Does anyone remember a climber named Luke Stong

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Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 26, 2012 - 08:38pm PT
Just Talked with my friend Tom.
Luke still is, or was in Patton.
toadgas

Trad climber
los angeles
Dec 26, 2012 - 08:41pm PT
Just Talked with my friend Tom.
He still is, or was in Patton.



that's a comfy place, with a scenic view of the San Bernardino Mountains




best of luck to poor old Luke




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Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Dec 26, 2012 - 08:43pm PT
Ron, she actually froze to death. He shot her, she survived, and they found her frozen and clearly in the act of crawling out of his van. He was a few hundred yards away and in fact shot himself but survived. He's out of Canyon City. In fact I met him last Summer. It freaked me out for very personal reasons. The abduction happened in front of my college advisors house and he was the guy that called the police. He still lives with the guilt of that call not saving her life. She was 19. Anyhow just felt I should clear that up a little and not to call out you by any means.

I seem to remember Kenny pulling a block off on himself. That was a bad year for the Boulder community. Lots of carnage.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 26, 2012 - 08:45pm PT
1999 article - Chula Vista family killers

Goedecke is dead
Morse is still in prison, doesn't show up in locator

This article profiles 12 murderers identified by prosecutors and police officers as truly evil due to their lack of remorse, their killings of police officers, their being a police officer who killed, or their multiple murders.
Abstract: Brenda Spencer was 16 years old in 1979 when she shot and killed an elementary school principal and custodian and wounded eight children and a police officer. Veronica and Ivan Gonzales abused and tortured their niece to death and became the first married couple in California to go on death row. Other offenders in this group include triple murderer Joseph Bernard Morse and murderers Robert Alton Harris and Raymond Goedecke. Charles Tyberg and Joselito Cinco killed police officers and were sentenced to death. California Highway Patrol Officer Craig Peyer strangled a 20-year-old woman. Cleophus Prince, Jr., was prosecuted for the stabbing deaths of six women in 1993. Other serial killers profiled include David Lucas and Brandon Wilson

Luke Stong is still alive by the lookup that reveals Goedecke is dead.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Dec 26, 2012 - 08:46pm PT
One of Layton's partners killed a woman and got busted after she was in the trunk of his car for 4 days, and one of the climbers who made a very early ascent of the Nose killed many people. Quote Here


ha! So its starting to look like more than a few screws loose after all! What the hell is with the car trunk sh#t? In the usual continental us climate isn't that like putting her in the slow cooker? And just who the hell is this very early ascent of the Nose guy who "killed many people"? I don't remember reading any of this stuff in Chris Jones history book!

I take it all back - you guys really do need your guns!!!!
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 26, 2012 - 09:07pm PT
Toadsky,

Poor old Luke spent his time stealing climbing gear at the top of fixed ropes and then ultimately murdered and cut up his grand mother so she would fit in the trunk of her car he then stole.

Mental illness for being wierd only, as described and sometimes cured, is a long way from proper state sanctions for working one's amateur butchering skills on an old woman and stuffing her bits in a trunk...

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 26, 2012 - 09:09pm PT
Allen, consider the source.
Thanks for the correction.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 26, 2012 - 09:12pm PT
As the California Supreme Court powerfully stated in _People v. Morse_, the jury "looks at the individual as a whole being and decides
if he is fit to live," 60 Cal.2d 631, 637. In making this awesome
decision, the jury is guided by the instructions of the trial judge,
which define a reasoned process for approaching what remains a
profoundly moral decision about the value of a human life.

If, upon weighing the applicable aggravating and
mitigating factors, you conclude that the
appropriate penalty is life imprisonment without
the possibility of parole, then it would be a
violation of your duty as jurors to return a
verdict of death out of fear or concern that the
Department of Corrections or its Director may fail
in their responsibilities under law to provide the
defendant with psychotherapy or other care which
may be needed to achieve rehabilitation or prevent
future acts of violence."

Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Dec 26, 2012 - 09:39pm PT
Consider the source! That's for sure Ron. Funny you should mention the other guy. The last route I did this past fall is one of his. Absolutely classic 5 inch offwidth to a scary face protected by two bolts he drilled something like 40 years ago. His Platte routes are all genius.
toadgas

Trad climber
los angeles
Dec 26, 2012 - 09:44pm PT
"Abstract: Brenda Spencer was 16 years old in 1979 when she shot and killed an elementary school principal and custodian and wounded eight children and a police officer."



When asked why she did it, Brenda replied, "I don't like Mondays...."


Later, the Boomtown Rats rock band had a hit song titled I Don't Like Mondays ...based on the Brenda Spencer shooting incident


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Don't_Like_Mondays


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Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 26, 2012 - 09:47pm PT
Well mine aren't, and there's only one of them.

But doesn't 5" make it a fist crack?
turd

climber
Dec 26, 2012 - 09:51pm PT
I seem to remember Kenny pulling a block off on himself.

I remember hearing this story and a bunch of others about Kenny in the late '80s in Boulder. Didn't the Shield in Eldo get renamed "Psycho Killer" after he pulled the block off?
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 26, 2012 - 09:54pm PT
Spencer - yep - another one for San Diego

and Huberty (San Ysidro)

Harris was another San Diego guy.

Harris was twenty five years old when he shot two San Diego teenagers to death. Prosecutors told the jury that Harris taunted the victims before they died, laughed at them after he pulled the trigger, then calmly ate the hamburgers they had bought for lunch

His last words before dying in the gas chamber:

"You can be a king or a street sweeper, but everyone dances with the grim reaper." (from Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure no less). Doesn't appear to by a lyric in anyone's song.

Robert Harris had a violent and unhappy childhood that started in the womb. He was born three months premature after his mother was brutally assaulted by his father who kicked her in the stomach. Both parents inflicted frequent beatings on young Robert who suffered a broken jaw at the age of two after a punch form his father. For sport, his father would load a gun and tell the children they had 30 minutes to hide outside the house, after which he would shoot them down like animals.


http://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/death/US/harris169.htm

Wonder what Luke's early life was like.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 26, 2012 - 10:30pm PT
got some drift here, but doesn't it always go that way?

Procedure 769

Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Dec 26, 2012 - 11:33pm PT
Such a picturesque post-modern setting!
Chief

climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
Dec 26, 2012 - 11:57pm PT
If it's the same guy, I remember Luke "Skywalker".
Weird guy with far away eyes.
Not at all surprised if he turned out to be a Granny murderer.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 27, 2012 - 12:12am PT
Same guy.
Anastasia

climber
InLOVEwithAris.
Dec 27, 2012 - 12:47am PT
You guys are scaring me silly! I figure most folks are selfish and that's the reason they do bad stuff. Most are not truly evil, just extremely short sighted. This guy, now that's evil.

May I and the folks I love, heck even the folks I dislike... May they never have the experience of dealing with someone who is truly Evil.

AFS
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Dec 27, 2012 - 01:08am PT
Yeah. I remember that guy. He had a way creepy vibe. I heard about him dismembering Granny and didn't even blink.
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Dec 27, 2012 - 01:14am PT
I have small hands Ron. And the thing flares. It has a classy name that you of all people could dig. "Chamber Music."
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