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Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Aug 29, 2018 - 07:13pm PT
You know there's got to be some serious brain chemistry at work when the nagging curiosity, the daydreaming and anticipation that precedes a maiden exploration becomes all consuming.
The psychology and neuroscience of curiosity
Celeste Kidd and Benjamin Y. Hayden

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SUMMARY
Curiosity is a basic element of our cognition, yet its biological function, mechanisms, and neural underpinning remain poorly understood. It is nonetheless a motivator for learning, influential in decision-making, and crucial for healthy development. One factor limiting our understanding of it is the lack of a widely agreed upon delineation of what is and is not curiosity; another factor is the dearth of standardized laboratory tasks that manipulate curiosity in the lab. Despite these barriers, recent years have seen a major growth of interest in both the neuroscience and psychology of curiosity. In this Perspective, we advocate for the importance of the field, provide a selective overview of its current state, and describe tasks that are used to study curiosity and information-seeking. We propose that, rather than worry about defining curiosity, it is more helpful to consider the motivations for information-seeking behavior and to study it in its ethological context.

Keywords: Curiosity, information-seeking, learning, Goldilocks effect, uncertainty
BACKGROUND
Curiosity is such a basic component of our natures that we are nearly oblivious to its pervasiveness in our lives. Consider, though, how much of our time we spend seeking and consuming information, whether listening to the news or music, browsing the internet, reading books or magazines, watching TV, movies, and sports, or otherwise engaging in activities not directly related to eating, reproduction, and basic survival. Our insatiable demand for information drives a much of the global economy and, on a micro-scale, motivates learning and drives patterns of foraging in animals. Its diminution is a symptom of depression, and its overexpression contributes to distractibility, a symptom of disorders such as attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder. Curiosity is thought of as the noblest of human drives, and is just as often as it is denigrated as dangerous (as in the expression “curiosity killed the cat”). And despite its link with the most abstract human thoughts, some rudimentary forms of it can be observed even in the humble worm C. elegans.

Despite its pervasiveness, we lack even the most basic integrative theory of the basis, mechanisms, and purpose of curiosity. Nonetheless, as a psychological phenomenon, curiosity—and the desire for information more broadly—has attracted the interest of the biggest names in the history of psychology (e.g., James, 1913; Pavlov, 1927; Skinner, 1938). Despite this interest, only recently have psychologists and neuroscientists begun widespread and coordinated efforts to unlock its mysteries (e.g., Gottlieb et al., 2013; Gruber, Gelman & Ranganath, 2014; Kang et al., 2009). The present Perspective aims summarize this recent research, motivate new interested in the problem, and to tentatively propose a framework for future studies of the neuroscience and psychology of curiosity.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4635443/
MH2

Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
Aug 29, 2018 - 07:28pm PT
I'm curious about what c. elegans is curious about. And dubious about calling it curiosity.
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Aug 29, 2018 - 08:33pm PT
Orientation and exploratory behavior runs deep in our species.
i'm gumby dammit

Sport climber
da ow
Aug 29, 2018 - 09:53pm PT
I like Google and I love exploring. Driving from Aspen to Salt Lake City on a mountain collective trip I looked south and saw the snow covered La Sals. Turned south to Moab and found a route up into the mountains with my phone. From the trailhead where I was able to sleep in my car I took off with no mountains in sight. i was able to get up high just using the obvious road trail and once I saw all the mountains around me I was able to navigate to the one without any tracks with my phone. I could have easily made it there in a much longer time but my phone got my the quickest route with the least elevation changes through dense forest.
The point is, I like wandering into the mountains with no destination, but with the tools to make the best of my day as well. And then things work out like this
la sals- went to check out tomasaki, but ended up on mount mellenthin


elks, just wandering back to see what the bells were all about. ended up on landry

wandering near anthony lakes

Q- Ball

Mountain climber
but to scared to climb them anymore
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 30, 2018 - 06:01am PT
Great stories everyone!

I was for a long timed obsessed which the Altai mountains (Russia/Mongolia). I bugged some folks long enough that they let me join a snow leopard research project in the Altai Republic. After a few weeks the leaders decided I was half sane and wasn't trying to kill myself. They cut me loose to wander solo wherever I wanted. And wander I did!

Then summer ended, back to school, haha!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Aug 30, 2018 - 07:06am PT
Perfect Day Patagonia - Tierra del Fuego
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpCW_InOzFc

Had I the freedom to do so as a younger man (which I never did experience nor earn, such a pity) I'd have loved to cruise the archipelago along Chile's coast, but in a more independent manner than these guided creatures with their comforts--catered meals, coffee-on-demand, etc.--in this video.

I enjoyed the footage (when she shut up) and the area looks FANTASTIC for cross-country travel, as I never liked trails if I didn't have to follow them. But I'm older now, creakin' along, and that kind of travel is long behind me now...I'm just not able to move fast enough, and that sucks, but I like "the armchair" as it's better than not having my curiosity fed to be able to view these glimpses of distant lands of all elevations.

The planet is such a large place, so diversified, that it boggles one. N'est-ce pas?
kpinwalla2

Social climber
WA
Aug 30, 2018 - 07:59am PT
As I see it, there are only two sorts of places (not counting the ocean floor) on Earth where you stand a pretty good chance of being the first human to have been there - very steep terrain (cliffs, mountainsides), and caves. I was once an active caver, primarily motivated by that sense of "going where no one has gone before" and for a while now that's been my primary attraction for doing new routes. For me, it's vastly more satisfying to establish one new route (regardless of grade, quality, etc.) than to climb 20 routes that have been done many times. I've talked to many, many climbers over the years about their motivations, and "exploration" or "path-finding" seems to be relatively uncommon. I think it must be genetic.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 30, 2018 - 08:48am PT
Sailed hitherto uncharted waters off California yesterday. OK, not literally but our trip yesterday was the first ever to see four species of Boobys in one day! OK, so it wasn’t exactly the voyage of HMS Endeavor but I’ll take it. 🤓

But I am planning a sailing trip to Novaya Zemlya, Spitsbergen, and Scoresby Sund, Greenland. Will that get me into da club?
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado & Nepal
Aug 30, 2018 - 08:54am PT
There are other ways to explore unknown territory. One of them is to be the first woman to go someplace or do something, or the first western person. This is still possible in many remote regions.

One curious thing about exploration, is that there is a certain percentage of people who are the first into an area (in Nepal because politically it was closed to foreigners until 1952 ) who then want to keep everyone else out. It was ok for them to interrupt the pristine isolation of places and peoples, but they then decide no one else is worthy.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Aug 30, 2018 - 11:51am PT
If you are currently in the position of reading about other's exploration & adventures, here's another good place to get lots of free adventure fixes.

Adventure Journal

A great website for reading about adventurers, known and unknown.

https://www.adventure-journal.com/categ ... al-badass/
Q- Ball

Mountain climber
but to scared to climb them anymore
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 30, 2018 - 12:34pm PT
I wonder if it is ambition, curiosity, or genetic? Or all the above?

My father at age 18 bought a small sailboat then drove to national geographic's headquarters and asked them if they wanted to buy his photographs because he was planning on sailing round the world. They said yup!

He spent three years visiting the remotest specks of land at sea. He says the hardest thing was after getting a good fix on coordinates that he had crossed his previous position was which way to turn the wheel!

Luckily he turned north and not back to Panama, so here I am! Haha
Fossil climber

Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
Aug 30, 2018 - 06:13pm PT
That "path less travelled" attitude turns out to be satisfying in life in general.
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Aug 31, 2018 - 09:22am PT
Q, I'm with you.

I would rather scramble, bushwhack and get the shite scared out of me on some choss pile than do a nice safe acceptable guide book route.


Kids today have safety hammered into them. Growing up in the 60's we were free-range kids.


Funny to see the local LA area climbing facebook group. Often people make a big deal out of "climbing outdoors." HA HA HA HA HA HA
Q- Ball

Mountain climber
but to scared to climb them anymore
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 18, 2018 - 10:02am PT
I got a buddy bugging me to take him into the jungle next spring. I may make it my last jungle foray. Maybe hang up my boots and enjoy a relaxing vacation for once.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 18, 2018 - 10:29am PT
I’d take you up on such an offer if I wasn’t so soft now. The jungle fascinates me but it ain’t my turf and I don’t like hot and humid. Am planning on a birding trip to Costa Rica but that will be way soft. Do want to see some snakes but I have an irrational fear of brushing against an Eyelash Viper hanging in some trailside bush. Saw a Youtube vid just yesterday where some dude went out with a crazy Kraut herp guy and they found a Bushmaster in under an hour! I suspect the herp guy kind of knew it was around there but the point is that I was amazed at how mellow the Bushie was. Not at all aggressive. Do you consider Terciopelos more aggressive?
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Sep 18, 2018 - 01:18pm PT
Fer de Lance kills the most people, but that's because it likes agricultural fields.

I had a science teacher in HS that explored the Amazon and was a member of the Explorer's Club.

Years later I gave a slide show there. My mom questioned me why the EC. I reminded her of the number of summits that I was first to visit.
Q- Ball

Mountain climber
but to scared to climb them anymore
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 18, 2018 - 04:41pm PT
Reilly,
Bushmasters are not known from Honduras, so I have no knowledge on them vs bothrops asper aka fer de lance. I can show you some jungle birds and make the trip civilized haha :)

I have always wanted to see an eyelash viper, no dice yet!

Hugh or Q
ecdh

climber
the east
Sep 18, 2018 - 05:40pm PT
isnt the point of climbing so you can climb new terrain? otherwise its like learning to read but never writing your own stuff.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Sep 18, 2018 - 07:37pm PT


even when not the first, the traces of the first tickle the mind.
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Sep 18, 2018 - 08:01pm PT
isnt the point of climbing so you can climb new terrain? otherwise its like learning to read but never writing your own stuff.

Well, we can't all be writers and actually I've read a lot more interesting stories than I have written. However, I get your point.

Me, I've had itchy feet since my folks moved me and my brothers from bumfeck Colorado to bumfeck Peru to live.
I still seem to be wandering and exploring new places ever since.
For me though I'm a big fan of getting to know a place deeply which is why I tend to spend years exploring a country when I can. And I'm drawn to those regions of the world in which the physical geographic (jungles, deserts, high mountains, ) or the cultural geography is different than my home base of the Sierra in Ca.

While "new terrain" where "no one has been" is an exciting possibility for many I would argue that exploration can happen anytime one is exposed to a new or different situations than they are familiar with. If its a first or new for you than exploration is happening. Its just a matter of degree.

my 2⍧


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