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Power Crux
Social climber
Enjoying a micro take
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 16, 2018 - 12:46pm PT
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 16, 2018 - 12:49pm PT
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Lean forward Donald...you know what you really want to do.
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Tom Patterson
Trad climber
Seattle
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Jul 16, 2018 - 02:15pm PT
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Un-freakin-believable display of treason today.
I'm 60...and I've never seen its match. Seen plenty of other crappy stuff, but this one is for the history books.
At this point, it's on the GOP. Trump has shown himself to be who we saw today time and time again. And while it is still shocking to see it in real time, we saw Trump be Trump. It's up to the GOP to stand up on behalf of the country--if they could just locate their misplaced spines...
"Now where do I put those vertebae...?" (Probably the same place they set aside their souls.)
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jul 16, 2018 - 02:18pm PT
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I can't always remember "Power Curx"
but;
"Down Park Rd,dumping the tanks"
still makes me laugh.....
Now This: You Can't spell "TRE45ON" Without 45
Thank You
Nafod
If Trump asked the Repubs for a virgin girl in return for a SCOTUS pick, they’d be dragging their daughters out of Elementary school quicker than you can say “Sesame Streeet:
As long as "Daddy doesn't count", they'll be from elementary school
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Jul 16, 2018 - 02:37pm PT
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Pee tape. . .
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hobo_dan
Social climber
Minnesota
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Jul 16, 2018 - 02:57pm PT
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Painful to watch such cowardice-seriously Republicans? Where is the outrage?
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nafod
Boulder climber
State college
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Jul 16, 2018 - 03:13pm PT
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-seriously Republicans? Where is the outrage?
GORSUCH
It is all worth it.
If Trump asked the Repubs for a virgin girl in return for a SCOTUS pick, they’d be dragging their daughters out of Elementary school quicker than you can say “Sesame Street”
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Rollover
climber
Gross Vegas
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Jul 16, 2018 - 03:19pm PT
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Bullwinkle^^^- my GF said that first thing this am!!!
Hehehe..
Gotta be some good dirt..
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jul 16, 2018 - 03:19pm PT
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To efin much
Anti - American
A violation of the oath
maybe have Marine 2 ready, And then have the Srgnt at Arms of the Marines meet Airforce 1, put the Baboon in cuffs, lock him in a room in the Ambassador's residence, swear in Pence
and
be on the crimes, of treasonous subterfuge against the American legal process, by mis-use & abuse of office.
High crimes by all of the players trumpo, bring charges against Congress man Nunese,Jordan, Gowdy, et.Al, & find the McConnell/Ukrainian money & PUT HIM IN FRONT OF A FIRING SQUAD.
Be on those crimes like white on rice,
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lars johansen
Trad climber
West Marin, CA
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Jul 16, 2018 - 03:30pm PT
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Recent linocut from my studio:
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 16, 2018 - 03:42pm PT
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Can you imagine the outcry if Obama had said the things regarding Putin that have come out of Trump’s mouth.
“Patriotic” white Americans where is your censure? The only thing I see is your appalling hypocrisy.
“Patriotic” white Anericans where is your outrage? The only thing I see is your misguided sense of entitlement based on your race and not on your worth.
Trump defenders on ST, you know who you are, crawl out of your hiding places and defend your tyrant. I would love to see your arguments.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jul 16, 2018 - 04:13pm PT
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Well said ,Mr Donini.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Jul 16, 2018 - 04:24pm PT
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Every fuking day he takes us further down as a nation!
It’s got to end soon.
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jonnyrig
climber
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Jul 16, 2018 - 04:33pm PT
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Well, y'all did put up Hillary. Who's next... Oprah? It'll be Trump: part deux.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 16, 2018 - 04:36pm PT
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No it doesn't. Quite sincerely it could just be the beginning. We're only two years into it possible 8-year presidency
This.
Brace yourselves.
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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Jul 16, 2018 - 04:43pm PT
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somebody has to resuscitate the word deplorable, i rise:
trump unfurled his swamp colors on the top of the heap
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knudeNoggin
climber
Falls Church, VA
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Jul 16, 2018 - 04:47pm PT
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[something along these lines, to the old Christian-familiar tune ... ]
Putin loves me, this I know,
for Dear Vladi tells me so.
Narrcistic ones to him belong;
they are weak, but he is strong.
Yes, Putin loves me! Yes, Putin loves me!
Yes, Putin loves me! Dear Vladi tells me so.
By Putin's hands no one has died
Vladi's heart is open wide.
He will stash away my sin,
as long as I keep up my Lyin' Spin.
Yes, Putin loves me! Yes, Putin loves me!
Yes, Putin loves me! Dear Vladi tells me so.
Putin loves me, this I know,
as he has this video,
with great zoom lens for all to see,
things that would embarrass me.
Yes, Putin loves me! Yes, Putin loves me!
Yes, Putin loves me! Dear Vladi tells me so.
[improvements welcomed]
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Jul 16, 2018 - 05:59pm PT
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You'd think that a great photographer would see the forest through the trees...
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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Jul 16, 2018 - 06:14pm PT
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Lean forward Donald...you know what you really want to do.
That's right, drumpf polished more than shoes. Nawmean?
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Jul 16, 2018 - 07:06pm PT
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Traitor in Chief......
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Timbers of Fennario
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Jul 16, 2018 - 07:14pm PT
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Jody gets dressed for supertopo
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David Knopp
Trad climber
CA
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Jul 16, 2018 - 07:39pm PT
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Originalpacmac you slander that pig.
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Jul 16, 2018 - 07:55pm PT
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Donini nailed it- a few will peal away, many will clean their guns and make their ammo casses accessible.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Jul 16, 2018 - 07:57pm PT
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Jul 16, 2018 - 08:08pm PT
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“Trump looked incredibly weak up there. Putin looks like a champion... I'd like to say I'm shocked but this is the world in which we live now.”
— Senior Trump Administration official
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 16, 2018 - 08:18pm PT
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Funny thing Judy
I feel sorry for Cara, her family and boyfriend
I don't feel much of anything for a bunch of ne'er-do-well thugs whose code protects even killers because the highest loyalty is to the gang
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 16, 2018 - 08:42pm PT
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Jody, aside from denigrating a few folks you have said absolutely zero in defense of Trump...then again you’re not a magician who can create something out of nothing.
Your best tactic would have been complete and utter silence..
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Jul 16, 2018 - 09:51pm PT
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Your best tactic would have been complete and utter silence..
Proverbs 21:23-24
23 Watch your tongue and keep your mouth shut, and you will stay out of trouble. 24 Mockers are proud and haughty; they act with boundless arrogance.
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nafod
Boulder climber
State college
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Jul 17, 2018 - 04:56am PT
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and the evidence of Trump colluding with Russia is?
He just did it in front of the world at the press conference.
Edit: beautiful pictures, thanks
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jul 17, 2018 - 05:30am PT
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The 1st Ive been back in a bit, the echo chamber found its reverberation,
& surprise, it still SOUNDS INSANE. That the day is night in the photographers' eyes, still, shows the depth of the ability to brain wash the limited.
we love the un-educated..
don't read, history is fake my stories are better
when the russian kleptocrate, paid the pussygrabber & Thief for the mansion in Florida, for 40 million in profit, it proved money laundering, collusion, then from that trail to willful abuse of office, numerous violations, & failure to duly uphold the oath of office, the orange one should be living in a clashing jump suit, that reads, in white letters, Federal.Pen>
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jul 17, 2018 - 05:42am PT
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Ahhh... good... two separate threads of absurd hysteria. Maybe make a third just make sure all the approved hysterical talking points can be parroted back. Maybe some more third grade memes too.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jul 17, 2018 - 05:55am PT
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So Jody, you were iiirc, a reluctant Trump supporter in the election. Besides gleeful delight in the outrage of Democrats, and frankly, most of the world, what is your take on this?
Is there a rationale for further supporting this spineless treasonous Wimp, after these events especially?
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Gunkie
Trad climber
Valles Marineris
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Jul 17, 2018 - 06:00am PT
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Trump IS a Russian agent and needs to be held to account.
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Jul 17, 2018 - 06:08am PT
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Fear, Jody and other fools- While debating the supporting rationale, I reflexively support opposing views as important to the equilibrium of our discourse.
In this context I can only question what emotional trauma in your life has you people brushing an imminent threat to your fellow citizens under your incurious, apathetic rug.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Jul 17, 2018 - 06:38am PT
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jul 17, 2018 - 06:52am PT
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...imminent threat to your fellow citizens....
Contractor... there is no imminent threat. You're being played.
There's also a perfectly good established thread for the hysteria to play out if need be. These threads spread like cancer.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jul 17, 2018 - 07:02am PT
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Let's be clear, white nationalism is the driving agenda behind trump's embrace of Putin and Russia. That agenda in and of itself is unamerican, unconstitutional and turning it into a policy agenda of our government is treason.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Jul 17, 2018 - 07:16am PT
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Sorry Jody, nobody is going to remember your boring over saturated landscape shots. Even though some folks politely complement them because ... meh ... you wouldn't understand why
I don’t agree with Jody’s politics, and what he shares here seems to epitomize the scourge of parochial fear that is driving “conservatives.” As for “liberals”- I wish people got more fired up about campaign finance reform, anti-gerrymandering laws, and enshrining the supremacy of human rights over corporate rights.
That said, I’ll remember Jody’s landscape shots. They show he has an eye for beauty in nature, something I thought we all shared in common. It’s not a unique gift, but it is something that gives a lot of folks happy moments enjoying those scenes vicariously and remembering our own beautiful moments communing with the world around us away from a screen.
I thought the clouds and the lighting in them were pretty exquisite in the most recent shots... but we each see what we want to see, message more or less colored by the messenger.
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Jul 17, 2018 - 07:22am PT
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Follow the money!
The simple explanation is Trump Inc depends on oligarch money.
It certainly appears he is part of several money laundering schemes.
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mooch
Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
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Jul 17, 2018 - 07:38am PT
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No, Trump is not colluding with Putin. He knows what he is doing...keeping his friends close and his enemies closer. No better way to make your adversaries play nice...
Care to explain why he's alienating all of our allies? Canada, England, Germany etc. I'd say what you have to say above is a contradiction and far from the truth. Did you have your FOX cereal this morning, complete with Trump "decoder ring"?
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mooch
Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
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Jul 17, 2018 - 07:45am PT
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Shedding off one more layer of skin,
Keeping one step ahead of the persecutor within...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Barney Rubble
Trad climber
ALAMEDA
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Jul 17, 2018 - 08:53am PT
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America is becoming the world’s biggest pushover.
After his meeting with Putin, Trump had a look on his face that I’ve seen before. I’m guessing that look was due to having his leash yanked very, very, hard by the guy who has played him for a fool.
He had that same look the night the election results were announced. When he realized that he was going to be performing tricks on the world stage as the lap dog of Putin, he was justifiably scared.
He had that same look after his one-on-one with Obama in the Oval Office before he took power. I can’t imagine what was said, but he was clearly scared.
I feel sorry for Trump. When he smiles it’s almost always masking pain or something twisted. The only time I can remember him smiling from the heart was the day he met with the Russians in the Oval Office. It must be very sad to be that confused.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 17, 2018 - 11:20am PT
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Yes and a few were slave holders, societies do change....either that or they die out.
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WyoRockMan
climber
Grizzlyville, WY
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Jul 17, 2018 - 11:24am PT
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The FBI was out to get Trump from the beginning. Why would he trust what they had to say?
The CIA, FBI, NSA, DIA, HSD, marine corps intelligence, navy intelligence, DONI, and the state department have unanimously agreed along with the Republican led Senate investigation that Russia interfered with our election.
I'm going with everyone else's word over Trump/Hannity and Putin.
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Jul 17, 2018 - 11:49am PT
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I heard tariffs are planned on Chinese cat doors.
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Gunkie
Trad climber
Valles Marineris
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Jul 17, 2018 - 12:01pm PT
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OMG, Trump is so f'ing stupid. He thinks changing "would" to "wouldn't" fixes everything. Such a F'ing liar.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 17, 2018 - 12:15pm PT
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Replace every reference to “trump” with “obama” in every story about this summit and the reactions would be interesting.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 17, 2018 - 12:21pm PT
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Conservative leaning columnist George Will summed in up nicely today in an oped in the Washington Post....”this sad, embarrassing wreck of a man.”
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jul 17, 2018 - 12:26pm PT
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You just have to remember that Jody is a man without morals.
He takes kids to meet another man without morals, Cruz, and makes him out to be a moral leader. Jody makes a big deal out of Cruz repudiating Trump, after Trump slimes Cruz's father.
A few weeks go by, then Cruz gets down on his knees and sings the Trump song.....and for protecting his father, Cruz gets placed on Trump's "do not touch" list.
Trump doesn't forget. Would that Jody had that attribute. You can see him throwing his own children under the bus, if convenient.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jul 17, 2018 - 12:30pm PT
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Trump Critics Add a Word to Their Vocabulary: Treason
By PETER BAKER 1:31 PM ET
Never has a president engendered such a wave of discussion about whether his real loyalty was to a foreign power.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Jul 17, 2018 - 12:30pm PT
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The summit may not have been Trump's finest hour, but he admitted he made a mistake, and it seems to be straightened out now.
The important thing is that the markets have done pretty well recently, so it's not like any of this stuff really matters, it's just silly bickering. Keep you eye on the prize (the markets) and don't be distracted by meaningless detail.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jul 17, 2018 - 12:33pm PT
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As Tensions With U.S. Worsen, Europe Courts New Partners
By JACK EWING 2:17 PM ET
The European Union is hunting for free-trade deals in Asia and Latin America to help compensate for lost business with the United States. On Tuesday, it signed its largest trade deal ever, a pact with Japan.
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nafod
Boulder climber
State college
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Jul 17, 2018 - 12:45pm PT
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The important thing is that the markets have done pretty well recently The economy had been clawing its way back from 2008 for the last 8 years, and was strong in the first year of Trump. A rule of thumb is you save the big spending bills (and deficit spending) for when you need to prime the economic pump.
We just primed a pump that did not need priming. It makes Trump look good in the short term, spending money he does not have, but the bill will come due eventually. After he leaves office. As he always does.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 17, 2018 - 12:47pm PT
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Jesus Jody, you don’t have much ammo in this discussion, at least get your facts straight....the owner of the National Enquirer is a self proclamed Trump supporter.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 17, 2018 - 01:02pm PT
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It’s likely where Trump came up with “fake news” he’s unlikely to have come up with it on his own.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Jul 17, 2018 - 02:25pm PT
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You'd hope that Trump, liar extraordinaire that he is, would have a leg up on recognizing other liars. Apparently, not so. His narcissism and stupidity trump his bad character.
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Dropline
Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
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Jul 17, 2018 - 02:52pm PT
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Trumpelstiltskin’s treasonous story will be told for generations to come. It will be one of his defining moments.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Jul 17, 2018 - 03:00pm PT
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I never knew a man
who could tell so may lies
He had a different story
for every set of eyes
How can he remember
who he's talkin' to?
Cause I know it ain't me
and I hope it isn't you Neil Young
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nafod
Boulder climber
State college
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Jul 17, 2018 - 03:34pm PT
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Big deal, a few targeted fb ads or whatever... Hacking into the Dem computer systems and using the gathered stolen loot is quite a bit worse than the Watergate burglaries.
What are the odds they didn’t get into Repub systems? It would be the smart play to do so.
If they did, why didn’t they use it? Or are they using it?
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Jul 17, 2018 - 05:18pm PT
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Who would have known that n't would make such a difference? I wouldn't.
edit: change that wouldn't to would.
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Jul 17, 2018 - 09:58pm PT
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Trump is playing the left and the media like a fiddle. He and Putin colluded to make fun of the media and irritate them and it worked.
Trump's thugs could bash the heads of immigrant kids with baseball bats and Jodi would think it such great fun to watch the left's reaction.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Jul 17, 2018 - 10:12pm PT
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Can you imagine the outcry if Obama had said the things regarding Putin that have come out of Trump’s mouth.
“Patriotic” white Americans where is your censure? The only thing I see is your appalling hypocrisy.
“Patriotic” white Anericans where is your outrage? The only thing I see is your misguided sense of entitlement based on your race and not on your worth.
Truth is, Trump should be censured by Congress for his comments.
Not sure what race or "privilege" has to do with any of this. Jim, are you projecting guilt from your summer home in Chile again?
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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Jul 17, 2018 - 10:34pm PT
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You guys have been saying for years that law enforcement always lies and are crooks
Wrong, we said you always lie.
Have another donut, Jody.
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Jul 17, 2018 - 10:45pm PT
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What is obvious to 99% of the world is either denied because of ego or obscured because that 1 % (Judy) is busy giving the Cheeto Jesus a rim job.
Holy sh#t. I knew there were some dumb f*#ks in America, but some of you really take the cake in a vain attempt to save face for your unconditional support of a full on tard-helmet wearing mouthbreather.
Judy thinks he takes good photos...
Beat this one. I dare you.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Jul 17, 2018 - 10:56pm PT
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Let's talk about the two previous denizens of the Whitehouse and there famous quotes in regard to Vlad. Bush "I've seen into his soul". Obama " Tell Vlad i'll have more flexibility after the election". Now Trump " I don't see any reason it should be". You guys are suffering from mass hysteria if you think the Trump quote is treasonous and the others innocent.
Trump is a clown, but I'll take a clown any day over a treacherous old hag ready to reset and push the red buttons on the nuclear football.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jul 17, 2018 - 11:17pm PT
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a treacherous old hag ready to reset and push the red buttons on the nuclear football
Thank god there's no hysteria there...
It's amazing what a well-targeted, 360-degree cross-media campaign can accomplish at the wake of sixty years of the GOP banking on spewing hate and fear being their best shot at power. Bummer that while demonizing Hillary was so successful even Bernie based his campaign it, it resulted in pushing the GOP so far to the hysterical fringe-right that they elected a sociopathic white nationalist traitor.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Jul 17, 2018 - 11:22pm PT
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^^^^^
I get it. You're with her.
Don't go stroking out sputtering over youre keyboard now.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jul 17, 2018 - 11:27pm PT
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I voted against her in the primary with Obama, but times changed and what we needed was a back-alley knife fighter who wouldn't have bothered trying to talk with an obstructionist, do-nothing-until-we're-in-power congress. And let's get real and honest here - if she had been elected and said or did any of what trump has said and done then GOP-led impeachment proceedings based on treason would have been gavelled into session nine months ago.
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mcreel
climber
Barcelona
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Jul 17, 2018 - 11:51pm PT
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Beware the trailer park - internet media - politics complex.
I have some dead relatives who fought in WWII, Korea, who must be rolling in their graves! I don't know what their politics were, but I'm sure they expected the country's leaders to use logic and information to make decisions, and to try to provide the electorate with those tools in the form of decent public education.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Jul 17, 2018 - 11:52pm PT
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And let's get real and honest here - if she had been elected and said or did any of what trump has said and done then GOP-led impeachment proceedings based on treason would have been gavelled into session nine months ago.
And you would have led the rolleyes crowd telling us how utterly ridiculous and without merit it all was. Still, this is exactly what you want vis-a-vis Trump.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jul 18, 2018 - 01:31am PT
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nafod
Boulder climber
State college
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Jul 18, 2018 - 05:29am PT
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treacherous old hag ready to reset and push the red buttons on the nuclear football
How did the right convince you she would do that?
The natural order of our constitutional universe is that the Legislative is in tension with the Executive. The founding fathers never contemplated in the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence how partisanship and political parties would subvert that, to the point that you have Devin Nunes acting as a mole in the legislative for the Trump Whitehouse.
Hillary in the WH would have pitted the legislative against the executive, as it was meant to be in the Constitution.
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nafod
Boulder climber
State college
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Jul 18, 2018 - 06:51am PT
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Thierry Meyssan's...
Oh lord, a 9-11 truther.
In 2002, he published a book on the September 11 terrorist attacks—9/11: The Big Lie—in which Meyssan argues that such attacks were organized by a faction of the US military industrial complex in order to impose a military regime. The book was translated into 28 languages.[1] It is one of "the first wave of book-length conspiracy speculations" in France and Germany about 9/11.[2]
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jul 18, 2018 - 07:06am PT
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can any one still think he is innocently, incoherently, steering the free world off a cliff
it is the rails to Authoritarianism, We have always lived in a Kleptocracy right ?
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Jul 18, 2018 - 07:08am PT
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I think another plausible reason for Trump’s niceness to Putin, rather than fear or being controlled, is plain and simple admiration and mentorship. He wants to learn how to parlay his power into even more power and how to own as much of his country’s GDP as he can.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jul 18, 2018 - 10:56am PT
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WASHINGTON — President Trump said on Wednesday that Russia was no longer targeting the United States, contradicting his own intelligence chief and just a day after promising that his administration was working to prevent Kremlin interference in the upcoming midterm elections.
Mr. Trump’s comments were the latest in a dizzying collection of conflicting statements from Mr. Trump since he emerged from a private meeting with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia on Monday in Helsinki, Finland. And they directly contradict assertions from Dan Coats, the director of national intelligence, who has repeatedly said that Russia continues to try to interfere with American democracy.
Isn't his first job to protect the country?
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Jul 18, 2018 - 10:57am PT
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Intelligent people don't quote Rachel Maddow. Or watch her show.
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nafod
Boulder climber
State college
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Jul 18, 2018 - 11:18am PT
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President Trump said on Wednesday that Russia was no longer targeting the United States... Hell, everybody targets the United States. It's the smart play.
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Gunkie
Trad climber
Valles Marineris
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Jul 18, 2018 - 12:28pm PT
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Trump has to face charges. Every day is worse than the last.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jul 18, 2018 - 12:48pm PT
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The drooling idiots calling this treason are literally shitting themselves because what the hysteria is about is that liberalism has been dealt a body blow with Trumps ability to pick supreme court justices.
I have no problem with this as to the victor goes the spoils and I put that on progressives, not trump. Treason as a basis for impeachment should be based on actualizing his white nationalist agenda as a public officeholder and his rapprochement with Russia.
Other grounds for impeachment are his attacks on the fourth estate, endless baldfaced lies on official matters, and his defense of radical rightwing groups.
Mueller will take care of it all I suspect given he has on staff the nations top expert on executive privilege, several top forensic accounting folks, a seasoned white-collar crime expert, an organized crime specialist, solid tax folks, and one of the best cyber-crime federal prosecutors and his staff.
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couchmaster
climber
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Jul 18, 2018 - 02:51pm PT
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Yeah, about that^^^ it's gonna be a long 8 years^^^^(OK, another 6-1/2 years).
I feel your pain.
OK, maybe I don't, but I didn't understand all the augnst when President Obama was elected either.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jul 18, 2018 - 03:03pm PT
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That is funny,right there,Couch. You really believe he will win another term.
Alternative reality.
Since he has not shown his taxes,he may not be allowed to even run in a few states.
But in all honesty,if the neoliberals get their way and run Biden or Pelosi or (insert corporate liberal here) he will.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Jul 18, 2018 - 03:08pm PT
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You already entered the twilight zone on Nov. 9 2016 Wilbeer. Enjoy the show and the upcoming episode.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 18, 2018 - 03:10pm PT
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And speaking of taxes, let’s never forget that this mess really got its legs because the republican party did not vet its candidates. Whatever headaches befall that party as a result are richly deserved. Cowards.
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DanaB
climber
CO
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Jul 18, 2018 - 03:52pm PT
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Conservative leaning columnist George Will summed in up nicely today in an oped in the Washington Post....”this sad, embarrassing wreck of a man.”
He also called him " . . . a Vesuvius of mendacity."
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DanaB
climber
CO
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Jul 18, 2018 - 03:55pm PT
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We still all get along fine and don't have any of the vicious and childish name calling and mudslinging
like a large pack of out of control rabid anti-trump dogs.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 18, 2018 - 03:59pm PT
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(just teasing ya Dirtbag)
:-)
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splitclimber
climber
Sonoma County
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Jul 18, 2018 - 04:00pm PT
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thx mooch for all 3 vids.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Jul 18, 2018 - 08:06pm PT
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Other grounds for impeachment are his attacks on the fourth estate, endless baldfaced lies on official matters, and his defense of radical rightwing groups.
Love this new world you've imagined, Joe! Where criticizing "the fourth estate" is a crime--their poor behavior notwithstanding. Was Obama in jeopardy when he did the same? E.g. spied on reporters, demanded administration 'observers' attend editing sessions, handed down false indictments against James Rosen, etc., etc., etc.
Can the President still criticize/talk down to the Supreme Court, like, during the State of the Union Address? Can he still complain about Congress? All crimes in your universe?
Baldface lies on official matters? Like "you can keep your plan and your doctor?"
Finally, criticizing ANTIFA is not tantamount to defending nut-jobs.
All that said, I'll repeat that Trump should be censured for this last fiasco. Even if there are valid "interpretations" of what he said in public and/or private, a clear message is in order. At the very least, he's 'winging it' with a nuclear-armed adversary. He has to stay on script.
I've always said Trump is a reincarnation of Andrew Jackson. Let him join #7 in the "censured" column.
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Jul 18, 2018 - 10:09pm PT
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^^^^^^
I think Elvis was the second gunman.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jul 18, 2018 - 10:12pm PT
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Was Obama in jeopardy when he did the same?
At no point has any president except trump mounted a deliberate and systematic attack on the fourth estate - ever.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Jul 18, 2018 - 11:28pm PT
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Yes, Obama tried to find the source of some leaks. That's gonna piss off the press.
To equate that with what Trump is doing daily from his bully pulpit is your classic false equivalency.
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Rollover
climber
Gross Vegas
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Jul 19, 2018 - 10:01am PT
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jul 19, 2018 - 12:27pm PT
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Bret Stephens:
"Right now, Bolton and Pompeo are parties to a Russia policy they would never otherwise advocate and cannot possibly defend in light of their public views. This means that they are either violating their principles, or had none to begin with.
If it’s the latter, by all means they should stay put and enjoy the aphrodisiac of power for however long it may last. If the former, the only decent course is to resign. The sooner they do it, the more they can preserve of their honor."
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tooth
Trad climber
B.C.
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Jul 19, 2018 - 12:34pm PT
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Moose you can always retire in Canada and instantly have 30% more retirement cash and then have a decent spot for your family to retreat to when your imaginary world falls apart.
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tooth
Trad climber
B.C.
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Jul 19, 2018 - 03:15pm PT
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Moose. Exchange rate. So i guess buying power stays the same. 😕
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Jul 19, 2018 - 05:52pm PT
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Antifa is doing the GOOD lords work
Good luck with that.
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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Jul 19, 2018 - 06:00pm PT
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moose your thoughts echo mine.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jul 19, 2018 - 06:49pm PT
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no
nothing origanal
just prophecy
unsure and did not search but if I remember my
Nostradamus . . .
"44 the last president" & the Anti-Christ, betraying the eagle, -turning "mother against so(n)"
As I said, I've not read the quatrains in years, even then I didn't even try to goggle any of that
so...
& as much as what the only ones who come from -fascist on the door step- countries, I would hate to be in Poland or Ukraine right now, as they have expressed; said, and so we have been warned by ones whom have the eyes to see -"The most dangerous man in the world"-, a threat to a free society world wide, you all can continue to ignore your folly. Tre45on
I am glad I chose to live in a very retardlican govern'd zone.
. . . . . My parents were re-homed children, placed in well meaning London homes. The Blitz came, there wasn't time to, or any thought given to the psyche of the children, who, having already, once been removed from the war zone/front lines, so already almost all of whom were suffering from the experience that had turned their order driven Germanic world, the very society, upside down in less than ten years.
( the similarities to these times are paralyzing, if you gnow your history )
tales I can tell, from simple to complex, well meaning child abuse, but the -"We didn't gnow any better"- kinds of defenses.
. . . those children, who had the language skills,display'd the proper decorum, to go on to the posh lake district, and the like, did.
Children, to young, or still not fluent "enough" in English? Defiant in any way, were to shy, had hearing issues, were traumatized
What became of them?
they were the displaced children of the second world war. Some trafficking in girls & boys was inevitable. The times , unlike now allowed anyone to -"take in"- a "War Orphan".
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Jul 19, 2018 - 07:25pm PT
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I am just back from a two-day road trip to some Idaho mountain mines. The weather was not good to me, but I got my Sirius radio Fox News & CNN fix.
Yesterday, the Fox talking heads were admiting that Trump's behavior in Helsinki was "weak" & his post summit behavior was "weak"!
They must have had an over-night Trumpian pep-talk, since today, they were all totally Rah-Rah Trump, "our wonderful president" who is trying to defuse our Obama-caused problems with Russia.
Unfortunately, Fox News host Neil Cavuto, incurred the rath of Fox news followers, but he had fun reading some of their tweets & emails today. They mostly wished his fat-self, dead, fired, or dead & fired. Nice folks, those Fox News fans, NOT.
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spectreman
Trad climber
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Jul 19, 2018 - 07:41pm PT
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All of this pisses me of, because all I wanted was to retire and live in peace. I know, selfish.
And, I'm actually scared to death thinking about the future of my children and grand children in this country. With the wife, we can move and live in any country we want to, but we are stuck here with the family.
Moose
Ok princess. I hope the big, bad, orange boogeyman doesn't come get you in your sleep.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 20, 2018 - 08:14am PT
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You have a point Fritz...the thing that scare me most is not the Creature, it’s his rabid, clueless base and their seething bigotry fueled by ignorance and racism.
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mynameismud
climber
backseat
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Jul 20, 2018 - 08:51am PT
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Antifa is what became of the Critical Mass protesters, once the rest of the population thought that everyone would enjoy bike lanes in cities because bikes are fun !
The poor hoodies had to find something else to do
This is not correct. The Antifa has a long history that goes back to Italy and Germany in the 30's. In the US they gained notoriety for coming out as a direct opposition to the skin head movement and for driving the skinhead movement out of Minneapolis. In the US the Baldies are what put the Anitfa movement on the map. It started as exactly what the name states, opposition to Fascism.
The history of the Anitifa is not all good but it definitely is not all bad.
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mynameismud
climber
backseat
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Jul 20, 2018 - 08:53am PT
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fox is within months of being sold
their grassroots viewership has been calling them sellouts and traitors for several years now
Fox is only selling of the non-News part of Fox.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Jul 20, 2018 - 11:36am PT
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...the thing that scare me most is not the Creature, it’s his rabid, clueless base and their seething bigotry fueled by ignorance and racism.
Gotta love that good old bubble-town preachin'!
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jul 20, 2018 - 04:17pm PT
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good attempt, troll,
almost as if you had a grasp of what is going on. #buh you don't
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jul 20, 2018 - 06:48pm PT
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If ,you like murdering oligarchs,sure.
We have a loss of a grip with reality.
We as Americans should love Russia,instead of buying BMW’s(that are made here),we should be buying
I mean,since we are going backwards.
What does Russia have that we could want,(outside of help for trump)follow the money.
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Jul 20, 2018 - 07:04pm PT
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pizza, is it ok when putin poisons people in England,
or when he hacks American voting systems and interferes with an election in the USA?
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 20, 2018 - 07:16pm PT
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Putin helped put tRump in the WH because he has the financial and sexual dirt on him. This is espionage 101. Now Putin has pulled it off with the POTUS. Wow, we are stoopid Americans.
No way tRump would get even the lowest level of security clearance if he tried to get one today.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Jul 20, 2018 - 07:29pm PT
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That's really deep Pizzaman...!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jul 20, 2018 - 07:52pm PT
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This is about Trump.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jul 20, 2018 - 08:03pm PT
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Thanks Ed.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Jul 20, 2018 - 08:06pm PT
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Woohoo ATG!
After 160 or so, Political posts, you actually post what you claim to be a "youthful adventure, weally-weally hard, 5.6." I appreciate you may have climbed it, but without photos, how am I to believe it, any more than your right-wing bull-schist?
Photo-up, or BS down, you politard spewer!
http://www.supertopo.com/tr/Great-White-Book-Stately-Pleasure-Dome-5-6/t13331n.html
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Jul 20, 2018 - 09:49pm PT
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About 15 years ago, I sent 550 of my best 1970's photos off to a company that converted them to quality jpegs. I have been able to share much of my 1970's climbing fun on ST with the help of those jpegs.
Of course, I realize, you are too either too poor, or cheap, to pay for your photos to be shared on a public site. That makes sense to me.
I suspect you will never quit whining, you wanker.
Some of my 1970’s ST trip reports with photos.
Elephant’s Perch, Sawtooth Range, Idaho, NR Epic: Pacydermial Pleasantries 1977
http://www.supertopo.com/tr/Elephant-s-Perch-Sawtooth-Range-Idaho-NR-Epic-Pacydermial-Pleasantries-1977/t10566n.html
MARK & FRITZ'S "BIG" MT. FAY, 1978: CANADIAN ADVENTURE!
http://www.supertopo.com/tr/MARK-FRITZS-BIG-MT-FAY-1978-CANADIAN-ADVENTURE/t11242n.html
Pursuit of Bluebonnet Tower and the Lost Crystal Cave, Sawtooths, Idaho.
http://www.supertopo.com/tr/Pursuit-of-Bluebonnet-Tower-and-the-Lost-Crystal-Cave-Sawtooths-Idaho/t10506n.html
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Jul 20, 2018 - 10:30pm PT
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Well done, Fritz! But do try to stay on topic. The thread is titled TRE45ON.
;-)
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Jul 20, 2018 - 11:05pm PT
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Fritz seems unusually angry tonight. I recall that his pal, misbehaving Craig Fry, never put up any trip reports to speak of--after years posting here. Nary a peep from the good Herr Fritz.
And oh my the "whining?" A good 40% of this website is dedicated to left-wing whining, commiserating, and TDS. And Herr Fritz is among the whiniest.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Jul 20, 2018 - 11:11pm PT
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It’s got to end soon.
Careful what you wish for....
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Jul 21, 2018 - 07:22am PT
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That's interesting Ground Chuck and it jives with what I see on the job sites in terms of voter sentiment. Their strategies related to changing traditional views of the electorate is what really raises some troubling questions.
They have managed to increase the favorable ratings of Putin and Russia amongst Republican voters by double digits. Why is Rand Paul speaking on the floor defending Russia? What does Fox News have to gain by the advancement of Trump's Russia policy? How in the world does Trump get away with tearing down Nato while a deafening silence comes from his Cabinet. Doesn't it seem odd that Trump would start trade wars with our closest trading partners while traditional free traders in Congress do nothing? Who are we talking about when we refer to "they" and "their"?
A war is waging in the Republican party, and what's most shocking- the traditionalists are loosing to a nefarious cadre that has been cobbled together from Nationalists, Corporatists, Freedom Party activist, Zionists and foreign oligarchs. They have a multifaceted end game and beyond all reason, they are winning. If you're a giddy supporter, forget about the victory pary because in the end, you were noting more than a dull tool they manipulated to scare Red State Congressmen. They actually despise you most of all and I guarantee you Trump and his staff all scrub down after those MAGA rallies.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Jul 21, 2018 - 07:25am PT
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If ATG and Lituya are down on Fritz, he must be doing something right. Rock on Fritz (and let me know who you used to convert your slides).
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Jul 21, 2018 - 09:06am PT
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Thanks folks for your support. Fat Dad: I can't remember the name of the Phoenix-based company that scanned all those slides for me long ago.
I had some quality-control problems with a few of their scans, but they re-scanned those slides to my satisfaction. Since then, I've been doing my own scanning, most recently on a Epson V550 PHOTO scanner. It works great for small batches of slide, but I can only scan 4 slides at a time.
ATG: in my dotage, I'm still climbing, but I am reduced to leading no harder than 5.7's, since I only climb a few times a year. Here's a Brokedown Climber photo of me following a 5.7 a few weeks back at COR.
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Psilocyborg
climber
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Jul 21, 2018 - 04:00pm PT
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Fritz probably needs a story to calm down.
My last crack bender was three years ago and when i smoke crack i like to really go the distance. i checked into a hotel with two cases of beer, a bottle tequila, 6 or 7 packs packs of cigarettes, a couple of lighters, about an ounce of crack, two pipes, a handful of porn mags and a bottle of baby oil.
i rolled my suitcase into the elevator. right as the door was closing i realized that i'd forgotten something and jumped through the door. i hurried back to the front desk.
"i dont want any phone calls. also, can you make sure that the porn is not blocked on the tv.?"
the girl at the front desk looked at me like i was creep. she was right.
up the elevator, down the hall and into my room. i rushed inside, set everything out on the table and selected the 24 hour all-you-can-eat porn. it came on in the middle of anal juggernauts 12. there is nothing like that first hit of crack. i wish i could feel like that forever.
so for more than 24 hours i smoked crack, watched porn and drank tequila. i selected the 24 hour porn buffet again. more crack. more baby oil. as i'm jacking off i hear what sounds like the bed squeaking in the room next to me so i get up to investigate and press my ear up against the wall. it IS the bed squeaking, and this couple is going to town. this is great. this is better than tv porn so i grab the tequila with my free hand.
this guy is really giving her the business. her moaning gets louder and faster. they keep going and keep going. she is getting just pounded and i'm really into it. moaning and squeaking. moaning and squeaking. this goes on for a while and i'm loving it. this guy is my hero. i can't believe he is lasting this long. when they're done i'm going to go next door and shake his hand.
after what seemed like 30 or 40 minutes they're still going but i'm exhausted and sit down in the chair to rest. i notice that i've gotten baby oil all over the wall. the hotel is probably going to charge me for that. so as i'm catching my breath i notice that they're starting to wind down in the next room. my breathing slows as they slow down and vice versa. suddenly i realize, there is no one having sex in the next room. the moaning was me. the squeaking was just my nose whistling.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Jul 21, 2018 - 05:07pm PT
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Psilocyborg! What a fine story! It would have been better, if you had brought a tolerant cheap hooker with you, but in your case, I thank you for not posting photos.
Although I claim to be an old hippy, crack was not around, when I daubled in drugs.
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Timbers of Fennario
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Jul 21, 2018 - 05:55pm PT
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"The squeaking was just my nose whistling"... hilarious.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jul 21, 2018 - 06:18pm PT
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I think this OpEd piece in the NYTimes today actually provides a good goal for our foreign policy vis-a-vis the Russians.
It includes criticism of the recent US administrations
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/opinion/andrei-sakharov-essay-soviet-union.html
By the mid-1970s I was serving as Sakharov’s spokesman, and I remember after yet another friend of ours had been sentenced to prison, he told me: “They want us to believe there’s no chance of success. But whether or not there’s hope for change is not the question. If you want to be a free person, you don’t stand up for human rights because it will work, but because it is right. We must continue living as decent people.”
maybe a bit of decency would be refreshing on the STForum
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 22, 2018 - 12:33am PT
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Reuters:
DUBAI
Iranian President Hassan Rouhani on Sunday cautioned the U.S. President Donald Trump about pursuing hostile policies against Tehran, saying "America should know ... war with Iran is the mother of all wars," the semi-official ISNA news agency reported.
Addressing a gathering of Iranian diplomats, Rouhani said: "Mr Trump, don't play with the lion's tail, this would only lead to regret," ISNA reported. Other Iranian agencies carried similar reports.
(Reporting by Dubai newsroom; editing by Jason Neely)
And y’all think Trump is crazy?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 23, 2018 - 12:43am PT
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God is already punishing Iran seismically. Hey, at least Trump warned the crankloons!
when was the last time you f*#kers looked at a map?!?!??
Yesterday, braj! Southern Sweden is disturbingly close to Iran!
And walking around Gothenburg I thought maybe I was in Shiraz!
Luckily there were a few token blondes around.
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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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Jul 23, 2018 - 05:28am PT
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Mueller is having so much fun uncovering the complex web of corruption surrounding Trump that it may take 4 years just to sum it all up in a long awaited conclusion.
Unfortunately,I feel that Trump will attempt to shut Mueller down as his digging reveals more evidence of money laundering and crimes committed.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 23, 2018 - 06:37am PT
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The subpoena will push the insane tRump clown posse over the edge.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jul 23, 2018 - 07:22am PT
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jul 16, 2018 - 03:42pm PT
Can you imagine the outcry if Obama had said the things regarding Putin that have come out of Trump’s mouth.
You mean something like this?
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jul 23, 2018 - 07:25am PT
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But not everything is relative; we should not slip into collective amnesia over the Obama administration’s weak and underwhelming response to Russian aggression. Throughout his presidency, Obama consistently underestimated the challenge posed by Putin’s regime. His foreign policy was firmly grounded in the premise that Russia was not a national security threat to the United States. In 2012, Obama disparaged Mitt Romney for exaggerating the Russian threat—“the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years,” Obama quipped. This breezy attitude prevailed even as Russia annexed Crimea, invaded eastern Ukraine, intervened in Syria, and hacked the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Obama’s response during these critical moments was cautious at best, and deeply misguided at worst. Even the imposition of sanctions on Russia for its invasion of Ukraine was accompanied by so much propitiation and restraint elsewhere that it didn’t deter Russia from subsequent aggression, including the risky 2016 influence operation in the United States. Obama, confident that history was on America’s side, for the duration of his time in office underestimated the damaging impact Russia could achieve through asymmetric means.
Obama’s cautious Russia policy is grounded in three conceptual errors: a failure to grasp the true nature of the Russian threat, most clearly visible in his administration’s restrained response to Russia’s annexation of Crimea in 2014; a “long view” of historical trends which in his view inexorably “bent” toward liberalism; and the perception that formidable domestic political obstacles stood in his way when it came to crafting a response to Putin’s assault on the elections in 2016.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jul 23, 2018 - 08:45am PT
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Oh my! 😲
I seem to have upset power crux. He's quite the keyboard tough guy. 😠😠😠
What to do? What to do???
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jul 23, 2018 - 08:58am PT
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so what to do, well don't call you a disingenuous C word
Again
you'll just go cry to the moderators
that I what?
spoke truth from a position of power?
that Barry phooked up has been clearly pointed out. He was the worst president ever a feckless peace=nick, who's lazy work ethic led to Americans being mad at a N playing golf again & again, 7 times in one year, so he was a lazy N who had allowed all manner of them into the peoples house . . And he was a muzlum born in Kenya.
Am I right? right , got it....
Oblame was Such a bad man also how he whore'd around & lied about it. Didn't he even have his fixer pay-off porn stars for his un-paid for hand jobs ?....
**The worst president ever, because he capitulated & left office when he had proof that this next dick was bought & paid for, the worst because he Did not declare martial law, scrub the compromised elections & take actions against those who are responsible for destroying our democracy
What is also clear, is that this POS is not president he is the pussy grabber & thief. A dooshnozzel now trying to take over, has been bought; is a sold out puppet to the powers of evil represented by putin & kleptocracy in general,
in bold type just in case you missed what the meaning of is, is, & what it, what the topic is.
The fact that I will do well, in the short term, - due to what this aZse does,
plays no role in my decrying his fascist leanings and that he has sold out american values.
Less for ideological reasons,more in order to enrich himself at the free world's expense
Was joining the side of the un-free world, the dictatorships & authoritarian ruled kleptocracies that act openly against civilization what you voted for ?
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jul 23, 2018 - 09:08am PT
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It's telling who whines (and who doesn't) about getting a time out.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jul 23, 2018 - 10:42am PT
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Why is this guy representing Ca with his lies?
The records again cast an unflattering light on Representative Devin Nunes, the committee’s chairman, who led the attack on the F.B.I. surveillance, though he admitted in February that he had not read the application documents.
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Jul 23, 2018 - 10:46am PT
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No one is afraid of you, Donny. Maybe try something other than supertransparent d#@&%ebag.
I try to keep a bit of detachment from things I don't have control over, but don't kid yourself.
Trump is doing real damage to both the US in particular and the world in general.
He is capable of doing a lot more damage.
Would anybody really be shocked if he ordered an airstrike on Iran?
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Jul 23, 2018 - 10:48am PT
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I wouldn't be shocked, but would expect his orders to be disregarded in some kind of Thank God SNAFU.
Breaking: Judge has granted immunity to 5 witness in Manafort Trial which begins this week.
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WyoRockMan
climber
Grizzlyville, WY
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Jul 23, 2018 - 12:20pm PT
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 23, 2018 - 01:29pm PT
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Oil prices will triple, and the economy will crash,
And the comrades will be elated and dance around Marx’ geave in Highgate! Woot!
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jul 23, 2018 - 02:18pm PT
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Just saying...
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Jul 23, 2018 - 02:29pm PT
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Edward!
If you are going to try to get the attention off of Donald then you must include Gary Hart and his affair on the Monkey Business!
Here, let me help you out! Now quick Edward, see if you can find another example of a politician cheating on his wife. Ever heard of the phrase "False Equivalence" ? One affair the same as 19 women accusing Donald, Edward? Pathetic Derp
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jul 23, 2018 - 02:33pm PT
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How about this?
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Jul 23, 2018 - 03:49pm PT
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The discourse here is so civil and uplifting, a truly intellectual discussion. But, it's really simply a circumlocutory and pleonastic circle of oratorical sonorosity circumscribing an atom of ideality lost in its verbal profundity.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jul 23, 2018 - 03:57pm PT
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The discourse here is so civil and uplifting, a true intellectual discussion.
It really is.
I'm grateful to have kind-hearted intellectuals like Norton and P-crux to regularly blow sunshine up my shorts.
Thank you both... for all you do to help Make America Great Again.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Jul 23, 2018 - 05:41pm PT
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I kind of like you EdwardT, but you are an idiot. Nothing personal, but if you still support Trump at this point of time, you are an idiot. I'm sorry, but there is just too much on the "idiot" side of the ledger.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jul 23, 2018 - 05:56pm PT
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
Jul 23, 2018 - 05:41pm PT
I kind of like you EdwardT, but you are an idiot. Nothing personal, but if you still support Trump at this point of time, you are an idiot. I'm sorry, but there is just too much on the "idiot" side of the ledger.
It's the night of low hanging fruit. P-crux, Norton and now you.
Thanks for another good laugh.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jul 23, 2018 - 06:20pm PT
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For Sketch
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jul 23, 2018 - 07:00pm PT
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Later chilluns.
It's been fun.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Jul 23, 2018 - 07:43pm PT
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He saw a video on Utube that said the Moon landing was faked, therefore he believes it was faked
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Jul 23, 2018 - 07:48pm PT
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ignore Skippy, he is desperately trying to deflect attention away from the current President
so the only thing he can do is try to create a conspiracy theory about a past President
the problem for Skip is that no one is buying it, except maybe his cousin Edward
Skip for banned, but he must have the same Supertopo password so they both post as Edward, who voted for Hillary, which must drive Skippy crazy, LOL
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Jul 23, 2018 - 08:24pm PT
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I wouldn't be shocked, but would expect his orders to be disregarded in some kind of Thank God SNAFU.
I might hope that his orders would be disregarded but I wouldn't go so far as to expect it.
National security advisor Bolton has a thirty years itch to take military action against Iran.
If Trump ordered them to prepare and then launch a missile strike, I think the military would.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Jul 23, 2018 - 08:38pm PT
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GOP Senate Ethics Committee Declares "Mission Accomplished, Disbands Panel
The GOP head of the Senate, reading from a script, declared "these fake ethics complaints against our President have resulted in needless expense, as Mr. Trump is, by all measures the most highly ethics(sic) president since his incredible, historic, best-attended, most profitable inauguration."
As if to prove this point, Sen. McConnell threw a rubber chicken into the Democratic side of the aisle. "Let me put this whole thing into perspective. First off, what we want most is to be re-elected. So there's no truth to reckless Democratic claims that the GOP's primary motivation is racism, greed, destruction of the environment, subjugation of women, or establishment of a theocracy. Such talk is not only false; it is un-American! Subject to certain esthetic and health considerations, I stand behind President Trump!"
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nafod
Boulder climber
State college
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Jul 25, 2018 - 05:38am PT
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I don't understand why Fox News never gets these cool leaks
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 25, 2018 - 06:19am PT
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Because "Fox News" doesn't seek out the news, they take the news and, sfter the fact, twist it to fit their views. They are a poltical propaganda entity interested in shaping the news , not in discovering it.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jul 25, 2018 - 07:23am PT
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Speaking of So Sad. Too Bad. LOL...
If Trump wins re-election, this place is gonna be toxic.
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Braunini
Big Wall climber
cupertino
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Jul 25, 2018 - 07:26am PT
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Gonna be?
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Timbers of Fennario
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Jul 25, 2018 - 07:27am PT
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If trump wins reelection, the whole country will be toxic. Oh, wait...
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Jul 25, 2018 - 07:34am PT
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$5000 says Trump will not be elected President in 2020
How about it PUD, blah blah, et al ?
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Braunini
Big Wall climber
cupertino
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Jul 25, 2018 - 07:37am PT
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How you dumbasses never get tired of throwing sh#t at each other never ceases to amaze
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Jul 25, 2018 - 08:00am PT
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$5000 says Trump will not be elected President in 2020
How about it PUD, blah blah, et al ?
A problem with the bet from my perspective is that if Trump loses, the markets will probably tank, so then I'd lose both this bet (albeit a relatively trivial amount) and, more importantly, suffer from the market losses.
It would be more sensible for me to bet against Trump too; that way I'd have a hedge against the anticipated market decliness.
But instead of just harping about Trump losing (which remember you did famously last election too, practically begging anyone to take your bets against Trump--fortunately for you apparently no one did, or else you'd be too broke afford electricity to post on ST), why don't you say who you think will win--that's a more interesting question.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Jul 25, 2018 - 08:17am PT
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if Trump loses, the markets will probably tank
why?
Why do you think they went up so much after he won?
Figure that one out, then reverse it, then you have the answer. :)
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jul 25, 2018 - 08:23am PT
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Power Crux
Social climber
Collecting farmer welfare
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 25, 2018 - 07:47am PT
I return from my morning ride and see that Eddie Triggered is doing as he's told and keeping TRE45ON at the top.
There's my favorite little hater.
I say boo... or simply hello, and you squeal like a little girl.
LOL
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 25, 2018 - 08:29am PT
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today in that state the leading bill the gop wants to pass is a statement which reads that 2011 apology was wrong...
Do you have a reference for that?
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 25, 2018 - 08:40am PT
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if Trump loses, the markets will probably tank
why?
How anyone can defend the economic policies of this presidency is beyond me.
Now, he is pushing for a 25% tariff on auto imports.
Fooking bonkers, and Republicans know it but they are too gutless to do something about it. They all need to be voted out.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Jul 25, 2018 - 08:43am PT
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New stories are saying that Soy Bean farmers are already seeing big losses coming. And other farmers who export too. So much so that Trump is enacting a Depression era policy that will fund something like 12 Billion to help offset the losses.
But soybean segment alone already has losses of 16B......
Part of Trump's problem is that he is a legend in his own mind. I doubt it even occurred to him that the countries that he imposed tariffs on would retaliate with counteroffers. He's used to running a business where he says "jump," and the employees jump or lose their job. Doesn't realize he is not the boss of the world.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 25, 2018 - 08:44am PT
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Btw, blah blah, you can thank obama for your beloved stock surge. (Since they is all you care about.)
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jul 25, 2018 - 08:57am PT
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How anyone can defend the economic policies of this presidency is beyond me.
Now, he is pushing for a 25% tariff on auto imports.
The stocks markets seem to like his policies. I expected these trade wars to tank the market. No dice. The markets grind upward.
Despite lousy home sales figures, the indices shrug it off.
Go figure.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 25, 2018 - 09:19am PT
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Edward—I expect we will have to wait several months to see how it plays out.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Jul 25, 2018 - 09:29am PT
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If Trump wins re-election, this place is gonna be toxic.
As the toxicity here intensifies, it's always possible the bubble-dwellers--both the urban and resort town variety--might venture outside to breathe fresh air? Ya know, talk with their "enemies?" Probably not.
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yanqui
climber
Balcarce, Argentina
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Jul 25, 2018 - 09:39am PT
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“You have a terrible policy that sends farmers to the poorhouse, and then you put them on welfare, and we borrow the money from other countries” ... Senator Bob Corker, Republican of Tennessee
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Jul 25, 2018 - 09:47am PT
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You’re a gaslighting piece of sh#t, Lituya.
Go f*#k yourself.
Absolutely brilliant. The intellect here is off the charts, oh my.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Jul 25, 2018 - 09:52am PT
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Go f*#k yourself again.
Can't "intellect" with a disingenuous d#@&%ebag like you.
Well, yes, I suppose a guy like you might do better remaining inside The Bubble.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Jul 25, 2018 - 09:59am PT
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Btw, blah blah, you can thank obama for your beloved stock surge. (Since they is all you care about.)
Hey I didn't have any huge problems with Obama, except that the recovery was sluggish and the economy (as measured by the markets at least) could have done a lot better--as we're seeing now. (I did have some problems with the essential lawlessness of certain of his actions, such as institutionalizing his failure to enforce immigration laws. I also believed it was the president's job to enforce the laws because that's what the Constitution says, but I guess Obama and his fanboys weren't too concerned about that.)
These trade wars don't seem to be helping things, but we're all expecting this is just a bit of bluster and should blow over.
The corporate tax cuts were long overdue--pity that Obama was apparently so blinded by left wing ideology that he couldn't move forward with policies that would have done so much to help the sputtering economy.
Anyway, we seem to be on a better track now, hopefully we can ride it out for the rest of Trump's term and make lots more money. After that, who knows, could be ugly if the Sanders / Ocasio-Cortez faction take over.
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nafod
Boulder climber
State college
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Jul 25, 2018 - 10:10am PT
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The corporate tax cuts were long overdue--pity that Obama was apparently so blinded by left wing ideology that he couldn't move forward with policies that would have done so much to help the sputtering economy. Wit the economy doing well, we passed more tax cuts and increased the deficit, basically spending our "rainy day" funds usually waiting for when the economy does poorly. The bill will come due after Trump leaves, of course. Much like how he runs his businesses.
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