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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 20, 2018 - 10:26pm PT
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I'm putting together an old school trad rack of stoppers, hexes, tri-cams, tube chocks and a few other bits to go over the mantle piece. Need some old Chouinard biners to round it out. Don't intend to actually use it, so beaters are perfect.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Aug 20, 2018 - 10:33pm PT
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Just pulled all mine off my rack when I realized what they were going for on Ebay. More than the price of wire gates.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Outside the Asylum
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Aug 20, 2018 - 10:34pm PT
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I may have a few Robbins ovals - would they do?
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2018 - 10:56pm PT
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Yeah Anders; in fact, don't have any Robbins biners. That would be great! SMC's or other old brands are good too. Ovals or D's. I don't mind ponying up a few bills but it's not worth paying ebay prices.
Anyone that has something, email me at:
johntpenca@gmail.com
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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Aug 20, 2018 - 11:43pm PT
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hah, I still use mine...
Well, except for the ones that I returned because of the cracks in them.
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Aug 21, 2018 - 12:43am PT
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I got a box of that stuff you can have.
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Gunkie
Trad climber
Valles Marineris
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Aug 21, 2018 - 04:26am PT
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Just pulled all mine off my rack when I realized what they were going for on Ebay. More than the price of wire gates.
Time to upgrade my rack.
I was climbing in the Gunks last week and it became readily apparent that my rigid stem Friends and non-wire gate carabiners were just so dated. But they still work great. I'm too cheap of a bastard to just trash my old reliable gear for new stuff; but if I'm getting $15 for each of my old biners, SOLD. And I have a pile of those old orange gate Bonatti 'D' biners that had gates with such a strong spring that when pumped, there was a good chance I wouldn't be able to open them. I racked those strategically.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 21, 2018 - 10:49am PT
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Thanks zip. Send me an email. I'll cover shipping and some cash for the time and biners. I have plenty of old time chocks, just want old school biners.
Thanks!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 21, 2018 - 01:32pm PT
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Rigid stems are still better for some horizontal cracks.
Looking at those listings might be time to sell on eBay,...
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Outside the Asylum
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Aug 21, 2018 - 02:31pm PT
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John, are you coming to the Facelift? If so, I can trawl through stuff, and see if there's anything that might be useful in your display. IIRC, you very kindly sent me some old gear (magazines?) some years ago. Let me know if you need my e-mail.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 21, 2018 - 02:43pm PT
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$25 for some old heavy biner? Americans are so stoopid.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 21, 2018 - 07:19pm PT
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ohn, are you coming to the Facelift? If so, I can trawl through stuff, and see if there's anything that might be useful in your display. IIRC, you very kindly sent me some old gear (magazines?) some years ago. Let me know if you need my e-mail.
Won't make it this year. TK wrote me and says she has some bits. I'm in no hurry. I sent you an old mag of Sheridan Anderson's cartoons to give to TK. You sent me some photos of her standing on her head.
All I'm looking for are about 30 old school beaten biners. Don't care who made them, Chouinad, Robbins, SMC, Liberty, Eiger; it's all good. I have the chocks. Just want to put an authentic old school rack over the mantle.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Aug 21, 2018 - 09:48pm PT
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I was going through a friend of mine Peter Noebels' rack before heading up on a route and I spied at late 60s Chouinard biner. Close inspection revealed that the tight turn on the hinge side of the modified D carabiner looked like the cut end of a popover with tight layers all neatly flaking away from each other!
"Hey Peter, this biner is reverting back to its mineral state and maybe we should take it out of service and let it keep going", I said. He was horrified because everyone implicitly trusts Chouinard carabiners of any provenance.
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Aug 23, 2018 - 05:57am PT
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Ok, I got a box of that stuff. I hope to have a day off within the next week or so to dig through it.
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Aug 23, 2018 - 09:50pm PT
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I am still looking for a few Chouinard carabiners as well. Mostly the colored Quicksilvers...
 karabin714(at)gmail.com
Michael Chessler recently donated a 1989 Quicksilver and a 1989 Anthracite Quicksilver so I now have those which are not added on the display board yet.
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Aug 25, 2018 - 07:12am PT
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zip, I sent you an email via the taco email, did you get it?
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Aug 30, 2018 - 07:43am PT
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Ok, I found the box of all my old stuff.
I have Monday off, and I will sort through it then, and post pics here.
Tell me what you want, and I'll send it to you.
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Aug 30, 2018 - 07:44am PT
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Tobia, sorry nope.
I don't think that function works.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Aug 30, 2018 - 08:05am PT
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Speaking of old Chouinard biners, not safe to climb with, a few years back, I bought 5 Mid-80's to early 90's vintage Chouinard & Black Diamond Big D Lockers on E-Bay as collectables not for use.
The two Black Diamond ones had cracks in the gate, where the gate-pin is.
Out of curiousity, I called Black Diamond customer service & was assured biners that old were no longer in warranty.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Aug 30, 2018 - 08:07am PT
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Age alone does not weaken a biner
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 30, 2018 - 03:44pm PT
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Ok, I found the box of all my old stuff.
I have Monday off, and I will sort through it then, and post pics here.
Tell me what you want, and I'll send it to you.
Just want old school biners; brand doesn't matter. The more beater the better. I'm not gonna use them, just want to put together an old time rack to put on the mantle. I have plenty of old chocks for my purposes; looking for around 20-30 biners.
Thanks for any you can spare. I'm in no hurry.
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Found a box of this stuff,
I have one more box to find.
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sibylle
Trad climber
On the road!
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I still climb with my old Chouinard stoppers - the ones strung on perlon - after replacing the sling. If anyone wants to get rid of old stoppers, I'd love some!
I like them because:
they're lighter than the new wired stoppers
you can use them without t quick draw
the straight stoppers don't get stuck as easily as the curved ones.
We climbed the N. ridge of Conness using primarily stoppers, maybe 1 - 2 cams at a belay. If I'm carrying a rack that far, I like it to be light!
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sibylle
Trad climber
On the road!
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I have various old biners from the 60s and 70s, including this Chouinard biner - but I have no idea what year it's from.
Maybe someone here can enlighten me as to year and type of biner?
thanks,
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skip gaynard
Trad climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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I have many Chouinard biners and would never trade/sell/or get rid of them. It's history that I cherish from the 60's and 70's. Visa/Mastercards? Chouinard biners; priceless!!!
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skip gaynard
Trad climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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"Age alone does not weaken a biner"
I checked with Jonny Woodward since I was concerned about using old gear and he confirmed the above. If you know the history of your gear then its your choice. Just FYI, Jonny Woodward worked at Black Diamond and invented the "Hot wire" carabiner so he knows his stuff.
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Roots
Mountain climber
Redmond, Oregon
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Hey Hey John. Thank you for your patience. I know I owe you much more than some carabiners, but here are the spares I currently have. Let me know where to send and they'll go out Monday.
BTW, How's Little Rock compare to OC?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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I could use some old carabiners for curls...lost a little muscle mass in the Karakoram.
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climbrunride
Sport climber
Golf Wall, CO
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I use an old Robbins oval for my nut tool. It just seems kind of appropriate.
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skip gaynard
Trad climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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The Robbins ovals are great for nut tools but get them off your rack for pro.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 7, 2018 - 08:43pm PT
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Hey Hey John. Thank you for your patience. I know I owe you much more than some carabiners, but here are the spares I currently have. Let me know where to send and they'll go out Monday.BTW, How's Little Rock compare to OC?
Roots; responded to your email. Thanks. Don't know why you owe me but thanks again.
Cheers!
John
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 7, 2018 - 08:49pm PT
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If anyone wants to get rid of old stoppers, I'd love some!
Sibylle, I can spare a couple; whatcha want? BITD loved reading of your exploits in a male dominated Yos. email me at johntpenca@gmail.com
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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I'm putting together an old school trad rack of stoppers, hexes, tri-cams, tube chocks and a few other bits
You just described my modern new rack.
I’ll sell ya some great hollow biners, though.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 8, 2018 - 02:56pm PT
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I’ll sell ya some great hollow biners, though.
Whatcha got?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 11, 2018 - 05:49pm PT
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Is it true that most guys there marry their girlfriend/cousins?
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Roots
Mountain climber
Redmond, Oregon
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Sep 12, 2018 - 09:37am PT
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^I think the joke starts off something like this:
What do girls in Arkansas and bears have in common?
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Roots
Mountain climber
Redmond, Oregon
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Sep 12, 2018 - 09:38am PT
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John - your carabiners shipped today. Please let us see a pic once your display is done!!
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hamie
Social climber
Thekoots
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Sep 14, 2018 - 11:53pm PT
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See any in here?
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jstan
climber
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Sep 15, 2018 - 12:33am PT
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Recycling takes no time and I believe you get $.70 a pound for aluminum. Simple, easy and no risk of someone getting hurt. Recently I used a demo saw to cut a tire off a fancy aluminum rim. IIRC I got more than $6 for the rim. The Clean Team has gained nearly $1000 from recycling aluminum cans.
I do suggest pitons are best pitched into the iron dumpsters. Worth about four cents a pound. If you can find a buyer.
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Sep 20, 2018 - 11:54am PT
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zip,
contact me at tobiab56 at gmail dot com
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Sep 20, 2018 - 12:13pm PT
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This reminds me of climbing with Steve Roper at J Tree back in the early 2000's. We walked to the base of the Hemmingway and realized we had forgotten the draws.
This proves that no matter how long a person has been climbing f**kups still occur.
Steve goes back to the car to get his draws.
He returns with brand new Petzl Express draws. On the draws were old heavy biners he stole from Chouinard back in the mid 60's.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 21, 2018 - 03:43pm PT
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Is it true that most guys there marry their girlfriend/cousins?
Nah, the cut off is second cousins.
Seriously, there are parts that are a bit backwards and it's bible belt. But by and large there are educated people. Some folks that seem simple have made a lot of money on their common sense smarts and advanced education. The south is not as hicksville as the media portrays it.
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