 - 02:57pm PT
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Maybe ask a local to go check out the message boards in the park?
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Dec 18, 2018 - 03:49pm PT
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I have taken gear from my friends that I was climbing with by mistake, never from strangers.
Hope you get it back.
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Skostyleva
Sport climber
Aliso viejo
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 18, 2018 - 04:27pm PT
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Maybe ask a local to go check out the message boards in the park? Someone from mountain project messaged that there is a note on the board but it doesn't have any contacts only number of the campsite. I don't have an opportunity to check it by myself so asked if someone local to Jtree can stop by the campsite and ask around ..
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Dec 18, 2018 - 04:46pm PT
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 18, 2018 - 05:37pm PT
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I don't have an opportunity to check it by myself so asked if someone local to Jtree can stop by the campsite and ask around ..
Hope it pans out. Who did you ask to look?
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Skostyleva
Sport climber
Aliso viejo
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 19, 2018 - 04:39pm PT
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I asked Park rangers and climbers from SoCal facebook group. Just got a reply from rangers that there is no note at Hidden Valley campground and no people camping at the campsite 40 at this moment.
Sad story...
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 19, 2018 - 04:49pm PT
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I asked Park rangers and climbers from SoCal facebook group. Just got a reply from rangers that there is no note at Hidden Valley campground and no people camping at the campsite 40 at this moment.
Sad story...
Yes. I posted on MP that maybe you could have someone put a note on the message boards in JT that your gear is missing and someone said they mistakenly took it. Ask them to post up here and/or on MP with contact info.
Can't hurt.
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labrat
Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
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Dec 27, 2018 - 02:42pm PT
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Maybe she is just away and unplugged for the holidays? I think you are jumping to ugly conclusions...
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Dec 27, 2018 - 02:50pm PT
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The most sincere generosity is done quietly without acknowledgment. Your intent seemed good but it seems like you are in it for some payback. Flinging those accusations are premature. And seriously they were ancient rigid stammers. Sure a polite thank you is in order but maybe she is still LOLing uncontrollably
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 27, 2018 - 02:52pm PT
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I still think she is real. That smile tells a lot. Just bums me that she doesn't say thank you.
And no Jon Beck, I am not it it for payback
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Skostyleva
Sport climber
Aliso viejo
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 27, 2018 - 02:55pm PT
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Hi guys , sorry for not replying here, I’m preparing for the inteviews and got a lot on my plate right now.. I’ll post and update soon.. there is a lot of weird communication happening around the missing rack..it’s a hell of a story ..
John, I’m sorry for not replying I received your cams and I’m working on something that I would like to send to you together with a thank you note.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 27, 2018 - 02:57pm PT
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The most sincere generosity is done quietly without acknowledgment.
True
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Roots
Mountain climber
Redmond, Oregon
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Dec 27, 2018 - 03:08pm PT
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Thought they banned drones at JT?
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 27, 2018 - 03:10pm PT
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Are you happy now John? Jeez louise.
Yeah. I sent her some cams. You?
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Dec 27, 2018 - 03:29pm PT
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Roots
Mountain climber
Redmond, Oregon
Dec 27, 2018 - 03:08pm PT
Thought they banned drones at JT?
Chaz uses a kite, it is legal. Maybe he will post a link to his cool shots.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 27, 2018 - 03:31pm PT
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Hi guys , sorry for not replying here, I’m preparing for the inteviews and got a lot on my plate right now.. I’ll post and update soon.. there is a lot of weird communication happening around the missing rack..it’s a hell of a story ..
John, I’m sorry for not replying I received your cams and I’m working on something that I would like to send to you together with a thank you note.
Cheers Lana
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Rudder
Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
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Dec 27, 2018 - 03:36pm PT
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I think two different guys sent Svet gear. She sent me text pics of the gear right when she got it (which is awesome gear) and she was stoked. :) I knew she'd thank everyone soon enough. :) I thank you, too! And, I think a lot of us imputed no bad motives to the gear being picked up and are grateful for a pretty great climbing community. :)
I was out at Josh yesterday and to see all the work being done by the climbing community to pickup after the tourists (and ourselves) with all the bathroom cleanup was/is really cool! Thanks to all involved on that, as well! I'm nice, but not that nice! haha I picked up a little trash here and there and called it good. lol
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Roots
Mountain climber
Redmond, Oregon
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Dec 27, 2018 - 03:49pm PT
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Thanks Jon! Never heard of flying a camera on a kite!
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Dec 27, 2018 - 06:40pm PT
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She sent me a very nice note immediately after receivng my old cams. I’m looking forward to meeting her to climb in the near future.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 28, 2018 - 10:36am PT
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I’m looking forward to meeting her to climb in the near future.
Good on ya! I love her smile! More cams being sent to AV.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 28, 2018 - 10:48am PT
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You got super butthurt when your thank you note didn't arrive promptly. Remember?
Ahh. You don't know me and never will.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 28, 2018 - 11:38am PT
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the gear appears to be home.
Svet is real. A most wonderful person. I'm happy to have met her on this forum.
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johntp
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Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 28, 2018 - 04:13pm PT
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zardoz??
Oh yeah, ghost busters. Aren't you the creative one.
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