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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Nov 13, 2018 - 03:19pm PT
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That seems like a perfect fit for TPR to own it. They have all the personnel up there already, could be run very efficiently.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 13, 2018 - 04:06pm PT
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That seems like a perfect fit for TPR to own it. They have all the personnel up there already, could be run very efficiently.
That's what I was thinking; if TPR has a few investors it makes sense.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Nov 13, 2018 - 06:09pm PT
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TPR has a group of investors from Mammoth Mtn. They bought Tioga Pass Resort some 12 (?) years ago and now Saddlebag which right now does not consist of much. It will be fun to see how this plays out. The area is an awesome place and great because it is not in the Federal Parks.
Hugs to TPR and their vision!!!
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Nov 13, 2018 - 06:22pm PT
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Mammoth Mt....? What's the punch line...?
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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Nov 13, 2018 - 06:42pm PT
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I thought that the Tioga Pass Resort was ruined by heavy snowfall and that the owner is struggling to rebuild and get it open again. It is owned by an investment group?
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Nov 13, 2018 - 06:44pm PT
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The main building at TPR was well underway to being restored when I saw it in late August.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Nov 13, 2018 - 09:37pm PT
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aspendougy,
Yes, owned by a group and if you go on Face Book they give updates on the restoration once in a while. Went by in September and one of two major bridges was not only restored but enlarged. It's a process and it's happening. Cheers to Tioga Pass Resort! So many miss you!
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John M
climber
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Nov 13, 2018 - 10:10pm PT
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Nov 11 update on their Facebook page.
Hey everyone. Well...we lied. We promised a summer of regular progress updates and then mostly stayed quiet. Honestly, it's a bit unsettling to see the lodge (especially) gutted out as it is now. It's sort of like watching a loved one undergo surgery.
It was a tough summer. A lot got done, but not nearly enough to allow TPR to run in 2019. Instead, the repair/restoration/improvement work will continue next summer while the resort remains closed. It's critical that we make the most of the situation at hand towards the goal of setting the resort up to keep hosting guests for another 100 years.
Now for a big announcement: We've recently acquired nearby Saddlebag Lake Resort inclusive of its very popular water taxi operation. As many may know, SLR was once a "sister resort" to TPR. TPR and SLR are distinct settings which compliment each other well, and we hope to foster a certain synergy between them in the coming years. Meanwhile, the plan is to run the water taxi and possibly a minimal food & beverage operation at SLR next year while the primary focus remains on the TPR project.
That's it for now. You can expect more frequent engagement here in the coming months. There's some change blowin' in the wind up in the pass. We'll share some of those plans with you as things progress.
Thanks as always for the your enthusiasm and support
TD
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Risk
Mountain climber
Marooned, 855 miles from Tuolumne Meadows
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Nov 13, 2018 - 10:14pm PT
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As long as the boat taxi stays active....
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 13, 2018 - 11:17pm PT
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Mammoth Mt....? What's the punch line...?
Indeed. Makes sense Mammoth would get involved. Thing is, will they keep TPR and Saddlebag reasonable or turn them into another over priced place only the wealthy can afford.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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Nov 14, 2018 - 12:03am PT
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As long as the boat taxi stays active.... The ferry will be replaced with an exciting zip line at a nominal charge.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2018 - 12:19am PT
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As long as the boat taxi stays active....
Never understood why a climber would take the boat taxi. For dayhikers wanting to see 20 Lakes Basin, get it. But for a climber the walk around the lake is a good warm up.
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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Nov 14, 2018 - 01:17am PT
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i used it for early summer skiing. but it saves way less than say the echo lakes boat taxi. at a little over a mile it seems like a waste as long as the hiking or skinning is good on the west side of the lake.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Nov 14, 2018 - 04:58am PT
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Watch out for Bigfoot!
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John M
climber
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Nov 14, 2018 - 06:15am PT
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TPR has a group of investors from Mammoth Mtn. They bought Tioga Pass Resort some 12 (?) years ago and now Saddlebag which right now does not consist of much. It will be fun to see how this plays out. The area is an awesome place and great because it is not in the Federal Parks.
Hey Lynne,
Did you mean the corporation that owns mammoth mountain itself is who bought TPR or did you mean that the group that bought it is a group of people who live in the town of Mammoth Lakes?
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Nov 14, 2018 - 06:58am PT
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That place is a long ways from the nearest Home Depot. I can’t imagine trying to get anything done up there on any sort of budget or schedule.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Nov 14, 2018 - 12:32pm PT
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There is a home depot around the corner in Carson. It's but a hop, skip, & jump from Bishop & even closer to TPR.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Nov 14, 2018 - 05:34pm PT
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John M, things change so I will just say that when I started working at TPR I was told that a private group bought Tioga Pass Resort some of which lived in Mammoth. I don't know if they all did.
I'm glad they are taking their time to make it lovely and last for many more years. The bridge that was redone is awesome!
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John M
climber
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Nov 14, 2018 - 06:05pm PT
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Lynne, The reason that I asked is because there is bad feelings for how the corporation that bought mammoth mountain runs that mountain. I didn't want that rubbing off on TPR. It sounds to me like some people who live in the town of Mammoth lakes bought the property, because the corporation that bought mammoth mountain is a major corporation.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Nov 14, 2018 - 06:15pm PT
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What John M just said...
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ec
climber
ca
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Nov 14, 2018 - 07:59pm PT
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Never understood why a climber would take the boat taxi.
Because it was there.
 ec
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Nov 14, 2018 - 08:15pm PT
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Rode that taxi back in 66 when i was a youngster...
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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Nov 14, 2018 - 09:09pm PT
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It sounds to me like some people who live in the town of Mammoth lakes bought the property, maybe that's why they ran out of funds for the rebuild.
I'd rather see towns people own the TPR than a corporation.
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Risk
Mountain climber
Marooned, 855 miles from Tuolumne Meadows
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Nov 14, 2018 - 09:30pm PT
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Never understood why a climber would take the boat taxi.
Save oneself a mile or more each direction stumbling over an unmaintained "trail" contouring a reservoir to get to the destination. Done it both ways many times, sometimes to save money, other times to save time or effort. Unless all motorboats are excluded (not gonna happen), water taxis should be in. Your choice to take it or not.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2018 - 09:33pm PT
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Lots of $$$$ in Mammoth. And folks that live in LA/SF with mega money with vacation homes in Mammoth.
We'll see what they do with TPR and Saddlebag; my guess is they will do what developers do.
Did a google search as to who bought TPR. This is all I could find:
https://thetahoeweekly.com/2018/08/cohen-named-president-chief-operating-officer-of-squaw-valley-alpine-meadows/
"Cohen is a graduate of University of California Santa Barbara and of Northwestern University School of Law. He started his career practicing law in Los Angeles and then Mammoth Lakes before purchasing Tioga Pass Resort, a back-country ski and summer resort, with a group of other investors, and running it from 2002-10."
So did he sell it in 2010?
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Nov 15, 2018 - 09:33am PT
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Maybe the road will not close this year.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 15, 2018 - 11:50am PT
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Jon, like they say about investing: this time it will be different.
FWIW, the snow's later than average this season.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 15, 2018 - 01:11pm PT
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So does anyone know who bought TPR and are funding the acquisition of Saddlebag?
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Nov 15, 2018 - 06:17pm PT
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Lots of speculation on this thread, or perhaps misunderstanding. Will try to clear some things up.
Ron Cohen managed TPR (ran it) for a number of years. Then Joe Hannigan took over and managed this wonderful place for about 8 ? years and the last year before the hard winter and the lodge was damaged Dave Levy managed TPR.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Nov 15, 2018 - 06:25pm PT
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what is the fee for getting motorboated on sadddlebag..?
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Nov 15, 2018 - 07:01pm PT
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The boat ride will cost you your dignity
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Nov 15, 2018 - 07:04pm PT
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I resent that comment...
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Nov 16, 2018 - 07:43am PT
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I remember timing it and after the overhead of paying and queueing, it saved like 2 minutes or somesuch. Long time ago.
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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Nov 16, 2018 - 07:50am PT
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I never took the boatride. At first I let my pride get in the way. But after some friends convinced me it was an experience to be experienced, haha, I was always up and away before the dang thing was open for business.
I rode the boat once, but the walk is not bad.
do they stop running the boat in the afternoon?
both times that I was on the north shore, around 4pm, the boat wasn't there.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Nov 16, 2018 - 09:44am PT
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"Cohen is a graduate of University of California Santa Barbara and of Northwestern University School of Law. He started his career practicing law in Los Angeles and then Mammoth Lakes before purchasing Tioga Pass Resort, a back-country ski and summer resort, with a group of other investors, and running it from 2002-10." Good move on his part. Some of us are still stuck practicing law in Los Angeles.
No love for the water taxi. I've found it much preferable to the hike, which is OK, but not nearly as interesting as the stuff that awaits you at the far end of the lake.
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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Nov 16, 2018 - 10:33am PT
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Since we are talking about Saddlebag, what happened to the lake this summer? Was it's being empty when I visited in September due at least in part to the sinkhole near the dam? The hole was filled when I went back in October.
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ec
climber
ca
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Nov 16, 2018 - 12:36pm PT
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The boat ride was great fun for my wife and especially our sons when they were young to expedite hiking the beautiful recesses on the far side.
One time, riding across to do North Peak, there were a few gusts of wind that literally blew the boat 90 degrees off track a few times; scared the sh!t outta everyone, including the operator. My partner, Ron Felton said, “F*ck! I’m putting the life vest on my pack! It’s eveything of value I own!
ec
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2018 - 03:02pm PT
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My partner, Ron Felton said, “F*ck! I’m putting the life vest on my pack! It’s eveything of value I own!
ec
A man with priorities.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2018 - 03:18pm PT
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The boat ride was great fun for my wife and especially our sons when they were young to expedite hiking the beautiful recesses on the far side.
Twenty Lakes Basin is a treat however you get there. You can cruise for miles and see incredible places and panoramas.
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TahoeHangDogger
climber
Olympic Valley, CA
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Nov 16, 2018 - 03:46pm PT
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Anyone ever work for Cohen personally? He is now CEO of Squaw Alpine. Seems like a small improvement over Wirth at least.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2018 - 04:06pm PT
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Lynne alluded to "management", but who are the OWNERS/INVESTORS?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Nov 16, 2018 - 06:03pm PT
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Good news about Squaws new CEO as in good riddance...The guy hosed the nordic community down here ...Tahoe deserves him...
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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Nov 16, 2018 - 09:34pm PT
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Tahoe deserves him Hey now!!
And even with all the 'devil you know' stuff we'll take him over wirthless
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Risk
Mountain climber
Marooned, 855 miles from Tuolumne Meadows
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Nov 17, 2018 - 09:09am PT
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The boat ride will cost you your dignity
Jon, no shame here! Once, there was a search that included Young Lakes, where I was scheduled to patrol for a few days. The helicopter was shuttling searchers back to Tuolumne, with a Young Lake pick up scheduled. I somehow talked them in to letting me hitch a ride out there. I scurried back to my cabin and grabbed a cold six pack to bring along. No shame!
I did research at McCabe Lakes in 1988 and needed to go out there about every 2 or 3 weeks. Taking the boat was the way to go!
By the way, my battery made it home via FedEx disguised as a stereo receiver, thanks to your sound advice and tape!
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